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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On September 26 2010 03:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: That looks like the type of post I made every time I got an innocent lynched in Mafia XII. This was the best mafia game ever rofl | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
Night 2 The distinct scent of honey came from the hallways. Everyone stayed in their rooms, except Pandain and BrownBear, both drawn to the scent. They went outside their rooms, curious to investigate the scent. Their door closed behind them. Before they knew what was happening, a swarm of bees attacked them from all sides. Everyone came out in the morning to find two swollen bodies in the hallway. They followed the hallway down to another room, a double noose hung from the ceiling. Good luck boys~ + Show Spoiler + Pandain and BrownBear beed to death. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
[Vote]Team 3 | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
Night 1 it was between Ace and our team, tonight it was between Pandain/BB and Team 2. Guessed wrong both times and someone died. Actually my fault, since there were slightly more interesting reasons to protect both Ace + Pandain/BB. Not thinking T_T | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On September 26 2010 10:53 Incognito wrote: Its pretty sad I guessed wrong both times. Night 1 it was between Ace and our team, tonight it was between Pandain/BB and Team 2. Guessed wrong both times and someone died. Actually my fault, since there were slightly more interesting reasons to protect both Ace + Pandain/BB. Not thinking T_T You're guessing wrong again with your vote there by the way. Consider a few things from my perspective (that I'm green). You wanted to kill team 1. Team 1 voted to kill team 6 yesterday, and team 1 originally voted to kill team 2 the first day (before moving to No Lynch). After reviewing the votes and suspicions it doesn't seem to make much sense for any of the mafia to have voted for their teammate. Assuming that nobody is linked to team 1 (except for rastaban and I). Your teammate revealed that you were either red or blue. Apparently you're claiming blue now. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now and believe your claim, although I'm sure other people are going to have something to say about it. Thus that leaves teams 2 and 6 as mafia. Vote: team 6 | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On September 26 2010 10:51 Incognito wrote: Oops [Vote]Team 3 You just said you were going to vote for team 1, mind clarifying why you switched over without stating a reason. I talked with Foolishness and while I am not sure I believe your claim I think team 6 is the safer lynch. [Vote]Team 6 | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On September 26 2010 11:59 Infundibulum wrote: i did? i need to start posting on no sleep fix'd | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
1) Incog has good reason to kill Ace Look at this post On September 22 2010 09:33 Ace wrote: Clearly though, LSB has been posting god knows what and well I'm a little intrigued by this post of yours. I thought you were a good player so how could you actually believe this nonsense you just posted? The only thing worrying me is that Incognito seems to have pegged both your teams also which shows his scumdar is operating on great batteries like mine, or he's just good at picking off easy townies. Ace is initially saying that he suspects the same people as Incognito. However, at the same time, Ace notes that this is a really easy way to pick off townies. Incog has been taking little posts, and blowing them out of proportion. In fact, when I confront Incognito about this, he just brushes it off, and ignores it. On September 24 2010 17:10 Incognito wrote: Relevant section of Ace's post here: Key word also. This means Ace pegged your teams too. Ace shows his cards here. He agrees that Team 1/7 are scummy. The way he phrases it shows that he independently arrived at his conclusion too and is not just sheepishly agreeing with me. I'm not assuming anything. I'm just stating facts. The facts are: Ace pegged your teams. Ace's death makes perfect sense when you see this fact. Notice that Incognito doesn’t even address this fact. When I later pressure him he still tries to shift the focus. Incog has good reason to off Ace. Ace was the only one suspicious of his activities at that time. 2) Incog’s attack on me was engineered to persuade people who did not play with me in recent games First of all, look at Incog’s attack of me. He pulls out my rookie game, and then says that I am the planner in the group. Of course, if you’ve played with me, you’d know that I am an extremely cautious player. Indeed. Look at the final vote count for day 1 against me bumatlarge Team 2 Divinek Team 2 Infundibulum: Team 8 YellowInk SouthRawrea Team 2 The only person who wasn’t on team 2 (the team I was suspicious of), and team 8. (Incog’s team) was YellowInk, and YellowInk has never played with me before. I actually find it quite strange that Team 2 seems to follow Team 8 around a lot 3) Incog Attacks Team 7 because they are the easier target. Here is Incog’s initial attack of Team 7 On September 23 2010 18:52 Incognito wrote: A few posts back, I noted Pyrr's defense of YellowInk: My original post states that YellowInk's behavior is "interesting". My comment also implies that this "interesting" behavior is suspicious. In this post, Pyrr is being apologetic about YellowInk's behavior and is trying to justify it. Why is this weird? First of all, Pyrr hasn't really been directly defending people other than himself. In this post, he defends YellowInk directly, theorizing why YI would behave in such a way. Pyrr hasn't been defending anyone directly (although he has been saying we should give people time to respond before accusing aggressively (which in essence is its own type of defense)), yet pops up out of the blue to defend YellowInk. The most plausible reason why Pyrr did this is because YI is his other mafia teammate. Furthermore, in my original post, I merely stated that YI's behavior was "interesting". But Pyrr feels a need to defend YI preemptively. The are other possible reasons why Pyrr did this (like, he wanted to clarify a possibility), but these possibilities are improbable. Pyrr hasn't really been the clarifying type this game. He has had a far greater role raising questions about other teams: namely, Teams 2 and 6, and all of a sudden he pops up to clarify what someone was thinking? This is an out of place defense and certainly warrants heavy suspicion. Finally, the circumstances under which Pyrr defended YellowInk are out of place. Look at the posts of Pyrr and YellowInk and their relation to one another. On page 17, YellowInk says that he agrees with what people (presumably me?) had to say about Team 1's scumminess. He follows that with a vote on Team 1. He never changes that vote. Two pages later is Pyrr's post defending YellowInk. Pyrr is defending YellowInk even though YellowInk is voting for him. Now just think about that for a moment. Why would you defend someone who has voted for you? It doesn't make sense to defend someone who voted for you if you were a townie. The only reason why you would do that is if BOTH PLAYERS ARE MAFIA. Pyrr's defense of YellowInk confirms my suspicion that YellowInk didn't really want to lynch Pyrr and used meeple's no-lynch to effectively neutralize his vote. Pyrr wants to support YellowInk but overlooks the fact that YellowInk voted for him. Oh well, I'm happy with two easy mafia. First of all, Pyrr did not defend YellowInk. He merely tried to find an explanation for YellowInk’s actions. Secondly, this is completely an completely illigit accusation. Incog through a whole bunch of dirt on Me and Pyrr day one, and I find it really strange that he suffered a bout of ADHD, and decided to attack team 7 instead. His basic premise was that I was supposedly mafia (which was wrong in the first place), and in turn, Team 7 must be mafia. I believe the reason that he switched targets was that he thought that he couldn’t kill me, so hit picked someone that Foolishness would agreed on for a kill. Let’s look at the voting stats Incognito Team 8 Divinek Team 2 Foolishness Team 3 RebirthOfLeGenD Team 6 rastaban Team 3 bumatlarge Team 2 BloodyC0bbler Team 6 In reality, the only team who truly agreed with Incog was team 3, that’s because Incog chose the right person to attack. Team 8 / Team 2 have been voting together. Team 6 voted so that they could live 4) Killing Pandian/BB On September 26 2010 10:51 Incognito wrote: Oops [Vote]Team 3 Wut? It looks like he’s trying to act like that he’s given up. The defeated townie act. On September 26 2010 10:53 Incognito wrote: Its pretty sad I guessed wrong both times. Night 1 it was between Ace and our team, tonight it was between Pandain/BB and Team 2. Guessed wrong both times and someone died. Actually my fault, since there were slightly more interesting reasons to protect both Ace + Pandain/BB. Not thinking T_T Medic claim. So Incog is either red or Medic. I don’t know why Incog would do this. Here’s a possible explanation. Maybe Incog thought Pandian and BB was medic. I’ll go through their posts and see if anything there might indicate that they looked like a blue role. After finding out that Pandian/BB was that not the medic, he probably assumed that there was no medic. In a normal 7 person game, there is a 50% chance of a medic. Decent odds, and Incog would probably outargue a counterclaim This is an 8 person game, so it’s even harder for the mafia. Maybe Incog assumed that Korr wouldn’t put a medic because the odds were even lower. But why would Incog pull such a desperate maneuver? Well, it’s Lylo. All Incog has to do is make sure that he doesn’t get killed and his scum buddy doesn’t get killed, and they win. ##Vote:Team 8 | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On September 26 2010 12:45 Infundibulum wrote: Really though, where did i say that? I feel dumb now Doesn't really matter. Just look through all of BC's posts and tell me how he could possibly not be mafia. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On September 26 2010 11:02 Foolishness wrote: You're guessing wrong again with your vote there by the way. Consider a few things from my perspective (that I'm green). You wanted to kill team 1. Team 1 voted to kill team 6 yesterday, and team 1 originally voted to kill team 2 the first day (before moving to No Lynch). After reviewing the votes and suspicions it doesn't seem to make much sense for any of the mafia to have voted for their teammate. Assuming that nobody is linked to team 1 (except for rastaban and I). Your teammate revealed that you were either red or blue. Apparently you're claiming blue now. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now and believe your claim, although I'm sure other people are going to have something to say about it. Thus that leaves teams 2 and 6 as mafia. Vote: team 6 Although Team 6 is on my list of mafia. Holes are leaking through BloodlyCobbler has a good excuse for being inactive On September 25 2010 07:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote: To start with, I apologize for my insane inactivity this game. Have spent a fair amount of my mornings/afternoons job hunting, then out with friends I haven't seen for months at night. Few peoples birthdays, as well as a family in the hospital leads to me being insanely busy (much more so than I was anticipating). I have managed to garner time and look over the debates on today's lynch and some of the arguments are fairly convincing so I shall trust you guys this once as I won't have the time to go more carefully into things till tomorrow at the earliest. As such to avoid being modkilled. Vote team 7 I am am leaning twordes mafia for RebirthOfLeGenD, but I am absolutely sure that Incog is mafia. And I'd like to lynch the person that I feel is the most scummy first. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On September 26 2010 10:53 Incognito wrote: Its pretty sad I guessed wrong both times. Night 1 it was between Ace and our team, tonight it was between Pandain/BB and Team 2. Guessed wrong both times and someone died. Actually my fault, since there were slightly more interesting reasons to protect both Ace + Pandain/BB. Not thinking T_T lol seriously? This is ballsy. Alright guys shits on the line now anyway. I am the medic and I have been self protecting every night. Lets analyze Incognito's posts this entire game and take into account what he must be thinking going into the final day. First off, today is lylo and I am seeing incog looking at this as an end game situation and trying to end it on a balls deep move. Yesterday he was the first person to divert the lynch train from team 1 to team 7 which seemed really random considering how intense he was about them the previous day. Then when the day ended in an unfavorable lynch he ended emo mode. A mode I have seen before. On September 25 2010 17:53 Incognito wrote: Dang I'm good at being pro-mafia. I'm too disheartened to defend myself, so go ahead and lynch me. I will still be voting for Team 1, although nobody is in the clear at this point. This is our last chance to lynch a mafia, and nobody's really done a good job at looking pro-town at this point. Pyrr actually mentions it later in this thread. In mafia XII (I believe?) me and pyrrhuloxia were mafia and everyday pyrr would mislead the town to a bad lynch and apologize profusely and say he understands if we want to lynch him THEN just kept leading the down astray. It was a beautiful play by him and won us the game. I feel like hes trying to add to our empathy for him by claiming medic because he didn't believe we actually had one. Now hes trying to force us to mislynch in a lylo situation. Team 8 is mafia from incognitos suspect mislynches all the way up to his fake claim of being medic when we are in a lylo situation. If you guys honestly feel its necessary I can do a full analysis on team 8. But honestly think this is more than enough information to go on. Infundi has been playing the lurker mafia and Incognito has been leading us astray the entire game culminating in this final coup de grace. Vote: Team 8 | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On September 26 2010 12:53 Foolishness wrote: Doesn't really matter. Just look through all of BC's posts and tell me how he could possibly not be mafia. BC is very inactive. When BC has been mafia in past game he does this inactive thing too, but eventually he will make 1 or 2 really long analysis posts that try to throw the town off while making them say "only a townie would write such long posts!". I haven't seen him do that this game, but that's probably because he hasn't needed to - we've been pretty far off the fucking track this game so a silent mafia makes more sense in my mind. Why would BC need to distract the town when we're all going after team 7, who were townies? I agree that BC has not been playing in a pro town manner but i don't know if it's enough to make me say that he's 100% mafia for sure. What do you think about Rebirthoflegend, his partner? I think he's been contributing a fair bit more than BC,On the first day where he discussed the merits of No Lynching, and supported incognito's "medic list" against your criticism. Later, he puts out analysis on LSB, Pyrr, meeple and Yellowink. So i think generally he's been trying to help, isn't afraid to take a stand, and not afraid of being visible. However one thing I noticed is that early on BC and RoL vote for lynching Foolishness and Rastaban first. I can't help but wonder if you are harboring some grudge because of this? On the topic of your team, your partner is playing just as badly as BC, by the way, which has been really unsettling all game to me. I've also been borderline on you, but the fact that you're willing to trust our medic claim speaks volumes to me. --- I notice that Incog seems to be taking a lot of heat for pushing team 7. But so did many other players, including Foolishness and SouthRawrea and Pandain and RebirthofLegend - it was NOT a solitary team 8 effort AT ALL, but I expect to see some people (mafia) misconstruing it that way, as LSB is doing in the posts previous to this. As I predicted, Team 1 is coming out of the woodwork to push the lynch target onto us. Not surprising, when you think about the spotlight my team ended up in. LSB is pulling an "Incognito pushed a lynch on a green, therefore he is mafia!" move and I sincerely hope none of you are willing to fall for that. I'm probably going to have to defend Incog in his stead since i think he gave up on this game. But he might be back, I am not sure. As a summary I agree with you that BC is playing like a turd, which is unfortunate. However RoL has been very open and pro town in my view, so I don't want to lynch team 6 because of this. I would rather lynch team 1. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
should have refreshed before post! | ||
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