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On July 24 2010 11:53 Divinek wrote: im just excited waiting for bcs long post
though there are a few inactive fucks that post like once a day whom we should really be putting into the spot light (IM LOOKING AT YOU BUM)
instead of the people we've constantly been talking about
Oh boo hoo mr 'i just criticize what everyone says alot so i dont have to come up with anything'. if Im so suspicious, why dont you vote for me. Is it because you dont want to put yourself in the spotlight. Helpful advice, even when if you managed to bandwagon against someone with a relatively small initiate paragraph of complete incrimination on someone and they get lynched and people point at you, you will still manage to get away with it because you did that, and DTs wont even check you for it. Im going to have to try that when I get mafia. Meanwhile I am going to go to sleep on my couch and watch TV as I wait til the morning sun 2 days from now. Must be a lame ass planet that liquidville lives on to have 48 hours of light and 24 hours of night. How could you even compensate? I bet they live on tatooine or something
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Oh wow nice, you are a fucking DT magnet citizen.
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On July 24 2010 12:24 youngminii wrote: ebwop directed @ bum + Show Spoiler +
Maybe if you mass PM everyone you're ideas you will be above certain players too my youngmini
##Unvote Southlight ##Vote tree.hugger
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On July 24 2010 12:33 zeks wrote: citi.zen is win? citi.win
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On July 24 2010 12:33 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2010 12:27 d3_crescentia wrote:On July 24 2010 11:04 Bill Murray wrote: d3, you voted for two people in the same post when there is a single lynch today, pick one, or i will pick one for you.
siniquity, see the above post where you may not vote for double lynch without voting abstain. oh so for some reason I thought double lynch had passed for today and not for tomorrow ##vote: abstain If there are 13 votes for abstaining, then we accidentally end the day, correct? Please don't vote at all, or throw your placeholder vote on someone who is not going to carry the day in the end. For example, I'll add to the double lynch. ##Vote Xelin (Haha, where has he been?) ## Vote Double Lynch I SUGGESTED XELIN BEFORE
POO ON ALL YOU
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IMO citizen is 100% confirmed, because if he is scum, he is relying on the other blue KP role being inactive, and if they havent claimed yet, then any others might as well be red. If I was the Blue KP, then citizens 'scum' plan would have gone to complete shit, and we would trade a BlueKP for scum, maybe even a GF. The DT part of his plan doesnt matter in regards to his innocence. The fact that BC is going into detail about the DT part of this confuses me, since the only thing that matters is the other KP role (I think we are relatively assured that tricode is not in cahoots with citizen, as then both KP roles would come forward, and I doubt tricode is red and citizen isnt)
So BC, if you're town, you are relying on the other blue coming forward, you would have o be a DT to base all your life around a KPBlue who was supposed to come forward for you, but you just couldnt wait? Is your checked KPBlue afk? Or did you not tell him to come out yet, because you want to back your fellow reds claim to a KPBlue as a DT or something. And the only way that could be denied is if citizen knows both DTs.
That makes me think you are scum, very heavily so, since you couldnt make your 'KPBlue' come forward yet, and you are just prepping the scene for your scum buddy to make the claim i guess? Or are you just being difficult for no reason at all when citizen is offering a plan to make both DTs work together, or do you honestly think that both citizen is a stupid red and our other BlueKP is an ignorant retard who cant counter claim properly. Its been roughly a day, and mafia arent that lucky, and i dont see how they would give it a shot after having a nice lead already.
##Unvote tree.hugger ##Vote BloodyC0bbler
I think earlier I unvoted southlight, when I meant southrawrea, my bad.
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##Unvote bloodyc0bbler ##vote Southrawarea
I think this is like my 5th vote change, sorry BM and sorry south, its for the great good you dirty mafiaso.
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On July 25 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 07:40 SiNiquity wrote: I bet Tricode and BC are cackling maniacally at their good fortune. Kill a medic, claim 3rd hit + protection (both unverifiable), draw out the other 2 KP roles. Let them kill each other. Bonus is that they're both hatters instead of vigilantes.
So much for 50/50. You bring up a very good point here, and I think everyone should read it. It is still possible that Tricode is the liar, and there are 2 Mad Hatters in the game.
Very true. BC and Tricode taking advantage seems extremely likely, wish soutrawerea claimed sooner. Chaoser dying does seem silly if south was just a little late on the uptake and a really new player thrust into our world all of a sudden.
Killing tricode seems less of a risk then killing a bomber if hes just a vig now, but if hes scum, we can point right at BC for the next red, as they would have had to work this out together to figure this out. I dont wanna force the medic out, but now that three KPs are on the table, it might help if he claimed to someone.
I still find it extremely silly for citizen to be red as he wouldnt benefit much from just killing a KP role and he would die eventually.
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On July 25 2010 08:02 SiNiquity wrote:] Citi.zen if you're Mafia, props for fucking with my head.
same
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On July 25 2010 08:05 zeks wrote: People really need to evaluate how risky it was for citi.zen to claim the last MH role after most of the town agreeing with Tricode.
SR claiming however has a lot less repercussions than citi.zen.
Mafia is already out with a lead in this game is it even necessary to play such a huge gambit with citi.zen? What is the point of even taking such a risk?
Also his death would confirm tricode who im guessing they would use they plan to either kill or use their bomb on, which would be convenient if citizen was the IT...
hm, cant really come up with a solid solution to get a towny circle out of this, but im just glad our DTs and the medic will get another day to live
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Oh god dammit i cant keep up properly anymore
Can someone clear this whole DT situation up before the lynch gets through? And BC callin out citizen on when he posts claiming he picks and chooses when is a dirty tactic, as if you claim you know his schedule and when hes not busy. Thats not the way to go about accusing someone.
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I honestly didnt think of him being the IT up til south came forward, that would give him a good reason to fakeclaim like this I guess, and he could just blow up later. Still he could be telling the truth, id like a clear explanation with the DT claims from him.
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On July 25 2010 08:51 BrownBear wrote: Look at it this way, young: If citi flips blue, we know instantly BC/tree.hugger/all of them are scum.
This makes it all the more important that we vote double lynch NOW. Or they are innocent and south is the scum :/
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On July 25 2010 09:16 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 09:12 SouthRawrea wrote:Back. Grandparents wanted me to eat even though I already did >.> I really don't understand how Youngminii thinks all his arguments are perfect. You're saying things that are illogical. Why would the mafia want to save me if I'm the "noobie mafia" that you say that I am. On July 25 2010 08:07 youngminii wrote: I call upon every player in this game to vote for either citi.zen or South. One of them is confirmed mafia. There is no hiding under this "I think they're all innocent" nonsense. Pick one.
But more importantly, pick SouthRawrea.
There are four possible outcomes: If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then we've taken out one red. We have a town member to form a circle around (SouthRawrea), and this player is 100% new to forum mafia.
If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then ASSUMING citi.zen's already given the second DT party (his inactivity cough) AND if we rule out the possibility of TWO DT groups claiming to him, then we have a town circle with a DT. Two people needlessly die and if you all really think that citi.zen's scumhunting abilities are so good, then why don't you trust him on his SouthRawrea hunt?
If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we gain a whole load of information with many implications (unfortunately no one listens to me anymore). We've got BC backed into a corner, we've got chaoser (imo) and a few more, AND we have a huge townie group with TWO DTs working together.
If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies. Only one death compared to two if citi.zen's Mad Hatter. I do think he's mafia and maybe you would too (directed at tree.hugger) if you got off your high horse and read my analysis posts once in a while.
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God I can't believe how fast you all just follow tree.hugger's bias 'situation report'. This especially. Even if I am 100% new, I can pick up pretty quick especially if I get this circle to help me out. Also, we get rid of one of the mafia's top members who could possibly have power over the DTs if he really got those claims. If he's blue, he should at least tell us if one of his bomb targets at this time is me so that the vilage knows what voting him would do. We then have many scum to pick on as you have pointed out so well. (Chaoser for example) and we get me supposing that I am mafia. If I'm mafia, I as well as a few others have already said why your line of reasoning was wrong. We do in fact gain more info from killing citizen as mafia rather than me. If I'm town, we get Chaoser who you ALREADY believe is red and we still have our Mad Hatter to place bombs while being directed by a new town circle. As well, because I'm such a noob, mafia may be reluctant to kill me immediately tonight which gives us a chance to get order in the town. My post was actually a parody of tree.hugger's, it wasn't meant to be taken 100% seriously (even though some good points are in it), I was just trying to show how stupid it is to blindly follow a post that has logical inconsistencies and over exaggerations just because 5/6 other scum rally behind the post. But yes, your play has been less than spectacular in this game and there's no reason to trust you to make any game deciding decisions. Your arguments are now following BC's style of arguing, filled with horrible flaws. I wouldn't be surprised if BC just PM'd you with that entire post and told you to copy and paste it into this thread.
You're saying you think BC and South are possibly linked together? Is tricode innocent then and BC just got really lucky?
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Just wanna go over tricodes posts to find something
+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2010 07:56 Tricode wrote: From that list above i believe it can be a agreed on a majority is saying we should lynch an inactive. Other then that I don't really feel like we have enough information yet to even try to snipe someone....well unless they're is a very stupid mafia member. On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote: ##vote abstain
Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.
Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.
1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.
2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.
3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.
Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.
Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.
On July 18 2010 10:45 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote: EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr ##Vote Abstain I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote: No-Lynch?
Oh hell no absolutely not.
I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.
No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS. Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying. Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt. But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time. On July 21 2010 04:02 Tricode wrote: Hey just finished catching up, sorry for inactivity had to drop my dad off the airport last night and then went to a relatives house. Also every time i refresh or hit next page, it seems like you guys would just add another page on me!
There was just so much to read!
As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets).
Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote.
Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention).
For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate.
##Vote BrownBear On July 22 2010 12:07 Tricode wrote: This is pathetic, it took me a whole freaken day just to catch up to all your posts and even then I had to skim through some of them and the crap that you guys filled it up with.
There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up.
The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion.
With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning.
Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting.
Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively.
For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for.
##unvote ##vote abstain
So far he doesn't mention BC once, which I find odd. If he planned on hitting him, it was certainly spur of the moment. Why wouldn't he pick one of the people he mentioned? I also find it weird that he now supports BC :/ sounds fairly wishy washy. On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote:On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote: Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."
But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan. Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful. If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it. If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC. Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late. Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig? soft claims vig? On July 23 2010 16:24 Tricode wrote: Meh fine I guess, I will take one for the team.
I was the vig. I was aiming at BC
Reasons: Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me?
Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion.
When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing.
The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at.
Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell.
Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me.
In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it.
If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on.
Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you.
You will get your proof of innocence after my death. OK um wow, he says he thinks youngminii is suspicious, and starts saying he doesnt care if he gets lynched, which kinda makes it either seem like an apathetic towny who failed or a really deep scum trying to get away with being a vig, which in itself is pretty ridiculous. Says to trust BC which seems really fishy. Why is he trusting the person he tried to kill? On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 23 2010 16:29 d3_crescentia wrote: wait what
that post doesn't even make sense
you aimed at BC but you don't want him to die? why the hell would you do that Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past. And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything. Both he and BC play it off like D3 never even accused them of that... On July 23 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote: Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste.
Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case...
Good night town.
##Vote: Abstain ##Vote: Double Lynch You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game. Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC. Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name. So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did. Either case, my dream failed. So you gunned or him because you wanted to, how very untown-like I really dont feel comfortable keeping someone like this around, if there going to put some secret desire to kill someone for fun. And I don't think tricode is some noob player, which is weird. On July 24 2010 11:04 Tricode wrote: ##vote Abstain
Place holder.
I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote. On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote: BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round.
So
Changing my vote
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##Vote: southrawrea On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote: #vote SouthRawrea
Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die
How does that make any sense mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched 1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process 2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable 3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming. Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl Okay, I can see this line of thinking now. However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all. Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots. The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not) Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh... There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig. Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy. On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote: #vote SouthRawrea
Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die
How does that make any sense mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched 1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process 2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable 3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming. Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl Okay, I can see this line of thinking now. However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all. Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots. The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not) Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh... There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig. Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy. I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen. Says he agrees with BC, but doesn't change his vote from south to citi, and posts after a little bit. Thats really suspicious in my book when you add everything up.
If a mad hatter gets lynched tonight, I think we need to go after this guy. Hopefully one of them put a bomb on BC, because that would help tremendously in figuring some stuff out. Also hope the DT situation gets resolved very soon...
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Oh wow I missed Citizens vanilla claim the fuck
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MH does give him some mafia hit protection as they will be fearful of taking him out, seems pretty straightforward, but he lied to all of us which doesnt make me happy hopefully the real mad hatter comes forward after and bases his towniess on citi, or maybe citi can just say his name or something idk its too confusing...
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On July 25 2010 10:10 Bill Murray wrote: citi.zen came a vote away from a majority. chaoser has southrawrea down a vote more than he should have, and he also fucked citi.zen's up at one point as well, which is why i was getting onto him. sorry for being a little too... stern. MODKILL HIM!
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Cool, and the DT and mad hatter revealed to him? Guess that DT is getting busy
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On July 25 2010 10:18 youngminii wrote: BC SouthRawrea Chaoser Infundibuxdlgxcubum Pandain (Claimed DT) Amber[Light] (Pandain claimed to have checkd him) Tree.hugger (moved tree.hugger to the bottom 'cause it's likely he's just bad town)
Quote this every page. Thanks. You are all fucking dead
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