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On August 07 2010 20:16 youngminii wrote:
I don't like the plan.
What BM, are you gonna label me as red? So if anyone doesn't agree with your play, you label them as red. That's fucking ridiculous.
Do you really want to see how a Day 1 plan turns out? It doesn't turn out well. Just because you think you've come up with some god awesome plan that'll save everyone doesn't mean it will. And you don't go FoSing everyone that doesn't want to use it. Let me tell you now, I'm good at finding out whether people are scum or not, remember Godfather mafia? Yeah I destroyed that game. Now hopefully I'll be able to weed out scum again but you going on about this god damn plan for 20 fucking pages doesn't help when the only fucking posts I can see are by you.
you were a detective, and if you check the actions list, my actions were much better
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i like how the "pandain plan" was thought of literally 2 minutes after I suggested the watcher/tracker usage in combination
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^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what?
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On August 07 2010 20:39 youngminii wrote:
^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what?
i understand that mafia is an emotional game, and you're more than welcome to attack me as a person/player slot, but would you mind refraining from dropping the G. D.s? thanks.
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On August 07 2010 20:20 Pandain wrote:
With the State of the Pandain Plan in question I still know that I can rely on my original plan, getting people to talk. With that, I'm going on vacation. I should have internet there so I'll be posting, dw. But don't know if I'll be back in time for the vote.
So I'm voting Roffles. I'm sorry man, you can't just make one post so far, and that one post saying you don't care about anything anyone's saying. That doesn't help anyone at all. With that, I'm voting him.
He was more active than this as medic... ninja?
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Pyrrhuloxia, is there a reason you wrongly believe I am red? I've really yet to hear a good one
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Once you've been red paranoia instills itself into your psyche, if it's any consolation I don't currently think your red Bill, although I don't currently think anyone "is" based upon postings so far, yet it's an unfortunate fact that some people must be.
I'm inclined to think many of the mafia will not be posting or engaging much at this stage, the fact that ninja's are likely to employ the same strategy veils them slightly.
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Bill Murray. I believe you! *wink* *wink*
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On August 07 2010 20:48 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 20:39 youngminii wrote:
^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what? i understand that mafia is an emotional game, and you're more than welcome to attack me as a person/player slot, but would you mind refraining from dropping the G. D.s? thanks.
Harsh.
The problem with your plan Bill Murray and Pandain's is what if there's more than 1 tracker OR watcher? We're fucked then if we continue along with either of your plans. The chances of this being the case are NOT negligible either.
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I do suggest that we go through with Pandain's plan because we have nothing to lose anyways. If we get way too many visits for some reason, we drop it basically.
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On August 07 2010 22:26 SouthRawrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 20:48 Bill Murray wrote:On August 07 2010 20:39 youngminii wrote:
^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what? i understand that mafia is an emotional game, and you're more than welcome to attack me as a person/player slot, but would you mind refraining from dropping the G. D.s? thanks. Harsh. The problem with your plan Bill Murray and Pandain's is what if there's more than 1 tracker OR watcher? We're fucked then if we continue along with either of your plans. The chances of this being the case are NOT negligible either.
Doesn't matter BM/Pandain's plan calls for the Tracker to claim.
Here's the Problem
Framer Claims that he's the tracker
So we follow this plan
On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote:
your plan isn't good.
let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand:
watcher watches player a
tracker tracks player a
framer frames player a
roleblocker blocks player a
watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who
This is my plan:
watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a
tracker visits player a = we trust him
tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him
Framer frames player a
watcher watches player a
and
watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a
tracker visits player a = we trust him
oops
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On August 07 2010 12:40 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Current Version of LSB Plan
We pick a THIS GUY.
All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him.
Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too.
If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher.
If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed.
If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher).
If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good.
If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia.
If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). but how do we set up a real circle when the role blocker gets in there
Okay, I will make an extreamly extended version of my plan
PROBLEMS: The watcher has to be smart. If the watcher is dumb/inactive, the plan fails
Day 1 We agree to this plan :D
Night one
On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Current Version of LSB Plan
We pick a THIS GUY.
All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him.
Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too.
Day 2: On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher.
If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed.
If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher).
If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good.
If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia.
If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game).
So basically, Day2 is there to get the watcher confirmed. The watcher then STEPS FORWARD, we'll have to sort though everything.
Anyone messing with the plan, should be spotted and killed.
Night 2
Bus Driver protects Watcher.
If there is only one DT claim, Watcher orders Medics to protect DT. (iffy, but I don't think there is only going to be one DT claim)
The Watcher will now control detective/trackers action.
Watcher randomly assigns detectives to check up on people. Watcher has a list of what they should be, and the detective needs to match the list. Watcher does the same thing with trackers
A few notes.
*If a framer frames someone, they will show as regular red, not red special. So the Watcher should send the DT to people who claimed a blue role that can visit people
We work from here, but the circle could gradually confirm each other. Takes a bunch of logic though
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Sorry about not posting for a while; I wasn't home yesterday.
I thought I would have a shitload to catch up through, but it was just arguments for 10 pages :/
I'm liking LSB's plan above me, but the fact that it depends so much on one person scares me. If the watcher does not pull through in this plan, we're going to have to make up another one on Day 2. But I think that it's a risk we can take since it has so much reward if it's done right.
I'm believe we should carry out LSB's plan tonight.
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I'm not comfortable with the way Chaoser has jumped into the voting thread and bandwagoned a vote on someone who is already liable to be lynched.
Ignoring my feelings on Bill, although as i've said he doesn't strike me as mafia, I'm quite suspicious of such behaviour and as such will striking down against Chaoser with great vengeance and furious anger.
Liable to change ofc.
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On August 08 2010 00:09 XeliN wrote:
I'm not comfortable with the way Chaoser has jumped into the voting thread and bandwagoned a vote on someone who is already liable to be lynched.
Ignoring my feelings on Bill, although as i've said he doesn't strike me as mafia, I'm quite suspicious of such behaviour and as such will striking down against Chaoser with great vengeance and furious anger.
Liable to change ofc.
lawl, how was I bandwagoning a vote? I was on love1another's vote and when I saw a massive influx of people voting for him (3), I decided to change over to BM to keep the votes close together (love1another-6, BM-5) so that if BM is mafia then more mafia would need to jump ship in order to save him. You talk about bandwagoning and yet you say nothing about the people who just suddenly voted for love1another.
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Well I happened to be refreshing the threads and saw you post yours without any explanation, at this point it's enough for me, as far as "suspicious" acts go this early in the game it's about as much as I'm going to get to go on so for now I'm content to stick on you.
Don't take it as me accusing you of being mafia, more just a reaction to an act that I find slightly suspect.
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On August 07 2010 20:39 youngminii wrote:
^ Nobody gives a fuck whether or not you came up with the plan originally. Stop spamming this god damn thread, are you doing this on purpose as scum or what?
What a wonderfully ironic comment...
But you're somewhat right, at least. Pyrr and BM are in full red scare mode, accusing anyone who disagrees with them of being mafia. That's not the way to play the game. Honestly, I don't see what either of you see in each other, you look like the usual cast of angry green players. The last couple pages are basically unreadable because of you two. Calm down and post constructively.
The most pressing matter at the moment, isn't these plans, which we still have time to hash out at night, but it's our lynch today.
I think love1another has 7 votes, to BM's 5, which is good, but I think there are still people left to vote, so it could swing. I don't think it should, because I think BM really doesn't have anything to recommend him as mafia here, and neither does love1another, really, but at least BM's been posting. However you view that posting, discussion is better than no discussion.
I actually avoided this thread this morning, because I thought there might be SPL spoilers because of the neutral way were deciding the lynch. But apparently we're not doing that. Anyway my vote is still on Artanis[xp] who, I might add, has also been spectacularly unhelpful!
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I think it's weird that love1another hasn't really come to defend why he shouldn't be lynched. It's funny that he made one post and just gave up, and hasn't really been providing the town with much help at all.
I think if it came down to who was more likely to help later it would be Bill.Murray. I don't know how love1another plays, or if he's ever played in another mafia game. His behavior alone warrants a day 1 lynch.
Especially since we haven't had anyone doing some bs roleclaim on day 1 so there's really no other options at this point.
I'll save my vote in case BM is getting too far ahead.
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Well I guess to be fair it's been 3 unhelpful posts.
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