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Though the usual kill the least inactive idiot always seems to be a good idea, one of them is usually mafia anyways. As for a final note, I am always up for killing the Cobbler. It is my soul purpose of entering these games. | ||
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Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work. Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive. 1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate. 2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate. 3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive. Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do. Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches. | ||
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote: If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS. Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying. Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt. But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time. | ||
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There was just so much to read! As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets). Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote. Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention). For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate. ##Vote BrownBear | ||
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There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up. The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion. With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning. Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting. Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively. For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for. ##unvote ##vote abstain | ||
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On July 22 2010 16:27 Subversion wrote: when is night?? Why? | ||
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On July 22 2010 16:35 Pandain wrote: Omg you right. His new post "Why?" has earned him the long coveted award of 7 posts. I tip my hat to you sir. Thank you. I am glade you are impressed. I hope this post also impresses you. | ||
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On July 23 2010 02:48 Pandain wrote: Shh... you're getting to close to my involveement n.n. But I really think one of our plans for day 2 should at least be getting the really inactive people I pointed out to talk more *Cough*Tricode*Cough*. Anyone else agree? Me. I agree. Kill that douche bag bastard. Please do so. | ||
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On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote: Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful. If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it. If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC. Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late. Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig? | ||
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I was the vig. I was aiming at BC Reasons: Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me? Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion. When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing. The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at. Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell. Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me. In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it. If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on. Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you. You will get your proof of innocence after my death. | ||
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On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past. And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything. | ||
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On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote: Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste. Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case... Good night town. ##Vote: Abstain ##Vote: Double Lynch You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game. Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC. Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name. So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did. Either case, my dream failed. | ||
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Place holder. I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote youngminii | ||
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So Changing my vote ##unvote youngmini ##Vote: southrawrea | ||
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On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote: Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh... There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig. Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy. | ||
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On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote: I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D  You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen. | ||
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On July 26 2010 06:24 zeks wrote: i am inviting the scum to hit me if BC and SR are both clear they'll definitely hit me today What if SR is mafia and Bc is innocent (or vice versa) and what if Mafia already thought of this and decided to go "Let's not kill Zeks that way the town will waste lynches again and may only get 1 red." List of what could occur: 1.So if they don't hit you, we are left with the option of 1-2 people are mafia. 2 people dead and 2-3 suspects to go. 2. If they do hit you we could have 2 town and 1 red killed. 2 for the price of 1 for mafia. Plus their second hit making that 3 town dead. So 1 for 3 3. we could have 2 red killed and 1 town killed. Plus 1 more town. 2 for 2. Also I don't recall Bc really defending south, he claimed that we might get better info by killing citizen. Please consider these factors in your plan. | ||
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Does South's story even make sense? 1. Obviously this is a Bull Shit story in which case South tries to deflect suspicion off him to BC (cause there was some there anyways) 2. The stupid story fails and we kill both them. Why would both want each other killed, BC initiated reasoning and was the one who put South in the lynching corner to begin with. 3. Now South seems to want to drag BC with him. My policy is not to not trust anyone 100% that includes BC, but does this actually seem right to you in what's going on. Why would 2 mafia members expose themselves like this right now, why wouldn't they try to save at least one of them even if it is just a little bit of time? | ||
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On July 26 2010 09:20 Pandain wrote: 1. Well originally BC was trying to save South from getting lynched. But you're right, I do have a little suscipsion that South is just trying to bring down BC with him. Though maybe that wouldn't make much sense considering we were (assumingly) going to lynch him anyway. We'll have to wait for night at least to decide for sure. When? BC started South's lynch. he only went for citizen in hopes in gathering more info and a confirmed DT. Which we didn't get cause Citizen lied. Either case, I don't recall him defending south at all, he just switched his target for information he hoped would be there. The only issue now is, BC is trying to make clear is that Zek and mystery DT aren't also liars and that we should all keep that in mind. I do suggest we target South for 1. Claiming MH which he lied about and is saying BC is the real claimer. Which is obviously stupid, fishy, and scummy as hell. South is the likeliest of targets. 2. It will clear up Zek and the dt's name. Now it might also make BC look a bit more town though I suggest going with the saying "Keep your friend's close, but your enemies closer" When the time is right and BC looks suspicious again we can strike him down with out question. It also may lead to more info. Though if anything goes wrong like i said, we just strike him down. | ||
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On July 26 2010 09:37 tree.hugger wrote: No, let's kill South too. I wanted to kill the people who got people to proxy for them, but after that we should probably lynch South and Tricode, and then start over. I have no problem killing South. You want to lynch south and after we lynch south you want to lynch him again with me? For what reason would you want to lynch me especially if south turns to be red? | ||
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On July 26 2010 09:47 tree.hugger wrote: Did anybody involved in this, anyone, just stop to think for one moment that this was bad for the town? Did anyone who proxy'd someone to claim for them realize, when they saw my posts about citi.zen being the better lynch, or youngminii's posts about South being the better lynch, that the town was making a crucial decision based upon people lying? Did it bother you, Zeks, South, BC that he that the town was making a decision based upon facts that weren't true? I mean, the whole premise of that lynch was to rolecheck competing claims. We didn't do that. We didn't rule out anything. We're back at Day 2, and on Day 2, we were back at Day 1. And yet nobody thought for just a second and realized that through their incredible scheming , they were shooting the town in the foot. Unbelievable. Of course it all makes sense now. I remarked to Infun that South's 'claim' was suspicious because he never once said the words "mad hatter" in them. He just heavily implied it. I said several times in the thread that citi.zen being citi.zen, he's probably making some ballsy play. But I guess I was just naive, I guess I just assumed that someone, on either side, would play with their brain, and not with their ego. I guess I assumed that at least one side had the town's interests at heart. But having been hyuked by both sides? It's really annoying. ^ It's spam like this that leads us back to day 1. You didn't mention anything in why you want to lynch me or anything that is productive for the town. Thanks for adding to the 98% of spam that is in this game. | ||
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I will start considering BC more, but until then I will leave my vote on South permanently. Losing a DT was horrible for us sigh. | ||
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##Vote rastaban Apparently BC is both MH/DT, because that makes perfect sense and only adds a pile of shit and more confusion. The fact that some how BC claimed to two different roles through pm is highly unlikely and very risky move and once again still unlikely. These two idiots are just causing confusion and trying to push BC's lynch. I find the margin very slim that BC is red (though hell anything is possible), but as more accusations and claims are made about BC, the more fucked up, weird, and terrible the stories get. Please actually consider and analyze what is being said. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:35 BrownBear wrote: Guys, why are you even bothering arguing with BC. He's mafia. He's just trying to cause as much ruckus as possible before he gets lynched and has to shut up. Just ignore him and the problem will resolve itself. In a very short, terminal fashion. Can you provide any definite proof of your claim of BC? I would like an explanation that isn't bullshit or a manipulative of what actually occurred. If you can provide me with that information then I will ignore BC and vote for him. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:43 BrownBear wrote: 1) BC decided my roleclaiming plan was idiotic, despite the fact that it benefits town. 2) BC decided instead of going for South (who was 99% confirmed mafia) we should go for citi.zen. You see how that turned out. 3) BC hasn't really been sparking town discussion, he's been flaming people, calling every plan stupid, deriding every player as playing poorly, etc. This is very scummy, as he is intentionally trying to break down town unity rather than build it. 4) BC has been on the wrong side of every vote so far. You want more? I've got more. A lot of people can fit that category. 1. He found flaws in your plan which I was not comfortable with your plan as well. Don't make it a personal offense. 2. BC INITIATED THE SOUTH LYNCH! Otherwise no one or only a few of us would of voted for him! He wanted Citizen for info, citizen lied and that screwed things up. 3. The whole town has been in a flame war and FoS on everyone. Seriously you are just going to pick BC over everyone else who has spammed, flamed, and FoS randomly by 10x? 4. Uh everyone has. I believe BC's only mistake was changing his vote from South. Either case that is also the town's fault. The town should of stayed with South. BC said Cit was a good lynch for info but still claimed South would give us a red. So once again, please give me some decent valid reasoning. From my stand point I would say he has only done a few wrong moves and has only brought suspicion on him, but not enough to make any claims. Though if you look at what other people say about BC and how it doesn't make sense one bit, such as all these role claims about him and weird ass stories. Doesn't it seem obvious that mafia are trying to take advantage of this scenario? Even South is trying to vote for Cob. Wouldn't he try to at least let his mafia member live for one more night? This whole crap about Cob is fishy even the stories about him defending South which he didn't is BS!. So please once again give me information that would make me want to vote for BC. Otherwise he has done no worse then any other townie in this game. | ||
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He knew BC was going to die so I think he just added crap to keep him/her self alive and suspicion off him as if he/she were a good towny and made a lame ass fake post with fake messages. The writing just doesn't seem like BC from how long I have known him. They lack his intellectual language and there are just some things I just never seen him write. Though there is still a chance i could be wrong about this, either case I believe those pm's are fake and the time in which he tried to help get BC killed didn't really do much of a push to get BC killed. | ||
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On August 01 2010 15:37 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: If they are on a mafia team together I would think BC would have wrote up fake PMs for him. And BC could always have wrote weirdly so this seems wifom to me. They seemed like BC to me, so I dunno. Well depends how much time and effort BC would put into this game where he would be such a mastermind to make his own pms and give them to rastaban. And if he did make them up for rastaban, then maybe BC couldn't replicate the convo in how he would speak perfectly. Personally I just didn't feel like it was him talking as I imagine how much we talk through IMs and such daily. I could be wrong however so go ahead and vote who you guys believe is a better suited target. To add, I still find it strange how BC was making all these "claims" to people such as MH and DT. With out getting in trouble or caught earlier especially when he put himself as Vet for his G/F role. Especially with his style of how I have personally seen him approach people. He is more cautious and kinda seeps slowly in like a spider and a fly. Though he was a little different this game then how I seen him before or how he is with me. | ||
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On August 01 2010 17:23 Misder wrote: It was me who is the least active, but now, it seems like there are others as inactive as me. I'm just gonna continue to vote for rastaban. I still believe that BC is smart enough to create a fake pm for the mafia group in order to get rid of any suspicion of a mafia member. #Vote rastaban You mean create one for rastaban to use lol or make a bad conversation that leads him no where since Rastaban isn't a blue thus making rastaban kinda useless to BC to begin with? | ||
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On August 04 2010 16:36 flamewheel wrote: I'm flamewheel! Hi Flamewheel! I'm Tricode! | ||
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On August 04 2010 16:52 flamewheel wrote: Hello! Out of curiosity, why do people capitalize my name? That's because we are taught to capitalize names. Such as your real name. At least I believe that is a custom for most ;p. | ||
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On August 04 2010 17:13 Bill Murray wrote: sorry for the gaps, guys, but doing vote counts for 2/3 days for half a month or more really can add up on a man's spirit. i really am one of the most active players when i play in a game, but will probably refrain from modding again. BrownBear's post gave me confidence. I was seeing people say that chaoser wasn't the leading wagon, and I was thinking WTF? Is my count off? But I shouldn't have been second guessing myself. is the vote count i got from my last one. if it's wrong, SORRY. the fact people were saying one person was supposed to be lynched when in fact it was another is what made this delay this by an entire 28 hour period or whatever. chaoser is to be killed. It is now night, and will be night for a shortened period of time where I want this game to actually play out. The night will end at 10 KST regardless of if I am here or not. Really couldn't tell us his role if he is being illed and it is night now? I'm sure at this point (since there are no clues) we don't really care for a fancy story >< we just want to know the role please. | ||
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On August 04 2010 17:19 flamewheel wrote: I'm 99.3% assuming Townie. I would prefer you being wrong and me being wrong in my vote, but meh, we will see when and if ever we get a chance to see what he flips! | ||
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