EPTAnd likely enough my own vote...I gotta go look back at when citizen was alive...but I always distrust you. Lol.
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And likely enough my own vote...I gotta go look back at when citizen was alive...but I always distrust you. Lol. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Rofl. Dude I criticized a plan with holes. Hey look, tree.hugger, chaoser, and infundi did as well but your not going for them. I was under the impression they were all next to die too.... | ||
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What what what!? He denies any contact.... Eh, I can believe it. I've only received PM from zeks and tree.hugger. I don't feel too loved sittin over here. lol. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your roleclaim plan was flamed by more than me, don't try to finger me on that. South was analyzed and pulled out by me? then I went for a person who turned out to be lying and whos plan lost tons of credibilty for it. Surprise, surprise, I was wrong about his alignment, but correct on his plan being riddled with issues. Sparking town discussion? I have been doing so since I got back from work, hell, i started the discussion on citizen's plan that till then everyone was like "YEA LETS AUTO TRUST 100%" and the guy was lying. As for wrong side of vote so far? Citizen flipped liar. Amberlight has not flipped period, nor has pandain, and look pandain has turned out to be a liar as well. Dude, if you want to analyze and finger me to death, care to well not blatantly lie? Details of citizens plan became apparent on his death. Do you not understand that? Their were reasons he lied. But you're right. We should lynch zeks anyway JUST BECAUSE he has a bomb on you/south kill 4 people (lynch zeks/someone else, BC/South/someone else if bomb moves), 3 mafia or, 2 mafia and 1 possible mafia, and lose a hatter that's used both bombs.... | ||
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On July 26 2010 16:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: IF town was so sure of my guilt, they would be lynching zeks to do a few things. Prove his alignment, prove mine, prove southrawrs. INSTEAD he has said which means he has no bombs on me or SR. IE they could be anywhere. The soul means of proof he had to 100% clear his dt, clear himself, get info from me and SR is now moot. Effectively saving himself from having to prove his own identity. Do I think he is likely real based on SR/Rasta trying to off me? Yes, but he moved his bombs regardless, so him dying now becomes potentially harmful to the town depending on where those bombs went. See...This is the part that worries me. We could of gotten three mafia and possibly (under 1.5? so 2 left?) lowered the KP today just by lynching zeks. -_-....That just bugs the fuck out of me. Coulda left his dt with someone checked by the legit proven dt, and BIZZAM. sittin pretty again. Honestly BC, I want more than "lynch because they lied." because citizen told us he was lying just before he died. Told us a MH would claim. Did you place your other bomb last night South? You said you only placed one (stupid), so i'm hoping you put your bomb that you had left on zeks right? xD BC possibly played your ass hard too. Honestly I kinda believe it too xD | ||
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On July 26 2010 16:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Dude, its currently 12:12 am, and i work in the morning. Yes I can do analysis (hell I gave some the day before that got ignored and somehow turned against me). However, to get said analysis requires giving me time to actually make one. At the moment I seem to be playing the game of keeping votes off my body to end day. Good sir, you have my word I won't vote for your death until at least your next post I see after you go to sleep. I refuse to be sheeped entirely. I'm sure you understand my distrust of everything you say, yes? | ||
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On July 26 2010 16:29 youngminii wrote: What a huge shitstorm this thread has become. Glad to finally not be a part of it. Here's the facts.
Now I actually LIKE the fact that people aren't just going along with the flow and voting for the first thing they see, ie. "Oh look, people are voting for BC/SouthRawrea, I guess I'll just follow along like a sheep". Having your own opinion is extremely important in this game and if everyone had played like this on the first two days, Hyperbola and DTA would not have died, so I applaud town for not having gone and quick-lynched BC/SouthRawrea yet. However, you should be able to go over all that's happened and form your own decision and I'm certain that your own decision will eventually be "I'm going to lynch BC/SouthRawrea". When reading their posts, keep in mind of what mafia would say if they were in BC/SouthRawrea's position and remember that BC is a very, very good player. But you most also remember what the mafia would say if they knew BC wasn't mafia.... But south will probably be lynched....I ain't having another Caller-esque escape....ya know? | ||
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On July 27 2010 00:54 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: oh whew i missed that. my 3 was off anyway cause amber and d3 voted after Bill's vote count They are still fucking idiots or mafia. I will be happy to vote anyone that pushed BC AND South over majority if EITHER pops green. Could of at least waited for BC to post suspects. Could of waited for more from south. Ignore every other scummy person and possible information we could of gathered because you guys would like to vote. Sorry BC, regardless of your color, I didn't cast my vote for you yet. Vote: Abstainx2 & Double Lynch | ||
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Wtf....when was his last post!? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Xelin's Twelve] + On July 17 2010 19:41 XeliN wrote: This game has finally started, been checking for ages. So no-one seems to have suggested any plan of action or srs business. In fact most of the chatter reads like the ramblings of a girls coffee morning. I would put forward two suggestions, lynch the least active person (has it's weaknesses, specially as there is very little to talk about at this stage with no info to go on) or simply use a RNG to lynch someone and go from there. I'd prefer the latter, everytime i've played and the town does an impulsive whim first lynch a townie always dies, using a RNG then just simply going from there seems a nice way to get over the fact we have barely anything to go on. Here Xelin says to lynch the least inactive person.....Funny coming from a man with 12 posts.... (Let me point out I'm quoting all of them. So I'm not leaving anything out) On July 18 2010 05:39 XeliN wrote: I'm not entirely sure on the inactive thing, if there is someone who doesn't post whatsoever they are dead anyway, and it encourages people to spam simply to not be case as inactive. Depends how things work out, if there is someone who at the end of day 1 has only posted one thing that is about as useful as typing "lol mafia!" then I'd agree but it depends on circumstance. This only really applies for the first day, after that lynching for inactivity if there is not a more obvious choice seems like a universally very good idea, but I'm surprised more people arn't considering the idea of using a RNG to decide our first kill. And OpZ just lol @ immediately claiming 3 people seemingly randomly as mafia. Another disparaging statement towards inactivity....Really....Xelin... On July 18 2010 20:03 XeliN wrote: Just woke up, for now going to Vote Brownbear until I have a chance to catch up more fully, which won't be till later on. ....Throws a vote to brownbear.... On July 18 2010 20:04 XeliN wrote: ##Vote Brownbear (this is one of those times I wish editing were allowed ^^) Just for total inclusion... On July 18 2010 23:37 XeliN wrote: Ok just caught up and out of all the ideas presented Tree.hugger's makes the most sense. We take a group of the most inactives, including people who have contributed nothing, Darth springs to mind... and then RNG to decide. From the looks of things this is going to be impossible to organise, in which case simply voting for an inactive person seems to me to be the best we can go for. Also one post in particular stuck out to me when going over this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=17#329 I'm suprised no-ones mentioned this, it seems like a clear attempt to try to influence what the blues do at an early stage, I'm not going to try to read too much into it but it stuck out to me when going over this thread. Another thing that stuck out is Darth's lack of posting much at all, tbh that could be nothing though as I'm of the opinion that simply writing little to nothing on the first day might actually be more beneficial than constant speculation on not very much information but the fact he's taken the time to basically write nothing seems odd. I'll keep my vote on brownbear for now, he's posted nothing as far as I have seen and in the past I remember him being unhelpful to the town. ...Ideas I personally don't like supported by tree.hugger and Xelin.... Still voting brownbear in this post....kk, Lets check where this goes. On July 18 2010 23:49 XeliN wrote: Actually scrap that, I've just gone over your posts individually Youngminii and your coming across so scummy to me. You argue everyone to abstain on the first day, or vote for someone that is going to be killed anyway. That directly helps mafia, and further reduces any information that we could have going into Day 2, you've also tried to directly influence what any blues in the game do on the first day and instead of addressing the points infundulum makes against you, you flip reverse it and accuse him of being Red. Remove vote Vote youngminii ...Not even twelve minutes later he has went through ALL of Youngmini's HUGE amount of posts, and decided he was scummy? Really....in twelve minutes... On July 20 2010 02:42 XeliN wrote: I don't have much time currently to commit to this game as much as I'd like, still keeping track just can't go over things as carefully as I should. I'll be fine after tomorrow, just caught me at a unfortunately busy period. Anyway, Young, going back I didn't respond to you. Your right about my criticism of you for trying to influence the action of the blues, I didn't properly read what you were suggesting, which hopefully if I am right was simply that we should have organised a system whereby we make sure the blues do not use their night actions on the same person. I stand by my analysis of you however, I went over your posts and they did strike me as suspicious. Particularly the way you were pressing for lynching someone who was going to be modkilled anyway or a no lynch, which only hurts us. Currently the best thing to look at would be voting patterns and arguments in light of Hyperbola flipping town, I'd be careful though because it's plausible that none of the people who voted for Hyper are mafia, this is a first day lynch afterall. Your sig freaked me out earlier when I read it Bill, was reading the rules//roles section and didnt realise sig changes apply to old posts so had a weird moment of de ja vu xD Or maybe they voted for youngmini, after all....BC called him a rising star...seems a good first day lynch bus.... Now...Pay attention, He'll be active tomorrow... On July 21 2010 20:25 XeliN wrote: I'm personally not convinced about Brownbear whatsoever, his suggestions and arguments may be poor but he has not acted in a way I would expect a mafia too, his reaction to peoples accusations is far more fitting with how townies respond (although this is WiFOM, but I'm going to go with the assumption that Brown would not attempt to defend himself in a manner he hoped to portray as a green reaction if he were mafia) Out of the two candidates my inclination is for either Darth or Chaoser, the arguments against Subversion have seemed quite astute but quite frankly the actions of Darth and Chaoser so far concern me more, Darth from my past experience is extremely logical, helpful and influential. He has been none of these things this game and in the past I have only seen him in a town role. This shift in character//style would be the main reason I suspect Darth. Chaoser has been exceptionally inconsistent so far, Pandain has outlined most of my reasoning quite well on page 39, but to surmise his arguing against "no-lynching" in order to criticise a player then abstaining, using the argument "these two players are more suspicious//more evidence against them than me". This line of argument is almost laughable and reminds me of the playground type reaction "Hey don't pick on me... look at that kid... he can't even play football and he's ugly as hell". ##Vote DarthThienAn Out of Chaoser and Darth I would consider the latter more dangerous in a mafia role so I'll place it there. Not sure of the arguments against brownbear at the time anymore, other than the plan...and his inactivity which changed to being pretty active quickly. Probably stopped paying attention for a bit, so give me a lil and I'll look at him. And the vote on Darth...well....I thought Darth was playing annoying as hell...So I can't really say much. But I would rather kill darth than chaoser if I was scum too...Darth was playing wild and possibly had a power role. And one day later, a post....not a very good post....but a post... On July 21 2010 20:29 XeliN wrote: People have also brought up my inactivity, I have been keeping track of things up to this point but in quite a skim-readish way, there is no reason now why I cannot be both active and able to look over the thread carefully but I have been very busy for the last few day's which is why I didn't post much. Didn't particularly want to post for the sake of posting. Ok...I feel ya, I say the same thing sometimes....I got mad at the spam too. But definitely he'll come back and check later? On July 21 2010 22:37 XeliN wrote: I'll only congratulate him if he posts thanking me for doing so xD A jest with flamewheel!! Rather random for him to notice that so immediately... On July 24 2010 22:52 XeliN wrote: I'm going to ##vote SouthRawrea and DoubleLynch for now. I've barely had time to skim over this thread having been away from home and have to go out now as well. I'd request people don't vote for me simply because I know this won't benefit the town, but I can understand if I'm a target due to suspicion or simply inactivity. 3 Days later...Just to vote....Plenty more to say, but citizen dying is kind of annoying. I'm completely fine with BC's death just because of citizen's death actually. I was about to type my vote for bc, but not sure about day ending. This BS Pm plan can be south trying to drag bc with him, or south trying to be a green townie that got played baaaaaaad. Dunno, haven't heard of south yet, or rastaban, (BUUUUUUUUUUUUT that plan totally makes sense given they both are relatively new, and wouldn't understand how BC could trick them. Mad hatter BC, i put a bomb on you so I know you wont kill me. Detective BC, Hey your green! How do I know? Why I'm the detective!! On July 27 2010 10:00 XeliN wrote: Thanks for the PM bill, sorry my involvement is lacking this game. I ##vote SouthRawrea and Abstain for #2 Also ##Vote DoubleLynch I'm not convinced on Bloody from what I've managed to read and I think it's a mistake lynching him so i'll go on principle. Xelin refusing to vote for BC. South could just be a pawn, but maybe I'm conspiracying over here..... | ||
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On July 27 2010 17:36 Pandain wrote: Oh I was talking about Opz argument about him possibly being connected with BC. I'm saying that if BC IS red, than its more of a valid reason to suspect Xelin than the reasons we have right now. That was my point. I'm not saying go after xelin, I'm just pointing out what I thought to be a possible connection. I should check and see if bc said anything that would arouse suspicion directed at Xelin.. | ||
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On July 28 2010 02:04 SiNiquity wrote: You missed it, it's on page 142: Oh, you're my lynch vote for the next day, btw. | ||
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On July 28 2010 14:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Shit, for real? rofl. I did way better than I was thinking I had. SOOOO thought I had only stalled you. BC, you had a VERY slim chance of changing my vote...But as I've said, I regularly distrust you. And your instajump on citizen is what hugely pinned my suspicion at you. Was an epic bus of citizen you pulled off tho. GG for you sir. | ||
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