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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:23 GMT
#701
You also act like them roleblocking our tracker is a bad thing... would you rather have a tracker roleblocked or a medic?

my plan is way better imo
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:25 GMT
#702
also, if we have 1 tracker claim, and no counter-claim, we won't even need to lynch him. we can just medic protect him, bus him, whatever to keep him alive. furthermore, if we can't break the game like i want to, we have to resort to scumhunting! oh no, whatever shall we do.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:28 GMT
#703
to reiterate, i encourage everyone to go back and read foolishness and pyrrhuloxia's interaction on pages 23 and 24. one of them is scum, and i'm leaning towards foolishness. my only problem is his play as red generally doesn't start until day 2, so i am kind of confused by that, but other than that, it fits in line with his red play, wheras pyrrhuloxia's doesn't fit what i saw of him last game.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 07 2010 10:36 GMT
#704
On August 07 2010 19:22 Bill Murray wrote:
blues ignoring plan but reds not ignoring it, fakeclaiming blue, and raping us....

not like that ever happens....
or happened last game....
na,
no way, jose

Blues didn't ignore the plan last game. They all claimed. We made fake claims. Town sorted it out poorly.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 07 2010 10:38 GMT
#705
On August 07 2010 19:23 Bill Murray wrote:
You also act like them roleblocking our tracker is a bad thing... would you rather have a tracker roleblocked or a medic?

my plan is way better imo


It is a bad thing, then your plan won't work. Duh.


On August 07 2010 19:25 Bill Murray wrote:
also, if we have 1 tracker claim, and no counter-claim, we won't even need to lynch him. we can just medic protect him, bus him, whatever to keep him alive. furthermore, if we can't break the game like i want to, we have to resort to scumhunting! oh no, whatever shall we do.


Basically what the watcher in my plan would do, however my watcher would get way more info.


On August 07 2010 19:19 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 19:17 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 07 2010 19:16 Pandain wrote:
On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote:
your plan isn't good.
let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand:

watcher watches player a
tracker tracks player a
framer frames player a
roleblocker blocks player a

watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who

This is my plan:
watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a
tracker visits player a = we trust him
tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him


ahaha, if that happens, that's the best thing ever. We get BOTH of the special roles for mafia. The watcher will know everyone, and basically we can medic protect the watcher and then lynch the other 3. Sure, we might lose a tracker but we'll get a framer and a roleblocker. Better evidence please.

Exactly. List of 3 with 2 mafia on it? We don't want that?

you act like we'll KNOW they're mafia. We won't.


Congragulations! You just identified a negligigible risk that has been already discussed and found to be highly, highly, highly improbable.

Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:46 GMT
#706
you consider fakeclaims negligible? you were in last game...
did you learn ANYTHING?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 07 2010 10:47 GMT
#707
On August 07 2010 19:46 Bill Murray wrote:
you consider fakeclaims negligible? you were in last game...
did you learn ANYTHING?


So tracker fake claims. We've already discussed this. Do you really want me to explain it for like the 5th time.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:48 GMT
#708
I'd rather not have to worry about it. With my variation, we force them to roleblock a role they don't really even want to roleblockm, because town circles scare them
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 07 2010 10:50 GMT
#709
On August 07 2010 19:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I'd rather not have to worry about it. With my variation, we force them to roleblock a role they don't really even want to roleblockm, because town circles scare them


With my plan, they do the same. Since if they want to stop the town circle they have to send a framer/roleblocker to said person(Preferably you.)
My plan does everything yours does, but better. Please realize that.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:53 GMT
#710
no. your plan has way too much information to sift through, which makes it potentially unconfirmed. mine ends up as either a) a confirmed townie or b) a controlled roleblock away from out medics and dts
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:53 GMT
#711
On August 07 2010 19:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 19:22 Bill Murray wrote:
blues ignoring plan but reds not ignoring it, fakeclaiming blue, and raping us....

not like that ever happens....
or happened last game....
na,
no way, jose

Blues didn't ignore the plan last game. They all claimed. We made fake claims. Town sorted it out poorly.

TOWN SORTED IT OUT POORLY?
SO LETS DO PANDAINS PLAN OF AN 8 PERSON CLUSTERFUCK AT MY PLACE
GREAT IDEA
WE'D SORT THAT OUT THEN?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:56 GMT
#712
and if you're saying no medics, no bus, only 1 dt (it would be 2, since we'll have 2, durr. or it COULD be none. they might both think "the other one will do it".), 1 watcher, 1 tracker, it will still end up being 4 or 5 people, if not more, mark my words.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2010 10:58 GMT
#713
if i don't get medic protected, you're pissing away my helpfulness to the town

you're guaranteeing i die, basically, probably because you're mafia. good job shifting focus away from the real pro-town plan, though
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
August 07 2010 11:04 GMT
#714
I have to say Bill and Pandain if you guys end up both being mafia I'll be exceptionally suprised, would show some great dedication to faking conflict this early in the game.
Adonai bless
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 07 2010 11:06 GMT
#715
On August 07 2010 19:56 Bill Murray wrote:
and if you're saying no medics, no bus, only 1 dt (it would be 2, since we'll have 2, durr. or it COULD be none. they might both think "the other one will do it".), 1 watcher, 1 tracker, it will still end up being 4 or 5 people, if not more, mark my words.


watcher has to deal with these people
-1

Hmm... unless someone else can offer anything, this may be right. The chance of there being two dts is enough to be taken seriously.
Thoughts about this? I'd like to try to save the plan if possible?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 07 2010 11:07 GMT
#716
On August 07 2010 20:04 XeliN wrote:
I have to say Bill and Pandain if you guys end up both being mafia I'll be exceptionally suprised, would show some great dedication to faking conflict this early in the game.

When I asked Pandain for his PMs with BM he handed them over in like 30 seconds, maybe 2 minutes. Yeah, he could have prepared them or handed them over if mafia, but I really doubt they are on the same team.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 07 2010 11:15 GMT
#717
On August 07 2010 20:06 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 19:56 Bill Murray wrote:
and if you're saying no medics, no bus, only 1 dt (it would be 2, since we'll have 2, durr. or it COULD be none. they might both think "the other one will do it".), 1 watcher, 1 tracker, it will still end up being 4 or 5 people, if not more, mark my words.


watcher has to deal with these people
-1

Hmm... unless someone else can offer anything, this may be right. The chance of there being two dts is enough to be taken seriously.
Thoughts about this? I'd like to try to save the plan if possible?

With all this arguing I dunno how we are ever gonna get the blues to even figure out what plan they should go with.

For me priority one is scumhunting. Any blue plan is icing on the cake but shouldn't be necessary for us to win. So, BM is right on that. Problem with my perspective is that I think he is mafia and his plan no apparently includes him getting medic protection? I love how he says his plan would be great if it gets blocked because that will distract the mafia roleblocker from possibly stopping the medic. But now his plan apparently includes a 100% chance of distracting the medic, forcing him to protect an obvious mafia member and leaving the mafia free to hit tonight with impunity.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 07 2010 11:16 GMT
#718
EBWOP (missing letter)

For me priority one is scumhunting. Any blue plan is icing on the cake but shouldn't be necessary for us to win. So, BM is right on that. Problem with my perspective is that I think he is mafia and his plan now apparently includes him getting medic protection? I love how he says his plan would be great if it gets blocked because that will distract the mafia roleblocker from possibly stopping the medic. But now his plan apparently includes a 100% chance of distracting the medic, forcing him to protect an obvious mafia member and leaving the mafia free to hit tonight with impunity.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 07 2010 11:16 GMT
#719
I don't like the plan.

What BM, are you gonna label me as red? So if anyone doesn't agree with your play, you label them as red. That's fucking ridiculous.

Do you really want to see how a Day 1 plan turns out? It doesn't turn out well. Just because you think you've come up with some god awesome plan that'll save everyone doesn't mean it will. And you don't go FoSing everyone that doesn't want to use it. Let me tell you now, I'm good at finding out whether people are scum or not, remember Godfather mafia? Yeah I destroyed that game. Now hopefully I'll be able to weed out scum again but you going on about this god damn plan for 20 fucking pages doesn't help when the only fucking posts I can see are by you.
lalala
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 07 2010 11:20 GMT
#720
With the State of the Pandain Plan in question I still know that I can rely on my original plan, getting people to talk. With that, I'm going on vacation. I should have internet there so I'll be posting, dw. But don't know if I'll be back in time for the vote.

So I'm voting Roffles. I'm sorry man, you can't just make one post so far, and that one post saying you don't care about anything anyone's saying. That doesn't help anyone at all. With that, I'm voting him.
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