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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:59 SouthRawrea wrote: Question: Why is Youngminii tied for votes against Bill Murray? Something is wrong here. If there is a reason for those votes please tell us. This would've probably been brought up later once the vote count came in. Are you asking for why the votes are on YM or BM? if YM i can answer, if BM... I guess they don't want YM lynched | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I'd like to direct your attention to foolishness, stop voting uselessly on me and BM please. Kthx. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:08 youngminii wrote: Oh yeah rastaban, good work coming up with solid reasoning, maybe you should have talked a little more with your scummates first. The votes on BM came before the votes on me. Both bandwagons are dumb. I'd like to direct your attention to foolishness, stop voting uselessly on me and BM please. Kthx. Worried that your hit last night didn't finish the job? | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
1) Completely different play style than when he is playing as town. you say that you are trying to play different this game but that brings us to the second big thing. 2) Minimal contributions, you could still be helping the town, but so far you have not contributed much, it seems your biggest posts are the ones defending yourself. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
There's this YM, Foolishness debate going on, and meanwhile we have votes sitting on Bill Murray? A ton of people have listed Foolishness as one of their most suspicious players, so why not vote for him? That's strange. About YM. I'm convinced on Foolishness, and for the most part, I buy his argument on youngminii. He played the first day really oddly, and I can see IRL issues, but then the second day he's played it differently as well. I dunno, more angry. Remember what I told you last game? Cool your jets. Going to hold off on a vote for him at the moment, just on principle, really, but I think he's far and away our best candidate. Although we keep allowing Artanis[xp] to get away with posting nothing. Thankfully there's no suicide bomber this game, so it shouldn't hurt us too much to leave him alone... for the moment. Might be a ninja? So much for candidates at the moment. There was a thing I wanted to address... On August 09 2010 16:20 DarthThienAn wrote: Yeah, I forgot to mention that. I was mostly trying to go through all of the possibilities that mattered. I think we're forgetting about this. Someone took a hit last night, AND someone was roleblocked. And we have no competing claims on either. Now, is it *possible* that the mafia would stack kills on chaoser or LSB to "confirm" Foolishness? I guess, but it's pretty silly, knowing that the medics were not supposed to protect any of them, and why would they protect either of those players anyway? But the mafia not roleblocking to confirm someone? The mafia not roleblocking on Day 1 with a devastating town plan in action? That seems really unlikely. I think we should try to confirm BrownBear and Foolishness tonight. If we can do that, then it doesn't matter how LSB's plan didn't work out, because we've got confirmed townies. We had this situation last game, and we didn't do anything with it. Let's not make this mistake again, yes? | ||
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KF91
Canada221 Posts
Although I seem convinced about how Foolishness could be scum at this moment, but YM could also be scum as well. I think it would be better if we confirmed then during the Night and go for them tomorrow. I'm also suspicious of Brownbear at this moment, since I don't think a blue role would easily give up their role in that manner. He could have been either let it slip in the heat of the moment, but I definitely see it as a mafia trying to be seen as a blue. I agree with tree.hugger's plan for tonight: confirm BrownBear and Foolishness. Plus like someone mentioned before, it might be a waste to lynch inactives starting from now, since everyday that the town misses a lynch, the easier it is for the mafia to win. But it's been shown that mafia is usually hiding in the inactive players list most of the time. So, would it be better to activate a double lynch for tomorrow and get rid of a suspicious player plus an inactive? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Just watch when foolishness flips GF it'll all be fine. I suppose defending love1another doesn't buy me any townie points does it. Not that any of you can remember, since apparently I haven't posted anything. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
As for BB, i really dont see a problem I gess. If we just have the DT check and the watcher watch him, we can catch a framer. If the try to kill him, wham bam watcher gets the info. Only beef with it is the GF situation again, really need to get it out of here :/ But the watcher can create lists and keep his mouth shut. If he watches and only 1 person visits, they stay alive and say they werent RBd we have a blue or a framer. Id suggest the watcher to then talk with him because the odds are good, especially if its someone nlikely to be framed. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
As for BB, i really dont see a problem I gess. If we just have the DT check and the watcher watch him, we can catch a framer. If the try to kill him, wham bam watcher gets the info. Only beef with it is the GF situation again, really need to get it out of here :/ But the watcher can create lists and keep his mouth shut. If he watches and only 1 person visits, they stay alive and say they werent RBd we have a blue or a framer. Id suggest the watcher to then talk with him because the odds are good, especially if its someone nlikely to be framed. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:34 youngminii wrote: ^ I'm all for that plan but I don't understand why you're jumping on the bandwagon. There hasn't been any substantial evidence against me, all that's been said is that "I've been playing differently". I don't even, what kind of argument is that. I can't even comprehend how I got 3 or 4 votes on me, that's just dumb. Just watch when foolishness flips GF it'll all be fine. I suppose defending love1another doesn't buy me any townie points does it. Not that any of you can remember, since apparently I haven't posted anything. The difference between your play this game, and your play last game is really really suspicious. There's a massive FoS on you, and you're acting like a child, throwing suspicion around and trying to get back at the people who accused you. Plus, I'll use the same argument I used last time, if we lynch you, it confirms a lot of people. I guess you could say the same thing about BM, but I'm pretty sure BM is mafia, while you've looked nothing but suspicious from the first minute of the game. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:34 youngminii wrote: ^ I'm all for that plan but I don't understand why you're jumping on the bandwagon. There hasn't been any substantial evidence against me, all that's been said is that "I've been playing differently". I don't even, what kind of argument is that. I can't even comprehend how I got 3 or 4 votes on me, that's just dumb. Just watch when foolishness flips GF it'll all be fine. I suppose defending love1another doesn't buy me any townie points does it. Not that any of you can remember, since apparently I haven't posted anything. The fact that you play angry, jump to conclusions and generally are very unhelpful doesnt help either. @KF: BB can still be vanilla, as I think someone stated that people are told if they are waxed no matter their role. Also, can mafia refuse to RB? | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:47 tree.hugger wrote: The difference between your play this game, and your play last game is really really suspicious. There's a massive FoS on you, and you're acting like a child, throwing suspicion around and trying to get back at the people who accused you. Plus, I'll use the same argument I used last time, if we lynch you, it confirms a lot of people. I guess you could say the same thing about BM, but I'm pretty sure BM is mafia, while you've looked nothing but suspicious from the first minute of the game. Pretty sure BM *isn't mafia. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
Thanks, I was confused for a moment, Bum you are correct, only way foolishness could be mafia is if he is GF. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Use 'towny likelyhood' and a 1-10 chart 5 being dead even uncertainty. For instance young is a 3 from what I can tell, and chez is a -10. So scummy its practically town lol... <3 chez | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:56 bumatlarge wrote: Dont throw the 'confirm' word around treehugger, you cant really confirm anyone without facts. And facts mean dead people and blue roles. Use 'towny likelyhood' and a 1-10 chart 5 being dead even uncertainty. For instance young is a 3 from what I can tell, and chez is a -10. So scummy its practically town lol... <3 chez If we waited for people to be 100% confirmed every game, we'd never get anything done. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:32 SouthRawrea wrote: Mafia IMHO at this point. Most of these aren't backed up entirely, just feelings I'm getting in order from most to least suspicious. Foolishness Bill Murray DTA Brownbear Chezinu Divinek If you wonder why I would even consider that they have that many experienced players, then consider the fact the game itself has quite a few as well as the fact that the game seems to have gone seamlessly for mafia with the town taking no real action. I'd just like to put my list out there. seriously duuuuuude dont post feelings post reasons poking at shit like that makes you look really scum, because it looks like you're just trying to fan the flames onto other people. Not that i believe you're scum or anything this game, yet. It just doesnt help at all. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:55 rastaban wrote: Thanks, I was confused for a moment, Bum you are correct, only way foolishness could be mafia is if he is GF. I don't see why the only way Foolishness could be mafia is if he was the godfather. On day 1 we instructed all DT's to check XeliN for the purpose of establishing a town circle, so they wouldn't be able to check Foolishness. Also, on later days, he can claim to be framed so he doesn't need to be a godfather at all. If anything, it's less likely that he is one given all the attention he is vesting on himself. He could just be normal scum that managed to attract a bunch of town affliated roles to think he is innocent. Definitely not all the people defending him are scum, so the mafia wouldn't risk too much with it. That said, I am not convinced he is mafia just yet. The veteran possibility is still strong. Ninja seems unlikely given the amount of attention he drawed. This would be something a ninja would absolutely not want to do, so I find that unlikely. Bill Murray's play seems very inconsistent so far, and I would agree with Pyrrhuloxia that there's a good chance of him being scum. The plan of mass roleclaiming without certainty of innocence to a 'reliable' person seems like way too big of a risk to take seriously. The only time we should do this is when we have a 100% confirmed townie, or very close to it. People shouldn't just be sending their roles out to everyone. For me, BM is the best candidate so far. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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