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On August 06 2010 10:46 Divinek wrote: you're so lucky i have no kp this game the fact you said this is suspicious to me. you individually do not have kp, but collectively as a mafia i believe you do. i am switching my vote to you unless someone really makes a huge mistake after your post here. On August 06 2010 10:55 Divinek wrote: lol i forgot he was in this game i just saw pandain first in the user list so... ill probably as in like 80% switch my vote to him unless he changes his habits consider sir pandain a place holder then more hyper-awareness of being found as mafia. I'm really feeling Divinek as a scum slot. On August 06 2010 11:02 KF91 wrote: Nope; the two people that voted on BM didn't post their reasons as to why they did yet, so I guess they're just placeholders? Haters gonna hate On August 06 2010 11:54 ~OpZ~ wrote: ....So game just starts and you idiots are accusing people of inactivity....(sorry if thats too rude for you flamewheel. Will try better later.) Anyway...Time to come up with some ideas.... How bout we all massively role claim?! No. Anyway, let's stop the spam. Just spamming does not make you active. Spamming gets you voted just as often as being inactive. Ask Chezinu and Bill. And Darth. (Last game?) Sorry for voting for you bro, but you aren't as active as you used to be. I'm about to change it to Divi-scum anyways. | ||
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I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia. | ||
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On August 06 2010 12:07 Divinek wrote: damn bm's reads are off to a good start seriously if i was mafia i wouldnt have said anything and pushed to have him killed n1 obviously this is a wifom thing to analyze now that ive actually said it but yeah glad you're being honest with that first line. second line is bullshit, and is a lie. if you were mafia, you would be doing what you're doing, because you are mafia. | ||
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On August 06 2010 12:24 bumatlarge wrote: RNG is pure evil, agreed. Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler + bulous opinion maker <3 But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head. you wouldn't be his scumbuddy trying to dissuade me would you? | ||
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that's actually going to be our town this game you heard it here first lol | ||
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Whoever the 3rd person to vote on it is is going to be lynched imo | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:11 Pandain wrote: Didn't really get defensive, just pointed out that he voted for me when he said we should lynch inactives, yet I've been one of the most active people. Just asked him what his real reason is. Not really defensive. And yes, sadly I have been less quality than normal. I'm trying to fix it this game by typing larger things and not just one liners. Though I did feel the one you quoted was justified. Still, need to improve. This is the type of post I'm aiming for. Don't feel like I should be voted just because I'm not that good yet(second game.) Getting better, but as of yet do not feel I have the expierence to make the definitive "ok guys, this is what you should do." That's why I think the very first post after Flamewheel said "gogogo" I said, "ok pros, give advice now." If you want some advice, I'd say to not take the spotlight if you're a townie. I am very bad for that sometimes, and I've been trying to fix that about my game. I don't mind doing it when I am a power role or mafia, but this just isn't my game. On August 06 2010 13:11 rastaban wrote: I placed the third vote on Divinek so I must now be mafia.. but wait I then unvoted and voted for BM, so that is he otes me he will be mafia, since they always retaliate vote. Looks like we have reached an impasse good sir, a catch 22 not really, because I don't vote for idiots, or I'd be voting for myself. On August 06 2010 13:15 Divinek wrote: i got quite the interesting vibe thus far as well. also good plan bm now that everyone knows it you can enact your super secret plan B right! If you were doing what you said you were doing, then obviously telling everyone that's what you were doing makes it a lie doesnt it? (since you openly told people before the entire point of the plan happened, you clearly didnt intend to do what you were saying you were) Or it makes you really stupid. lynch all liars as they say right Here you go, scum trying to push policy. I don't know if your play is just generally off-putting or if you are in FACT scummy, but if you keep making posts like this there is no way in hell I'm taking my vote off of you. On August 06 2010 15:00 VayeshMoru wrote: I have just spent time reading some of the game Bill Murray just ran. I seem to be be at a crossroads now. The town last game early on was against random bandwagons starting. But I see this what would be defined as a mistake I suppose happening again. Is this meant to draw information? Although this early on I don't see how it would give you much to go on. If I understand how this game should be done, should we not be concentrating on a more logical method for our lynching? I think it would be at least prudent if we discussed who was getting votes and why. As of now I see Divinek and Bill Murray tied at 3 votes. After looking at this, then comparing to what has been said, why are there no reasons posted? Is this method not too chaotic? What would you suggest, then? | ||
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My suggestion is that we coordinate better if we know what units we have on the field. The mafia will be forced to lie, and if we coordinate early enough there is no way we can lose all of our good pieces. Every game where I've seen people nameclaim or roleclaim I've seen the town win as far as I can remember. Do you guys want to win? I am very competitive. I know I like to. I will risk my life for you guys. Feel free to claim to me. If everyone would just trust me this one time, we could have an epic game. | ||
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if you all lynch me the town is being wasteful Pyrrhuloxia, there is no fucking way you know at least "4 of my teammates", unless you are mafia, and have deducted a list of town, but then you could still have a ninja mixed in and might be wrong even then. I do not see why you are throwing walls of text and tunneling on me at all. Could it be because you are trying to push a policy lynch and stifle any real discussion? I ended the RVS so we could actually discuss what we are going to do as a town. Why would you want to end the stage of the game where the town throws ideas out there? I'm sorry you disagree with my idea. Usually the town does, but that doesn't mean that we wouldn't win if we used it. After having just modded the last game, I realized something: The people the mafia try to kill are the ones that are trying to organize things (Subversion, zeks, laxercannon, etc), not the ones who are trying to policy lynch or are overly emotional (DTA, you, BrownBear, even me in past games) You know why the mafia won't try to kill me this game? Because I am like Stonewall Jackson, shot by my own troops. When I flip blue you all will really feel like idiots. | ||
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On August 06 2010 19:19 youngminii wrote: Uh oh, someone made a huge blunder. Pyrr is very likely a ninja. he sent me this PM too: ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Ninjas have two lives. Unless you are the third ninja. But you aren't. Maybe he is in your employ. Doesn't matter, though. Your only hope (maybe) is to lynch me today. Good luck with that. When he sent me that, I assumed he might be a ninja. I didn't know they had two lives. | ||
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On August 06 2010 22:18 Amber[LighT] wrote: Lol best post of the last 5 pages. Sorry BM I think a mass roleclaim is a terrible idea. I never like the idea in any setup for mafia since it really can mess up the flow of the game. Not to mention people (especially townies) have this odd obsession with lying. Let's review your last game that you hosted.... people were lying left and right about their roles. It definitely hurt the town as we had to focus on the liars and much of the attention was drawn off of suspicious players, like BC who was actually mafia. I'm a bigger advocate of town circles and mob mentality. It's not that I think this system works better in all instances, but it keeps the mafia on their toes for much of the game. If we all roleclaim honestly then they have a perfect list of all of the roles in the game. I'm not going to vote for you, yet. However I will reconsider if the day turns out a little differently. that's not what i was trying to do here, though, amber. i was trying to create confusion and get information out of the people who would be against roleclaiming (mafia and ninjas). Do you honestly believe I expected a single person to actually roleclaim to me? I did, but it was through a PM, not in the thread. Why would I ever do that in the thread? Because my role is the only role i know. I'm willing to back off of this, because it was a ploy, and now i'm going to help the town in more traditional ways. Also, mad props to chezinu for that video On August 06 2010 22:28 LSB wrote: A bit of a late reply, but some of us sleep My Big Ninja Post Okay, I skimmed through XXII In XXII there were 4 assassins The first assassin got killed on the first day due to inactivity The 2nd and Third assassins got killed by other assassins on night 2. So from older games, the assassin's biggest danger are other assassins I agree with your Mafia Analysis, but not your Town analysis. The Ninja could get Medic protection, and DT help. Just remember, the Ninja obviously won't just say 'hullo' to a random townie. The Ninja would try to find a DT/Medic As for your Ninja caught by DT analysis, you misunderstood what I was trying to say. The Ninja caught by DT plan isn't one about working together, it's about the DT keeping the Ninja on a short least Here's how it would work out 1) DT identifies Ninja 2) DT contacts Ninja through a mouth, threatens Ninja. Says "You better work with me or I'm exposing you the day after you don't" Ninja could respond by 1) Killing the Mouth, but then he would get killed himself loosing the game 2) Feeding the DT incorrect information. But the DT could just ask for Night Kills 3) Following the DT and hope the other ninjas would die soon They could play normally, however, it's more of a game of how much risk is the ninja willing to take. A little risk could make the Ninja invincible with another pair of eyes. As for ruining the game. Here's my diagram + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc205/laststandb/Ninja.gif) NOTES: Assume that Pyrr is a Ninja, and there is only 3 in the town. Pyrr will be killed night one, so there will be only 2 Ninjas. I doubt any ninja would actually kill him. They would investigate him first. I also don't see why people are even worrying about the ninjas that much at this point. The only other game I've played with them, when I was mafia, the only people who were really saying anything about them in the thread were the mafia themselves. I feel like we should look at the people who are doing this. The reason that mafia do this is because it gives them a truthful statement about wanting to "out a scummy slot", because ninjas are in fact non-town, and by trying to out them, the mafia look pro-town. If you are town, then, and are discussing this, stop. Start trying to find reds. Pyrrhuloxia imo wouldn't have been playing the way he was if he was red, which is why I haven't voted for him. DTA, though, maybe. I might change my vote to him. On August 06 2010 22:29 LSB wrote: And I am against Roleclaim. Their's no way we can keep track of who would lie. And I would assume that Blue Roles would lie to. Cause a role claim is a great way to give a 'who to hit' list to the mafia. So I would assume the final count of the role-claim would be 30 townies, not very helpful I agree with lying if you're a certain blue. If you're the veteran, you should say you're a role you'd want to be hit in the night. This normally would be a great strategy, but less so in this game. I dislike how in the past few games I've played in multiple roles have multiple night lives. This really inhibits the plan that I would use as a veteran, so I don't know what to do. What we should do going forward is try to get our watcher and stalker to coordinate, which is why I wanted people to roleclaim to me in the first place. On August 06 2010 23:14 XeliN wrote: For the record in my brief experience of playing mafia games I know mafia HATE suggestions of mass role claiming, I am far more suspicious of Pyrr's extreme vehemence against the idea than I am of Bills suggestion. Not entirely sure it would work, in truth I havent actually read the post Bill made yet, but just wanted to say Mafia typically hate the idea of town mass roleclaiming, it forces them into a difficult position where they have to be very careful about what they post//claim. Although the fact this is a closed setup (role amounts arn't revealed) makes a mass claim strategy flawed from the outset. Also be dubious of people attempting to cast extreme suspicion on others this early in the game, A good example of such would be: "I think BM is very likely to live for a couple of days, but if things start going downhill he should be somewhere on the top of our hitlists" If more people thought like this, my plan would have been less of a ploy, and an actual strategy. If anything, I was just hoping to know who the tracker was, but I didn't even expect that. On August 06 2010 23:39 KF91 wrote: I believe that this is one of the best ways to start off Day 1; mostly because like it was mentioned before, people do make mistakes and they shouldn't be lynched right away because of a single mistake they made on Day 1. Plus it promotes involvement, but I'm sure everyone's heard this countless times already. From what I know of BM, this is classic BM to me (Although the last game I played with him was XXII, so things could have changed.). He promotes some weird plan and the town attacks him. He ends up being Godfather. But from what I can remember, he also pushes plans like these when he's a townie as well. From BM's point of view, this is just a trap for the mafia, because although it would be harder for the town to sift through all the liars in a mass-role claim, it would be harder for the mafia to organize who would claim as what. Um, hi? If you have time, feel free to type more, since an "activity-check" post won't save you from getting lynched forever. From what I see, bad plan. So much risk for the town while the mafia has to give a small effort to make sure that the town is screwed over. - If mafia roleclaims as a blue, this plan won't work period. - If a real blue does roleclaim, but the bus driver buses the wrong person, we could hit another blue (Perhaps one of out DTs or medics) - The mafia has power-roles that could turn this plan onto the town and the town could be lynching townies on Day 2/3 depending on if this plan is actually implemented. IMO, single roleclaims=bad at any point of the game. Or actually, any type of roleclaims; while it may prove useful to the town, it will always help mafia in killing blues. I disagree since we have a watcher and stalker/tracker. We can use these roles to confirm the tracker with a single roleclaim. On August 07 2010 07:15 DarthThienAn wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2010 22:28 LSB wrote: A bit of a late reply, but some of us sleep My Big Ninja Post Okay, I skimmed through XXII In XXII there were 4 assassins The first assassin got killed on the first day due to inactivity The 2nd and Third assassins got killed by other assassins on night 2. So from older games, the assassin's biggest danger are other assassins I agree with your Mafia Analysis, but not your Town analysis. The Ninja could get Medic protection, and DT help. Just remember, the Ninja obviously won't just say 'hullo' to a random townie. The Ninja would try to find a DT/Medic As for your Ninja caught by DT analysis, you misunderstood what I was trying to say. The Ninja caught by DT plan isn't one about working together, it's about the DT keeping the Ninja on a short least Here's how it would work out 1) DT identifies Ninja 2) DT contacts Ninja through a mouth, threatens Ninja. Says "You better work with me or I'm exposing you the day after you don't" Ninja could respond by 1) Killing the Mouth, but then he would get killed himself loosing the game 2) Feeding the DT incorrect information. But the DT could just ask for Night Kills 3) Following the DT and hope the other ninjas would die soon They could play normally, however, it's more of a game of how much risk is the ninja willing to take. A little risk could make the Ninja invincible with another pair of eyes. As for ruining the game. Here's my diagram + Show Spoiler + NOTES: Assume that Pyrr is a Ninja, and there is only 3 in the town. Pyrr will be killed night one, so there will be only 2 Ninjas. With the ninja allying with town thing, basically, the medic would be trading their services for the ninja's services..but the ninja could just lie and get protection. So it's not in the interest of the medic to do that. The DT can't control the ninja... he has no power. He has no way of guaranteeing that he'll live to out the ninja. The ninja can hit him whenever he feels like it. The only way is to PM someone else, and even then, you're sacrificing a DT for a ninja? No. Best to leave the ninjas alone if you're a DT. Hmm. I guess it makes more sense with a mouth. You should have mentioned that before -_-. + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2010 23:39 KF91 wrote: I believe that this is one of the best ways to start off Day 1; mostly because like it was mentioned before, people do make mistakes and they shouldn't be lynched right away because of a single mistake they made on Day 1. Plus it promotes involvement, but I'm sure everyone's heard this countless times already. From what I know of BM, this is classic BM to me (Although the last game I played with him was XXII, so things could have changed.). He promotes some weird plan and the town attacks him. He ends up being Godfather. But from what I can remember, he also pushes plans like these when he's a townie as well. From BM's point of view, this is just a trap for the mafia, because although it would be harder for the town to sift through all the liars in a mass-role claim, it would be harder for the mafia to organize who would claim as what. Um, hi? If you have time, feel free to type more, since an "activity-check" post won't save you from getting lynched forever. From what I see, bad plan. So much risk for the town while the mafia has to give a small effort to make sure that the town is screwed over. - If mafia roleclaims as a blue, this plan won't work period. - If a real blue does roleclaim, but the bus driver buses the wrong person, we could hit another blue (Perhaps one of out DTs or medics) - The mafia has power-roles that could turn this plan onto the town and the town could be lynching townies on Day 2/3 depending on if this plan is actually implemented. IMO, single roleclaims=bad at any point of the game. Or actually, any type of roleclaims; while it may prove useful to the town, it will always help mafia in killing blues. And from what I know about BM, he has the potential to play like an idiot both when he is mafia and townie. So I don’t judge based on playstyle, I judge based on what has happened in THIS game. And his plan is retarded, hence my voting for him. He still hasn’t offered any reasoning as to why this would ever be a good plan. And if it’s a trap, then it’s not a very good one, as no one is going to agree with it, and he’s not even trying to pretend like he agrees with it. Lol, is it my fault that I don’t want the town to screw itself over? I have no guarantees about anyone’s intelligence here. Example: Bill Murray. fuck you. I have a 135 IQ and got a 29 on my ACT. Anyways, my plan is this: Have the tracker claim in the thread, to me, or to someone we as a collective agree upon. Have him call his shot. Afterwards, the watcher will watch the tracker and see who he visited. Bam. We have a confirmed slot. | ||
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On August 07 2010 06:43 Incognito wrote: In this case, your calculations were wrong, primarily based on the assumptions of what other people would/should do. Also, there are different degrees to calculated risk. Plans like the one you came up with are huge and can swing the game in either direction. When the range of results is that huge, there will be people who will oppose you. All of this is applicable to what I'm trying to do here Benefits of my plan: a confirmed townie Detriments of my plan: having our tracker potentially killed, or us being confused if he is bus driven Reasons the benefits outweigh the risks: PMs If we can organize a town circle through the tracker (we're going to need our blues to focus on him via medic protection and watching), we can win this game very easily as a town. | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: BM: "that's not what i was trying to do here, though, amber. i was trying to create confusion and get information out of the people who would be against roleclaiming (mafia and ninjas)." I am honestly not mafia. I am pro-town, bro. BM: "Do you honestly believe I expected a single person to actually roleclaim to me?" Excuse me, but you are assuming that asking for them in the thread and expecting to get them out of the thread are the same thing. They're not. Sorry. If I ever really wanted a claim, I would make it public, so we could lynch someone who is lying. BM: " I did, but it was through a PM, not in the thread. Why would I ever do that in the thread?" Exactly, so I sort of give myself away that I would want it public if anything. If everyone honestly roleclaimed to me as a blue, though, we would win the game. Do I expect people to believe me? No. I would find them idiots for doing that. I am not mafia, so I don't really care, but I was just going over possibilities and trying to get a reaction out of people by posting some sort of content on a mediocre day 1. BM: "I'm willing to back off of this, because it was a ploy, and now i'm going to help the town in more traditional ways." All for the information. It generates discussion. I actually like confirming a townie, so I disagree with you, but the fact that I'm exploring possibilities instead of being negative and a policy driven nazi that stifles discussion and creativity... BM: "Anyways, my plan is this: Have the tracker claim in the thread, to me, or to someone we as a collective agree upon. Have him call his shot. Afterwards, the watcher will watch the tracker and see who he visited. Bam. We have a confirmed slot." There won't be multiple trackers, I disagree. There is no inconsistency depending on my role. Good for you, man, you might be smarter than me. I'm glad your IQ is that high. Since it is that high, are you in MENSA? If you are not, why not? That is above a 140, which should enable you to be in that. | ||
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On August 07 2010 09:05 BrownBear wrote: lajarse could possibly be scum, but let's get everyone talking before we make a concrete decision. We still need to hear from Roffles and a couple others. This post is scummy as fuck. I am keeping it separate from my other posts to make it be read again | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Everyone can claim to watcher and tracker if the plan goes well regardless of whether or not BM is involved. Choosing someone high-profile like BM just makes it more likely that it will get fucked with. If BM is GF, Your plan is to kill off everyone that claims vet, after forcing all vets to claim? Whether BM is GF or real vet that plan sucks. I'll vote double lynch tomorrow if BM flips red. Otherwise I don't know who to go after and I don't think we will tomorrow. Day 2 double lynch is usually bad for town - I don't think this game is different. If I knew BM would be lynched today I'd vote double lynch but this is still up in the air. how the fuck am i not involved it was my idea in the first place to utilize these 2 roles which is totally pro town but ok you're not a good lynch keep convincing everyone of that, pyrrhuloxia | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:47 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Yeah, I can guarantee you 99.99% he's red and so I'd rather just see him go today *shrug*. Can't be too lynch-inducing when he's already out of the noose thanks to SouthRawrea's change (not necessarily fosing SR btw). im not fucking red, stfu | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:13 rastaban wrote: Hmm it almost might would work... What the watcher though doesn't know who is who... the mafia can send their roleblocker or framer that night and now they are listed as verified. at first I thought mafia could hit him but the watcher would get the name of one of the mafia so it wouldn't be beneficial. Hmm I don't straight up disagree it might be an option but needs thought out a little more... Anyone else have any thoughts on this? lol i like this idea, but i don't know if it will work. On August 07 2010 08:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: KT 4-0 4-1 4-2 4-3 3-4 2-4 1-4 0-4 My unbiased and fun-inducing plan for determining THIS GUY: Roffles (4-2 Either Team) Hesmyrr (KT 4-3 SKT1) (KT 4-1 SKT1) Artanis[xp] (KT 3-4 SKT1) (KT 1-4 SKT1) They posted at least a bit so less likey ones here: Laaan (KT 4-0 SKT1) Love1Another (KT 0-4 SKT1) (If love1another gets lynched, put this on Laaan) I guess it's not too guaranteed they will die for being THIS GUY since mafia can just send roleblocker or framer so we don't need to pick from inactives but I think this will work anyway. by saying this guy and not that guy, are you implying you're kicking it as his place? On August 07 2010 08:41 Pandain wrote: Some new things I've thought about since the power went out for like 5 minutes: 1.If we do get this circle going, shoudl the tracker/watcher claim publically? Then we could get people to even possibly roleclaim to them. And get medics protecting them and the such. The only problem I see with this is if they then get shot or the such, but with medics idk. Or if the mafia false claims, but then both the watcher and tracker can go together and say "No, we both agree we're blue." The mafia could risk 2 red, but I would view that as a reasonable trade and even a dt check or so could straighten things out. 2. Don't really see the need to pick a specific person, just anyone imo. But yeah, let's do it for the Proleague finals. > I'm all for this too. SKT hwaiting? Where's my SKiTten flamewheel? REALLY liking the discussion between Foolishness and Pyrrhuloxia at the end of page 23 and the beginning of page 24. One of them is mafia, I guarantee it. I'd go all in on that. On August 07 2010 09:28 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well you will probably kill me tonight, so I will post all my info anyway, mafia number 2. You are my favorite player in all of TL Mafia, at least when you are town-aligned, so I am disappointed to see your red play be so obvious. You've now chainsaw defended Bill Murray against both Divinek and myself. Now, if Bill Murray flips blue, I will certainly not run roughshod after you and the rest of his sketchy defenders and defendees. But if he flips red, which seems EXTREMELY likely to me at this point, your ass is grass and killing me won't save you. This is an old as play, and it only works when Foolishness is town-aligned, which he is not. He or you are red. I'm not sure which. I'm staying out of your little sissy argument, Pyrrhuloxia. I'll watch you guys fight, sorry, don't try to bring me into this. On August 07 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote: I adapted mine from BM's plan where he said both watcher and tracker can RC to him. Than I said what if they just both track an anonymous person. Don't see what it would mean anyway :/ I wanted the tracker to claim in thread, honestly, regardless of what I said. He could call his shot, and watch who he said he was going to watch. Vigilantes and Ninjas wouldn't want to be outed day one. He could then get medic protected, and the watcher could watch him. On August 07 2010 13:18 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Would be nice if BM could tell us what he is or comment on the plan. I can tell you what i'm not! --- Red. More than you can say. On August 07 2010 13:20 Divinek wrote: Heyy Pyrr! Pandain! since you're among the two dudes actually reading the thread whaddya think? it's an UPDATE on my larjarse + Show Spoiler + hey lets look at larjarse's latest posts! On August 07 2010 01:54 larjarse wrote: TBH rastaban is also looking quite suspicious. He is trying to do so much planning as a townie. I WANT THE MAN DEAD retarded spam On August 07 2010 02:11 larjarse wrote: Valid point, rastaban. I am just G checking you to get some text.. As you can see, I haven't change my vote. retarded spam On August 07 2010 01:50 larjarse wrote: LOLing that noone said anything about this. And once he proclaimed that he is a townie, he was voted by rastaban and chaoser. Suspiciousssoo blah blah blah it's been said before On August 06 2010 15:04 larjarse wrote: Can you stop talking about previous games? It kind of ruins the fun. spammmmm On August 06 2010 14:57 larjarse wrote: I would say BillMurray's concern about not being randomly voted to be killed justifies that he probably isn't a Townie. what the fuck does this even mean? lol it loosk like a reason without a reason On August 06 2010 14:44 larjarse wrote: BTW this leaves BillMurray and divinek tied at 3 votes each. blah blah we can all read dude ok you're getting my vote until you actually fucking post some content On August 07 2010 12:00 larjarse wrote: Divinek saying I spam spam spam on pg 23: This is my first game. You also excluded my posts that had content. So vote me if you please and calm down your e rage, bro. I voted BM becauese I instinctively feel like he's up to no good. If he's actually good, then oh well, it was a 1/6 chance anyways and it's only the first day. Many can sit here and theroize why people posted what and everthing, but you probably aren't going to know who anyone is today. Pyrrhuloxia United States. August 07 2010 10:12. I think we should be suspicious of people who defend others so early.. I agree! Divinek again targeting me on pg 25: speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far 1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!! And the roleblocker/framer can change the entire story. Divinek seems sure that BM is going to be watched tonight and is posting his expected results to further defend BM and thus fuck over the town if he is actually scum. So lets lynch him, and see what happens. Reading more bickering yadda yadda.. Okay lets just lynch BM and see what happens. Okey? Ok. Then maybe DivineK. since he posted a big post ill summarize my feelings of what he said here 1)he said i neglected his content posts, i quoted ALL of his posts (well okay not all i skipped two at the start that were one liners of stupid spam that everyone was doing at the time since the game JUST started so i figured they just fit in so they didnt count, but i assure you they are spam!), so he's lying LoL lets get to that later though 2) he says something we have already discussed at lenght long after that post was made, so his post is pointless rehashing of what we've covered 3) He really wants to lynch bm just to see what happens? Thanks for not helping town! Not, you look reaaaaaaaaaaaaaal bad buddy i dare someone to say he's been useful to town in anyway so far, can someone give me a reason not to vote for him? other people should read it too but i just wanted their attention extra special The attention seeking Divinek does in this post comes across as very pro-town to me. 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i can't believe noone had even discussed this. everyone was wanting to waste our vig or trade a busdriver for a red or a ninja and that is just plain stupid | ||
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if anything, your plan is like my plan, except it is worse because it risks a lot of blues potentially, whereas mine risks one. respond to why we should lay all our cards out on the table when there are roleblockers, framers, and ninjas lurking out there, and convince me, and i'll back off. i want this whole planning stage to end, really, so we can start scumhunting | ||
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On August 07 2010 09:16 Foolishness wrote: I for god hope Pyrry is going to post his "list" of the 6 mafia (or 4 or 5 or whatever number you're sure on). And to let you know I have a bunch of posts from mafia of previous games (not necessarily you) who all say something like "I got this mafia list figured out" or "I think I know who's mafia but I'm not going to say unless I really have to". It's pretty common to see mafia members do this. I look really forward to hearing your response when I post good information about how you're mafia. I also look forward to you getting people to spam away my good post when I do post it (assuming you don't post your list, which, let's face it, you know you won't). If you're pro-town, you'll post your list and give your reasons. There's no reason to wait. The more information in the open the better we are. I, for one, take this post as mafia attempting to buddy up with a townie (me). He knows I'm not mafia, he knows you guys think I am mafia, and if I flip he'll be like "Oh, see, I knew he was green, I defended him, I'm not mafia you guys!" When in fact he's trying to pull the wool over your eyes and get you to try to kill Pyrrhuloxia after you guys mislynch me (which you won't, because we'll lynch someone scummy like Foolishness instead) | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:27 Pandain wrote: My plan risks alot of blues? At most it risks 1. Just one 1. Maybe you're reffering to LSB's plan? As I said, my plan has the same outcome as your plan but my plan reveals whether your scum or not. I'm not mafia, and the DT should be trying to find mafia, so I disagree with you | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: YOUR PLAN WAS EVERYONE CLAIM TO YOU THAT WAS YOUR PLAN PANDAIN CAME UP WITH HIS OWN PLAN ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO REWRITE THIS WHOLE PLAN AT THE LAST HOUR IN A WAY THAT JUST HAPPENS TO TAKE AWAY THE RISK OF YOU GETTING FOUND OUT? *faints from vocal cord spasms* sorry you must not be able to read the watcher and tracker idea was mine, pandain, care to confirm this? | ||
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[QUOTE]On August 07 2010 06:43 Incognito wrote: [QUOTE]On August 06 2010 22:29 citi.zen wrote: [QUOTE]On August 06 2010 22:14 zeks wrote: As much as this game is about analyzing and question everything Its also about trust - laying out possibilities and probabilities. Townies ain't going to be able to win without communication and teamwork. Not everyones going to be a DT and have rolechecks to 100% confirm someone - for those that aren't DT you have to draw the line on who's reliable and who's not. I think eventually everyone should be reaching out to someone during the duration of the game.[/QUOTE] Right. Not even "trust", it's "calculated risk". This is what everyone does in every single mafia game, Incognito included.[/QUOTE] In this case, your calculations were wrong, primarily based on the assumptions of what other people would/should do. Also, there are different degrees to calculated risk. Plans like the one you came up with are huge and can swing the game in either direction. When the range of results is that huge, there will be people who will oppose you.[/QUOTE] All of this is applicable to what I'm trying to do here Benefits of my plan: a confirmed townie Detriments of my plan: having our tracker potentially killed, or us being confused if he is bus driven [QUOTE]On August 07 2010 08:05 Pandain wrote: How about we in the thread just say "okay, now all you people visit THIS GUY's" house. the people don't even have to claim. Than the watcher can meet up with the tracker and we have a town circle already. With no suicide bomber, we have no risk either. OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good?????? I know, I'm scared too O.o Comments? To clarify, we in the thread just decide for the watcher and tracker to visit ???. The watcher and Tracker DOES NOT CLAIM TO ANYONE. The watcher will then be like "hey, i saw you visited this guy." and pm him. Then we already have two blues in a town circle. Yay for townnnnnnnnnn IS this a good idea? Oh my goodness I'm so excited. [/QUOTE] | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:57 youngminii wrote: Anyone get the feeling these guys are scum and are arguing with each other to distract town from any real progress? Just sayin, 'cause when I opened this thread I felt like I had stepped into a clusterfuck of a warzone. your hesitance makes you feel like mafia, youngminii. i'm going to take note of this, so minor fos, but not a vote. | ||
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you are letting a roleblocker ruin a circle potentially the way i am doing it limits it to 1 person who needs to be pmed, the way you all have modified it makes it to where multiple people have to do multiple things. you all are also indicating to him where to go, which doesn't confirm shit. it needs to be called BEFORE and BY the person. We can't say "Go to house A" or we won't know who the fucking tracker is in the first place. Your "idea" which suspiciously came RIGHT after mine is like the mafia-influenced variant of my idea. It enables multiple people to know where to go. What I want the tracker to do is to roleclaim and to call his shot. Mafia won't do this unless they want to trade a roleblocker or framer for a tracker, which they won't want to. I'd take that trade. I really don't believe a ninja would want to get mixed up in that shit, either. | ||
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let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand: watcher watches player a tracker tracks player a framer frames player a roleblocker blocks player a watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who This is my plan: watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a tracker visits player a = we trust him tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:13 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: We made a plan to confirm the watcher. If the tracker calls it in the thread, the mafia can role block him. It's sorta like your idea is like your mafia-influenced idea for everyone to claim to you, except slightly less suspicious. ok, i honestly didn't think of this when i proposed it, but i did just a second ago. must have been ESP when i typed "we discuss lynching him". I honestly feel you are town, and you are behaving exactly like everyone else I've ever played with does when I am town. I know you're a power role by the way you're acting. You are likely a veteran, or a genius medic acting like a veteran would. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:16 Pandain wrote: ahaha, if that happens, that's the best thing ever. We get BOTH of the special roles for mafia. The watcher will know everyone, and basically we can medic protect the watcher and then lynch the other 3. Sure, we might lose a tracker but we'll get a framer and a roleblocker. Better evidence please. it's not that easy, bro. if it's like 7 people that visit me tonight, how does he know who is who? he just knows who visited, not what roles they are. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:17 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Exactly. List of 3 with 2 mafia on it? We don't want that? you act like we'll KNOW they're mafia. We won't. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Blues didn't ignore the plan last game. They all claimed. We made fake claims. Town sorted it out poorly. TOWN SORTED IT OUT POORLY? SO LETS DO PANDAINS PLAN OF AN 8 PERSON CLUSTERFUCK AT MY PLACE GREAT IDEA WE'D SORT THAT OUT THEN? | ||
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On August 07 2010 20:16 youngminii wrote: I don't like the plan. What BM, are you gonna label me as red? So if anyone doesn't agree with your play, you label them as red. That's fucking ridiculous. Do you really want to see how a Day 1 plan turns out? It doesn't turn out well. Just because you think you've come up with some god awesome plan that'll save everyone doesn't mean it will. And you don't go FoSing everyone that doesn't want to use it. Let me tell you now, I'm good at finding out whether people are scum or not, remember Godfather mafia? Yeah I destroyed that game. Now hopefully I'll be able to weed out scum again but you going on about this god damn plan for 20 fucking pages doesn't help when the only fucking posts I can see are by you. you were a detective, and if you check the actions list, my actions were much better | ||
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On August 07 2010 20:39 youngminii wrote: ^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what? i understand that mafia is an emotional game, and you're more than welcome to attack me as a person/player slot, but would you mind refraining from dropping the G. D.s? thanks. | ||
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On August 08 2010 12:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: shall we lynch foolishness together tomorrow? i doubt all 3 of us will be alive (if foolishness is town with us), honestly | ||
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On August 08 2010 16:34 Hesmyrr wrote: Better off posting one meaningful post every day rather than cluttering the thread with simple posts. touche | ||
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On August 09 2010 00:42 Chezinu wrote: Well, I can't seem to locate the signal at the moment... I really need some rest, I guess I'll try again once I get some sleep. Maybe with my fresh mind I can get the work done. ***Falls a sleep and starts dreaming*** + Show Spoiler + You find yourself on someone's ship.. it seems kind of odd... you feel a bit dazy, yet your totally relaxed. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img576/1095/artroom.jpg) The man speaks + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img708/9285/artroomwelcomecopy.jpg) Right after the man opens his mouth, something in you starts to manifest you.. You start seeing things differently.. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img696/5125/artroomorly.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img230/792/artroomyarly.jpg) + Show Spoiler + You laugh... You laugh madly out of control and before you know it... thoughts and conclusions start entering your head.. + Show Spoiler + Why would someone be so arrogant to post an enormous painting of himself in his Art room. What? Who has an "art room"? Why isn't he like everyone else and just go to a public art gallery? Who even goes to art galleries? Wait.. why does he want me too look at his paintings? Why is his other hand behind his back? He has a weapon! He is trying to distract me! He wants me dead! I must stop him first! You use the brown flag. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img230/7379/artroomuseflag.jpg) You take badge + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img571/3854/mightymitebadge.jpg) You also take the guy's weapon. But you decided not to look at it closely. Instead you decide to admire some paintings. Then... You take space Painting + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img411/8658/xxxpicute.jpg) You take the fireball, lighting painting + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img826/1147/flamewheelshootinglight.jpg) You look around the room + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img72/6706/artroomlooted.jpg) Before you leave, something has to be done... You just feel it... You go with your instincts + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://a.imageshack.us/img217/5538/artroomlooted2.jpg) You leave the room + Show Spoiler + Everything just fades away, like it was a dream.. what's the significance in taking the little lines out from under the painting that wasn't taken? | ||
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@ LSB: also, assume we only have 1 watcher, what if they die? what if they are inactive, and haven't see the plan? what is the plan's take on the watcher claiming? | ||
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On August 09 2010 11:39 BrownBear wrote: Ok, so in addition to all of the crap currently going on, I was roleblocked last night. what were you roleblocked from doing? flavor of it? On August 09 2010 11:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: See, I'm trying to find the truth is all. So I have to be open to various possibilities. And if I think it is appropriate to highlight the 3 most likely things and rank them in order likelihood, I will do that instead of tunneling. Have I zeroed in on BM? Yes. I maintain he should be lynched first, and all my other conclusions span from there. I feel this is a better town strategy than going after people randomly, and trying to scumhunt as if there is only one mafia out there at a time. I feel that I lessen the risk of town messing up by remaining focused on how I came about my list and following that logical progression with lynches. And it is also interesting that 2 of my 4 suspects have claimed to be targets of mafia (or other) violence in the night. We will have more information coming in so I am open to that. you definitely have been wrongly tunneling me, but it's cool. I'm guilty of that, so I'm not hypocritical about it. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:24 Hesmyrr wrote: Ah well, unless some order gets introduced I see the plan failing more and more. To my knowledge this is all the events that transpired: * Foolishness was hit. * BrownBear was role blocked. I am not sure I can make statements about other's post since they are kind of ambiguous for moment. Hopefully you guys can start a PM circle going, but otherwise unless new events occur it seems like we would default to BM lynch for today (This IS consistent to my position if you cared to read my explanation btw, Chez). um, no, sorry, but I have valuable information for the town if that is even under consideration | ||
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On August 09 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote: Oh okay EXCUSE ME for trying to spam less, I'll be sure to go back to my last game style and spam the crap out of this thread. I've been busy with uni, thank you very much. And what have you contributed besides accusing me? Fake claiming doesn't count. no need to get defensive and angry, bro. there were two kills last night, on townies. LSB is obvious, as he was coordinating a pretty decent plan. We shouldn't dwell on the past, either, we should decide who is a good lynch today and what our power roles are going to be doing tonight. | ||
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On August 09 2010 14:06 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Okay, here's the most likely scenario: Mafia double stacked LSB. Foolishness is Godfather posing as veteran. 99.9% sure What will it take for you to trust I'm not mafia? | ||
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On August 09 2010 14:11 Foolishness wrote: youngminii: already been said. I plan on doing an indepth analysis tomorrow (I really need to go sleep shortly >.<) Infundibulum: He's less active than his normal style. His current posting reminds me of Incognito's 2 mafia family game (he was mafia). He hasn't contributed anything. Chezinu: Fits the bill with youngminii (notice how youngminii is protective of Chezinu during day 1). Also I don't think you're mafia, Pyrry's not mafia, I'm not mafia, which leaves Chezinu as top candidate for balancing purposes. Infundibulum also fits for balancing since he's one of the most experienced players in this game as well. Weeding through the inactives/lurkers is a tiring and troublesome process. This gives me townie cred with you I wish people would be more open with their roles, though. I'll be back in an hour or so. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:40 Misder wrote: I think that Foolishness is innocent. We have been sending PMs to each other, and I have been trying to help him get information about some people, which I can't say who. If Foolishness was mafia, he would be helping to kill his own mafia members. I also want to make a public apology to Foolishness for not doing what he told me on time. I have been stuck in class the entire day, and cannot post or pm during that time. I'm actually sneaking out to right this. I really have to go. Also, when I read that LSB is suspicious of me being mafia, I cannot click the link; it makes a 404 error. If anyone can point me to that post, I would be happy to answer why I posted the way I did. sorry for voting you. i thought you had been inactive. i'm going to vote for an inactive lurker who i expect more from, and i thought you were it, but evidently not. again, my apologies | ||
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On August 08 2010 03:48 larjarse wrote: I am AIM if anyone wants to chat: DaWg2631 going to vote this guy until he contributes more or convinces me he's the village idiot | ||
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On August 10 2010 07:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Yeah, okay. I don't think he's GF. Carry on. We might have no DTs, though, with ninjas running around. yeah and the fairy god mother might come down and give you a c note use your head | ||
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that is why i am voting for youngminii, and i hope he flips mafia. i like you, YM, and i hate to vote for you, but you might be mafia, and that is my objective in this game. no hard feelings, bro. I would also like to point out that I could be voting chezinu, who is likely a veteran fake-claiming tracker (sorry, i know it's sort of unethical to post my opinion about this, but i'm using this to validate my point), or artanis[xp] who have more votes on them than YM. YoungMinii is really just scummier than them in my eyes. Chezinu is possibly blue, and artanis is so lurky that i have a neutral read on him. I'll leave it to older players like Amber, ~OpZ~, or Foolishness to weed out the inactives | ||
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On August 10 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote: i just voted for youngminii because i feel like we get a lot of information out of his lynch. foolishness pushed for him, so we can take that into consideration, and youngminii and chezinu had interaction early on in the game in terms of defending each other (or so I have seen someone say) that is why i am voting for youngminii, and i hope he flips mafia. i like you, YM, and i hate to vote for you, but you might be mafia, and that is my objective in this game. no hard feelings, bro. I would also like to point out that I could be voting chezinu, who is likely a veteran fake-claiming tracker (sorry, i know it's sort of unethical to post my opinion about this, but i'm using this to validate my point), or artanis[xp] who have more votes on them than YM. YoungMinii is really just scummier than them in my eyes. Chezinu is possibly blue, and artanis is so lurky that i have a neutral read on him. I'll leave it to older players like Amber, ~OpZ~, or Foolishness to weed out the inactives beat you to the punch, foolishness | ||
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On August 10 2010 11:14 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Hmm so if we lynch youngminii, maybe we get something about Chezinu? It would make more sense if Chezinu was lynched first since he was the defended person, but whatever. If BM is lynched, we will get a lot of info. If Foolishness is lynched, we will get a lot of info. If Artanis is lynched, we will get a lot of info. If youngminii is lynched, we will get some iffy info on Chezinu. If Chezinu is lynched, we will get a lot of info but let's not kill likely tracker. I say we just stick to the plan and not let BM get saved again. ya, ok haters gonna hate you just implicated yourself with youngminii by even typing this if he's red, you're red, and you calling it "iffy" info on chezinu makes him likely red with you all | ||
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On August 10 2010 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: er above I said "I am ready to flip Bill Murray and see if Team 2 is the red team" I meant Team 1. Team 1: I see as Bill Murray, Foolishness, and Brown Bear for sure. Next members in decreasing likelihood: Hesmyrr, SouthRawrea (maybe?), a have a few other ideas but not worth it to cross that bridge now Team 2: Chezinu, Youngminii, VayeshMaru, maybe Artanis. Another weird thing about Day 1 voting By the end of the day, it was very two sided. These Day 1 things don't usually end up this way. If there wasn't a mafia at stake, things would probably be spread out a lot. There were a ton of people banding on to love1another. He was gonna be no help to town but there were a lot of other inactives. Now people were partially voting to save BM because he is a big name I guess, but it surprises me that it would get up to 10 votes on love1another. It seems to me like some mafia bandwagonned onto love1another to save BM, and then some townies followed onto that wagon. I am not in contact with brownbear AT ALL, but foolishness told me he claimed mad hatter. I am VERY suspicious of foolishness, and would endorse his lynch. If you want people to start voting him, and not voting me, I'm all for that. I have no ties whatsoever other than people who I think are town (pyrrhuloxia, ~opz~) I am suspicious of foolishness, chezinu, brownbear, xelin, youngminii | ||
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On August 10 2010 14:13 Foolishness wrote: Bill Murray does retarded plans when he's mafia. Bill Murray does retarded plans when he's town. I only do them to get information flowing. On August 10 2010 13:10 BrownBear wrote: ##Unvote Vote: Bill Murray You do NOT do something like that. You know better. what's worse, getting the medic to protect you? forcing them to doublestack on you? or lynching someone like me who is trying to help the town? you tell me. how about me calling you out on a childish vote? is that good play? On August 10 2010 14:52 Divinek wrote: telling people to post more doesnt work voting for them does though well, i'm posting, yet people keep voting me | ||
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On August 10 2010 14:08 Foolishness wrote: That's a very different plan from what BM suggested this game. I don't even think you and I should be debating this, let's let BM decide what's what on this one. I made that plan before the game started, actually | ||
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On August 10 2010 16:36 BrownBear wrote: Childish? My vote is showing how I've finally had enough of your retarded play. Even if you are town, which I am entirely unconvinced of, at this point I'm inclined to just cut the cancer out rather than let it fester and screw us over more. You've revealed so much shit in this thread that mafia is going to run with tonight, well done sir. You want to change my vote? POST YOUR GODDAMN "SUPER SECRET AWESOME INFORMATION BOMB". Or wait, was that "lol BB is MH"? If it was, not only was it old news to the people who mattered, it was in fact completely unhelpful to us. when you stop being so mad, i'll reply to you. i forgot you got roleblocked, so i thought you would be at maximum bombs, and i honestly don't trust your claim OR foolishness at all at this point, especially with what he has been saying. You think it's not fair that I outted you?? cry about it. You know what I think isn't fair? Foolishness's behavior and the fact he isn't up for lynch at all or being pressured because you guys don't really know how to single out who is really scum whatsoever. Even if I'm not lynched, I'm guaranteed to be killed tonight On August 10 2010 16:51 larjarse wrote: Opz sup with that retarded list that randomly states your opinion about players of this game? I'm not really goonna add anything more today besides that we should lynch one of the heavy hitters to see what happens. I voted for BillMurray. I did day one too. We lynched a townie and 2 townies were hit. There is not much evidence about who did what because no plan fell though and today isn't looking to hot for blue/green plans either. I am reading the thread and all I see is a lot of speculation. I am taking things into consideration as I gather opinions and potential intended motives from posters. Lets lynch this BillMurray character and see whats good. Grow a pair, TOWN! I love how this is completely opposite from the stance you had when you PMed me I hope the town realized I am perhaps the person doing THE MOST to save you as a collective from losing to the mafia. Am I a medic? no. Am I a bus driver? no. I'm not going to claim to you all, but know that behind the scenes, in PM land, I am bustin' my balls to save your necks. | ||
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On August 10 2010 21:35 Jayme wrote: I'll be frank when I say BM gives off more red vibe than Youngminii does. Youngminii always plays like this but it at least gets discussion going. BM always plays like this and derails the ENTIRE town in the process no matter what color he is. Plus he potentially outed someone actually valuable. Thats unforgivable. Depending on how he flips determines next course of action. BM = RED BECAUSE HE'S DOING THIS BM = ANY COLOR BECAUSE HE'S DOING THIS SO BM = RED GOOD ARGUMENT, JAYME | ||
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On August 10 2010 23:46 bumatlarge wrote: So if foolishness and pyrr are town im going to throw a list out, make of it what you will. Youngminii Larjarse Jayme Hesmyrr (he just rcently said we cant trust town pcircles after BM publicly said BB was MH... fishy to me) Misder last slot I think would be a decen poster as GF, maybe treehugger, amber and I wouldnt put it past pyrr or foolishness to orchestrate something like this, but Id worry about them last. Well, this should indicate that I am NOT in a town circle with brownbear, if anything, which should work to distance myself from Foolishness who might be mafia (i have no idea). He might really be a veteran, and we shouldn't just lynch him, we should use a detective to check him and see if he is legit before moving forward with him. My apologies to brownbear. I didn't realize he had been roleblocked, and when I remembered that I felt like an idiot. I expected him to get to maximum KP tonight with bombs on chezinu/infundibulum/whoever he was going to put one on (these are names that had been passed through the grapevine). There is no way in hell that I would live through the night, so lynching me is pointless, as I will definitely be hit by the mafia tonight if you all let me live. On August 11 2010 00:28 Hesmyrr wrote: I was giving my thoughts on just what happened. Think it would be pretty terrible to polarize your opinion on others just because he was "BM supporter", "youngminii supporter". That's not healthy at all as we do have lot of people with headstrong opinions as well. If Bill Murray flips red, I am going to read through Foolisness's posts deep and hard before I make a decision to lynch him as another scum. I'm not going to flip red. I'm not going to be flipping at all. What the hell are YOU doing for the town? On August 11 2010 00:28 zeks wrote: 16. zeks - Zeks is mafia. possible mafia zeks, Misder, Larjarse niceeee thought I could get away with lurking but guess not. fine that you guys suspect me for not being active, i agree it is somewhat scummy to lurk tbh i've only skimmed through all these pages i have no idea wtf is going on, the LSB plan or w/e most of hte stuff is going on in PM land anyway and im not apart of it. until u guys start revealing bit by bit whats going on behind the scenes i dont want to be speculating nothing OpZ = Bill Murray 2.0? Xelin seems to know what he's doing i'll just sit back and watch the fireworks now lets make sure BM gets hung today note the bolded parts here. 1) he has an admission of guilt. scum slip. he admitted he is mafia by saying "oh, hey, guys, you caught me". If I don't see someone pick up on this in the next page, I'm going to be very sad. bolded part 2) Notice how he brings up the LSB plan? Funny, LSB died in the night, but his plan was not in vain. zeks is either a terrible reader, an idiot, or someone who doesn't read the thread. I do not think he is an idiot, so I believe he doesn't even read the thread, which would make sense as to why he is just jumping on the highest totaled bandwagon as seen in 3). I expect more from him, as in my game he was in a town circle as a mad hatter. He's not doing that this game, and if he's town, we need to hold him accountable and make him help the town. If he's scum, and we do that, at least he sort of helps out by posting information. We can't let players like this cost by not reading any of the thread whatsoever or making cases, just lazily jumping onto my bandwagon without posting ANY suspicions or any case whatsoever. That's what's going on, and this lazy sort of play ONLY helps scum. On August 11 2010 01:49 larjarse wrote: Want to explain how I am possible mafia? Because every single one of my posts are quoted and thrown in a single post and scrutinized? You can lynch me, but you will only be putting the town back further. Obvious AtE, but I like this. I get townie vibes from this. The tone of it is town. | ||
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On August 11 2010 04:36 rastaban wrote: Believe it or not there are 4 tracker claims being circled in PMs and as far as i know 0 Watchers. I don't know if a bunch of trackers are lying or if flamewheel is messing with our heads. are you calling flamewheel a bastard mod? | ||
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On August 11 2010 05:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: BTW If we can't trust you guys to not out blue roles in the thread I don't even want to know what's happening inside PM circles. Christ. i'm not even in any circle, believe it or not. If BrownBear didn't want outed, he wouldn't have told his role to half the game thread. He was going to die if I didn't post that. He really needs medic protection, but don't forget that he could be scum fakeclaiming. Mad Hatter is a great scumclaim because it's unconfirmable until death. | ||
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On August 11 2010 05:41 Hesmyrr wrote: That's why I never make or join PM setups, obviously this was a terrible exception. Also, I think I've asked this question before, but was there ever scenario in where the role specified in the OP did not exist in normal TL Mafia setups? Because I don't think there are, meaning there should be Watcher. This has happened multiple times. I have seen it happen with both bus driver and roleblocker. | ||
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On August 11 2010 08:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: As for youngminii vs. BM - I imagine BM claimed blue to xelin while youngminii didn't claim or claimed green. wrong, im a townie | ||
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On August 12 2010 09:19 Roffles wrote: Yes, I'm scum. Now come and lynch me. Damn, you're so good. LYNCH WAGON ASAP | ||
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On August 12 2010 09:30 ~OpZ~ wrote: Wtf?! It says 86?! !! I'm very mad now actually... I thought you were my age because of this. When you said you're turning 21 I was sort of sad. | ||
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On August 12 2010 13:11 VayeshMoru wrote: Coo, hit claimed and now we have some info. Thanks BM no, that was a joke about the fact that like 5 people died. i have no idea if anyone protected me. | ||
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Voting analysis: On August 12 2010 11:15 Foolishness wrote: ## Vote youngminii ##Vote double lynch On August 12 2010 12:11 bumatlarge wrote: ##vote: youngminii ##vote: double lynch On August 12 2010 12:12 VayeshMoru wrote: ##vote: Bumatlarge ##vote: double lynch On August 12 2010 14:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ##vote: Bumatlarge ##vote: double lynch this puts foolishness and bumatlarge under suspicion from me. tree.hugger wouldn't have been pushing youngminii if youngminii was red. that's not tree.hugger's style as mafia. he's more of a loyal follower than someone to bus teammates. foolishness has been playing the way that he plays as godfather, imo. he messaged me really early on, just like he did the game that he and xelin were both red, where he lost as godfather. the difference is he was a lot more active on day 1 than he was in the other game, where he chose to wait until day 2 to start posting more actively in the other game. I'll have to go find what game I'm referring to... TL MAFIA XX I believe. That's what his play is reminding me of. Another game he was Godfather would be the game with the 2 factions, where there were Sumiyoshis and Gambinos. If someone has time, they could look up those games. He might be a veteran, but it could have been a ploy to "confirm" the Godfather's role by skipping sending in one of their three kills. | ||
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"I think it would be a good strategy as mafia to keep an innocent BM alive as long as possible just because he constantly fucks the town up." this. | ||
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im changing my vote to him. LAL. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:40 Misder wrote: I think that Foolishness is innocent. We have been sending PMs to each other, and I have been trying to help him get information about some people, which I can't say who. If Foolishness was mafia, he would be helping to kill his own mafia members. I also want to make a public apology to Foolishness for not doing what he told me on time. I have been stuck in class the entire day, and cannot post or pm during that time. I'm actually sneaking out to right this. I really have to go. Also, when I read that LSB is suspicious of me being mafia, I cannot click the link; it makes a 404 error. If anyone can point me to that post, I would be happy to answer why I posted the way I did. | ||
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On August 13 2010 05:22 Bill Murray wrote: southrawrea get rid of that ugly ass post in the voting thread please On August 13 2010 05:22 Bill Murray wrote: southrawrea get rid of that ugly ass post in the voting thread please On August 13 2010 05:22 Bill Murray wrote: southrawrea get rid of that ugly ass post in the voting thread please | ||
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Poll: does that post in the voting thread get on your nerves? Yes. (9) No. (3) 12 total votes Your vote: does that post in the voting thread get on your nerves? | ||
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YoungMinii has claimed vig, his target died, but he could fake that as mafia Misder has not claimed anything at all to XeliN or anyone or hadn't when I got my list There are WAY too many "townie" claims, and any of these is a good lynch cuz of it: I will break them down into groups. Likely town: iNfuNdiBuLuM - not good for lynch imo. I trust him on this one, but I might be wrong, who knows. pyrrhuloxia - based on meta i feel like i trust him as townie, but ~OpZ~ suspects him Neutral/Null: larjarse - he might be townie. he is a noob. i'm not sure if village idiot = scum here Amber[LighT] - how can we read a townie who is inactive? Mafia: bumatlarge - unlikely townie imo. good lynch candidate. interested to see his flip. misder - unclaimed, or claimed townie, idk. Likely red is Foolishness or bum is Jayme - likely red imo vayeshmoru - claimed townie, but maybe the GF. does anyone know if vayeshmoru is confirmed? would like to hear about it. couple that we with like 6 dead townies and Artanis/myself being confirmed townies/nosy neighbors and we have WAY too many "townies". | ||
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On August 15 2010 11:54 VayeshMoru wrote: A little birdie told me Misder is a mafia goon. He is first lynch target. As for second, I personally advocate infundibulum, but thats up to you guys. I was pushing Misder yesterday, as I found that cute post of his where he said "foolishness would kill his team as mafia". lol I'm all for his lynch Vayesh. | ||
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On August 15 2010 08:50 BrownBear wrote: Welcome to the game, Ace | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:03 Bill Murray wrote: All of this is applicable to what I'm trying to do here Benefits of my plan: a confirmed townie Detriments of my plan: having our tracker potentially killed, or us being confused if he is bus driven Reasons the benefits outweigh the risks: PMs If we can organize a town circle through the tracker (we're going to need our blues to focus on him via medic protection and watching), we can win this game very easily as a town. | ||
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On August 09 2010 10:01 bumatlarge wrote: I think BM defending can seem scummy in a certain light, but honestly I dont think he is scum from what Ive seen. His posts are fluffy, but I think he would be a bit more careful if he was red. Ill try to gather some things on him if im alive after the night. Hopefully im on the lesser end of the KP spectrum yes, yes i would be more careful | ||
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He told me not to try and get Divinek lynched as he was probably town: He was, mafia would never have defended such an easy lynch disagree with you here. Mafia buddy with town all the time. Even the bus driver and watchers were on xelin so there wasn't any risk of being caught either. Since when do we even have a bus driver? If the bus driver was on XeliN, he is NOT CONFIRMED AT ALL On August 16 2010 01:10 Foolishness wrote: Considering I'm a veteran and I took a hit last night, which hasn't been disputed by anyone, I beg to differ. Check that slipup. "Veteran" huh? Who says there has to be a veteran in the game at all? There isn't a vigilante, I don't think there's a dt, and I don't think there are veterans. I'm pretty sure flamewheel took those out completely so that when a ninja claims any of those it appears believable. You, sir, are a scum slot, either mafia godfather or ninja. | ||
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I know who the mafia roleblocker is BC is a ninja, and so am I lynch him, and i'll tell you all the roleblocker. | ||
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night 2: killed tree.hugger (you're welcome, guys) night 3: checked the mafia roleblocker | ||
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I know who the mafia roleblocker is BC is a ninja, and so am I lynch him, and i'll tell you all the roleblocker. sorry to spam, but this got bumped off by two huge posts, and this is important to my win condition | ||
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if the lynch wagon is on BC i can post a minute before time is up | ||
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On August 16 2010 07:29 VayeshMoru wrote: Your name was given to me days ago BM. If I was ninja you would be dead. Pretty simple since I've had every claimed role since day 2 (yes yours included). me too, seeing as i knew you confirmed artanis day 1 and then you killed divinek how else would i know that, chief too bad this community is elitist and you are going to draw medic protection when you REALLY don't deserve to win this game given that I started the primary town circle in the first place with my rolecheck of OpZ night 1 | ||
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Noone told me to change targets AT ALL. They were like, good job, bill, thanks for killing a red. | ||
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On August 16 2010 07:56 rastaban wrote: I find the fact that he had to bribe someone to even get the name funny. The second town circle (the non-blue one) realized it early on since BC was untrackable night 1, but still ended up as part of the circle only a ninja could have done that. Having learned that you offered the RB name for the other Ninjas name but didn't ante it up makes me doubt you knowledge. I propose the reverse. We the town control the medics, if you don't give up the RB's name before lynch. And he gets lynched and confirms that he is that role our medic will be on BC tonight. If you give up the name and he is legitimately the RBer we will but the protection on you instead. That is the best I can offer you, you have already lied to the town so you have to trust us now. amber wont protect me over bc are you crazy? | ||
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On August 16 2010 07:56 VayeshMoru wrote: Why? The information I was given came at a price of helping town. I fulfill my promises. As such I have helped bag mafia for them. You have done nothing to help. How I choose to play isn't your call to make. i haven't helped? you're dumb. Let's see: night 1, I started the primary town circle night 2, i killed a mafia power role night 3, i rolechecked the roleblocker I haven't helped town, though, na dispute ANY OF THOSE ACTIONS, I dare you! | ||
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On August 16 2010 08:01 SouthRawrea wrote: Whew sorry back from a short trip and BOOM CALLED IT on Misder :D. i'd say you called it since you're the roleblocker | ||
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and i claimed ninja who the fuck would do that that isnt a ninja? i was confirmed. | ||
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when i was jailkeeper i prevented both a recruitment and a hit on different nights and made VayeshMoru give up in frustration. That was sweet. now, as ninja, I cap 1 mafia power role, start a town circle, and catch another mafia power role with a dt check. Now I know why it was such an overwhelming victory when I was GF, I'm the best sniper in the world. | ||
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my actions have been so much better than yours this game, yet you're appearing to help, instead of actually helping. i'm not going to pm you, i have no urge to talk to you about this game whatsoever, nor do i have the urge to play any brood war with you or associate with you. sorry. | ||
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Apologies to the moderator, the player offended, and to myself. If I am not modkilled, I will play to my win condition, and not post within the thread at all. I would ask that if you are going to seek to have a 3 game ban placed upon me because of my behavior that you at least allow me to try to meet my win condition in the game as I have been perhaps the most active person within the game. Thanks if you are lenient on this, I really don't want to have repercussions from this or me to shift to mafiascum.net moreso on my modding/playing, because I really enjoy trying to play with people who also enjoy my favorite hobby of playing Starcraft. | ||
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"And once again, flaming is not tolerated. Keep it civil, or else you will receive a quick lightning bolt to the back of the head." I must have missed that where it isn't in the rules section. Sorry. | ||
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On August 17 2010 02:32 VayeshMoru wrote: The problem is you got checked by ME and was revealed as mafia. Since you got tracked to a dead man as well as rolechecked your looking pretty scummy. The only way you'd be legit is if a second framer existed...which none of us believe. So instead you will die and flip scum, leaving the town with 2 more to catch after south flips red as well. *were | ||
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Apologies to anyone I offended (Xelin, Opz, BC for the comments I posted my friend said and my overall attitude. If you win, good win as ninja btw) Also, apologies to Amber, especially if you protected me any nights. I really did slip up there, because I had been talking to OpZ, and had gotten in the habit of talking about you in that sense of theoretical play. This was my first game in a town circle, and I wasn't town at all, so that explains why I acted the way I did. I was merely playing the game. Blackmail as a ninja? Why not? Since I was guaranteed I was going to lose, having helped the town by killing Tree.Hugger when I was playing for the town, I decided to help the mafia in return by keeping them at 2 KP. Sorry for going back on my word, and you correctly pinned who the mafia is by the hint I gave you. I still bought them a day and a KP, and I'm pretty sure you all will catch one of the other mafias. I'm going to love seeing the godfather slip into the endgame. My guess is it's Hesmyrr. | ||
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On August 19 2010 12:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: how do I get better at town?  We need Ver's town guide.tunnel less as townie, take the spotlight less (I'm being hypocritical here) as blue, don't die (easier said than done if your name is foolishness) | ||
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edit: i thought you were a ninja/mafia, but i know your play | ||
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