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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:40 jodogohoo wrote: stop derailing the thread and cluttering stuff up Haha, look at jodo, policing the clutter now =P Town does need the blues to do something though. We need some information tonight, and we need to protect our most vulnerable/valuable. I am more than willing to help coordinate blues if they want me to. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:43 jcarlsoniv wrote: Haha, look at jodo, policing the clutter now =P Town does need the blues to do something though. We need some information tonight, and we need to protect our most vulnerable/valuable. I am more than willing to help coordinate blues if they want me to. No one do that. remember, dts and medics will be given bad advice if jcarlsoniv is mafia/vampires, and thus will be hindered That's why I in fact only asked vets to claim, and if they claimed to even more, its possible they won't even have a chance to be hit at all if we are both different scum teams. the yum yum says no | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:45 Pandain wrote: No one do that. remember, dts and medics will be given bad advice if jcarlsoniv is mafia/vampires, and thus will be hindered That's why I in fact only asked vets to claim, and if they claimed to even more, its possible they won't even have a chance to be hit at all if we are both different scum teams. the yum yum says no i dont think jcarl is red, but i do agree with this post. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:47 seRapH wrote: i dont think jcarl is red, but i do agree with this post. I don't disagree with Pandain, I'm just trying to help out. It is important to find a lynch target, but equally, if not more important to make sure our blues are being used well. Sorry to step on your toes Pandain, you can handle that. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:49 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't disagree with Pandain, I'm just trying to help out. It is important to find a lynch target, but equally, if not more important to make sure our blues are being used well. Sorry to step on your toes Pandain, you can handle that. And whos to say you will help them use it well? Who's to say you're not mafia, leading the Medic to protect their own scum. Or even an innocent townie who gives bad advice. If you really want to help blues, tell them what they should be doing. Like this: Dts: check suscipcious people, active people, vets, Medics: protect people who you think will get hit, especially pro town seeming ones, and me n.n Vets: try to soak up hits, pretend as other blues. Mad hatter: place carefully. If you really have a good read place it on them. + Show Spoiler + yum yum goes to play sc2 yum yum | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote: And whos to say you will help them use it well? Who's to say you're not mafia, leading the Medic to protect their own scum. Or even an innocent townie who gives bad advice. If you really want to help blues, tell them what they should be doing. Like this: Dts: check suscipcious people, active people, vets, Medics: protect people who you think will get hit, especially pro town seeming ones, and me n.n Vets: try to soak up hits, pretend as other blues. Mad hatter: place carefully. If you really have a good read place it on them. + Show Spoiler + yum yum goes to play sc2 yum yum Pandain, it might be MORE helpful if you actually use the real Role names instead of general mafia ones. Especially for the newer players, like myself, to know what exactly you want done. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote: And whos to say you will help them use it well? Who's to say you're not mafia, leading the Medic to protect their own scum. Or even an innocent townie who gives bad advice. If you really want to help blues, tell them what they should be doing. Like this: Dts: check suscipcious people, active people, vets, Medics: protect people who you think will get hit, especially pro town seeming ones, and me n.n Vets: try to soak up hits, pretend as other blues. Mad hatter: place carefully. If you really have a good read place it on them. + Show Spoiler + yum yum goes to play sc2 yum yum Just to elaborate somewhat on this: Ghosts: Big names and pro town people are who you want to be protecting. Se my previous post for some suggestions. Boogeyman: Same as above. You have a very good chance of either catching a maf, a medic or possibly even both! Mad Scientist: Try and see if any clues stand out to you. Quite a few connections have been pointed out so far, so if any of the people implacated seem scummy to you, gogo investigate. Zombie Detective: Depending on who we lynch today, I'd recommend investigating either coagulation, masq, veldrin, jodogohoo or aztrorisk. If you have a gut feeling of your own however, go for it. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On October 12 2010 04:45 orgolove wrote: and other masq defenders: lankill - fervently defended masq, then very defensive when he was accused i cannot find a single post by lankill in this thread =\ | ||
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jaminz
United States208 Posts
On October 12 2010 07:01 jcarlsoniv wrote: Pandain, it might be MORE helpful if you actually use the real Role names instead of general mafia ones. Especially for the newer players, like myself, to know what exactly you want done. I'm going to assume: Dts = Zombie Detective, Mad Scientist, and Boogeyman Medics = The Ghost Vets = Frankenstein's Monster Mad hatter = Jack O' Lantern and Grim Reaper | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Town Roles: Ghost = Medic Boogeyman = Watcher Zombie Detective = Detective, DT, cop Mad Scientist = Cluechecker, also a kind of detective Frankenstein = Veteran, Bulletproof, BP Grim Reaper = Vig, Vigilante Zombie = Townie Jack O' Lantern = Mad hatter, bomber Gravedigger/Creeper = Miller Maf Roles Invisible man = Framer Witch = Roleblocker Poison Fang = Poisoner | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On October 12 2010 05:08 Pandain wrote: In addition, it seems like the MAIN reason why we are voting Veldril is because of his support of Masq. Therefore, wouldn't voting masq actually be a better choice because 1.We have a more direct clue and more obvious towards him 2.If Masq is town, that lends a whole bunch of credibility towards Veldril And what information do we gain from lynching Veldril? We don't even know if Masq is town/mafia if veldril is town, since Townies make mistakes and defend the wrong people all the time. But if we lynch Masq, we gain info on all the people who defended him and accused him based on his role. Masq is a better lynch than veldril. This is wrong. I was suspicious of Veldril previous to that because he is a terrible poster. He defended Masq first. Mafia buddy up to townies all the time. The fact he buddied up to Masq, and Masq responded positively might just be because Masq is a VI, and I'm talking about the type of player, not the role. He might just be inexperienced and confused. Veldril certainly isn't, though. I have suspicions that he is someone who is smurfing, not anyone in particular, but he seems to know more than most of you. He may be trying to steer a mislynch. Don't let him, lynch him instead. Pandain, why are you defending Veldril? Do I really need to go and quote the posts I am referring to? | ||
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Lucktar
United States526 Posts
My analysis might be way off, but hopefully it's at least somewhat useful. I'm sure somebody will decide that this fingers me as scum, but whatever. They'll probably say that mentioning somebody accusing me is trying to preempt that, too. Oh god, everything I say just makes it worse.  Owel, I'm noobie at this, and reading all the paranoid back-and forth is fun.  | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On October 12 2010 07:29 Lucktar wrote:this fingers me as scum He said it, not me. :p Technically we do have the day 1 clues and everyone's reactions to being accused, so the first lynching isn't completely in the dark. Certainly, when we get help from the blues, we can make more accurate guesses though. | ||
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
Right now, my two biggest suspicion is Masq and Vendril. Before I switch to Vendril, I would like to wait a while to see how the votes continue to tally and I will change it to Vendril if my votes will make a difference. However, my current predicament is deciding a player opposing Masq and Vendril (depending on which team they are on) I decided that I do not want to keep my role as the jack-o-latern a secret because I do not want to be responsible for the death of an innocent zombie. I will plant one bomb at either Masq/vendril's house depending on who has the least votes. However, I need to decide on another bomb on one their opposing side's member (so I don't accidentally kill two vampires and make mafia overpowered or the other way around). Since I am the one of the most likely to be murdered by either the vampire or the mafia, I will give you guys a chance to persuade me who I should put my other bomb on. As a result, If I die, you can't blame me and I accidentally killed a zombie, It will not be entirely my fault because you all had the chance to persuade me. I will not reveal my final conclusion on who I decide to target the second bomb to. In addition, I will only accept to place the bomb on someone that I think wants masq/vendril out and can be attacked to one of the clues. | ||
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MetalFace
United States75 Posts
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
On October 12 2010 07:29 Lucktar wrote: Kind of hilarious how much people try to read into everything that's said here. I suppose it makes sense, it just kinda surprised me. That being said, it seems that until the first night, we don't really have any information to work with. So whether we lynch Masq or Veldril or coag or whoever, it's pretty much a blind guess. Seems that the blues would be pretty reluctant to make any moves toward finding each other/townies yet, but perhaps not. The only people who strike me as having a great deal of incentive to post would be the mafia/vamps, to try to stir the pot and get people jabbing at each other. My analysis might be way off, but hopefully it's at least somewhat useful. I'm sure somebody will decide that this fingers me as scum, but whatever. They'll probably say that mentioning somebody accusing me is trying to preempt that, too. Oh god, everything I say just makes it worse. Owel, I'm noobie at this, and reading all the paranoid back-and forth is fun. hows this: reds have a great deal of incentive not to post, for fear of accidentally giving something away. and if the townies are fighting amongst themselves, all the more reason to not step in. keep in mind that they're here to get rid of each other, not us townies, so talking with the townies in public might give them away to the other team. also, question for Dr H, but does the witch get notified if their action gets blocked? | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
LYNCH ALL LIARS | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On October 12 2010 07:29 Lucktar wrote: Kind of hilarious how much people try to read into everything that's said here. I suppose it makes sense, it just kinda surprised me. That being said, it seems that until the first night, we don't really have any information to work with. So whether we lynch Masq or Veldril or coag or whoever, it's pretty much a blind guess. Seems that the blues would be pretty reluctant to make any moves toward finding each other/townies yet, but perhaps not. The only people who strike me as having a great deal of incentive to post would be the mafia/vamps, to try to stir the pot and get people jabbing at each other. My analysis might be way off, but hopefully it's at least somewhat useful. I'm sure somebody will decide that this fingers me as scum, but whatever. They'll probably say that mentioning somebody accusing me is trying to preempt that, too. Oh god, everything I say just makes it worse. Owel, I'm noobie at this, and reading all the paranoid back-and forth is fun. Nah you're pretty much correct. The combination of not having reached first night yet, coupled with everybody still getting a feel for the other players posting styles "XXXX always takes the piss; YYYY always has well constructed, thought out posts" and so forth... it's pretty difficult to make any considered judgments as of yet. Things'll really heat up soon | ||
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