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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 09 2010 06:21 GMT
#1041
Lmao. My bad Pyrr. I take that back. -_-

I really gotta chill.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 06:24 GMT
#1042
On August 09 2010 15:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 14:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:11 Foolishness wrote:
On August 09 2010 13:52 Bill Murray wrote:
@foolishness: top 3 suspects and why?

Infundibulum: He's less active than his normal style. His current posting reminds me of Incognito's 2 mafia family game (he was mafia). He hasn't contributed anything.


Yeah, I'm changing it up this game. Last game I posted a lot and got dragged into arguments and lines of thinking that ultimately didn't help the town and ended up being frustrated with myself. Since I have less time right now anyway, i'm taking a more laid back approach to this game and trying to think more analytically than emotionally. I'm sure you're not the only one to have noticed.

That said I did some thinking and depending on what the tracker found, Xelin could be a confirmed innocent. Essentially, Xelin being framed to appear red doesn't matter - if Xelin is mafia and was tracked, the tracker will know that Xelin visited someone on today's kill list and ergo that he is mafia. If Xelin didn't visit anybody, then he's not mafia even if he was framed. So I don't think we need to worry about lynching Xelin.

Exceptions: Xelin is Principal or Ninja, in such cases my previous logic does not apply since those roles can't be tracked.

So basically this actually works out pretty well in that we have only 2 townies dead and 2 quasi-confirmed townies in Xelin and Foolishness.

If a tracker speaks up, then we would all need to PM Xelin. Basically, tracker, whoever you tracked if they visited ANYONE and the person visited didn't die, you got us a confirmed townie. If they didn't visit anyone, you shouldn't pm them. GF, Ninja....Lil scary world out there.

But, Tracker, if you visited Xelin, and Xelin visited someone. And given the watcher watched Xelin....We should have one hell of a town circle. VARY NICE?!

So once Tracker posts that he followed Xelin...Should we mass claim to Xelin? We dont have the number of roles, BUT we can assume by balance....

I thought LSB's plan was to confirm the watcher and not Xelin.
We've already had someone claim tracker and say they followed VoyeshMoru. Who? Read the thread please.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 06:25 GMT
#1043
On August 09 2010 15:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Lmao. My bad Pyrr. I take that back. -_-

I really gotta chill.

It's cool <3.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 09 2010 06:25 GMT
#1044
On August 09 2010 15:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:11 Foolishness wrote:
On August 09 2010 13:52 Bill Murray wrote:
@foolishness: top 3 suspects and why?

Infundibulum: He's less active than his normal style. His current posting reminds me of Incognito's 2 mafia family game (he was mafia). He hasn't contributed anything.


Yeah, I'm changing it up this game. Last game I posted a lot and got dragged into arguments and lines of thinking that ultimately didn't help the town and ended up being frustrated with myself. Since I have less time right now anyway, i'm taking a more laid back approach to this game and trying to think more analytically than emotionally. I'm sure you're not the only one to have noticed.

That said I did some thinking and depending on what the tracker found, Xelin could be a confirmed innocent. Essentially, Xelin being framed to appear red doesn't matter - if Xelin is mafia and was tracked, the tracker will know that Xelin visited someone on today's kill list and ergo that he is mafia. If Xelin didn't visit anybody, then he's not mafia even if he was framed. So I don't think we need to worry about lynching Xelin.

Exceptions: Xelin is Principal or Ninja, in such cases my previous logic does not apply since those roles can't be tracked.

So basically this actually works out pretty well in that we have only 2 townies dead and 2 quasi-confirmed townies in Xelin and Foolishness.

If a tracker speaks up, then we would all need to PM Xelin. Basically, tracker, whoever you tracked if they visited ANYONE and the person visited didn't die, you got us a confirmed townie. If they didn't visit anyone, you shouldn't pm them. GF, Ninja....Lil scary world out there.

But, Tracker, if you visited Xelin, and Xelin visited someone. And given the watcher watched Xelin....We should have one hell of a town circle. VARY NICE?!

So once Tracker posts that he followed Xelin...Should we mass claim to Xelin? We dont have the number of roles, BUT we can assume by balance....


Not sure if im following... You realize mafia might have framer and roleblocker, right?

You're not following.

Roleblocker...would block someones role. Tracker would follow them to whoever was role blocked.

I guess Framer would make sense...Damn...I tried...

Why you gotta spoil my idea. Hmm...But what if we claimed to who he was tracked to if he visited someone?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 09 2010 06:25 GMT
#1045
On August 09 2010 15:14 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:
So then. We can assume Xelin is practically confirmed, yes yes? Foolishness, were you med protected or vet protected? Would be nice to know you and a med are in cahoots.

Actually that would suck because it would mean another blue ignored the plan.

Xelin is 0% confirmed because we have someone claiming tracker who claims to have tracked VayeshMoru instead of Xelin.


Well, i guess unless someone else comes to claim tracker we have to take Chez's word for it :\
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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 09 2010 06:26 GMT
#1046
On August 09 2010 15:24 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:11 Foolishness wrote:
On August 09 2010 13:52 Bill Murray wrote:
@foolishness: top 3 suspects and why?

Infundibulum: He's less active than his normal style. His current posting reminds me of Incognito's 2 mafia family game (he was mafia). He hasn't contributed anything.


Yeah, I'm changing it up this game. Last game I posted a lot and got dragged into arguments and lines of thinking that ultimately didn't help the town and ended up being frustrated with myself. Since I have less time right now anyway, i'm taking a more laid back approach to this game and trying to think more analytically than emotionally. I'm sure you're not the only one to have noticed.

That said I did some thinking and depending on what the tracker found, Xelin could be a confirmed innocent. Essentially, Xelin being framed to appear red doesn't matter - if Xelin is mafia and was tracked, the tracker will know that Xelin visited someone on today's kill list and ergo that he is mafia. If Xelin didn't visit anybody, then he's not mafia even if he was framed. So I don't think we need to worry about lynching Xelin.

Exceptions: Xelin is Principal or Ninja, in such cases my previous logic does not apply since those roles can't be tracked.

So basically this actually works out pretty well in that we have only 2 townies dead and 2 quasi-confirmed townies in Xelin and Foolishness.

If a tracker speaks up, then we would all need to PM Xelin. Basically, tracker, whoever you tracked if they visited ANYONE and the person visited didn't die, you got us a confirmed townie. If they didn't visit anyone, you shouldn't pm them. GF, Ninja....Lil scary world out there.

But, Tracker, if you visited Xelin, and Xelin visited someone. And given the watcher watched Xelin....We should have one hell of a town circle. VARY NICE?!

So once Tracker posts that he followed Xelin...Should we mass claim to Xelin? We dont have the number of roles, BUT we can assume by balance....

I thought LSB's plan was to confirm the watcher and not Xelin.
We've already had someone claim tracker and say they followed VoyeshMoru. Who? Read the thread please.

Chez/Bumatlarge

I know who. There could be more than one, or chez could be lying. It IS Chez after all....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 09 2010 06:27 GMT
#1047
So reading through the thread, here's the major things I got out of this...

1: How the hell does BC factor into this game?
2: Chez continues to be amazing. And ridiculous.
3: Young continues to be young.
4: People are throwing way too much WIFOM around about Foolishness. I personally think he's telling the truth.
5: Image macros are stupid.

So, young, since you seem to be the most vocal against foolishness, and because you're trashing up the thread with hate again, AND because I want to see how you react, I'm voting for you. At the very least, lynching you gives us some information, while lynching a random inactive (bum wtf I've been more active than you >< ) gives us no information.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 06:27 GMT
#1048
On August 09 2010 15:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:24 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 09 2010 15:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:11 Foolishness wrote:
On August 09 2010 13:52 Bill Murray wrote:
@foolishness: top 3 suspects and why?

Infundibulum: He's less active than his normal style. His current posting reminds me of Incognito's 2 mafia family game (he was mafia). He hasn't contributed anything.


Yeah, I'm changing it up this game. Last game I posted a lot and got dragged into arguments and lines of thinking that ultimately didn't help the town and ended up being frustrated with myself. Since I have less time right now anyway, i'm taking a more laid back approach to this game and trying to think more analytically than emotionally. I'm sure you're not the only one to have noticed.

That said I did some thinking and depending on what the tracker found, Xelin could be a confirmed innocent. Essentially, Xelin being framed to appear red doesn't matter - if Xelin is mafia and was tracked, the tracker will know that Xelin visited someone on today's kill list and ergo that he is mafia. If Xelin didn't visit anybody, then he's not mafia even if he was framed. So I don't think we need to worry about lynching Xelin.

Exceptions: Xelin is Principal or Ninja, in such cases my previous logic does not apply since those roles can't be tracked.

So basically this actually works out pretty well in that we have only 2 townies dead and 2 quasi-confirmed townies in Xelin and Foolishness.

If a tracker speaks up, then we would all need to PM Xelin. Basically, tracker, whoever you tracked if they visited ANYONE and the person visited didn't die, you got us a confirmed townie. If they didn't visit anyone, you shouldn't pm them. GF, Ninja....Lil scary world out there.

But, Tracker, if you visited Xelin, and Xelin visited someone. And given the watcher watched Xelin....We should have one hell of a town circle. VARY NICE?!

So once Tracker posts that he followed Xelin...Should we mass claim to Xelin? We dont have the number of roles, BUT we can assume by balance....

I thought LSB's plan was to confirm the watcher and not Xelin.
We've already had someone claim tracker and say they followed VoyeshMoru. Who? Read the thread please.

Chez/Bumatlarge

I know who. There could be more than one, or chez could be lying. It IS Chez after all....

Too true. Sadly, I think I believe him.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 09 2010 06:27 GMT
#1049
Did bum claim tracker?
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 09 2010 06:27 GMT
#1050
Why did Foolishness disappear when I asked him to either claim Vet hit or medic prot?

-__-
USEFUL information guys.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 09 2010 06:28 GMT
#1051
On August 09 2010 15:27 BrownBear wrote:
So reading through the thread, here's the major things I got out of this...

1: How the hell does BC factor into this game?
2: Chez continues to be amazing. And ridiculous.
3: Young continues to be young.
4: People are throwing way too much WIFOM around about Foolishness. I personally think he's telling the truth.
5: Image macros are stupid.

So, young, since you seem to be the most vocal against foolishness, and because you're trashing up the thread with hate again, AND because I want to see how you react, I'm voting for you. At the very least, lynching you gives us some information, while lynching a random inactive (bum wtf I've been more active than you >< ) gives us no information.


1. lol, be more observant. not gonna say.
2. <3 Chez
3. Yup
4. It's whatever.
5. Whatever
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 06:28 GMT
#1052
On August 09 2010 15:27 BrownBear wrote:
So reading through the thread, here's the major things I got out of this...

1: How the hell does BC factor into this game?
2: Chez continues to be amazing. And ridiculous.
3: Young continues to be young.
4: People are throwing way too much WIFOM around about Foolishness. I personally think he's telling the truth.
5: Image macros are stupid.

So, young, since you seem to be the most vocal against foolishness, and because you're trashing up the thread with hate again, AND because I want to see how you react, I'm voting for you. At the very least, lynching you gives us some information, while lynching a random inactive (bum wtf I've been more active than you >< ) gives us no information.

If you wanna lynch for information, why not BM? He flips innocent and we might become BFFs.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 09 2010 06:28 GMT
#1053
oh glorious. The plan isn't going to work if just one of the main players didn't come through which looks like the case. Maybe if were lucky the tracker that claimed is lying out of his ass and we can salvage that complex plan...
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 09 2010 06:30 GMT
#1054
On August 09 2010 15:25 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:21 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 09 2010 15:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On August 09 2010 14:11 Foolishness wrote:
On August 09 2010 13:52 Bill Murray wrote:
@foolishness: top 3 suspects and why?

Infundibulum: He's less active than his normal style. His current posting reminds me of Incognito's 2 mafia family game (he was mafia). He hasn't contributed anything.


Yeah, I'm changing it up this game. Last game I posted a lot and got dragged into arguments and lines of thinking that ultimately didn't help the town and ended up being frustrated with myself. Since I have less time right now anyway, i'm taking a more laid back approach to this game and trying to think more analytically than emotionally. I'm sure you're not the only one to have noticed.

That said I did some thinking and depending on what the tracker found, Xelin could be a confirmed innocent. Essentially, Xelin being framed to appear red doesn't matter - if Xelin is mafia and was tracked, the tracker will know that Xelin visited someone on today's kill list and ergo that he is mafia. If Xelin didn't visit anybody, then he's not mafia even if he was framed. So I don't think we need to worry about lynching Xelin.

Exceptions: Xelin is Principal or Ninja, in such cases my previous logic does not apply since those roles can't be tracked.

So basically this actually works out pretty well in that we have only 2 townies dead and 2 quasi-confirmed townies in Xelin and Foolishness.

If a tracker speaks up, then we would all need to PM Xelin. Basically, tracker, whoever you tracked if they visited ANYONE and the person visited didn't die, you got us a confirmed townie. If they didn't visit anyone, you shouldn't pm them. GF, Ninja....Lil scary world out there.

But, Tracker, if you visited Xelin, and Xelin visited someone. And given the watcher watched Xelin....We should have one hell of a town circle. VARY NICE?!

So once Tracker posts that he followed Xelin...Should we mass claim to Xelin? We dont have the number of roles, BUT we can assume by balance....


Not sure if im following... You realize mafia might have framer and roleblocker, right?

You're not following.

Roleblocker...would block someones role. Tracker would follow them to whoever was role blocked.

I guess Framer would make sense...Damn...I tried...

Why you gotta spoil my idea. Hmm...But what if we claimed to who he was tracked to if he visited someone?



well with the 'if you track mafia' in the trackers description does that mean just goons or all mafia except the gf?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 09 2010 06:32 GMT
#1055
...Eh...Good point. I'm fairly certain you track a goon to a hit, and a framer/roleblocker to the roleblockee/framed
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 09 2010 06:36 GMT
#1056
On August 09 2010 15:28 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:27 BrownBear wrote:
So reading through the thread, here's the major things I got out of this...

1: How the hell does BC factor into this game?
2: Chez continues to be amazing. And ridiculous.
3: Young continues to be young.
4: People are throwing way too much WIFOM around about Foolishness. I personally think he's telling the truth.
5: Image macros are stupid.

So, young, since you seem to be the most vocal against foolishness, and because you're trashing up the thread with hate again, AND because I want to see how you react, I'm voting for you. At the very least, lynching you gives us some information, while lynching a random inactive (bum wtf I've been more active than you >< ) gives us no information.


1. lol, be more observant. not gonna say.
2. <3 Chez
3. Yup
4. It's whatever.
5. Whatever


Lol point I was making is, there's been a lot of posts but no real content happening. Apart from Chez claiming tracker...? Maybe? I can never tell with Chez. It seems like a pretty hard claim to me.
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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 06:38 GMT
#1057
On August 09 2010 13:59 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Oh okay EXCUSE ME for trying to spam less, I'll be sure to go back to my last game style and spam the crap out of this thread.

I've been busy with uni, thank you very much. And what have you contributed besides accusing me? Fake claiming doesn't count.


well so far you have been playing very different than you usually do man

where's the young we know and love with his big red bold lists

and his 'im gonna get you lynched motherfucker' attitude



YM, you are completely different this game, I don't mean to bandwagon you but you need to shape up or it is the rope for you. There is no majority lynch this game so you have plenty of time to defend yourself and convince us, if you are legit.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 09 2010 06:50 GMT
#1058
On August 09 2010 15:38 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 13:59 Divinek wrote:
On August 09 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Oh okay EXCUSE ME for trying to spam less, I'll be sure to go back to my last game style and spam the crap out of this thread.

I've been busy with uni, thank you very much. And what have you contributed besides accusing me? Fake claiming doesn't count.


well so far you have been playing very different than you usually do man

where's the young we know and love with his big red bold lists

and his 'im gonna get you lynched motherfucker' attitude



YM, you are completely different this game, I don't mean to bandwagon you but you need to shape up or it is the rope for you. There is no majority lynch this game so you have plenty of time to defend yourself and convince us, if you are legit.


OMG THIRD VOTE JEEP TELL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

No, but seriously, I noticed it too. What is up with YM?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 09 2010 07:03 GMT
#1059
Thoughts on last night's plan:

What should have happened -

DT check Xelin
Tracker track Xelin
Medic prot Xelin
Watcher watch Xelin
Other roles leave Xelin alone.

DT can see Xelin's ROLE. If a Framer frames Xelin then awesome. Watcher will have him on lockdown.
Tracker can see if Xelin is mafia or not. If Xelin was mafia, tracker will get the result "Xelin visited LSB/chaoser." If tracker sees "Xelin visited nobody," Xelin is either ninja or vanilla townie or GF. If tracker sees "Xelin visited [living person]" then Xelin is a blue or a nosy neighbor.
Watcher will see that "DT, Tracker, Medic visited Xelin." If it's more than three people, then maybe we have duplicate blue roles. It all depends on what the dt/tracker/watcher tell us. Are we looking for a framer/roleblocker amongst the people who visited Xelin?

A lying Watcher is dangerous because they have to be accurate with who they say visited Xelin. So I doubt that the mafia tried this one.

If Xelin got roleblocked (though, that doesn't really affect the plan), the mafia are throwing themselves into the spotlight, which isn't smart. More likely is a framer, but they probably would have been afraid of the watcher.

I think this covers it.

If Xelin is GF, then the tracker will be able to hint us in that direction - "Xelin did not visit anyone." If that's true, we should be careful before claiming to Xelin or something.
If Xelin is mafia, then the tracker will be able to tell us that.
Otherwise, we're okay right? This part might be screwed up if Chez is telling the truth (and we don't have a 2nd tracker) however.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 09 2010 07:17 GMT
#1060
the rb didnt rb xelin because he role blocked bb
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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