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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 11 2010 23:12 GMT
#541
As a result, best case scenario for the town:

ghost decides to save me
witch decides to curse me
vampire brute decides to kill me
mafia decides to kill me

this would mean:
witch curse goes to waste
vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point
mafia loses a kill point

I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 23:13 GMT
#542
No, you and the ghost would die too because of the brute.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9828 Posts
October 11 2010 23:16 GMT
#543
On October 12 2010 08:12 aztrorisk wrote:
As a result, best case scenario for the town:

ghost decides to save me
witch decides to curse me
vampire brute decides to kill me
mafia decides to kill me

this would mean:
witch curse goes to waste
vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point
mafia loses a kill point

I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt.

>.<
1) Brute will kill everyone. regardless.
2) why would witch curse AND mafia kill? that makes ZERO sense.
boomer hands
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
October 11 2010 23:18 GMT
#544
seRapH you have clearly not been paying attention to anything aztrorisk has been saying.
...
...
...

None of his shit makes sense, why are you surprised?
lalala
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9828 Posts
October 11 2010 23:18 GMT
#545
On October 12 2010 07:40 Alethios wrote:
Vote Masq

vote doesnt count, correct?
boomer hands
jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
October 11 2010 23:19 GMT
#546
On October 12 2010 08:12 aztrorisk wrote:
As a result, best case scenario for the town:

ghost decides to save me
witch decides to curse me
vampire brute decides to kill me
mafia decides to kill me

this would mean:
witch curse goes to waste
vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point
mafia loses a kill point

I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt.


That's all true, but it means we'd be wasting 1 (possibly 2 if you don't place it correctly) of the pumpkin bombs. And seeing as we know almost nothing right now, placing your bomb on a target is most likely not going to lead to a scum kill.
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 11 2010 23:20 GMT
#547
I sense that there is some misunderstanding of kill power (not kill points). Mafia/Vampires can respectively kill a certain amount of people per night based on their kill power. This kill power is dependent on how many members there are. Losing one member does not constitute a loss of KP.

Kill Power: 8-11 vampires/mafia - 3
3-7 vampires/mafia : 2
1-2 vampire/mafia: 1
RIP Aaliyah
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
October 11 2010 23:20 GMT
#548
BRUTE KILLS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE GHOST.
lalala
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 11 2010 23:21 GMT
#549
On October 12 2010 08:18 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 07:40 Alethios wrote:
Vote Masq

vote doesnt count, correct?

Correct.
RIP Aaliyah
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 11 2010 23:21 GMT
#550
The Vampire Brute not only bypasses the ghost but will kill the ghost and anyone else visiting his target in the night.


awww....ruined my plan, I looked my plan over before I decided to admit my role. My only response to this comment is to make it more clear next time

2) why would witch curse AND mafia kill? that makes ZERO sense.

because they want to kill me and prevent me from killing one of their members
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4642 Posts
October 11 2010 23:22 GMT
#551
On October 12 2010 07:49 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 07:48 youngminii wrote:
After wading through 8 pages of text, I have come to a conclusion. I am going to vote for either Masq or Veldril.

Gee, how smart am I?

what about me =(

You're still doing a pretty bad job defending yourself, smells like scum to me
This neo violence, pure self defiance
jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
October 11 2010 23:27 GMT
#552
After rereading everything, I would suggest that the ghost not choose to save aztorisk. I'm starting to believe that he may not be the jack-o-lantern, and instead might be scum trying to stir up confusion among the townies.

However, even if he is the jack-o-lantern, then there is a chance the vampire brute will choose to kill him, thinking that the ghost may be protecting him. Because the ghost is so valuable, I would suggest taking the risk of only losing 1 (or maybe 0) blues, and ensure that the ghost isn't taken out. If he is the jack-o-lantern, then unless a witch chooses to curse him he will be able to place one bomb anyway. I just don't think its worth the risk of either protecting scum, or having the ghost die to the vampire brute. What do you guys think?
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 11 2010 23:27 GMT
#553
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html

Two things.

1. I think the Bill Murray issue has been buried in this discussion.


On October 11 2010 15:39 Bill Murray wrote:
I am fairly happy lynching coagulation/masq, and I am glad people are voting for them.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 14:46 Veldril wrote:
Reporting in.

Many victims seems to die by a weapon, maybe most are killed by mafia? Or maybe the vampire mimic the mafia style? However, I'm not sure is this important or not.

Also, nice find Glasse. That's really helpful. But maybe we can get more clue from the first night post that make the mafia/vamp more visible.


This seems very forced. Maybe this, maybe that. I'm voting this guy. Fuck all the clue speculation, let's lynch Veldril over this post.



It appears you were against Veldril from very early in the game. And now you're going as far as blackmailing someone over this vote. What has convinced you to be so sure, apart from your own agenda?


LYNCH
ALL
LIARS


Mhmm...

It'd be difficult for normal townies to be so willing to jump on/start a bandwagon immediately. You give off a strong vibe of being in one of the opposing factions - probably in a one opposing masq/veldril.

It doesn't decrease the suspicion on Veldril, but your last series of posts really bring this point of contention out.

On October 12 2010 07:47 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 07:42 Bill Murray wrote:
aztrorisk better switch to veldril or he is a fucking liar and we are going to lynch him due to LAL

LYNCH
ALL
LIARS

LYNCH EVERYONE!


Oh, and not to mention this little gem. jodogohoo is one of the most suspicious ones apart from masq right now, and he clearly appears to be in league with you. Jodog's pretended to be noob, changed vote multiple times 1st day, and bandwagoned everything he could see. Jodog probably thought he was furthering your cause by agreeing with you, but no...


2. The recent revealing of a role: I've noticed that we are all assuming that aztorisk actually is what he claims to be. But as shown in his previous posts, he strongly accused shmotz, then switched to masq when others started, and also defended glasse when hammer in profile pic was pointed out. What do we have to believe that he is actually the Jack, other than his word which apparently is quite flexible?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 11 2010 23:30 GMT
#554
Basically, this all comes down to a guessing/bluffing game in my case:

best case scenario for the town:
+ Show Spoiler +
-brute waste kill on me
-mafia uses kill point on me
-pumpkin kills vampire
-ghost decides not to save me

1 brute + vampire dies and 1 mafia dies

or

witch curses me and a witch also dies in this scenario


worse case scenario for the vampires
-they waste a precious brute kill on me that will be most useful in the late game
-witch doesn't curse me
-I place a pumpkin in a vampire's house

thus 2 vampires dies and they waste a precious brute and I did my job as the jack-o-latern


worse case scenario for mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
mafia really wants me dead and sends the witch to curse me and use a kill point on me. However brute to kill me and no ghost to haunt me. This would leave two mafia dead (most notably the witch

worse case scenario for the town

+ Show Spoiler +
-witch curses me
-brute kills me
-ghost saves me
-detective investigates me (super unlikely though)

-this would leave us with a wasted ghost, detective, and jack-o-latern


like I said, all it comes down to is basically bluffs and guesses.

This will be one hecka of a night.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
October 11 2010 23:32 GMT
#555
DO YOU KNOW WHAT WIFOM MEANS?
lalala
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 23:32 GMT
#556
Jodogohoo for fool imo.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 11 2010 23:32 GMT
#557
What we definitely know is azterisk is probably not in the same faction as Bill Murray. He could be baiting a ghost such that his own faction could kill other targets without worrying about their KP going to waste.

From what he's posting, he might also be trying to stop the detective from investigating him by continuously mentioning the possibility of a brute attack. 0.0
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
October 11 2010 23:32 GMT
#558
Wine in Front of Me

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Wine_In_Front_Of_Me
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 11 2010 23:33 GMT
#559
After rereading everything, I would suggest that the ghost not choose to save aztorisk. I'm starting to believe that he may not be the jack-o-lantern, and instead might be scum trying to stir up confusion among the townies.

However, even if he is the jack-o-lantern, then there is a chance the vampire brute will choose to kill him, thinking that the ghost may be protecting him. Because the ghost is so valuable, I would suggest taking the risk of only losing 1 (or maybe 0) blues, and ensure that the ghost isn't taken out. If he is the jack-o-lantern, then unless a witch chooses to curse him he will be able to place one bomb anyway. I just don't think its worth the risk of either protecting scum, or having the ghost die to the vampire brute. What do you guys think?


actually, your wrong, like in the above quote, it all comes down to a guessing game. Trust me, the vampires and mafia both have big risks in this situation. 5 hrs left to decide.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 11 2010 23:34 GMT
#560
What we definitely know is azterisk is probably not in the same faction as Bill Murray. He could be baiting a ghost such that his own faction could kill other targets without worrying about their KP going to waste.

From what he's posting, he might also be trying to stop the detective from investigating him by continuously mentioning the possibility of a brute attack. 0.0


hehe chances are that I'm gonna die tonight anyways.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
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