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BrownBear
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Exactly. Town needs nothing other than a bunch of crazy kamikaze players (ilu hesmyrr <3 ) | ||
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I'm exciteddd. Just as a note: Friday I won't be around because of travel. I'll make sure to work my voting around that so I don't disrupt the game/get modkilled, but if I disappear on Friday, that's why. | ||
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Noooooooooooo  But in all seriousness, it won't interrupt the game. Unless for some reason on Friday everyone decides to ask me a ton of questions. | ||
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Nobody talks until day post. It's the easiest way. | ||
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I'm excited for this. | ||
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On July 01 2010 11:55 Bill Murray wrote: BrownBear - Guy typically makes good posts and ends up in end game scenarios... good chance of him having a blue role if the roles aren't random, as he's a good medic imo. Fairly sure that darth thien an wasn't lying about it being random, though. I'm gonna go ahead and say what's on everyone's mind, and question your logic here On July 01 2010 12:02 Korynne wrote: I personally put BrownBear down with A5J and Hesmyrr, he's not quite as active as I'd like him to be, whereas me and YInk post a lot more I think. You wound me, kind lady. It's the start of the game, give me some time to post, silly. | ||
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Also, Korynne, everyone seems to place us together cause we're like the 3 main "new players" or something like that, I guess. Anyway, I'm gonna do what BM did and say who I think likely recruits are... Since Ace isn't in the game, that leaves 4 people I'd consider in the upper echelon of mafia players as far as logic/seeing them play goes: Korynne, Bill Murray, YellowInk, L. Of these 4, I'd say Korynne or L are the most likely of the "top tier" to have been recruited: BM is a bit too high profile to be noticed, and YellowInk is too obvious, given his status as the current golden-boy rookie. Korynne is probably the best mafia player currently in the game, for an example, I'm going to point to BM's example: his game, where she completely schooled 7 players, and kicked my ass even though I was in the position of knowing exactly who she was for the last 2 days (dammit XeliN). L, meanwhile, is simply too good of a townie to allow to stay townie for long, although sometimes people don't listen to him because he can be abrasive/trigger-happy with the FoS (look to TMMM for a great example where he nailed a mafia in the thread, posted some great reasons why, but nobody listened to him because he'd made too many enemies). However, I don't think any of these guys/girl were recruited night one, because that is far too obvious. After the top tier, there are the other "good" players: the guys who tend to stay active, post some good analysis, but they aren't top tier cause they're prone to dumb mistakes or bouts of inactivity, or just aren't quite good enough at the game (yet). That would be A5J, Hesmyrr, bumatlarge, DCLXVI, zeks, citi.zen, and Chezinu. These players prove they know how the game works, and I actually think this pool is from where most of the recruits will be drawn, precisely for the reason BM says A5J is likely NOT recruited - they possess a certain under-the-radar quality. We have to assume the Godfather is smart until proven otherwise, and I think a smart Godfather would try to recruit the less obvious players, while gently encouraging suspicion against the obvious players - thus, the obvious targets are lynched, while the mafia grows in number and eventually overwhelms the town. Thus, he's going to go for guys like A5J or Chezinu - A5J can avoid detection precisely because people don't expect the same level of activity from him as they do from, say, L, and Chezinu is such a wildcard anyway people will dismiss everything he does as normal Chez behavior, meaning he's actually a very sneaky recruit. Then, after those guys, we have the rest of the players: either players who are "less optimal" players, or newbies/unknowns. Not a great recruit pool, because there's a higher danger of inactivity. | ||
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And now everyone's placing me in the middle pool. Curses. Gotta work harder at being a better player. I'm not striving to be the best player, but I do want to work my skill level to a point where I can at least be considered very good. But now for some funtimes. Korynne: On July 01 2010 12:02 Korynne wrote: I personally put BrownBear down with A5J and Hesmyrr, he's not quite as active as I'd like him to be, whereas me and YInk post a lot more I think. Referring to BM's list, placing me as a player minimally likely to be recruited. Then, next page: On July 01 2010 12:33 Korynne wrote: So probably if I was GF I would go for middle of the road people, like BrownBear/Hesmyrr/AcrossFiveJulys. Enough skill to not like, out the entire mafia somehow, and under the radar enough to not be under heavy scrutiny like citi.zen or L. OBJECTION! That is a contradiction, missy. Explain yourself? | ||
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On July 01 2010 13:20 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I'm still trying to digest this new setup and how we should go about playing, but here are some thoughts for now: --I'll agree at least with the people saying that that 2nd tier skill level players are probably the most likely to be chosen. Of course, the godfather knows that too, so some meta level strategies might be used. I'm not so so worried about that, mostly because it's dangerous to start thinking too meta - you end up outsmarting yourself. I'm mostly asking myself "If I were the GF, how would I play" and rolling with that, which is my normal method of trying to scumhunt. Tomorrow, I'll ask myself "if I were newly-recruited mafia, how would I post today" and go about looking for that, too. On July 01 2010 13:20 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: --Spotting the godfather is going to be extremely difficult unless he/she sucks at playing the role. Spotting recruited mafia will be easier because we should be able to notice at least some shift in posting style, whether it be increased interest, decreased activity, fuzzier logic, etc. This. I personally think that unless there's a major scumslip, we're basically going to have to lynch the GF by accident, at least for the first 3 days. We also can't have a neutral-revolt the way we did Caller's game, because a) there's only 2 factions, us and scum, and b) DTA will forcechoke us if we try to XD On July 01 2010 13:20 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: --This is going to be tough for the town, because the mafia get to keep replenishing if they lose people. I bet the town has an absurd amount of blues to compensate. Possibly. The roleblocker is going to be huge if we have it. If we don't, we have a very tough fight ahead of us. On July 01 2010 13:20 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: --It's going to be very weird that we won't know dead people's roles, even whether or not they were mafia (right?). I'm personally really looking forward to how this works. It's given me a few ideas for a game somewhere down the line. | ||
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On July 01 2010 13:25 Korynne wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2010 13:16 DCLXVI wrote: I don't think this plan would work very well. Even if we did have a roleblocker on our side and we declared a target for him/her, we could not guarantee someone as town for more than a day. The godfather could always recruit the roleblocked person the next night. Also, can the mafia choose not to kill at night? If so then the mafia could choose not to kill when the roleblocked player is townie so that the town lynches the townie the next day and throws off our numbers for a bit. I don't understand why you say that the mafia have to sacrifice a night kill to kill the roleblocked guy, he is only safe for a day unless you plan on having him roleblocked for the whole game. That would hurt if he/she was a blue role and the chances that we have a roleblocker drop each day. This method uses our lynches to find the mafia, but unless we find the godfather we are just fighting a losing battle. Keeping the mafia numbers down is good though, so there is merit to this strategy. I suppose the longer the town can keep ahead of the mafia the more the godfather will have to say and the easier he/she will be found. Man, do I have to explain everything 5 times before people get it? xD It's not to declare that person as town, it's to not waste lynches on townies. At that point, they are not mafia, so at that point, killing them is lowering town power. We want to keep as many people around as possible. If mafia chooses not to kill that night, then they wasted a night kill! So instead of killing someone they choose, they have to not kill someone, so that the person we chose dies. That sounds like a pretty friggin awesome deal to me. We vote to roleblock one person every night, and we vote to lynch that person if no night kill went on at night. So at most 1 person dies per day/night cycle, which prolongs the game which should be good for townies. We're not really using lynches to find mafia as much as like, forcing mafia+town down to 1KP. And we never let a mafia go unlynched unless it's GF. This is a perfectly awesome idea unless we have no roleblocker or roleblocker is mafia'd. But see, that's the issue. We don't know for sure. We could be just hurting ourselves. It might work for like 1 or 2 nights, but the longer we use it the riskier it becomes. I don't like it, personally. Placing too much faith in one particular role being in the game is inviting disaster. I see your logic behind it, and it would be a great plan if we knew 100% there was a roleblocker, but we don't, so... | ||
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As we've seen the last couple of games, mafia work best when they are able to be very active, yet not actually help town that much. Read Ace's thread on how to play scum for what we should be looking for in a scum player. Obviously, as everyone else has said, our top priority is the GF. However, we shouldn't forget that keeping scum numbers down isn't such a bad thing as well: If we're torn between lynching a confirmed scum player and a player who might be the Godfather, we should probably go for the sure thing rather than the chance. Maybe it is just me, but I prefer to play more conservatively - take sure things when we have them, but don't take huge risks and expect massive payoffs. What YI said about the GF is very true - his activity level is going to depend a lot on the game. Thus, I'm going to add my voice to his - you should be talking in this game, and you should be talking a lot. We force everyone out of hiding, and then we have a much better chance at catching the GF in a lie somewhere along the line. We should use the "vote for inactives" early game policy not as a method to kill people, but as a way to force inactives to talk. We should lynch anyone actively caught lying to town, as they are immediately made the most suspicious. Above all, we should continue to talk. And by "talk", I don't mean a bunch of oneliners or morse code. I mean contribute, dammit. As Ace has said, the best scum players don't contribute while appearing that they actually do. Given that the two best mafia players on the site aren't in this game (although one is hosting), it's possible that we might be able to catch people saying nothing, or catch them slipping up. Summary: post, post content, vote for inactives to force them to be active, go for sure bets over big gambles, and post content. PS: Korynne, still waiting on that explanation for why you contradicted yourself about me. | ||
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And I wasn't that serious Just trying to spark discussion/wondering. | ||
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Plus, we can roleblock someone twice in a row, so there's no reason not to keep them alive at least once and then roleblock them again. | ||
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On July 01 2010 13:47 DarthThienAn wrote: If you mean me, I think you give me too much credit. I go by what I've seen, man | ||
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This is all still assuming there's a roleblocker in the game, obviously. I've decided your idea is worth trying at least on night 1. If it fails, then it fails, and we don't do it again. | ||
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On June 27 2010 03:34 DarthThienAn wrote: Roleblocker You have the ability to prevent a player from performing a night action. You must inform me of your roleblock target before the night begins, and your target will be blocked for that night. Your target will be informed that they have been role blocked only if they can perform a night action. You may not roleblock the same player more than twice in a row. You do not lose your ability upon recruitment. Au contraire  | ||
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On July 01 2010 13:58 Korynne wrote: Oh shit my bad, it says can't do so more than twice in a row. We'll have to clarify with Darth whether he means can't do so twice in a row or can't do so more than twice in a row. If it is in fact can't do so more than twice in a row then I agree with your plan. Why would we have to clarify? It seems pretty clear cut to me in the role post. | ||
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On July 01 2010 14:06 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I don't like this idea. The 2 masons are going to be a thorn in the mafia's side until they die. Giving one of them up only gives us the benefit of having a confirmed townie who can do... what? We should use our collective thoughts to out the mafia, not a single person. Now, if it looks like a mason is going to be lynched, the mason should definitely role claim... if a mafioso is doing this, one of the real masons will come out and say it which would be a good trade. I agree with AFJ. Nobody should roleclaim, at least yet. It just creates targets only for the benefit of having one less person in the lynchpool. Also, come on, guys, I said it already. Lovers are recruitable. Having them roleclaim means jack shit. | ||
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Lovers. Can. Get. Recruited. | ||
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On July 01 2010 16:36 Bill Murray wrote: Hey, being "minimally likely" is better than "no fucking chance". The way you've been posting this game, I would recruit you. Is that a compliment?  But I'm slightly confused. You have this awesome big long post responding to a bunch of people, including MAJORLY pointing FoS at Korynne... then you decide to lynch A5J for a jeep tell, saying he's the only obvious scumtell so far? Wut? | ||
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Korynne vs. BM feels a lot like Ace vs. BM from last game... we know how that one turned out. Korynne's playing has been a bit scummy (she held on to her (fundamentally flawed) plan for WAY too long, then latched on to my slightly better idea when it came out, she's spamming up the thread by arguing with BM, she hasn't really been all that helpful), but this play strikes me as more traitor play than mafia play, coming from her. It's possible she is mafia, but she plays a better scum than this, so I'm calling ##Traitor: Korynne for right now. And honestly, traitor isn't worth lynching (yet): once we figure out who they are, we can safely ignore them. I can see arguments for lynching traitor day 1 instead of gambling that we get godfather day 1. Thoughts? People have thrown around Korynne, L, BM, and YellowInk as possible GF or mafia candidates. These guys are the 4 most active players in the thread, I'm less inclined to believe that these guys are, as it would be much easier for a GF to not place him/herself under all this scrutiny, and post just often enough to not be suspicious. By the same token, it's probably not BrowneY, ElyAs, or any of the other inactives (whats up with BrowneY not having access to this thread? Weak.) BM is playing his usual self: scummy, but probably townie. I'm going to say BM: Town for now, and keep an eye on him - if I notice any shift in his playstyle, that will be a good tell that he was recruited. L is active (less active than usual though, wut?), and has given me no cause to doubt him yet. L: Town If you are wondering why I'm being so generous with the town calls, it's because I can: about 85% of us are town. Come Day 2 or 3, I'll be less generous with calling people townies. As far as who I think we should roleblock tonight... I'm leaning either YellowInk (his posting isn't quite up to standard and he's more lurkerish than usual, plus if we're wrong, oh well, it's night 1), or possibly Chez (he's who I would have recruited last night, now that I think about it. He's actually a very devious mafia player, as he just acts normally and everyone dismisses it as normal Chez behavior. It doesn't mean he lives through the game, but it does mean he's a good candidate for early/mid game play. Also, I don't know if this was mentioned before, but in addition to roleblocking someone, we should jail them. The way I see it, Jailing them blocks recruitment, so GF can't touch them. It does NOT block roleblocks, so the roleblock will go through, and then if a mafia member (even a jailed one) is roleblocked, mafia lose their KP. Simple, yet effective. Unless I misread the rules. Thoughts? Finally, it's great that ElyAs posted, but I need moar activite from him before I change my vote, specifically because this day 1 vote is even more of a crapshoot than usual, and I don't want to take a chance on an active player, in case we're wrong. So ElyAs: MOAR ACTIVITY! MOAR! Also, it's wrong to vote for BrowneY. Dude can't even read the thread yet, give him a break. | ||
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On July 02 2010 10:03 Bill Murray wrote: then I get brownbear claiming i'm spamming and worthless now, when i have been scumhunting more than anyone. Hey now, don't put words in my mouth. I never said you were worthless, in fact I said I consider you one of the better mafia players on this site. Your level of activity is awesome, it's just some of your posts have been abrasive and/or scummy. Chillax dude, no offense was meant, I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way | ||
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Also, guys, too much paranoia around zeks being mason. I'll say this once: IF YOU KNOW ZEKS ISN'T MASON (as in, you are), CLAIM NOW. Come on, mafia isn't going to pull a dumb stunt like that on day 1 when there's only one of him, and the GF sure as hell isn't going to try. | ||
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(Posting from airport, lol) | ||
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##Vote: YellowInk | ||
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So I got stuck at immigration lines for over an hour today because I was missing one sheet of paper that ended up not even being necessary. Go figure. I'm in Vancouver now :D Also, ElyAs dead, claimed townie - d'oh. Shit. At the same time, especially in this setup, day 1 lynch is such a crapshoot, better to lynch a nonactive than someone who will contribute later. Also, whats the details on Browney? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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1) Roleblocker roleblocks YI 2) Jailer Jails YI This way, YI, if he's town, can't be recruited. Also, if YI is mafia, his night hit will be blocked. Someone will still be recruited, but nobody will die. Thoughts? | ||
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So, now this begs the question: Who do we lynch today? | ||
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And Coroner. Motherfucker. I voted for myself as a placeholder just in case of an emergency where I can't reach my computer. I'm working 17 hour days at the moment, so it's a possibility. Let's get some discussion going. To start out, Divinek: bumatlarge gf? Bumatlarge: Leaving and throwing random vote on Chez? Wtf? | ||
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Honestly, without coroner I think we might be screwed. | ||
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But it is time to give up on that idea. I think at this point, there's no doubt zeks is mason. However, I really do want him to post that friggin coded message already. | ||
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Can we stop yelling at each other over this please? | ||
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Take Ace, for example. Especially after his how-to-play-scum thread, I would be very surprised if the GF does not recruit him soon. We should probably take necessary precautions, unless Korynne was recruited already and he inherited that. | ||
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On July 05 2010 12:29 YellowInk wrote: After reviewing the list of participants, Abenson has still provided the least useful content. Since he has not provided enough content to figure out if he's turned to mafia, if he were recruited he would be difficult or impossible to reveal by post analysis. I havn't been able to find anything that indicates someone was turned. Yet. So in the absence of something directly indicating red, my vote is going for Abenson. On the flip side, what GF in their right mind would recruit Abenson? In normal games he's a liability for town, but in a recruitment game he might actually be an asset. | ||
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On July 05 2010 15:14 Bill Murray wrote: Generic comments Excuse for not being here and lurking Summary of last couple posts Plz explain, BrownBear... Lack of reading, or scumminess? You have proven to me earlier that you don't read every post. Job as a camp counselor. Working from 7 AM to 11 or midnight most days. Sometimes I just don't have the time to read everything, so I skim what doesn't look important. Sorry. Also, neither blue nor red. Green. | ||
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Having a second Coroner is far far better than we could have ever dreamed. What might happen... 1: L or bum will pop red. If L pops red, Abenson is likely cleared for now + the lover story carries more weight. If bum pops red... that's cool :D 2: L or bum pop green/blue. If L pops blue we gotta take a better look at Abenson, because then he could actually know something we didnt. If bum pops green/blue... dammit. Bum did claim townie (after claiming godfather lolz), so we should check that. If L pops lover (which could happen, DTA did say he wouldnt modkill lover pairs), or if nothing pops, we should block divinek and Abenson for the rest of the game. If we have 2 confirmed scum, we can shut mafia down indefinitely while we continue our GF witchhunt. Jailkeep: Protect whichever one you think is more likely to get killed. Roleblockers, if you block them you are dumb, dumb dumb. And tomorrow: I really do think mass roleclaim is a good idea. With the information we get from the coroner-pop (hopefully), we should be able to figure out at least who mafia is, so we can roleblock them, and if we're lucky we'll nail the GF on day 3. That would be kind of awesome. To start the mass roleclaim (because I don't know how much time I have), I am TOWNIE. | ||
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Also, YI... cult game = we gotta do the mass roleclaim much earlier. You weren't around for 3 kingdoms mafia, but the mass roleclaim essentially won the game for town. | ||
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Tomorrow, it will be 8 to 4 barring a very lucky roleblock. If we don't lynch a scum, when the next day rolls around, it will be 6 to 5. That's bad. Very bad. We need as much information as possible, and we need it right now. | ||
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On July 07 2010 08:46 DarthThienAn wrote: Me too! I can't wait to see what roles the dead people are. keke Lol so this is confirmation that Divinek is townie? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On July 07 2010 11:08 youngminii wrote: I am DT. citi.zen is GF. OH SNAP. Buying this. youngminii hasn't really given any reasons to do it. Let's do iiiit. | ||
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On July 07 2010 11:37 BrownBear wrote: Buying this. youngminii hasn't really given any reasons for us to doubt him. Let's do iiiit. ebwop above. | ||
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Youve been fingered as GF, you lie, means you're GF. We lynch you now ok bye. | ||
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There have been 3 recruitements We know one of them (L) is dead. We (hopefully) are killing the GF today. That leaves 2 mafia to 11 town. We have all the time in the world. Why would we double lynch unless we were absolutely sure we could nail both scum in one turn and end the game? I don't think it's possible given the current information we have. Speaking of information: citi.zen said BM was town = heavy heavy suspicion on BM now L said Abenson was scum = Abenson is probably town (barring citibank recruiting him last night). Pretty good start, I think. | ||
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On July 07 2010 12:21 Bill Murray wrote: shut up a5j you scummy fuck You are flailing so hard it's not even funny. You don't play this bad, BM. You are definitely scum. | ||
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On July 07 2010 12:30 Bill Murray wrote: shut the fuck up brownbear, i'm a fucking jailkeeper Manner up and calm the fuck down. You are being a total asshole right now, and honestly, it's not called for. Take 5, walk away from the thread, then post a coherent defense post, longer than 1 line, and I'll listen. Until then, I'm going to just let you rage. | ||
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Personally, I'm thinking he is town. | ||
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On July 07 2010 12:39 Ace wrote: DCLXVI And now we have pretty good reason to believe DCL is town. I'm assuming Ace was DT or something similar, given he just joined the game so doesn't really have much to go on. | ||
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On July 07 2010 12:40 Bill Murray wrote: now everyone else needs to roleclaim to protect the fact that i roleclaimed as jailkeeper you all are safe, as i will be targetted 100% i am our medic, after all and if NOONE COUNTERCLAIMS then im the only jailkeeper Sadly, mafia is probably not going to kill you tonight. All they have to do is hit someone, then we lynch you for still being alive. This is assuming you're jailkeep of course, which I'm still somewhat doubtful about (sorry, but the fact that citi.zen lied in a post where he said you were town is a bit damning.) | ||
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On July 07 2010 12:44 YellowInk wrote: Ace was roleblocker. Please read thread. ^^ Woops. Missed that bit. Durr ^^ | ||
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Also, I think BM would be a better roleblock target tonight than youngminii, simply because he's under a lot more suspicion currently. We can even keep him alive an extra day and roleblock him again if nobody dies tonight, thus saving us 2 nights of deaths. Either scum willingly gives up 2 nightkills just to kill BM (which I would be okay with) or we actually have caught scum. I see a win-win situation here... | ||
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On July 07 2010 13:07 rastaban wrote: 2. In this post he doesn't push for a double lynch. I think the mafia would need to utilize this play to force a double lynch to make it viable. Without it they are sacrificing 2 mafia for little gain. Doublelynch is absolutely in the interest of mafia right now. At least 1 of them is still pretty under the radar, they want us to use it so that they can possibly take out 2 town without having to do that much work. | ||
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BM: Jail youngminii 2nd jailkeep (if there is one): Jail BM Young: rolecheck BM roleblocker: don't roleblock either of them please If youngminii dies, we know BM is lying. youngminii can tell us what his results are the next day. If BM dies during the night... then so it goes. Tomorrow, we gotta reread everything citi.zen's said all game, see if we can catch any scummy-looking gentlemen based off who he backs/opposes. | ||
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YellowInk's plan sounds like a solid plan, in the case we are extremely lucky or Darth was awesome and gave us 3 coroners. However, we shouldn't really be planning for these longshot circumstances, we should be planning for what's most likely. In that vein, Hesmyrr has some great ideas and a good solid summary of the last 7 pages or so, so I highly recommend you read that, especially those of you prone to skimming/ignoring the thread sometimes (coughcoughChezcoughcoughAbensoncoughcoughme) Also, mass roleclaim is no longer necessary, given the information we got last night. | ||
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On July 08 2010 02:02 citi.zen wrote: Too bad I made such a big mistake. Must be more careful next time... It's how you learn. I make a huge mistake every couple games or so ^^ | ||
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On July 08 2010 03:43 YellowInk wrote: You? Never... T_T But seriously, though. Mistakes happen. Generally to me. Are we for sure roleblocking youngminii tonight? I'm still not convinced that he's a better target than BM is. | ||
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BM... why. | ||
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My feeling is that you've been stifling discussion by overloading the thread with one-liners. I know it's your style for the most part to double-triple post a lot, but it's gotten ridiculously out of hand over the last day, so I'm pretty sure that's why people are complaining that you are stifling discussion. I'm sorry if you actually are telling the truth, but it's very hard for me to believe you after what has happened today. You said that your jailkeep roleclaim was fake, but you held onto the fake roleclaim for waaaaay too long, which makes me suspicious. A lot of this feels like you playing mafia exactly the way Ace said to - now that you've been outed, you aren't really helping the town at all, you are spamming up the thread, you are keeping people focused on you and citi to keep scum hunting to a minimum... I'm sorry, man. I know you play scummy, but all the right pieces are in place, it's just too much to ignore or brush off (and we shouldn't be just brushing it off anyway). I'm still a little confused as to why you think double lynch is a good idea as well. With the GF hopefully lynched tonight (there is still the youngminii/citi.zen scum option, but I find that unlikely), there will be only 2 scum left in the game, to 12 or 13 town. Given those odds, it's far more likely we hurt ourselves with a double lynch than win the game outright, unless you know something we don't... plz respond, and I didn't ever mean to offend you. Like I said, I'm glad you're still taking this game seriously. | ||
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On July 08 2010 14:29 flamewheel wrote: BrownBear: I have a key registered to a spoof account if you want it. Nah, I have a key, it's just I'm working 17 hours a day, and I have to keep myself from it until I'm done (which is pretty much when it comes out anyway). Thanks though! | ||
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BrownBear
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On July 08 2010 15:11 Bill Murray wrote: I'll die in the night. I'm jailing Hesmyrr tonight. You've gone from jailkeep roleclaim to vet roleclaim back to jailkeep roleclaim. | ||
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I'm curious to see citi.zen's death post lololol. | ||
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On July 09 2010 17:49 Chezinu wrote: Dear BrownBear, Tick Tock. On the clock, but the party don't stop now oh ooh oh ooh oh oh oh ooh oh ooh oh oh No, but seriously, wut? | ||
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BrownBear
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And obviously this makes me scum. | ||
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On July 10 2010 07:48 Bill Murray wrote: Plz explain. If you say "because chez said so" I will slap you. | ||
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BrownBear
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BM - don't worry about it man. It's just a game. | ||
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On July 10 2010 16:47 Bill Murray wrote: Player List: Scummy/Lynchable: BloodyC0bbler - where the hell has he been? DCLXVI - lurking and inactive or unnoticeable for me AcrossFiveJulys - has been attacking me all game, and more scummy recently rastaban - hasn't done anything pro-town since day 1 Neutral: BrownBear - has been a little bit scummier lately, but maybe town Chezinu - too crazy to get a read on, but i don't want to lynch him Kinda innocent: zeks - mason with someone, likely A5J or Chezinu YellowInk - very pro-town play, other than his hatin' on me BrownBear - has been a little bit scummier lately, but probably town Likely innocents: Bill Murray - I'm the damn jailer, son Hesmyrr - Jailed him 2 nights in a row youngminii - Jailed him last night, and he DT checked me I've been scummier recently? How so? The only way my playstyle has changed is that I've started questioning you for some of your play choices, which nobody can deny are pretty questionable. Also, you have me up there twice On July 10 2010 17:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Chez/brownbear/yellowink would make good choices however. Out of the three though, brown bear is the least active compared to what I have seen as his regular style, so if we have to vote on BM's list of 4, BB gets my vote. Sorry, dude, I've been working 16 hour days, so I don't have as much time to check mafia as normal. Although, I'm on BM's list as either "neutral" or "kinda innocent" (maybe somewhere in between), so either you're using a different list than me, or I'm missing something. Oh wait, actually, I think I see it. Are you using this list? On July 10 2010 17:32 Bill Murray wrote: well, citi.zen was going for "the best" players if he recruited L early.. yellowink/brownbear/chezinu/bc are the only people i could see him recruiting cross-reference this with my assessment of everyone, and BC is the one on both lists therefore, i am voting bloodyc0bbler, but not double-lynch. If you are, disregard my confusion On July 11 2010 04:39 YellowInk wrote: Well, since this thread is dead, and the appointed time has come (and no coroner has claimed), I'm going to finger BrownBear. I like him as the n2 recruit. Compare his early game post quality to his more recent behavior. He has posted a great deal throughout the game, but of late the number of places where he takes a significant opinion or provides productive input to the town has sharply declined. The difference is like night and day. I started on last Sunday, which corroborates pretty perfectly with when I stopped posting as much, does that clear it up for you? Also, BM - you were right, I was wrong. I'm willing to believe you are town, and I'm sorry. | ||
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BrownBear
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I have voted for you pending you proving to me that you aren't, or someone else proving that a third party IS scum. If there's any confusion as to whether or not I'm scum, then just have youngminii rolecheck me tonight. I promise you you won't find anything. | ||
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On July 11 2010 07:26 Bill Murray wrote: @ BrownBear: what are you sorry for, not being town? For being kind of a dick to you the last voting cycle, sorry bro :/ | ||
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On July 12 2010 02:09 Hesmyrr wrote: Oh that's true, I don't think presence of Chezinu and delayed double lynch don't change much though. 9-2 Bill Murray killed. 7-2 [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 3 living three players youngminii killed. 4-1 [TOWN] 5 zeks, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 1 living one players Town lock. == Worst case scenario where Mad Hatter has placed both of his bombs on Town side == Before mafia hit, Chezinu switches one of his bomb on Town side to "Town or Mafia" side. Chenizu and DT also announce their targets to prevent stacking, so DT don't end up investigating player with the bomb. Mafia hit Chenizu. In worst case scenario, Jailkeeper (not DT since Chezinu CAN move one bomb) and one "Town or Mafia" blows up. Let us assume second mason claim and one player claims mason. There are 5 TOWN OR MAFIA players. One is lynched today. Chezinu is killed. One gets blown up. One gets investigated. [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 1 One living player Since double lynch, kill final living player and Hesmyrr for the town lock. This. I'm going to say regardless of who we lynch tonight, youngminii shold DT check either me or YellowInk (if YI survives the lynchphase) - me because I'm starting to attract suspicion, I am townie, and I don't want to die (selfish play, perhaps, but I also don't want town to waste a lynch on me), or YI because he's acting the most scummy ATM, but I know he's been very active and I don't want to lose his ability to keep the thread moving unless he absolutely is mafia. | ||
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BrownBear
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On July 12 2010 03:54 Chezinu wrote: The bomb has already chosen its target. The target hasn't prove himself innocent nor made an attempt. It's funny that people took the list I made of suspects and added me to it. Question: How is zeks confirmed? Mason claim Day 1 that was uncontested, meaning that he must logically be mason. | ||
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BrownBear
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Can we have this happen, actually? At this point, it's not like they're priority targets for scum. | ||
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On July 12 2010 05:32 zeks wrote: Theres no point in wasting a DT check one of us thats just wasting our limited DT checks. In fact I think I'm just as confirmed as BM/Hesmyrr if not more. The 2nd mason will unlock the message with the key I've given him. If that doesn't satisfy all of you we can do it any way you want. Issue of whether there are masons or not: Would mafia bet on there be no masons this game and claim early on to gain "permanent" immunity? That's retarded. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Any idea when the second mason will unlock your message, or are you just waiting for him to sign on? | ||
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Death post in just a second: | ||
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Bearies coming later tonight. | ||
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