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On August 28 2010 02:36 citi.zen wrote:
In the spirit of offering my thoughts before the night comes, here's my list of people worth investigating:
Chaoser - too quiet for my taste / not trying to contribute
LSB - went over his posts yesterday, he responded fine, but can't hurt to check
BrownBear - Too quiet / not trying to contribute
siNiquity - A few strange posts here and there, like the little exchange with Fishball or the early argument that we as long as number picks are kept secret we don't need a weighting algorithm
Divinek - odd pick + shooting on day 1, even if it was BM.
At the end of the day I fear Radfield might be right guessing we don't have that many investigative roles despite the plan, so we'll need to at least force more forum activity out of people.
You should take a look at Darth.
BrownBear does need to post more. And I'm comfortable on LSB as of right now...wait...shit...I dunno if he knew his role as of then, but he offered himself up to be day vigged in a plan that...involved pms...haha fuck I forgot that. DAMMIT. I deleted my post...>___<
*im crying right now, so upset with myself.
On August 26 2010 22:35 rastaban wrote:
@Opz, this is also why role cop was considered so good. If town took 0 KP roles then when RC found one we could lynch them, it also made BB able to lynch when he found a gun since it was mafia. Since we now have the day vig claiing to be town, and possibly others this method isn't as sure fire, because BB will find he has a gun just like he finds mafia have a gun. RC sees him with a KP role, that we left to go to mafia.
Thank you. It's upsetting to me though. I also severely distrust good players.
And for some reason I didn't read page 36. Wtf.
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On August 28 2010 04:17 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 04:12 SouthRawrea wrote:
What's with all the confusion about the type of vanilla? Night post said it was Vanilla townie and the colour of the word was green? I think he's wonder what kind of result the role cop would get. Ace already said that Vanilla Sk/Mafia/Town would return the same result. Vanilla
On August 28 2010 04:12 SouthRawrea wrote:
What's with all the confusion about the type of vanilla? Night post said it was Vanilla townie and the colour of the word was green?
...should I repost my whole thing MINUS that role cop shit?
Or is that what everyone is going to talk about. I put a challenge on everyone in there. What should the tracker do, in their opinion. Now please post that. I think I made a post explaining it already as a matter of fact.
On August 28 2010 02:40 ~OpZ~ wrote:
EBWOP:
Why would you propose checking zeks role, as opposed to someone low on the list, who is more likely to return a role of Vanilla?
(Ace, is it Vanilla Town, Vanilla Mafia, or just Vanilla? Plz God tell me it's Vanilla Town/Mafia, not that I care too much anymore. Playlist should be decent I figured but so many vets not posting shit. Damn, this question is answered already, nevermind. DAMMIT FUCK WE LISTENED TO RADFIELD. I guess I can't sit out before picks now god dammit!)
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DID NOT KNOW about Vanilla being returned til I reread thread. I ignore Ace a lot. Habit, sorry.
Yes, rolecop. You should be checking someone up in the clouds of the pick world. Below five, but over 14 -15.
yea...I did. You all gonna do something now or keep talking about that? There is more in my post than that.
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On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.
And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.
High five for believing this.
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On August 28 2010 12:18 citi.zen wrote:
If Zeks lied there would presumably be another person out there who took a mafia hit, unless the mafia made the nonsensical decision not to hit anyone. Also, given how fast he claimed, I doubt he is the traitor - too little time to come up with such a plan.
If Zeks told the truth, either Southrawarea lied, or there is a traitor in the top 3.
Good call. But South is constantly saying lynch him. So I'm kind of confused. Playing on towns sympathy?
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On August 29 2010 02:22 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 02:18 bumatlarge wrote:
Time to be useful. I am the god damn batman
BumAtLarge was less tipsy then he wanted to be that night, stumbling around people's backyards. He had his favorite batman mask on of course. He found himself in a bush, right next to zeks' backdoor! What a nice gentleman, always giving bum change. Before bum had the chance to leave the kind man's abode, a spiffy looking fellow came through the backway (only zeks' closest friends came that way). Bum's vision was wiggty-wack, so he couldnt recognize him. Zeks greeted the man late at night with open arms. Soon after a scruffy man with blood in his eyes, looking for answers cam crashing over the fence. he almost ran right into bum, but he was to preoccupied with his mission (whatever that was. Immediately two other men broke from hiding paces, ignoring each other and heading straight through the backdoor. A large tussel took place, and bum was too drunk to actually help (HE WASNT SCARED, HES THE GODDAMN BATMAN)
Moments later, all 4 men left chasing one another into the night. Zeks, alive thank heavens, stared out at them a few seconds with a wide open mouth, that turned into determination rather quickly. He phoned the police, and bum knew better then to loiter much longer.
The next day, zeks stood in trial to decide the truth to his story. It turns out he was a suspect in the mishandling of some docuements, leading people to doubt him. Bum came up as his alter ego, Brum Warge, homeless philosopher extraordinaire. He verified zeks tune, and gave zeks a wink, but zeks was glaring intently ahead, that determined look again. Bum couldn't really sort out zeks motives, as he never finished 3rd grade, but he was willing to put his life in the hands of the town with zeks to authenticate what happened that night.
THE GOD DAMN BATMAN What are you trying to say? Is this anything meaningful or just useless jibber-jabberooni
He just claimed watcher and said 4 people visited zeks last night.
Also, He's fucking bat man....or bat shit insane....but atleast he is drunk.....and at large
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On August 29 2010 02:43 SiNiquity wrote:
So bum watches zeks, 4 people (presumably all mafia) visit zeks in the night (i.e. target to kill). Is this number the pre- or post-SK kill? Depending on the answer there's either 4 or 3 mafia members remaining (5 or 4 if zeks was recruited).
...No...4 independent people visited him. Not all mafia. Clearly not because one got merc'd.
A medic visited Zeks (or zeks is BP, Vet). A mafia must have visited him. And two to three other unaccounted for roles.
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On August 29 2010 02:59 Radfield wrote:
So ALL mafia get seen visiting. Now, assuming we had 4 mafia in the game to start, would a watcher see 4 or 3 mafia last night given that a mafia died during the night.
Which is resolved first, mafia dying, or mafia killing?
Well time for Zeks to role claim. xD
He's either BP, or Vet.
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If you don't mind, Radfield. Sir, I would like your opinion also.
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Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned.
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On August 29 2010 06:20 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 06:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned. We know he's rolecop, I was the one to prove it. The problem is if he is town aligned. Zeks, if you are town aligned, please do not disclose Fishball's Role. Fishball could be thinking of a strategy, and it is always bad for Mafia to know more blue roles than necessary.
How did you prove it?
You picked before him. This hinges on Subversion of picking RoleCop, not PoD/BadSanta/CompVig...If one of those roles picked traitor, then he he could of picked any of those, albeit be wrong.
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On August 29 2010 06:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 06:20 LSB wrote:On August 29 2010 06:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned. We know he's rolecop, I was the one to prove it. The problem is if he is town aligned. Zeks, if you are town aligned, please do not disclose Fishball's Role. Fishball could be thinking of a strategy, and it is always bad for Mafia to know more blue roles than necessary. How did you prove it? You picked before him. This hinges on Subversion of picking RoleCop, not PoD/BadSanta/CompVig...If one of those roles picked traitor, then he he could of picked any of those, albeit be wrong.
Nevermind. I understand. You would of been on the same team, how would you two of picked the same roles....Shit...I need to think about this a little more.
I still feel Zeks is something like SK.
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On August 29 2010 06:50 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 06:45 LSB wrote:On August 29 2010 06:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 29 2010 06:20 LSB wrote:On August 29 2010 06:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Zeks, you're in a bad position. There is one way to prove you're role cop and tell us Fishball's role...That would be the only way I see you living. Which even then...It's kind of slim. As I've said, Role Cop isn't exactly the most powerful role in the world, in my mind.
Anyway, I see some problems with everything, and you can't be town aligned. We know he's rolecop, I was the one to prove it. The problem is if he is town aligned. Zeks, if you are town aligned, please do not disclose Fishball's Role. Fishball could be thinking of a strategy, and it is always bad for Mafia to know more blue roles than necessary. How did you prove it? You picked before him. This hinges on Subversion of picking RoleCop, not PoD/BadSanta/CompVig...If one of those roles picked traitor, then he he could of picked any of those, albeit be wrong. On August 29 2010 04:52 LSB wrote:
Here's what I think. It seems so Obvious, I'm facepalming myself for not noticing it.
Subversion Picked Rolecop. I am 100% certain, he is mafia, Rolecop is THE town role here.
We should have already figured that out
This is confirmed because Zeks claims that he has a role that the mafia wants dead.
But was blocked, so mafia knows that Zeks is Rolecop
Mafia tries to kill Zeks
But! Zeks is actually Serial Killer. So it doesn't work!!
Zeks CANNOT claim, because we know that a doctor couldn't have protected him.
##VOTE: Zeks Because he is Serial Killer.
Note, SK will not work for us, he is decidedly anti town Actually, while I'm going to believe you unless a doctor claims he protected Zeks, your whole "proof" relies on that Subversion picked rolecop. Given only 20 minutes to pick, its not unlikely mafia was unprepared for a replacement/was not on on that time. I wouldn't be surprised if subversion, trying to find a good mafia role and unaware of the plan(correct?), picked either CV(duh) Prince of darkness(good mafia role) or even bad santa(at the very list interesting/grants KP) But again, I'm going to vote for zeks because 1.He claimed rolecop 2.He won't explain that quote 3. A doctor hasn't said he protected him. I'll wait till probably ~7 tommorow just to give time for a doctor to claim, but until then my mind's set on voting Zeks.
...I think the mafia wants to kill zeks because he is SK, and they can only kill him by lynching. That or the mafia got no role. Although they could have scum doctor.
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Anyway....I'm not going to cast my vote for zeks, if he is SK. Mafia can't kill him and Zeks can't win regardless if he is SK. So...I dunno...Maybe he could help us out in hopes we forget?
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Although Zeks could actually be traitor...It still works just as nice.
Actually...I'm very certain....Still not casting my vote yet....I'm legitimately torn....
Controlling RoleCop that can hit, and is invincible....@_@
Sorry, I'm an optimist
On August 29 2010 09:26 bumatlarge wrote:
Look at darth trying to downplay what i did. How could I not have claimed without sealing that deal? SK will die (hopefully) because of me. And declaring people as town is FoS in my book, Ive seen and done it all too often. Hell call anyone scum, but watch what you say about clean people.
I dont really need medic protection unless we plan something, oh what kill are we missing? If I die kill darth, divine, pandain. YEAH THATS RIGHT KILL EM.
Darth, Divinek, and Chaoser. That's how I feel. And possibly Zeks/Chaoser/LSB
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HAHA <3 PANDAIN
omg...
Yes...Zeks is SK, even if he keeps spamming town. LSB can logically be the traitor. With Zeks as sk (CONFIRMABLE, We can have CompVig hit Zeks) AND, if Zeks lives, everyone that jumped on Zeks at the end of the day IS, you guessed it, MAFIA.
HAHHAHAHAHAHA
PANDAIN YOU ARE MY GOD
sorry, drunk and excited
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soft claim no pardon, regardless, it gives us a load of information. hahaahaha. i dont care if he is pardoned or not. It will be epic as shit. even if he is sk, not traitor, those that pushed hard for his lynch will be under an ass load of scrutin, if not out right lynchable. everyone elses night actions will be easy to decide
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med prot foolishness, comp vig hit zeks.
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wait....med prot ishball i meant...i forgot your role cop. this supports my fishball as mafia thing too actually...
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actually...med prot fishball.
would weak doctor still protect a red from a hit ace?
heres my idea. comp vig or sk could hit fishball and med could protect him. med will either die or hit will pass through, possibly, if he is weak. but if hes sane, he will protect. fishball could say who he smelled last night...he shoulda been posting in that persons favor today, not beiaway.
anyway, if hes mafia weak med dies, compvig/sk might kill. or just weak med dies if prot still goes. if weak med dies that night we lynch fishball.
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EPT
