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On October 12 2010 05:22 orgolove wrote:
NB, coagulation was quite defensive when he was first accused. He tried to bandwagon at the first opportunity, and when he was being pressured, made series of posts trying to "joke" about voting against him. I think seraph was not necessarily accusing from the start, it was just that he caught onto this fact.
Now, I wonder why your votes are in agreement with coagulation - is there a connection between you two?
:-j i have nothing to defends myself... yet! I might be coincident.
i dont want to change my vote to either masq or (who ever the guy was protecting him).... I dont feel like working with a large crowd but always try to take a 3rd person point of view into a problem. Thats my personality. In fact, i dont want to change my vote until the last minutes unless im unsure about something.
surprisingly your, orgolove, first target are the people who are having minority votes after all the neutral post you have had. I remember each of these votes, except for jodogohoo's, has quite a reason and the voters have explain themself while u afk... Perhaps spending more times reading the older post would help you?...
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After finally sifting through the entire thread (we added 15 pages in 14 hours? lol) I think I've narrowed down my choices to these people:
Veldril
jodogohoo
Bill Murray
Masq
Masq is probably the most obvious choice there, so I don't think I have to explain my reasoning as I think everyone who has read the thread will understand.
jodogohoo is sort of a gut/impulse choice, as I feel like he's said just enough so that people won't see him as too much of a lurker, but not enough so that he will be heavily accused.
As for Veldril and Bill Murray, I'm mostly lumping them together because of their posting tendencies. This is my first game of Mafia (though I've played in real life), but from reading the few strategy guides/previous threads, it seems like one of the most important roles of scum is to stir up confusion and/or create arguments. It seems Veldril and Bill Murray have done a pretty good job of doing this and honestly, even if they are townies I wouldn't mind seeing them go since it would lead to fewer posts haha.
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@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up.
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On October 12 2010 05:25 orgolove wrote:
What I mean is, most people would not immediately vote for a guy just based on one suspicion. But indeed you were actually the one to cast your vote on him just two hours or so after the game started, based on that single suspicion. (??)
that is actually the reason why i voted for him if u understood what i said earlier =.=....
Also i voted after i found out that you can change your vote anytime b4 night so i think its not a big deal ^^
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Oh, I'm not picking on the minority voters necessarily - Please do tell me if the people I noticed have explained. But note I only say I don't know the reason for one of the votes - the rest of them I can tell why they did it, just that it still leaves some suspicion.
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On October 12 2010 05:33 seRapH wrote:
@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up.
TERRORISTS!
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On October 12 2010 05:33 seRapH wrote:
@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up.
everyone should be worried about getting lynched =.=.... you die => game over >.<....
and i dont trust you either 
let me summaries: you inspected him as a test for his reaction? and i vote for you bc you are inspecting too early? and now that google spread guy is inspecting me since i voted for you? ~_~... wow thats confusing...
If you were red you would stay low.... hmmm, i dont know about that. This is my 1st time playing this game online but i think mostly this is the game of "power". The more Power you gain, the more people will listen to you and the more people will try to get rid of you... Balancing is the way to go who ever you are. (stating this fact will make me get killed most likely -.-)
again, most likely i will change my vote so w.e.
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On October 12 2010 05:42 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 05:33 seRapH wrote:
@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up. everyone should be worried about getting lynched =.=.... you die => game over >.<.... and i dont trust you either let me summaries: you inspected him as a test for his reaction? and i vote for you bc you are inspecting too early? and now that google spread guy is inspecting me since i voted for you? ~_~... wow thats confusing... If you were red you would stay low.... hmmm, i dont know about that. This is my 1st time playing this game online but i think mostly this is the game of "power". The more Power you gain, the more people will listen to you and the more people will try to get rid of you... Balancing is the way to go who ever you are. (stating this fact will make me get killed most likely -.-) again, most likely i will change my vote so w.e.
oh idc that you voted for me. my analytical skills are mediocre at best. in addition this IS my first game. i dont think i'd risk the "power" thing if im inexperienced. and i'm aiming for a town victory, regardless of whether or not i survive it.
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I feel like the smart thing to do as scum would be to have one or two people from your team play a "disruptor" role and create confusion in the town/among the players while having the rest lay low and snipe everyone else. That's what led me to believe Veldril, Bill Murray, and now maybe a few others are scum.
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On October 12 2010 05:40 jodogohoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 05:33 seRapH wrote:
@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up. TERRORISTS!
Unnecessary.
Your posts have been plentiful and, for the most part, lacking quality. You are stirring up unneeded disruption/conflict. You will be gone soon enough.
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On October 12 2010 05:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 05:40 jodogohoo wrote:On October 12 2010 05:33 seRapH wrote:
@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up. TERRORISTS! Unnecessary. Your posts have been plentiful and, for the most part, lacking quality. You are stirring up unneeded disruption/conflict. You will be gone soon enough.
alright alright =(
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Oh, and tonight I would recommend our ghosts be on the 'good' or veteran players. Considering how many new people we have in this game, the maf will probably attempt to take out the good players at the start, leaving an easy cleanup. Especially as the maf have 6KP combined tonight.
Off the top of my head, these are the people I've played with before, probably more than this though:
pandain, southrawrea, bumatlarge, ~OpZ~, Bill Murray, LSB, thegilaboy
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I'm back!! I see Aztrorisk has been after me since the beginning, and from what ive been reading has jumped to acuses others as well.
He originally accused me of being scum because of my picture yet he also has a shadowy figure in his profile as well. Mine does look menacing but it can still be identified, only his face is covered up unlike his which is completely covered in shadows.
I wouldnt say Aztrorisk is guilty but at the same time id like to keep the possibility up.
Here's something i found pretty interesting + Show Spoiler +Not too far from the crypt where DoctorHelvetica now knew only as his grave, BloodyC0bbler was sitting in his car. He was drunk and tired from an all night party with some hot single zombie ladies and decided to take a nap in his car. Little did he know a terrible evil lurked outside his vehicle, waiting to strike. He awoke to the sound of scratching and whispering outside his door.
He stepped outside into the cold night and was grabbed from behind. A knife plunged deep into his throat, ending his struggle quickly. His body was found that morning with the face carved up like a jack o lantern. The work of a true psycho.
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The player quickstriker's name seems coincidental here but id like to go with it.
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On October 12 2010 05:48 deconduo wrote:
Oh, and tonight I would recommend our ghosts be on the 'good' or veteran players. Considering how many new people we have in this game, the maf will probably attempt to take out the good players at the start, leaving an easy cleanup. Especially as the maf have 6KP combined tonight.
Off the top of my head, these are the people I've played with before, probably more than this though:
pandain, southrawrea, bumatlarge, ~OpZ~, Bill Murray, LSB, thegilaboy
absolutely agree but i suggest if you are a ghost, you should use your time reading the posts we have so far....
Protecting veteran is a right thing to do but what if they are M or V? it will cause double the harm...
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HM ok well i dont see a single reason not to defend myself when someone is trying to point the finger at me for no reason. this is my first game of mafia so i have no idea what im doing.. but honestly it seems like a good idea to not let people make insinuations while u stand by and do nothing
im a townie a zombie in fact. im here to kill scum. if anyone wants to try and fuck the town by voting me out. your gonna hear about it.
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if you're a zombie then lynching you day 1 does zero harm. you should expect to lynch a green day 1, just by general probability and red interference. lynching reds day 1 is extremely lucky. lynching blues day 1 is not 
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On October 12 2010 04:35 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 23:07 Thegilaboy wrote:
Wow just woke up for work and I see I have some reading to do! I've got a few pages in from where I left off last night and it seems a few suspects have begun to emerge. As with all past mafia games we can't rely so strongly on clues, especially on the first night, but in time they will be helpful indicators of who is scum. I actually like BM's approach the best with post analysis, as that is where you get a real inside look at the person and see their scummy tendencies.
The voting list is somewhere to keep a close eye on as well. If some people switch their votes a lot it may indicate they are just trying to hop on the latest bandwagon for safety. The Masq clue seems pretty convincing right now, but I'm going to hold my vote a little longer after I get to finishing the last couple pages and letting the discussion go a little further. I have to agree with youngminii on that clue analysis... it feels TOO EASY. That being said, masq's actions of chainsaw defending Veldril is pretty fucking scummy in and of itself. My only problem is if Veldril is buddying up to masq as town, and masq is really our jack'o'lantern. I wouldnt want to get rid of a MH on D1. MH = mad hatter which is the same thing as jack o lantern in this game. d1 = day 1
Yeah I know what MH and D1 are lol, I've played some games of mafia before. I agree though, the clues on the first day especially can be misleading or simply too obvious. It's the posting actions of individuals that we should be most concerned about, coupled with voting tendencies and wild changes in who an individual votes for in a given day.
We also have the difficult task of managing where our blue roles should be focused on tonight. With so many people there are a lot of options, and a lot of ways it could go wrong. This seems to me to be more important than first day lynch vote. Sure it's possible we'll hit scum, and we may even get wind of a trail that leads to a lot of it, but as in most games unfortunately a vanilla townie gets the rope. The blue roles need to get planning and so that they can establish their circle and hopefully find scum in a more convincing manner than clue analysis.
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On October 12 2010 05:56 seRapH wrote:if you're a zombie then lynching you day 1 does zero harm. you should expect to lynch a green day 1, just by general probability and red interference. lynching reds day 1 is extremely lucky. lynching blues day 1 is not
well fuck.
I had no idea
so what exactly is the point of being zombie then?
everyone else gets actions and stuff to influence/control the game.
and i get the cannon fodder role? lame.
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On October 12 2010 05:56 seRapH wrote:if you're a zombie then lynching you day 1 does zero harm. you should expect to lynch a green day 1, just by general probability and red interference. lynching reds day 1 is extremely lucky. lynching blues day 1 is not
1 vote does mean alot later on if M and V try to kill each others out....
Zombie is the happiest role that everyone should wish for (! ^__^) The power from nothingness
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Yum yum vets claim to me yum yum
yum yum even if i was scum it would only help town because I would be aiming towards other enemy team yum yum
yum yum can help prevent future occurences where somebody claims vet so red can't just fake it yum yum yum
yum yum yum yum yum yum dts shouldn't unless they check me and find me sufficently pro town that im not godfather or something like that yum yum yum yum yum
yum yum medics can, but if im mafia/vampires I will of course give them semi bad advice yum yum yum yum
yum yum yum yum same with mad hatter since I wouldn't want to get my own team lynched if im red yum yum yum
likey?
+ Show Spoiler +please don't post like this
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