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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 07 2010 17:08 GMT
#241
I have come across some additional information on Pandain as well. I don't want to make it public, so PM me if you are not convinced yet and need more persuasion.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 07 2010 17:14 GMT
#242
-_- First, I know I am playing this game. I do not need to come to the site after university lectures only to have multiple people messaging me about why I am not posting much.

Shocked that mafia have two KP; that seems like pretty good reason to not let the game enter the night phase by best extent of our abilities. Also strongly suggests it wasn't mafia who killed SR since if there are additional mafia KP role I don't see him using it much early.

I'll quickly read through the thread to see the case against Pandain.

Also, is anyone here have any profile & pic related to the pandas? I am curious because that seemed to come out of nowhere.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 07 2010 17:20 GMT
#243
On September 08 2010 02:14 Hesmyrr wrote:
-_- First, I know I am playing this game. I do not need to come to the site after university lectures only to have multiple people messaging me about why I am not posting much.

Shocked that mafia have two KP; that seems like pretty good reason to not let the game enter the night phase by best extent of our abilities. Also strongly suggests it wasn't mafia who killed SR since if there are additional mafia KP role I don't see him using it much early.

I'll quickly read through the thread to see the case against Pandain.

Also, is anyone here have any profile & pic related to the pandas? I am curious because that seemed to come out of nowhere.


Pandain is well known as the panda. Read through his post history, he often refferences himself as such.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 07 2010 17:25 GMT
#244
Sorry to spam, but I decided to provide some quotes in case others were confused as well. I thought it was more commonly known.

From this Game
On August 31 2010 02:26 Pandain wrote:
Can you include a role called The Hungry Panda, and you have the ability to eat a person during the night, but can only use the ability once.
Or am I reaching too high for the skies here?


And 1 from last game
On August 25 2010 11:45 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 11:39 Divinek wrote:
kill: bill murray

well now that's out of the way lets get this show on the road


Bill Murray, Mafia RoleBlocker, is now dead

No , I'm kidding. That was just stupid. Seriously, I'm such a sad panda.

Though I did laugh


Wow actually reading that makes me wonder if Caller did add that role in since it fits perfectly lol.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 07 2010 17:30 GMT
#245
That's an actually convincing clue, but that means Pandain killed the SR? That makes me confused b/c I thought the mafia killed Radfield and BM. So he's either mafia KP role/town vigilante/third party. I actually want to hear a role claim from first before voting.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 07 2010 17:32 GMT
#246
On September 08 2010 02:25 rastaban wrote:
Sorry to spam, but I decided to provide some quotes in case others were confused as well. I thought it was more commonly known.

From this Game
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 02:26 Pandain wrote:
Can you include a role called The Hungry Panda, and you have the ability to eat a person during the night, but can only use the ability once.
Or am I reaching too high for the skies here?




Wow actually reading that makes me wonder if Caller did add that role in since it fits perfectly lol.


HOLY SHIT!

Pandain actually did kill southrawrea. Fucking hell lol.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 07 2010 17:32 GMT
#247
Caller you are awesome.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
September 07 2010 18:06 GMT
#248
OMG CALLER ACTUALLY PUT IT IN!!!!!
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
September 07 2010 18:08 GMT
#249
Caller might have done that. But it does not tell if panda is a mafia or not. He might be town and just killed someone on random the first night.
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 07 2010 18:11 GMT
#250
On September 08 2010 03:08 lakrismamma wrote:
Caller might have done that. But it does not tell if panda is a mafia or not. He might be town and just killed someone on random the first night.

Which is why I am currently asking for the roleclaim. It makes more sense as Vigilante, though you never know with the Caller.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 07 2010 18:13 GMT
#251
Also mad props to rastaband for catching that as well.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 07 2010 18:18 GMT
#252
I want to add that in about 6 hours or so, unless we have a likely second candidate, some one should Accuse me (and hopefully everyone votes no ) because otherwise we will go straight to night time as I believe the 24 hour min. will be past. I would like for us to have time to analyze how he flips and if/when he is the enemy we can then see if we can use that to find others. Since this was my accusation I won't be able to do it.

One last clue, related to death, but not SRs. Bill Murray died, but I think he left us a key clue. Not in his accusations though, because while he accused Pandain, he also accused SR and myself. Now I don't know 100%, and maybe this can be confirmed/denied by a revealed blue at a later point, but since The hit went through before day break it is possible that the other roles did too, with only the global KP waiting till day break. If we find this to be true, shortly after SRs death (when perhaps the earlier night actions were resolved) we have Bill call Opz "Comrade" and agrees with his opinion on pandain. I think that it is highly likely he was checked and came up clean if we find out later that night actions are resolved ahead of time. Just something to keep in mind. As BM said, he did all that he could for the motherland.

I am headed back to work from lunch now, but I will try and keep tabs in case anyone has questions or PMs for me.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 07 2010 18:30 GMT
#253
On September 08 2010 03:13 deconduo wrote:
Also mad props to rastaband for catching that as well.

Thanks.

On September 08 2010 03:08 lakrismamma wrote:
Caller might have done that. But it does not tell if panda is a mafia or not. He might be town and just killed someone on random the first night.


I thought the same thing, but I dug deeper and found these right after the hit.
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 06 2010 05:08 Pandain wrote:
Pandain had invited SouthRawrea for a cup of tea in his quaint humble home. That's how it started at least. They had ended up together by the campfire, reading stories to each other. And as Pandain and South both reached for the same cup of tea, they paused. They looked at each other, their lips inches apart... their faces grew close... closer.... and later that night all South had was a pair of shorts.

Pandain remembered fervently now... his door was slammed into the ground, they grabbed South, put a bag over Pandain's head, and Pandain screamed as they beat him, they suffocated him, they stabbed him, and eventually choked him to death.

Then they left Pandain, unconscious, as he woke up the next morning to find South on the ground, a pile of blood everywhere, dead.

Pandain leaned over his body, kissed his mauled face softly, and wept.

And he swore he would get revenge


My SFA friend...no....

Well this means either
1. Mafia have a kp role as well as their additional kill each night.
2. Town has a kp role and someone used it.

We can expect two deaths today my friends.


On September 06 2010 07:00 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 06:53 Radfield wrote:
On September 06 2010 04:28 Caller wrote:
News Flash
The night had hardly begun when a scream was heard in the distance. They found SouthRawrea, horribly mauled, lying on the ground wearing nothing but a pair of shorts. Upon further investigation it appeared he had suffocated from having something heavy on his chest.



Clues? Clues.... 3 clues to go with 3 likely scum?

We need Chez to make sense of this. Or the dude who figured out all the mafia on Day 1 from the clues but no one listened to him.


Well I already explained the shorts....

But I don't think it can really tell us anything other than the fact that it was a kp role. Perhaps it can tell us the specifics of the role (aka Mauler or Comp Vig for example) but other than that, the point remains the same...

Theres a monster among us.




I would be more inclined to believe the role exists and someone else has it than that pandain is one of us and has the role. He used the one time power, he should have claimed it here if he was town ass div did last game. You gain nothing by trying to cover it up unless you are mafia.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 07 2010 18:47 GMT
#254
I agree with Hesmyrr that the SR kill is most likely town or 3rd party.

I don't really see the Panda part of the death though. To me the important part seems to be the "something heavy on his chest."
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 07 2010 18:51 GMT
#255
Why must everyone be hatin on the pandas.

It's annoying (and very bad) that BumatLarge was town, but I still stand by my decision. As well as apparently ~6 other people with me. BumAtLarge was playing very differently from his normal playstyle, and based on this and Radfield's suscipsion I thought he was our best lynch.

If you're going to lynch me because of this, I beg you to see reason.

On September 07 2010 23:02 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 07:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On September 06 2010 13:31 Bill Murray wrote:
I like comrade OpZ opinion in relation to Pandain
I dislike Pandain's inability to move forward for our glorious country with his actions following that
I am suspicious of Pandain for being a Capitalist my friends with comrade OpZ

Or possibly Pandain....Yes...

##Trial Pandain

## Accuse Pandain

I am going to support this. I have felt he has been playing different this game. He has been town in all the games I have played with him, and it is usually fairly obvious. This game he has been different, the biggest thing that stands out to me is that he is not looking for or pushing for town plans. He is a player who loves town plans and usually has some of his own, they range from bad to good, but he always at least propose them. I haven't seen him pushing for any plans this game. This ontop of others suspicions makes me agree this is probably a good lynch

I will Vote for Bum but not for Div. Not sure I agree with the bum hit, but I want to see if we get the information immediately so we can sue it according to our next lynch.

last thing, there is the possibility we could end this game without another night phase. I see now that it is very important that we act while we can. We were lax yesterday like capitalist swine, but we must now work my brothers. We can learn much from our lynches and it seems that the night is filled with woe. We may very well be only able to survive 1 or 2 more nights if the enemy is so armed every night with three kills.


Alright first of all, I was mentioning this to someone in PMs, one of the reasons I am not proposing plans is because it's almost impossible actually formulate one! Think about it: Our NKVD is dead, we have NO idea about the other roles, and any of my plans revolved around using special roles. That's why I'm not formulating plans.

On September 08 2010 01:42 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 01:34 deconduo wrote:
On September 08 2010 01:22 rastaban wrote:
unfortunate that we lost another brother in this hunt, but we must all be willing to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the collective.

Bumatlarge Waggon
Divinek(Accuser)
Deconduo
Rastaban
lakrismamma
Pandain (Not too sure about this yet, but seeing as Pandain put him on trial...)
~OPZ~

Let us Divinek from this what we can.

1. This the votes above are 1 short of a majority, there is at least 1 undeclared vote that was placed on him.
2. We learned immediately his role (good to know).
3. It was highly unlikely him and Pandain were both enemies of the state so his loyalty, means Pandain is not cleared. I think we should proceed with the Pandain lynch.


I've already voted no for the Pandain lynch, but I'm going to see if we're allowed change that now. The biggest thing that worries me is if Pandain is also town. Then we are 5 down going into a night phase that will possibly leave us on lylo if not worse. The number of people lurking is seriously pissing me off as well, especially if they are town. They are being a severe hinderance to us because of the hidden votes. The way this game is going, we will probably lose because of them.


It also makes it hard for us to know if they are being active or not, since we can't tell if they are refreshing and just voting in the different groups when they come up.

One thing to add, I have never played in a game with clues before but the "Horribly Mauled" and the Large Thing on his chest could have been a reference to a panda. It might be a reach though, since I have no idea how obvious or vague these things tend to be. I have tried going through some player profiles to look for clues but that is the only one that stood out to me so far.

What the fadoodle? Seriously? First of all, pandas are peaceful(they eat bamboo you know :p) Second of all, that's going way too far. Random speculation is not ftw. Omg... I was going to laugh but I realized I could die because of this.

And whats this with Caller actually putting in The Hungry Panda? Do you guys actually believe any of this? Seriously?

And I would NEVER kill SR, he was my SFA member. Anyone who knows me should know that for a fact.


So right now, unless you guys have any more real evidence, I don't see why I'm on death's row. If I do die, I want everyone looking at Rastaban closely because he's been speculating like crazy.


Omg.... do you guys really think Caller would totally alter the balance of the game and put in The Hungry Panda. Though I would <3 him forever if he did, that is simply not the case. Please, people Of Soviet Liquidville, use reason.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 07 2010 18:51 GMT
#256
On September 08 2010 02:08 rastaban wrote:
I have come across some additional information on Pandain as well. I don't want to make it public, so PM me if you are not convinced yet and need more persuasion.


And what is this additional information? Please...share it. Or why would you not want it public?

Give me a chance to defend myself at least.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 07 2010 18:58 GMT
#257
Seriously, I just had a bad day today and I want to lay down the Panda Smackdown on some people.

So come at me with your evidence, I'll rebute it. Then perhaps some people will use their minds.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 07 2010 19:02 GMT
#258
I am voting for Pandain lynch. He just slipped up in PM conversation with me and I am sure he is SK.

at least 2 kp
1 mafia
1 hungry panda
seriously, looking two much into this.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
You yourself said on that post that when conceptualizing The Hungry Panda that it will be only be able to use it's ability one time. Where did the at least 2 KP come from? It only makes sense if you think the role can make a kill every night. I am now completely sure you are SK who slipped up.

gg

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
with what?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
I'm sorry, but I am going to have to come forward with this.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Well? What do you think about me?

Still don't see how ANYONE could think Caller would just put in The Hungry Panda at the last second. If he did put it in there like I described it, then there would be at least 2 kills per night, possibly 3 with an extra mafia kp.

THAT IS NOT BALANCED!
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 07 2010 19:03 GMT
#259
On September 08 2010 04:02 Hesmyrr wrote:
I am voting for Pandain lynch. He just slipped up in PM conversation with me and I am sure he is SK.

Show nested quote +
at least 2 kp
1 mafia
1 hungry panda
seriously, looking two much into this.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
You yourself said on that post that when conceptualizing The Hungry Panda that it will be only be able to use it's ability one time. Where did the at least 2 KP come from? It only makes sense if you think the role can make a kill every night. I am now completely sure you are SK who slipped up.

gg

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
with what?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
I'm sorry, but I am going to have to come forward with this.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Well? What do you think about me?

Still don't see how ANYONE could think Caller would just put in The Hungry Panda at the last second. If he did put it in there like I described it, then there would be at least 2 kills per night, possibly 3 with an extra mafia kp.

THAT IS NOT BALANCED!


SERIOUSLY? I JUST PMED YOU ABOUT THIS
*takes a deep breath*

THIS is what I call not logical.
1 kp from Theoretical hungry panda
1 kp from mafia
1 possible extra kp becuase of the three deaths

Panda Smack down has been delivered.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 07 2010 19:03 GMT
#260
Oh look i died. I hope mafia wins.
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