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Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. This role is nullified for the Serial Killer(s) since it may be too broken if they have it. ....FUCK...Nevermind -_-...Any action? *sigh*...Okay...we need a bus drivet....-_- Anywaaaaaaaaaay....All to top 5 can die and I won't care? Except maybe Rastaban? =/ That sounds about right. But I'm all for spraying brains all over the place. Hes posted pretty town like before repicking...and suggesting he get CC...so.....I dunno how I feel about him picking Traitor. Would seem more likely LSB or Chaoser to me...They aren't usual with the activity... This will take some more time to digest, and the whole town should be discussing this. Citizen...How do you feel about Hes being the traitor? | ||
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On August 26 2010 01:45 SouthRawrea wrote: Actually if you look closely at his post: This could be a soft claim from him to the mafia as traitor. None of the actual townies would find this suspicious at all as we were trying to take roles away from the mafia anyways but the mafia would look at that and think, maybe he's softclaiming to us? They'd quite easily put any of their power roles on him to try and convert him if it's true. (They'd not bother using a KP on him obviously). True...Hes could of been trying to get hit hoping they'd try and get the role by copy cat, and get converted....Actually that is a good point...Lynch Hesmyrr sounds like a good idea... Will wait for others to elaborate before voting... | ||
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I would like some more information right now. We can either ignore hesmyrr from this point or not. Anyone got some stances on that? Radfield, you are forgetting the mafia can target the traitor with ANY action and obtain the traitor onto their team. I'm curious if we are informed if the mafia's number grows, since we know how many mafia are in the game already. Ace could you clarify that? | ||
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Yea...I was going to correct myself, but I had gotten up to get a cup of coffee...Shit moves fast round these parts, eh? On August 26 2010 02:37 zeks wrote: You are Vanilla Scum! The ability to kill 1 player per night belongs to you. One of you must PM me a kill for the night even though all of you participate in the kill. Remember you can coordinate your # picks during the draft phase. The Mafia team this round consists of: Jack, Jill, this bottle and my ecstasy pills! You win when you outnumber the town, or there is no way for them to stop you from outnumbering them. see bolded part. Unless that's some meme or some inside joke I'm assuming theres 4 scum? Game sense says four anyway. | ||
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Bad Santa gives extra KP of totaling up to 5 while PoD just adds a night cycle. We should lynch whoever was supposed to of taken Bad Santa if we are hitting the top 5, and not hitting the comp vig. Atleast if we aren't taking Hesmyrr, or Zeks out. That would be the best solution. I think Radfields idea to hit PoD is kind of...a bad choice. Ace, if PoD uses his ability night one, does it make it night two, or just double night cycles? Like, Night one (use it), Night One 2.0, then Day 2, or does Day 2 just get skipped altogether. I find this important in reference to the Comp Vig's operation. | ||
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xD... Or he makes a case against zeks, without saying he role checked him. If he starts going against someone he checked, then pops detective. If he starts saying "blah blah, this person is right, blah blah" then that person is good. Ace, Does RoleCop return role of mafia if the mafia investigated has another role, such as detective/medic/ect? | ||
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On August 26 2010 11:49 Ace wrote: 6.)What happens if a RoleCop checks someone without a role? The result they get back is VANILLA. Otherwise the RC would be almost better than the Alignment Cop in this setup which would make no sense. So if they do have a role the Role Cop...gets a role. Right...Wow... ##Vote Radfield "Alignment Cop is weak compared to Role Cop" That ends my reasoning. Wow. We just walked down a windy road to death. | ||
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-________- Also, Sorry Hes... I said the PoD should of been lynched instead of you, just because, but nobody listened. | ||
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as for roleblocker if there is one, should block a vet player. tracker should probably follow divinek. if he visits anyone at night he is mafia. 100%. if not he is confirmed. medics should cover someone below 5. if there was a copy cat he should team with rastaban. or someone who could possibly of chosen tracker. so below role 10. althiygh people may of picked it sooner. who knows. bulletbill, look at the pod....those are arguably my best ideas | ||
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On August 27 2010 13:55 ~OpZ~ wrote: so who are we having cops check? role cop should definitely hit whoever was to pick someone low on the list. more likely to hit a vanilla, and get a decent role...or check radfield even...or the last person in the draft. as for roleblocker if there is one, should block a vet player. tracker should probably follow divinek. if he visits anyone at night he is mafia. 100%. if not he is confirmed. medics should cover someone below 5. if there was a copy cat he should team with rastaban. or someone who could possibly of chosen tracker. so below role 10. althiygh people may of picked it sooner. who knows. bulletbill, look at the pod....those are arguably my best ideas ...Blues, listen to me. These are the actions most important. The tracker will do what he's supposed to do tonight, I know for a fact. Regardless, he will come back with important information. The alignment cop, I know there's one out there, should check someone who has a high likelihood of being lynched. Only role I didn't suggest doing an action. My bad. =/ | ||
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On August 27 2010 22:12 rastaban wrote: The issue I have with the alignment cop, is that is is a role with only a 33% chance of working when you get it due to the three sanities. Of course if someone already has it then yes, they definitely should be trying to learn their sanities. I would actually recommend checking SR since according to plan he is the next one to be lynched. I'm not lynching SR, just because he's retarded. Role cop is to check above him, and that should suffice. Comp vig can hit him night 2 if it's gotta be that way. | ||
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On August 27 2010 18:05 ~OpZ~ wrote: And no, that wasn't a soft blue/green claim, I followed the plan, I just know someone low on the totem pole had to of picked alignment cop. Makes sense to add as much detective power as possible. It's an important role, as much as radfield tried to diss it. -_- If role cop feels like finding traitor, check about south or check south. If rolecop feels like finding mafia? Check below the list. Honestly, this traitor shit, could just be to get mafia to waste night actions on the top of the list too. They are kind of useless roles for town up there. | ||
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On August 21 2010 01:16 Pandain wrote: Mason...indeed. I was thinking that. Or we could incorporate everyone in my secret friendship alliances into THE Secret Friendship Alliance and have each person be Mason, Pardoner, Martyr and even a Bad Santa to ensure that no SFA member will backstab each other. Pandain, I love you, and that plan was actually pretty...brilliant. Lol. Why we didn't make Bad Santa's list for him is insane. Radfield, JeeJee, Fishball, ~OpZ~, and Subversion (Darth can/should be swapped in there with any other person, I honestly just forgot he was playing) would of been a decent list. Vet's would want to off other vets, especially if they were in position to get good roles. (Subversion may not be a vet, but he was in a good position for a good role that would be worth offing. One of me, Radfield, JeeJee, Fishball is likely mafia. Radfield always dies night one, and if he lives past = mafia/vet/LUUUUUUUCKY/SK (sk also applies as lucky)) On August 21 2010 05:15 SouthRawrea wrote: It'd be extremely beneficial for town and for any players thinking of taking traitor to avoid taking it. If you join the maf, you don't add a KP but just make it harder for us to kill the entire maf team off which actually is fairly easy if confirmed people are already established and we have our investigative roles alive. If you end up picking a power role however, you're taking a possibly significant role away from the opposing team, giving your team a bigger benefit than just adding a member. (Basically if you join maf by choosing traitor, you're not really helping them. If you stick with town by picking another role, you add a potentially good role to town/take one away from the opposing team. Not to mention if mafia is shafted with having one of the last picks, they may end up getting traitor which would be completely useless to them. Another superbonus :D) Stick with town. Fight team fight! -___________________________-;;;;;; On August 21 2010 06:09 chaoser wrote: How do you know mafia's got only 4 people...it's not listed in OP how many there are... Darth is always a good lynch candidate/kill. He's...Different. Lol. So we should consider getting him to post. Also, he said mafia has 4. It had been posted so much by different people I just assumed it was four just a few pages ago, and iirc Citizen corrected me, telling me the number isn't in the OP. How did we miss this, but I wouldn't expect this mistake from Darth, and I'm leaving out the post afterwards, so here's the link. But we should definitely be suspicious of him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141431¤tpage=8#153 Darth had some HEFTY support of Radfields plan, and I don't see him around no more. Radfield even posts defending Darth's possible slip up. + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2010 07:03 Radfield wrote: meh, I was also assuming there were 4 mafia. All this shows is that Darth played PYP1. With the influx of anti-town roles, I can't imagine there are any more than 4 mafia, which means there are either 3 or 4. Could be a mistake, as I said, but notice how connected they are. On August 28 2010 01:09 SouthRawrea wrote: Well if town really wants to take a leap of faith for me, we should find the next candidate for a traitor and off me in the night. Why are you so concerned about this? Why should we off you? DO YOU WANT TO DIE? =/ Seriously, is there a village idiot role I didn't know about? OMG, that's it. SouthRawrea is village idiot!! He win's if he gets lynched/killed by town!! -___- Serious time. Radfield, who do you best feel should be tracked? Same question to anyone that feels like answering. Why would you propose checking zeks role, as opposed to someone low on the list, who is more likely to return a role of Vanilla? (Ace, is it Vanilla Town, Vanilla Mafia, or just Vanilla? Plz God tell me it's Vanilla Town/Mafia, not that I care too much anymore. Playlist should be decent I figured but so many vets not posting shit. Damn, this question is answered already, nevermind. DAMMIT FUCK WE LISTENED TO RADFIELD. I guess I can't sit out before picks now god dammit!) BrownBear, Mr. Godfather of TL Mafia Porn, plz let me know some of your thoughts as of yesterday. The lynching of Hesmyrr. Someone please explain why we didn't lynch the PoD? He was in just as boring a spot as Hesmyrr was, except he KNEW he had a role he would never get to use. Zeks had role cop, a decent role in comparison. (We need atleast one medic protect Zeks, I had forgotten to say this, but he is still less useful than tracker/bulletbill in my eyes, so I honestly don't know how I feel) Why would Zeks go traitor then? PoD would be a better position to go traitor. LSB would be a better target, and has so far escaped much scrutiny. Meaning, BrownBear, step your game up of I will seriously press you. You set around last game a little to complacently. This post was originially dedicated to LSB, but fuck. Dude offered to be day vig'd instantly. =/ He could of picked traitor tho, but I dunno. I feel I've moved a hefty amount of content into this, and I need to go, at GF's so....Yea... Radfield I'm going to come back to you, but as a note to self... + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2010 08:52 Radfield wrote: Another consideration, If jeejee is picking 1, and presumably will be drafting first, is he prepared to take CompVig. If not, I see that as extremely anti-town. If he doesn't want CV then fine, pick another number, but whoever gets to draft first HAS to take CV. Likewise, if Darth is picking second, is he prepared to take Copy Cat. Again, it's very important that we know where Copy Cat is. The reason being, some random mafia gets Copy Cat, and we lynch a vanilla townie on day 1, then on night 1 the mafia can kill the CompVig and Swipe the role. Of course the doctor comes into play, so this probably isn't that big of concern. Anyways, the real question is, are people prepared to follow a town role picking plan, or are people simply going to pick whatever they want to pick. On page ten you were talking about copy cat...I missed much of the early discussion, mainly because I refuse to play PYP til Draft/Pick phase are over. I did it last game too, so until I look again at Radfield, don't lose any sleep. I'm gonna check it out, but I dunno yet. Sorry Radfield, kinda turned into a post against you kindaish, but I'll be looking over BrownBear/you/Darth, and anyone who supported your plan instantly. Conclusion, LSB is likely town. -_______- Darth+Radfield, possible connection. Actually, just skimmed Darth before I go, he should definitely be put under a microscope. Lots of posts, but besides his post last page and him posting supporting Radfields plan, no content afterwards. No opinion one way or the other. Darth would possibly be a good BulletBill.... | ||
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Why would you propose checking zeks role, as opposed to someone low on the list, who is more likely to return a role of Vanilla? (Ace, is it Vanilla Town, Vanilla Mafia, or just Vanilla? Plz God tell me it's Vanilla Town/Mafia, not that I care too much anymore. Playlist should be decent I figured but so many vets not posting shit. Damn, this question is answered already, nevermind. DAMMIT FUCK WE LISTENED TO RADFIELD. I guess I can't sit out before picks now god dammit!) -_____- DID NOT KNOW about Vanilla being returned til I reread thread. I ignore Ace a lot. Habit, sorry. Yes, rolecop. You should be checking someone up in the clouds of the pick world. Below five, but over 14 -15. | ||
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