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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
ghost decides to save me witch decides to curse me vampire brute decides to kill me mafia decides to kill me this would mean: witch curse goes to waste vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point mafia loses a kill point I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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seRapH
United States9776 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:12 aztrorisk wrote: As a result, best case scenario for the town: ghost decides to save me witch decides to curse me vampire brute decides to kill me mafia decides to kill me this would mean: witch curse goes to waste vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point mafia loses a kill point I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt. >.< 1) Brute will kill everyone. regardless. 2) why would witch curse AND mafia kill? that makes ZERO sense. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
... ... ... None of his shit makes sense, why are you surprised? | ||
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seRapH
United States9776 Posts
On October 12 2010 07:40 Alethios wrote: Vote Masq vote doesnt count, correct? | ||
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jaminz
United States208 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:12 aztrorisk wrote: As a result, best case scenario for the town: ghost decides to save me witch decides to curse me vampire brute decides to kill me mafia decides to kill me this would mean: witch curse goes to waste vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point mafia loses a kill point I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt. That's all true, but it means we'd be wasting 1 (possibly 2 if you don't place it correctly) of the pumpkin bombs. And seeing as we know almost nothing right now, placing your bomb on a target is most likely not going to lead to a scum kill. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Kill Power: 8-11 vampires/mafia - 3 3-7 vampires/mafia : 2 1-2 vampire/mafia: 1 | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Correct. | ||
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
The Vampire Brute not only bypasses the ghost but will kill the ghost and anyone else visiting his target in the night. awww....ruined my plan, I looked my plan over before I decided to admit my role. My only response to this comment is to make it more clear next time 2) why would witch curse AND mafia kill? that makes ZERO sense. because they want to kill me and prevent me from killing one of their members | ||
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Hittegods
Stockholm4641 Posts
You're still doing a pretty bad job defending yourself, smells like scum to me | ||
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jaminz
United States208 Posts
However, even if he is the jack-o-lantern, then there is a chance the vampire brute will choose to kill him, thinking that the ghost may be protecting him. Because the ghost is so valuable, I would suggest taking the risk of only losing 1 (or maybe 0) blues, and ensure that the ghost isn't taken out. If he is the jack-o-lantern, then unless a witch chooses to curse him he will be able to place one bomb anyway. I just don't think its worth the risk of either protecting scum, or having the ghost die to the vampire brute. What do you guys think? | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Two things. 1. I think the Bill Murray issue has been buried in this discussion. On October 11 2010 15:39 Bill Murray wrote: I am fairly happy lynching coagulation/masq, and I am glad people are voting for them. This seems very forced. Maybe this, maybe that. I'm voting this guy. Fuck all the clue speculation, let's lynch Veldril over this post. It appears you were against Veldril from very early in the game. And now you're going as far as blackmailing someone over this vote. What has convinced you to be so sure, apart from your own agenda? LYNCH ALL LIARS Mhmm... It'd be difficult for normal townies to be so willing to jump on/start a bandwagon immediately. You give off a strong vibe of being in one of the opposing factions - probably in a one opposing masq/veldril. It doesn't decrease the suspicion on Veldril, but your last series of posts really bring this point of contention out. Oh, and not to mention this little gem. jodogohoo is one of the most suspicious ones apart from masq right now, and he clearly appears to be in league with you. Jodog's pretended to be noob, changed vote multiple times 1st day, and bandwagoned everything he could see. Jodog probably thought he was furthering your cause by agreeing with you, but no... 2. The recent revealing of a role: I've noticed that we are all assuming that aztorisk actually is what he claims to be. But as shown in his previous posts, he strongly accused shmotz, then switched to masq when others started, and also defended glasse when hammer in profile pic was pointed out. What do we have to believe that he is actually the Jack, other than his word which apparently is quite flexible? | ||
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
best case scenario for the town: + Show Spoiler + -brute waste kill on me -mafia uses kill point on me -pumpkin kills vampire -ghost decides not to save me 1 brute + vampire dies and 1 mafia dies or witch curses me and a witch also dies in this scenario worse case scenario for the vampires -they waste a precious brute kill on me that will be most useful in the late game -witch doesn't curse me -I place a pumpkin in a vampire's house thus 2 vampires dies and they waste a precious brute and I did my job as the jack-o-latern worse case scenario for mafia + Show Spoiler + mafia really wants me dead and sends the witch to curse me and use a kill point on me. However brute to kill me and no ghost to haunt me. This would leave two mafia dead (most notably the witch worse case scenario for the town + Show Spoiler + -witch curses me -brute kills me -ghost saves me -detective investigates me (super unlikely though) -this would leave us with a wasted ghost, detective, and jack-o-latern like I said, all it comes down to is basically bluffs and guesses. This will be one hecka of a night. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
From what he's posting, he might also be trying to stop the detective from investigating him by continuously mentioning the possibility of a brute attack. 0.0 | ||
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jaminz
United States208 Posts
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Wine_In_Front_Of_Me | ||
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
After rereading everything, I would suggest that the ghost not choose to save aztorisk. I'm starting to believe that he may not be the jack-o-lantern, and instead might be scum trying to stir up confusion among the townies. However, even if he is the jack-o-lantern, then there is a chance the vampire brute will choose to kill him, thinking that the ghost may be protecting him. Because the ghost is so valuable, I would suggest taking the risk of only losing 1 (or maybe 0) blues, and ensure that the ghost isn't taken out. If he is the jack-o-lantern, then unless a witch chooses to curse him he will be able to place one bomb anyway. I just don't think its worth the risk of either protecting scum, or having the ghost die to the vampire brute. What do you guys think? actually, your wrong, like in the above quote, it all comes down to a guessing game. Trust me, the vampires and mafia both have big risks in this situation. 5 hrs left to decide. | ||
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
What we definitely know is azterisk is probably not in the same faction as Bill Murray. He could be baiting a ghost such that his own faction could kill other targets without worrying about their KP going to waste. From what he's posting, he might also be trying to stop the detective from investigating him by continuously mentioning the possibility of a brute attack. 0.0 hehe chances are that I'm gonna die tonight anyways. | ||
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