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~OpZ~
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On September 07 2010 16:15 ~OpZ~ wrote: Also, a very important thing to note. We should definitely lynch all inactives. Due to mafia being able to vote in the dark, they have no reason to build cases. They can sit and be quiet all game, and just PM caller yes votes. I woudn't go that far, but I do agree we should be putting on much more pressure. On another note, I think I will be voting yes to the bumatlarge lynch and no to the Divinek lynch. I feel like theres not enough evidence to support a lynch against Divinek. From what I can see, the only thing against him is the fact that he assumed Red corpse = mafia as opposed to town. While it is suspicious that he wouldn't question it if he got a Red role PM, I don't think its enough to lynch him just yet. I would keep a very close watch on what he's voting, who he wants to lynch and who he is defending, especially if bumatlarge flips town. Bumatlarge I feel is our best choice at the moment. Radfield told 2 people to consider lynching him if he died during the night, which he did. Not only that, but when Divinek accused him he instantly OMGUSed, saying he'd be happy to die if he takes down Divinek and Pandain with him. This is not pro-town behaviour. Bum's posts: + Show Spoiler + Day 1: + Show Spoiler + On September 05 2010 02:58 bumatlarge wrote: Comrade Hesmyrr is unfamiliar with mother Russia, it would seem. Suspicious comrades? On September 05 2010 13:41 bumatlarge wrote: Can only red army officers make accusations? First is a pretty pointless 1 liner, but it does poke a bit a Hesmyrr for no reason. Could just be for fun. Second post is much more interesting, almost suggestiong he's not a red army officer. Considering 1 NKVD is dead and we have no idea if we even have more, this sets off alarm bells for me. Night 1: + Show Spoiler + On September 06 2010 06:49 bumatlarge wrote: What the balls is going on. At least south was vanilla(?), but Im pretty lost comrades. And I doubt anyone but caller could make sense of it. We kinda need to kill someone tomorrow. On September 06 2010 08:29 bumatlarge wrote: Let's kill pandain. His name sounds like a pair of pants, and he just made advances on me via PM. On September 06 2010 08:48 bumatlarge wrote: But do bum's come one to you out of depression? (not literally...) First and third are meaningless again I think. Second, wants to lynch pandain. Now, I'm quite suspicious of Pandain myself at the moment, but bum gives no legitimate reasons apart from 'making advances via PM' This is another scum mark in my book. Day 2: + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2010 10:41 bumatlarge wrote: Well what am i supposed to say? There really isnt alot to go on unless there are clues. I didn't get any PMs from radfield, and everyone I got from padain I absolutely no reason to reply to. Im suspicious because I said I was confused? Who isn't? Basically you are going on nothing. Congratulations town! On September 07 2010 10:52 bumatlarge wrote: Oh I apologize for not contributing as much as you pandain. How about we kill myself pandain and divinek. Id be ok with that. ##Accuse Divinek He's put on trial by Pandain, and rather than defending himself he goes on an all out offensive. When he is accused by Divinek for this, he immediately accuses back. Calls town idiots basically. Summary: Not looking healthy for Bumatlarge in my opinion. He's quick to lash out at people and has given quite a few scum signs. I do think this is a good lynch. A few people I'm wary of right now as well: Pandain - Giving off a scummy vibe, seems to be PMing everyone from what I can tell. Might just be overeager, but definitely needs to be watched. Divinek - Don't think he should be lynched today, but I do think keeping an eye on him is a good idea. Rastaban - Lurking Hesmyrr - Lurking + some scummy stuff day 1 Zeks - Hardcore lurking, likely to be modkilled possibly? | ||
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
On September 07 2010 14:38 Infundibulum wrote: ugh i keep forgetting to consolidate my thoughts. The following posters have yet to make an appearance during Day 2: zeks (most inactive player in the game) Hesmyrr lakrismamma rastaban You guys all need to start speaking up. I know it's Labor Day weekend so some people probably have a valid excuse for being afk, but cmon now Fair enough! On September 07 2010 08:26 LSB wrote: Only problem with Pandian Pandain PMed Caller to see if the Mafia have any KP. This means either A) Pandain is mafia and trying to make up some reason that will get us not to think he is mafia B) Pandain is town and was confused I believe Pandain is town he has written useful posts, and that he even asks Caller means that he is more likely town than not. That the town is confused is allright because it is a confusing game and the rules was not clear in the begining. On September 07 2010 08:51 Divinek wrote: i most definitely support this trial. I always assume if bum is on the evil side im gonna die night one, but i suppose that is less likely when they have a lower kp, and last game he didnt even want me to die  . It's weird he pushes for my lynch all the time when he's town but never kills me as mafia.He always posts stupid innocuous posts that dont really say much, but make it look like he's here. Like once a day. But when the fire is on his ass he starts talking up so yes. But for actual reasoning, he acts like the typical confused mafia, and does a little light fanning of flames like lets kill Y! etc ##Accuse BumatLarge I dont think it's too likely we had more than one nkvd... sad times. I agree that bum hasn't been very useful so far (neither have I ) I don't think he has acted very scummy but he is usually more helpful I believe. I think he is a good lynch. What makes me vote yes is this. On September 07 2010 10:52 bumatlarge wrote: Oh I apologize for not contributing as much as you pandain. How about we kill myself pandain and divinek. Id be ok with that. ##Accuse Divinek You know better than to accuse someone without a motivation. The thing about not knowing what the color red means is an indication but I think we need more than that. On September 07 2010 14:05 Divinek wrote: im reminded of a game where you were a suicide bomber. And now you only start to talk AFTER someone says 'hmm good lynch option' I agree Xelin is acting vey much alike the game when he was the suicide bomber. But lets take one step at the time. It doesent help if we throw too many accusations around at the same time. If bums lynch doesnt go through then I think that Xelin is a decent alternative to prlong the time. | ||
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lakrismamma
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On September 07 2010 07:31 ~OpZ~ wrote: Or possibly Pandain....Yes... ##Trial Pandain ## Accuse Pandain I am going to support this. I have felt he has been playing different this game. He has been town in all the games I have played with him, and it is usually fairly obvious. This game he has been different, the biggest thing that stands out to me is that he is not looking for or pushing for town plans. He is a player who loves town plans and usually has some of his own, they range from bad to good, but he always at least propose them. I haven't seen him pushing for any plans this game. This ontop of others suspicions makes me agree this is probably a good lynch I will Vote for Bum but not for Div. Not sure I agree with the bum hit, but I want to see if we get the information immediately so we can sue it according to our next lynch. last thing, there is the possibility we could end this game without another night phase. I see now that it is very important that we act while we can. We were lax yesterday like capitalist swine, but we must now work my brothers. We can learn much from our lynches and it seems that the night is filled with woe. We may very well be only able to survive 1 or 2 more nights if the enemy is so armed every night with three kills. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Supporting bumatlarge lynch: Divinek(Accuser) Deconduo Rastaban lakrismamma Pandain (Not too sure about this yet, but seeing as Pandain put him on trial...) ~OPZ~ Against bumatlarge lynch: LSB(possibly, supported him but didn't declare a vote yet) Supporting Divinek Lynch: bumatlarge (Accuser) Against Divinek Lynch: deconduo rastaban lakrismamma Supporting Pandain Lynch: rastaban (Accuser) bumatlarge(Just assuming again for now, nothing declared yet) ~OPZ~ (another assumption) Against Pandain Lynch: ? I'd appreciate it if people would post their votes as soon as they decide, and also to correct me if I have anything down thats wrong. Anyone not declaring their votes is being very very suspicous. Lurking is not an excuse. Don't forget you can abstain, but you also need to declare that. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On September 07 2010 23:23 deconduo wrote: As for me, I don't think that both pandain and bumatlarge could be maf, bussing like that would be kind of dumb imo. I'm going to vote no on the Pandain lynch. Again, I'm not saying I believe Pandain is town, I just think that we should wait to see what bum flips first as it looks like he is going to get lynched. This is probably wise play, since the pandain trial has just started we can wait till bum flips (if he gets enough votes) and then try and move from there. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
Bumatlarge is to be executed. Execution will take place immediately. Pending Judgements: Pandain-10 or so hours remaining. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
Bumatlarge was shot through the head. Quite painless when one considers how everybody else so far has died. If you haven't done so I advise doing so. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On September 08 2010 00:55 Caller wrote: Execution: Bumatlarge was shot through the head. Quite painless when one considers how everybody else so far has died. If you haven't done so I advise doing so. Ok thats a clear indication to start looking for clues in the death messages. Lets get cracking. Also I have to say I'm pretty shocked at bum turning out to be a townie. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Radfield died with a blade in his side, while Bill Murray collapsed, his veins devoid of red. Not really much to go on | ||
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rastaban
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unfortunate that we lost another brother in this hunt, but we must all be willing to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the collective.Bumatlarge Waggon Divinek(Accuser) Deconduo Rastaban lakrismamma Pandain (Not too sure about this yet, but seeing as Pandain put him on trial...) ~OPZ~ Let us Divinek from this what we can. 1. This the votes above are 1 short of a majority, there is at least 1 undeclared vote that was placed on him. 2. We learned immediately his role (good to know). 3. It was highly unlikely him and Pandain were both enemies of the state so his loyalty, means Pandain is not cleared. I think we should proceed with the Pandain lynch. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On September 08 2010 01:22 rastaban wrote: unfortunate that we lost another brother in this hunt, but we must all be willing to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the collective.Bumatlarge Waggon Divinek(Accuser) Deconduo Rastaban lakrismamma Pandain (Not too sure about this yet, but seeing as Pandain put him on trial...) ~OPZ~ Let us Divinek from this what we can. 1. This the votes above are 1 short of a majority, there is at least 1 undeclared vote that was placed on him. 2. We learned immediately his role (good to know). 3. It was highly unlikely him and Pandain were both enemies of the state so his loyalty, means Pandain is not cleared. I think we should proceed with the Pandain lynch. I've already voted no for the Pandain lynch, but I'm going to see if we're allowed change that now. The biggest thing that worries me is if Pandain is also town. Then we are 5 down going into a night phase that will possibly leave us on lylo if not worse. The number of people lurking is seriously pissing me off as well, especially if they are town. They are being a severe hinderance to us because of the hidden votes. The way this game is going, we will probably lose because of them. | ||
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
On September 07 2010 23:02 rastaban wrote: ## Accuse Pandain I am going to support this. I have felt he has been playing different this game. He has been town in all the games I have played with him, and it is usually fairly obvious. This game he has been different, the biggest thing that stands out to me is that he is not looking for or pushing for town plans. He is a player who loves town plans and usually has some of his own, they range from bad to good, but he always at least propose them. I haven't seen him pushing for any plans this game. This ontop of others suspicions makes me agree this is probably a good lynch I will Vote for Bum but not for Div. Not sure I agree with the bum hit, but I want to see if we get the information immediately so we can sue it according to our next lynch. last thing, there is the possibility we could end this game without another night phase. I see now that it is very important that we act while we can. We were lax yesterday like capitalist swine, but we must now work my brothers. We can learn much from our lynches and it seems that the night is filled with woe. We may very well be only able to survive 1 or 2 more nights if the enemy is so armed every night with three kills. That is interesting because I thought he played the same. But you are right about the plans. I want Pandain to explain himself. We are not in a hurry since we still have 9 hours before the lynchtime is up. I think that we should wait with the votes until Pandain has had a chance to defend himself. I'm looking for the clues in peoples profiles right now, I think everyone should do the same. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On September 08 2010 01:34 deconduo wrote: I've already voted no for the Pandain lynch, but I'm going to see if we're allowed change that now. The biggest thing that worries me is if Pandain is also town. Then we are 5 down going into a night phase that will possibly leave us on lylo if not worse. The number of people lurking is seriously pissing me off as well, especially if they are town. They are being a severe hinderance to us because of the hidden votes. The way this game is going, we will probably lose because of them. It also makes it hard for us to know if they are being active or not, since we can't tell if they are refreshing and just voting in the different groups when they come up. One thing to add, I have never played in a game with clues before but the "Horribly Mauled" and the Large Thing on his chest could have been a reference to a panda. It might be a reach though, since I have no idea how obvious or vague these things tend to be. I have tried going through some player profiles to look for clues but that is the only one that stood out to me so far. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
(I have inserted Names and post order into the PMs because I know I have a horrible time following them when they are posted in threads) Pandain - 3 I'm going to admit i also misunderstood your argument. I thought you just wanted to have seperate posts by one person that normally woudl just happen in one. But anyway I'm just worried, wouldn't this stop scum hunting from its full potential. I mean, I know there have been numerous times where a town won just because one guy just pounded mafia over and over and managed to convince everyone. It just seems to me that scum won't really even need to invest two people regardless. ----------------------------------------- Rastaban - 2 Original Message: I must admit, I did not really understand your argument. I must be up front and admit that I am a member of the greatest communist power known. The Swarm. I give all to the queen and in return she satisfies all of my needs. As she says "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". It seems to me that the hive-mind is much better than each working on his own. Why do I need individual thought when the collectives mind is far superior. ----------------------------------------- Pandain - 1 Original Message: Dear Fellow Comrade Rastaban, At our last meeting I talked to you about my worry that your plan may be too thin, that we will be unable to find the liars, thus negating the whole point of your plan in the first point. Did you understand my point? I'm sorry I had to leave, but as you know I had some personal troubles with Comrade BumatLarge Sincerely, Pandain | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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