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On June 23 2010 02:06 YellowInk wrote: It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game. If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use. Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else. Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ?I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. | ||
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On June 23 2010 02:25 YellowInk wrote: Yes. You’re going to need to stop muddying the waters with your code if you want me to reply to you. Why are you calling me an article of clothing? What is a yellow turban supposed to mean? I think my posts are doing a decent job of drawing out scummy accusations. People are generating suspicion based on my words. At this point, I don’t actually believe you have a red read on me. I don’t know if that means you’re red yourself or just trying to draw something out of me that might actually give you a red read. That being said, the coded messages are obnoxious. Knock it off. I want to be able to go back and reread the thread without having memorized or kept notes or retranslate every single code that you and your buddy decide to post. All they do is muddy the water – something scummy players love to do when they can make it appear innocuous. Nice try at trying to shake your mud off and put it on me -- it's not going to work. You are in line with your scum meta this game, and since you've come into the spotlight, i will not let you out of it or you are gone, lynched, donzo. period. by taking the spotlight like you did you are either anti town who will not stay in the spotlight and are going to be lynched or you are going to help the town by staying in the spotlight you have created for yourself. as to people who dislike encoding messages, i do not specifically see where we cannot communicate with other pro town members in the thread. i'm sure the people who are complaining (radfield and korynnes team, and team 5) are actually the teams likely to be mafia from my perspective, which is why they're complaining. Newer players, notice how YellowInk has no logical argument towards me so he has to use colors with his posts to back up his weakness? | ||
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On June 23 2010 03:19 YellowInk wrote: This isn't a noob game. I'm not about to run to the mountaintops screaming "I'm town I'm town!" and expect it to hold any weight. Also, the game isn't large enough to even consider this kind of strategy even if it were a noob game. It's very kind of you to not bandwagon me just yet. It does make you sound a little less bloodthirsty, no? I fear you will not like my response. While your thoughts here are fair that we need to get on with targeting people for lynching, you propose a truly awful strategy. First, a 9 player game can last about 4 days. Essentially what you are suggesting is that the DT not reveal until the endgame. While this can be a decent idea, it really entirely depends on the circumstances. If the DT finds a townie and says X is a townie on day 2, this can be very helpful depending on the setup. The mafia can only kill one person. I don’t think the DT should do this sort of thing unless person X or the DT is about to get hung, though. Once the DT comes out, they’re either going to get hit or roleblocked the following night. This brings me to the second point in your strategy. You talk about a medic protecting the DT. If there is both a medic and a DT in the game, the mafia will know it because they have a roleblocker. In such a case, the mafia would almost surely roleblock the DT to prevent any further info gathering and kill someone else in hopes to hit the medic. This renders the DT wholly ineffective and the medic, at best, is on their own. This is the purpose of the existence of the mafia roleblocker. The way this is all presented makes me think that you already know these things and furthermore that you have a roleblocker on your team. I’ll be opening up my voting by casting it for Bumatlarge. Wow. Lynch this guy. First, the mafia won't know shit if they have a roleblocker They can have a roleblocker while we have 7 townies, they don't know anything WE can also not be sure to have a detective at all I was about to take my vote off of you, but the way you are acting, it is staying there for the rest of the game. Also, advising DT not to go to lategame is ill informed in my opinion as well. Every DT messup i've ever really seen has occurred by the DT revealing too early I also dislike the negative near-omgus you are directing towards bumatlarge. While his play may be scummy scummy play doesn't always = scum. I am not saying carry him into a lynch or lose scenario, but that he is not acting nearly as scummy as other people, namely you. | ||
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On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote: BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator. If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? | ||
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On June 23 2010 03:27 YellowInk wrote: I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though. Is my last post logical enough for your tastes? @BM I think I was pretty clear that I wasn't shaking mud on you. I'm not sure why you continue to place heat on me unreasonably. That you persist in this fashion is sketchy, but I've known players with your style before and it's fine. The fact that you are continuously getting heat from me is because your play is deteriorating are you are completely misinterpreting the setup and passing along heinously wrong information to the players who are uninformed. I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though. How is you misinterpreting the thread and trying to push forward anti-town and negative ideas CONTRIVED? It isn't. You are my #1 scum candidate. A second reason is your OMGUS vote of Bumatlarge after the RVS in which this shit shouldn't be allowed to happen. You are approaching the point where you will be lynched by the better players for sheer policy. Either way you look at it, if you back off the spotlight, or continue to make mistakes, you will go from FoS to being hammered by someone. | ||
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On June 23 2010 04:56 Korynne wrote: So there seems to be a bandwagon starting on YellowInk. I don't like it very much... Mainly because I believe that YellowInk is relatively easy to read, so I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble dealing with him in the later days as we would some other people *cough*L*cough*Chezinu*cough*. So I would definitely favour lynching a group of inactives or someone hard to read over lynching YellowInk. Those are my two cents on the matter. I WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE A TRAIN ON YOUR SCUM BUDDY LOL | ||
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On June 23 2010 04:59 YellowInk wrote: Durak, please don't get us modkilled. No edits. Ever.  @OMGUS idea: My voting for bumatlarge was not OMGUS. Once bumatlarge made the post I quoted I was almost assuredly going to vote for him on it. I waited a bit and was hoping someone else would call him out on it first as I would feel more confident that they are town - assuming bumatlarge does, in fact, turn up red. it was definitely an omgus. you voted for him literally right after he voted for you. it is omgus regardless of when you decided to do it. you are scummy regardless of if you are scum, which i am leaning towards On June 23 2010 05:03 YellowInk wrote: Chezinu has posted quite a bit but not a single thing of merit. The most content he posted was the video on being unreadable. It sure is easy to be unreadable when you don't post any content. Chez, you going to join BM's attack on me or do you have opinions of your own? Sorry you're so lonely, but I'm not going to talk Morse to you. Honestly there is a whole lot of inactivity in this thread. The list is long. This disturbs me greatly. Basically along post complaining "I'm actively lurking like scum", why don't you all do the same and hide my mafia-like behavior? On June 23 2010 05:39 YellowInk wrote: Are you saying posting nonsense is an effective way to play a blue role? How about green? If so, I am sorely disappointed. I don't think it makes you scum - I know you've been in enough games to have your own opinions about such. However it does may make you a useless town aligned role if you're NOT scum. Fortunately BM is posting a great deal of content. Unfortunately it is mostly wharrgarbl as well. If you're blue and playing this way, well that really sucks. At any rate, I'm still undecided on the BM/Chez team. They do make me laugh, but that's probably because it's the first game I've played with them. You're saying I'm posting whargarrbl when you're omgus and trying to derail the thread from proper scumhunting... FURTHERMORE, you are also attacking my solely because I am attacking you. You fail to scumhunt someone other than your attacker, which is another form of OMGUS. Your arguments with me are beginning to appear town on town to me, though, so if you are mafia you are doing better than you were previously. On June 23 2010 05:43 LaXerCannon wrote: I believe we shouldn't vote off useless people unless it's to the point that it hinders the town's progress. That being said, they're next to go if we can't get any good behavioral analysis. To the possible Medic/DT: My advice is to stay unpredictable. Don't do too much analysis to the point where you're a threat and don't lay too low that you get killed. For the possible DT: I think checking the teams of three would be a good start as one of them flipping red would mean the rest of the team flipping red (unless I've misinterpreted the rules) Ace just wants the only people who actually scumhunt to be offed... plus after what Chezinu did to him in mini mafia III i don't blame him for hating chez for the last 8 months. zing | ||
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radfield, is it wrong to vote someone who acts scummy when you KNOW they are town or townie? Yes, it is. You know this. If it wasn't then half of teamliquid would deserve policy lynching. | ||
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On June 23 2010 10:45 BrownBear wrote: Yass, I am back! I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] + On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote: since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote: you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote: oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html and it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today. Brownbear:+ Show Spoiler + -... .-. --- .-- -. -... . .- .-. --..-- .-- .... . -. -.-- --- ..- ... .- -.-- -.-. --- -. ...- .. -. -.-. . -.. - .... . -- -.-- --- ..- .-- . .-. . - --- .-- -. --..-- .- -. -.. -.-. .-.. .- .. -- . -.. ... --- - .... .- - - .... . -- .- ..-. .. .- .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. .... .. - -.-- --- ..- --..-- -... ..- - - .... . -- . -.. .. -.-. -.-. --- ..- .-.. -.. .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - -.-- --- ..- --..-- - .... ..- ... .-- .- ... - .. -. --. .- -- .- ..-. .. .- -.- .--. --..-- .- .-. . -.-- --- ..- - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- .--- --- .. -. --- ..- .-. - --- .-- -. -.-. .. .-. -.-. .-.. . -... -.-- -.-. .... . -.-. -.- .. -. --. --- ..- .-. .- .-.. .. --. -. -- . -. - --..-- --- .-. -.-. .-.. .- .. -- .. -. --. - --- .-- -. .. . --..-- --- .-. .- .-. . -.-- --- ..- - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ... ..--.. | ||
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On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote: L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos | ||
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On June 23 2010 11:16 Ace wrote: well yes if someone is always known for revenge voting it may be a null tell but it also means they should probably be at the top of the suspect list. Also it depends on the nature of the vote: If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty. Also there isn't that much information flowing around. A lot of it is people poking holes around to see what people say. Like L claiming my team or Radfield's team must be Mafia because his top target sucks: thats ridiculous logic. I'm not sure if it's obnoxious L being sincere or he's faking it but either way it's dumb. If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty. I'll keep that in mind, as I didn't ever understand why people would vote for me when acting like an idiot in this way. I figured that AtE wasn't really a bad thing if used properly, but you make me see the broader picture here tbh. I would say that it's just him analyzing things from his perspective. Noone really know what is going through L's head... On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote: Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. You're wrong! I wasn't fishing at all.  On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote: I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. "I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right." LOL. On June 23 2010 11:27 L wrote: Oh, silly me, Top of the page darth comes out too. That makes all 4 of you. Connect 4! lol L if you're not going to go into law you should go into comedy and i say that in all seriousness not the over-used cliche-style joke On June 23 2010 11:28 DarthThienAn wrote: How is that random? It's based on the fact that you voted to lynch L straight off with absolutely no possible evidence or logical reasoning, other than the idea that L has the potential to lead us to our death. So does Bill Murray. So does Chezinu, to some extent. Other people might - but why not those other two, for example? Why L? Eh, I don't know who Nikon is at all, my bad xD. MooCow is pretty new isn't he? I thought XXVII was his first game, making two games total. But okay, fair enough. I will admit that the last time I played in a setup like this I disrailed the thread by pushing the lynches of two town-on-town argumentees i was going up against (flamewheel and kf91). If you'll notice, though, I have learned from my bad-play and am not pushing further for YellowInk's head to be hung (because I realize I am not the one who should be deciding anymore, and that there is a likelihood of it being town on town....) THAT being said, we need to lynch someone. I know that you all are going to look down upon this, but to me i have a 25% chance to lynch another team and have them turn up scum... my team to me isnt scum unless chezinu got the role pm that he was brown and didn't tell me... otherwise we are definitely with the town/townies. in that case, 1/4 of you other teams are mafia, which is where we get the 25% chance of a random hit on mafia... we cannot risk not lynching SOMEONE right now. If we hit that 25% chance and it's 7/8 people town-aligned then we nearly have the game won already. We can't afford to not have that and have a no-lynch or whatever. I don't expect that, nor do I have that good of targets other than that Zyrre guy.. but he may just be bad. what do you better players think of who we should lynch? | ||
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On June 23 2010 11:30 Ace wrote: So you accuse people of possibly being scum, they address your argument so therefore something must be fishy? Explain this more. Also you can't assume the host balanced teams. If that's the case then you and Caller would just as likely be Scum if we're going by experience and some level of skill here. It also hinges on the fact that YI/Durak have to flip red. If they don't then your entire argument falls to shambles and we've seen that happen before. @Ace: did you view the argument with YI being town on town earlier? | ||
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On June 23 2010 12:40 Ace wrote: I'm scumhunting. I already said I don't believe BM/Chez to be townies. If that's not a blatant accusation along with my matching vote in the thread I don't know what game you're reading. you're wrong on this one buddy | ||
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I don’t quite understand your plan here, BM. If you weren’t fishing, then what were you doing? See: Sarcasm the wise L sayeth haters going to hate | ||
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On June 23 2010 13:42 DarthThienAn wrote: L, it's in sixths bro. Chez's got it straight. Anyway. Since he claims he wasn’t fishing… Bill Murray Current Vote: Team 7 (along with his partner, Chezinu), changed from Team 5 (more specifically, YellowInk) Posts: 22, but he’s a fan of double-posting and triple-posting and all that. + Show Spoiler + Any posts that I skip should be considered useless. On June 22 2010 15:07 Bill Murray wrote: putting pressure on a 3 man team would therefore put more pressure on them as it would give us information from 3 people. for that reasoning, considering it is the RV stage, we should probably be more apt to randomly vote for a 3 person team to create 33% more pressure hmm, not a bad idea (who cares about the math – 50% more pressure isn’t it?). Surprising that he started on YellowInk then, rather than a 3 person team? From johnnyspazz: On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote: Chezinu, who are we going to protect? On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote: I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote: I would say protect ace, korynne is likely scum major f.o.s. On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote: Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect Hmm… they know that it’s possible for this to be read. So they are either making themselves targets, legitimately don’t think they’re allowed to PM, or are trying to screw up the town. I lean toward the last one because that’s what they always do. On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote: since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. All that’s saying here is that he thinks YellowInk is scum, based on the fact that YellowInk appears to be town. … I think I’ve said before that I don’t see the logic there. On June 23 2010 03:14 Bill Murray wrote: Nice try at trying to shake your mud off and put it on me -- it's not going to work. You are in line with your scum meta this game, and since you've come into the spotlight, i will not let you out of it or you are gone, lynched, donzo. period. by taking the spotlight like you did you are either anti town who will not stay in the spotlight and are going to be lynched or you are going to help the town by staying in the spotlight you have created for yourself. as to people who dislike encoding messages, i do not specifically see where we cannot communicate with other pro town members in the thread. i'm sure the people who are complaining (radfield and korynnes team, and team 5) are actually the teams likely to be mafia from my perspective, which is why they're complaining. Newer players, notice how YellowInk has no logical argument towards me so he has to use colors with his posts to back up his weakness? So all you’re saying is that if YellowInk continues to stay in the spotlight, he’s town? Terrible logic. YellowInk stayed in the spotlight, but that doesn’t make him town. He just loves the spotlight. There’s no reason for him to jump into the spotlight if he’s mafia, but like you say later, he did this last game too, so this says nothing about him. And again, I don’t see a logical argument from you either… and YellowInk only accused you as a response, which is as typical of a townie as it is of a mafia player. On June 23 2010 03:20 Bill Murray wrote: Your play in this and xxvii or whichever one it was in have been differing. I do not take it as being evolution of your meta-game either. The way I am taking it is that you have a power role. Being fairly unfamiliar with your play, I am going to take my vote off of you for now, as you did seem to take the spotlight in the other game you were in (I had you confused with another player, Trezeguet23). I do note some differences in your play, though, as in the other game you seem to be a lot more joking while taking the spotlight. Hmm. Clarify by what you mean by “the way you are taking it”? He responded to you… he did that last game too, he responded directly to anyone who ever said anything about him. On June 23 2010 03:24 Bill Murray wrote: Wow. Lynch this guy. First, the mafia won't know shit if they have a roleblocker They can have a roleblocker while we have 7 townies, they don't know anything WE can also not be sure to have a detective at all I was about to take my vote off of you, but the way you are acting, it is staying there for the rest of the game. Also, advising DT not to go to lategame is ill informed in my opinion as well. Every DT messup i've ever really seen has occurred by the DT revealing too early I also dislike the negative near-omgus you are directing towards bumatlarge. While his play may be scummy scummy play doesn't always = scum. I am not saying carry him into a lynch or lose scenario, but that he is not acting nearly as scummy as other people, namely you. humm... again, I agree with a later claim in general for this setup. Not sure if the intensity you put into this is appropriate though... I don't think his roleblocker analysis is off though. In that paragraph, he's assuming we have a DT, and therefore the mafia would know if there's a medic or not based on whether or not they have a roleblocker. And it seems logical to me for the mafia to do such a thing, assuming roleblocker, medic, and DT are all in play (hit someone else, roleblock the DT). Otherwise, they straight up hit the DT. His accusation on bumatlarge is the same one that you make on him... zzz. On June 23 2010 03:25 Bill Murray wrote: + Show Spoiler + [Setup 2] - 1 Mafia Goon 1 Mafia Roleblocker 7 Townies I see why you posted this now… but it wasn’t really necessary. =P On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote: you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? lol. Accusations ftw? On June 23 2010 03:31 Bill Murray wrote: The fact that you are continuously getting heat from me is because your play is deteriorating are you are completely misinterpreting the setup and passing along heinously wrong information to the players who are uninformed. How is you misinterpreting the thread and trying to push forward anti-town and negative ideas CONTRIVED? It isn't. You are my #1 scum candidate. A second reason is your OMGUS vote of Bumatlarge after the RVS in which this shit shouldn't be allowed to happen. You are approaching the point where you will be lynched by the better players for sheer policy. Either way you look at it, if you back off the spotlight, or continue to make mistakes, you will go from FoS to being hammered by someone. Misinterpreting setup ~ possible intentional scum move. More often newbie move, nothing to lynch on. Hmm.. it’s interesting that he “OMGUS”’d bumatlarge. But he didn’t really do so without reason. So it’s not really OMGUS is it? I’ll buy that as a pink flag though. I don’t quite understand your plan here, BM. If you weren’t fishing, then what were you doing? You’re forcing YellowInk to post more, but also telling him that he needs to post more pro-town, which is what I think he was doing/trying to do. If you really think he’s mafia, why are you warning him? If you think he’s town, why are you still on his case? On June 23 2010 09:40 Bill Murray wrote: I WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE A TRAIN ON YOUR SCUM BUDDY LOL Lol, more accusing of Korynne. Where’s the backup for that? Basically along post complaining "I'm actively lurking like scum", why don't you all do the same and hide my mafia-like behavior? ? I’m pretty sure he was saying that he DIDN’T like the inactivity… You're saying I'm posting whargarrbl when you're omgus and trying to derail the thread from proper scumhunting... FURTHERMORE, you are also attacking my solely because I am attacking you. You fail to scumhunt someone other than your attacker, which is another form of OMGUS. Your arguments with me are beginning to appear town on town to me, though, so if you are mafia you are doing better than you were previously. Hummm, okay o_o. Laying off Yellow now, but saying his posts are crappy? I hope that’s the proper interpretation. Ace just wants the only people who actually scumhunt to be offed... Subtle. Real nice accusation =p. On June 23 2010 10:02 Bill Murray wrote: which is why im voting team 7 radfield, is it wrong to vote someone who acts scummy when you KNOW they are town or townie? Yes, it is. You know this. If it wasn't then half of teamliquid would deserve policy lynching. Okay, inactivity’s legit. But it’s not wrong to vote someone scummy when you KNOW they are town. It’s a form of fishing. But I guess, in your case, it is wrong.. -_- On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote: I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos Another soft accusation… why? Give me reasons, and don’t say, “he just looks scummy.” Well, you can say that, but back it up with posts/quotes. + Show Spoiler [recent lost post] + On June 23 2010 12:10 Bill Murray wrote: I'll keep that in mind, as I didn't ever understand why people would vote for me when acting like an idiot in this way. I figured that AtE wasn't really a bad thing if used properly, but you make me see the broader picture here tbh. I would say that it's just him analyzing things from his perspective. Noone really know what is going through L's head... You're wrong! I wasn't fishing at all. "I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right." LOL. lol L if you're not going to go into law you should go into comedy and i say that in all seriousness not the over-used cliche-style joke I will admit that the last time I played in a setup like this I disrailed the thread by pushing the lynches of two town-on-town argumentees i was going up against (flamewheel and kf91). If you'll notice, though, I have learned from my bad-play and am not pushing further for YellowInk's head to be hung (because I realize I am not the one who should be deciding anymore, and that there is a likelihood of it being town on town....) THAT being said, we need to lynch someone. I know that you all are going to look down upon this, but to me i have a 25% chance to lynch another team and have them turn up scum... my team to me isnt scum unless chezinu got the role pm that he was brown and didn't tell me... otherwise we are definitely with the town/townies. in that case, 1/4 of you other teams are mafia, which is where we get the 25% chance of a random hit on mafia... we cannot risk not lynching SOMEONE right now. If we hit that 25% chance and it's 7/8 people town-aligned then we nearly have the game won already. We can't afford to not have that and have a no-lynch or whatever. I don't expect that, nor do I have that good of targets other than that Zyrre guy.. but he may just be bad. what do you better players think of who we should lynch? @the last paragraph, because the rest idc about: yes, you’re right. We need to lynch someone. Why Zyrre though? Elaboratee plz. Conclusions so far: BM, you’re throwing a lot of unsupported accusations. I’ll buy the whole YellowInk argument as you thinking he’s mafia although I mostly don’t agree with your logic, but your accusations on Team 1, Ace, and Zyrre haven’t really been supported at all in your posts. You throwing around all of these accusations doesn’t help the town AT ALL unless you support it and give logical reasoning. It’s not that hard, unless you’re making a case that you don’t actually believe in (ie. you’re mafia). So either give me an explanation as to why you think all of the people I just listed are mafia, especially Ace =P, or consider yourself extremely suspicious for over-aggressiveness and an attempt to start multiple bandwagons. Furthermore, you're cluttering the thread with generally bad posts. The only thing saving you right now is, well, your spamming, but I won’t buy that for long, especially because I know it’s pretty easy for a mafia player to jump into the spotlight. Sup. Feel free to ask if my logic doesn't seem to be logic. Well, considering you're bringing up an argument which has been dead for pages in my opinion, i'll address this one last time. YellowInk was acting very scummy at the RVS for me, so I prodded him or needled him to see if he would argue with me. He did eventually. He had a very scummy sounding post in my opinion towards bumatlarge. That rekindled the suspicion I had had from the RVS. I am not sure if he is mafia, so I shifted my vote towards someone who has been actively lurking, Zyrre. I do not know his meta, so I am going to be keeping my vote on him for this until he proves me otherwise. I am not suspicious of Ace... I am even more suspicious of L than Ace, meaning both of them are near the bottom of my suspicious list. My analysis of Korynne and Radfield is that they're a power role. I do not know what power role they are. 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On June 23 2010 14:43 Durak wrote: Voting for team 7 because I agree with YI: we need to get inactives to post. Also, because I might get banned from TL. lol | ||
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On June 23 2010 12:16 Ace wrote: Your argument with YI? I viewed it as you (my strongest scum read so far) arguing with someone I don't have a read on. Only thing I could say about YI was he was trying to start discussion. just noticed this when re-reading over the thread. is there a term for when you want something to be so badly (you wanting me to be scum, and catch me) that you blindly try to create a scenario which doesn't exist? I will do what noone else is doing this game, and propose an actual plan to our lynch My proposal: lynch a team that has not cast the first vote on someone. "Who who is without sin cast the first stone" right? I am therefore going to assume that people who voted on other people as the first voters = town. Stacking votes = scummy. This may not be the case, but it is an interesting theory to me. So, we have the team list! Team List: 1. Radfield and Korynne 2. Bill Murray and Chezinu 3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge 4. Ace and DarthThienAn 5. Durak and YellowInk 6. L and Caller 7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple 8. stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear 9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek I started a vote, and I have information about my role pm as to my alliance, so i am cleared Team List: 1. Radfield and Korynne 3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge 4. Ace and DarthThienAn 5. Durak and YellowInk 6. L and Caller 7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple 8. stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear 9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek List of first votes: + Show Spoiler + On June 22 2010 16:00 Chezinu wrote: ##Vote Team 1 On June 22 2010 11:57 johnnyspazz wrote: ##Vote L On June 22 2010 12:22 L wrote: ##Vote johnnyspazz On June 23 2010 03:20 YellowInk wrote: ##Vote: bumatlarge On June 23 2010 13:44 DarthThienAn wrote: unvote ##Vote: Team 9 Team List: 1. Radfield and Korynne 3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge 7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple 9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Furthermore, Team 9 is split 3 ways. I don't know if this is inexperience or scumminess. They have someone voting for us, someone voting for slot 7, and someone abstaining. I am pretty sure I can dismiss them as VI. This leaves teams 7, 3, and 1. Since team 7 are voting with my team, and i know that we are not red, i am assuming they are either not scum or slot 7 isnt scum. To me this makes it either slot 3 or slot 7 that are scum, with me actually learning towards Zyrre for that post he made earlier seen here: On June 23 2010 05:20 Zyrre wrote: BM said several things that didn't make any sense, pointed out by YI. I will hold off on voting just yet. But that combined with him trying to get YI lynched means that im right now leaning towards him. his two other posts are in post 55 he is yet again worried about YI and in his first post, post 16, he is worried about the roleblocker's function in the setup with 7 townies. It makes me wonder... Team 3 I am completely unaware of, but bumatlarge did raise minor FoS from me earlier Team 1 has been very inactive. I cannot analyze Radfield for this as apparently he was inactive in his last game. Korynne is active, but a lot less than usual. No idea on my read on them, but they have yet to come up with their own idea on who to vote for which is scummy by my new theory I feel like the teams that sit back and/or jump on bandwagons are more likely to be scum I know that my team is not scum, and if we lynch one of these 4 teams I have highlighted, I guarantee we have a good chance of lynching scum, possibly higher than the 25% that could come from voting for a random team other than yourself with the information we have. | ||
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On June 23 2010 16:14 johnnyspazz wrote: i'm still waiting for the explanation of your coded messages with chez i met a guy named judge from mini mafia 3 i met him on a site called mafia scum his name is AGar "Ah I see. I stumbled in at the beginning of Jaedong/Flash (Bacchus OSL/GOMTV S4 MSL), but I watched the GOMTV Star Invite and saw Iris play. I am, but I'm not too active anymore - vx70GTOJudgexv I've kinda stopped following seriously." I decided to copy his medic claim to soak a mafia hit, but as we are sort of a target to be lynched, i'll admit that we are not a medic and were trying to help the down by pushing whoever (if we have any) are blue into a later game scenario... | ||
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On June 23 2010 16:15 Nikon wrote: I read the whole thread but this latest post catches my eye: ITT: Proposing an arbitrary method of quantifying the amount of scumness each team possesses in such a manner as to fit your OMGUS against Zyrre, and also to support lynching the target of "lynch the inactives" as well. But then again, you say yourself that team 1 has been very inactive so far - the same can be said for your team as well since a portion of your posts have been coded, then there's posts like this one, which are just grasping at straws, and then there's posts like Which is just blatantly wrong. Your numbers are off, and even if they weren't, they're based off an assumption that's not entirely verifiable. Moreover You guarantee us that something might happen? Shit, I guarantee you that it might rain tomorrow in Arizona. I like how both you and YellowInk deal a preemptive strike at me, clearly if team 7 suddenly shows up after all the inactivity, that's a scumtell. How is it an OMGUS when he voted for me just like an hour ago? I've been saying this guy is scummy for like 20 hours. I don't care if you show up, your buddy on your team is scummy. If you really read my post you would see that I am advocating lynching one of 4 teams, not just yours. I am advocating lynching a team without someone who has voted first. I picked yours because I have reasons not to pick the other ones. Team 9 are split, Team 1 are inactive, and I feel like Team 3 are probably newer players. Your team doesn't have a real excuse for your scumminess and lack of voting someone first which makes me feel like you are the best lynch candidate and who will be lynched unless Radfield and Korynne come out and both vote for Chez and I which would indicate that they are probably scum (at least to me, as I am privy to my role PM) On June 23 2010 16:59 BrownBear wrote: From my POV, in this game lynching inactives is not such an effective strategy, given that each team is going to be far more active on average than a single player, and it would be wrong to lynch one semi-active guy cause his partner hasn't really posted yet. Thus, I'm going on my reads of people, and right now, L and Bill Murray are standing out, for reasons posted earlier. BM hasn't really contributed much, posted that goofy morse code thing that was either really really bad fishing or really really bad fake-roleclaiming, and hasn't really been quick to jump on people who question him. L has been actively confusing the town with a ton of mostly content-free posts that pretend to be content-filled through angry language and blatant overuse of the FoS. If we believe L, we have 4 mafia running teams around right now, which is silly. Some accusations are good on the first day, but when half the town is under suspicion, all it does is create confusion - which is what a scummy player would try to do. I currently have my vote on the BM-Chez team, simply because they drew my attention first. BM or Chez, if you want to make a post saying why I shouldn't lynch you/why I should lynch Team Caller-L, feel free. Similarly, L or Caller, if you want to post saying why I should keep my vote where it is, go right ahead. Given the weird nature of the game, I really don't see the merit of lynching Team 7, since it gives us no information to go on. It would give us LOADS of information bro. Zyrre was kissing up to someone not on his team earlier in the thread for no apparent reason. If he flips red I have major FoS on someone. On June 23 2010 18:37 Zyrre wrote: Guess I'll just keep posting my thoughts since none of you are probably up. BM wrote this: about me. The only other mafia game I played in did not have roleblockers(it was in the role descriptions, but no one got it/used it afaik). So yes, I wasn't entirely sure what purpose they served without blues. I don't think this makes me more likely to be mafia. If I was I would've asked my mafia mates about it. Hmm... you do have a point there. I guess my original gut instinct on you was off. I am not the best scum-hunter, and the fact that a lot of townies are following who I am voting for makes me a little worried. The only problem is, if they do not vote WITH me, they are typically voting FOR me. i KNOW voting for me is bad for the town. I have also heard there is a trend with 3rd voters being scum. Lets analyze who put the 3rd vote on teams: lets see who was the 3rd to vote for team 7: On June 23 2010 10:17 LaXerCannon wrote: ##vote: Team 7 hmm. LaXerCannon is with bumatlarge. I *did* have minor fos on him with his argument from yellowink in which he appeared sort of scummy early on. the third vote on my team -> On June 23 2010 10:24 meeple wrote: ##Vote: BM/Chez Funny it's from team 7. Every "method" I can think of points to them somehow. | ||
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That is a game in which I played as mafia. I am providing that for you. Use it how you will. That game saw me generally making one liners and not providing any positive plan for the town. Early on I create a plan that even tries to advise for a no lynch, in this game I try to provide FOR a lynch in numerous scenarios which point towards the same team just on mathematical trends and heartfelt feelings. In that game, I mainly communicated out of the thread, on MSN with my mafia buddies. I tried to pm with just chez, but that's not my style. I'm not really that good one on one... I'm ok with like 5 guys, but not with one evidently. Chez and I work better on our own than together, whereas if it was Chez, myself, and another team it would be different and I would be concentrating out of the thread which would be limiting my post count/amount of words I actually type in the thread Another reason is the fact that when I am mafia I do not put myself out there like this because I do not want to be viewed as a "fuck up" as mafia. I have TONS of grammatical and spelling errors in relation to when I am not mafia for instance. In that game, I even miss-word something that ends up in me looking like I said I was mafia! That's the extent I fuck up when trying to type in the thread. Given these three reasons, I cannot be mafia in your eyes if you compare my play from this game and that game. -> What we need to do going forward: Bill Murray's 3-step plan 1) Create more discussion a. ask each other questions/create funny trends . why are you voting this way? . why are you inactive? . ace and L arguments . Nobody Cares! b. analyze past games of players . as town . as townie . as mafia 2)Use said discussion to scumhunt a. analyze scummy behavior . ad hom, ate, omgus, strawman, chainsaw, w/e . voting trends b. relate scummy behavior to player slots 3) Lynch mafia | ||
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On June 24 2010 01:16 Zyrre wrote: I'm just find it meaningless posting until I have some suspicion or have something to respond to. As the game goes on my activity goes up, check my previous game for that. I'm usually offline from ~09 KST to ~18 KST, which is why I don't respond during the most heated discussions. I had considered that when I checked where you were from. | ||
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On June 24 2010 01:17 johnnyspazz wrote: i think bm is correct on this one and third votes on a team/person is a legitimate theory for finding scum hey, i will be the first to admit i'm not the world's best at scum-hunting, but we have Ace and L here to help us do that. Only problem is Ace's radar must be off if he is honestly thinking I am scum. He must be misreading my improvement as a player negatively I guess. | ||
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On June 24 2010 01:38 YellowInk wrote: BM/Chez, whether you're town or mafia, you're in a serious pickle. If you are to not get hung, another target needs to be manifest basically right now. I'm not convinced by your arguments against team 7, and since they have become more active I no longer have a reason to leave my vote there. I still think it's fairly likely that at least one of the teams between you and bum/LaX is mafia. I still think it's much more likely that bum/LaX is the mafia one. Because of this, hanging you gives me more information if you don't flip red. So I'm not altogether against hanging you. Given no better info, I do intend to go after bum/LaX tomorrow if you come up pro town. I don't know if people will listen to me or not. No one has really commented on my arguments, but neither have I pressed them due to apparent lack of interest. I still hope the DT is seriously considering investigating bum/LaX! So consider this me giving you your other target. I'm moving my vote back to bum. Given the moment that occurred in the Random Voting Stage, and how you have cleared yourself with me, that leaves my minor fos that had manifested at bum. I will go with this if you have a feeling that he is mafia. I am not that good at scumhunting, but I will lend my aid in your scumhunting... if that makes any sense lol | ||
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On June 24 2010 03:14 DCLXVI wrote: so this is where the votes stand now: + Show Spoiler + Votes for Team 2 (15) Ace (Team 4) meeple (Team 7) BrownBear (Team 8) johnnyspazz (Team 8) DCLXVI (Team 9) Nikon (Team 7) Zyrre (Team 7) Votes for Team 3 (6) YellowInk (Team 5) Bill Murray (Team 2) Votes for Team 7 (13) Chezinu (Team 2) LaXerCannon (Team 3) Divinek (Team 9) Durak (Team 5) stormtemplar (Team 8) Votes for Team 8 (6) L (Team 6) bumatlarge (Team 3) Votes for Team 9 (3) DarthThienAn (Team 4) Ace has been suspicious of Teams 2 and and less so 6 Stormtemplar has split from his team and voted for team 7, but the rest of team 8 is still on BM/chez Team 7 is rationally voting for team 2 now since anything else would lose them the vote my team is split, and I think moocow left the game New crusade against team 3 by yellow and BM (also known as suicide for BM). Some suspicions presented in the thread. Now that the anti-inactivity bandwagon against team 7 has ended it would be good to look at who stayed on and who recently joined for what reasons as well as who left for what reasons. L had some suspicions on team 8 early on, but I have no idea why bum just switched I think that Darth just wants team 9 to post more. I can't wait to see who gets lynched, since it will give us some great insight on the rest of the teams. Now that BM has started to post some decent arguments (well at least better than before) I am not sure if hanging him would be the right option. I don't say this because I think that he is less likely to be mafia, I just think that we would get more information out of lynching another team, say team 3 or maybe 8. Bum's recent posting and voting has me confused and a little more suspicious so I'd rather team 3 than 8 get lynched, but I'm not certain. Time for work, will probably get back in time to change my vote if need be. you act just like incognito you provide the devil's advocates argument then you fail to actually act on it it's like america going to war and protesting it at the same time | ||
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On June 24 2010 07:59 Ace wrote: Ok if anyone has any fucking sense about what RVS is, and the dumb "3rd voter on a wagon is scum" theory then read Bill Murray's latest posts. Forget bum/laxer - we've got some straight up ridiculous logic right in front of us. at least im trying to be creative and scumhunt instead of being a policy nazi and stifling discussion | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:05 bumatlarge wrote: *Insert joke comment that will get me lynched* Apparently people are very uptight about how they want their mafia threads to be. We didn't really have any of this in the previous game, so I guess a majority of the people are expecting a certain mindset. No worries, I will always love you, cheezenoodle, and your instigative celebrity friend. Im not really good with vibes, because half the time, mafia will be clever, and townies will be stupid. (I think we can fit under stupid if it doesnt offend) Theres no clues to eventually flush out reds, so the town has to take it chances on silly posters so early. Shame on you for making me follow your lead, it looked like so much fun yo, bro, if you really are town why didn't you try to shift the vote off of us if you think we're town? | ||
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I am not sure if team 3 would work with us on this Team 9 to me = village idiots as I addressed in this post: "Furthermore, Team 9 is split 3 ways. I don't know if this is inexperience or scumminess. " In case the worst befalls me: Detectives, check Ace/DarthThienAn, or L/Caller assuming we have any of you all. Medics protect the people who have been acting blue. | ||
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talk about an early morning wake up call | ||
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anyways, darth, i am completely for taking your vote off, but i am not for it as it is risking my head @bum/LaxerCannon - are you all ok with voting team 9? I will vote right behind you guys | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:36 Ace wrote: this much vote switching = an innocent is getting killed. No way actual townies have any reason to switch around votes if their minds are already made up. i am a townie without my mind being made up thats why i wanted you to lead us, ace | ||
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explain please | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:40 Divinek wrote: like you didnt go 'oh i vote team9' it's hey bum r u gonna vote team 9 cause then if you do then i will but i dont wanna commit, and all the wishy washy ness of it i tell you! I wanted to lynch team 6, and I want to limit people who I am fairly sure are going to help from dying. In large part bum has helped in my eyes. His post aren't amazing, but I like his play. I do not know if he is red, and I'm pretty sure he isn't, so I am trying to keep him alive while keeping myself alive. | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:41 Divinek wrote: feeling someones red because of wishy washing voting is a bad read? really? you made a bad read and tried to justify it with fabricated wishy washy voting unless youre talking about chezinu in which case i understand... he doesn't tell me anything, either. your voting late like this seems as if you're either: 1) saving a scum team because you're scum and you need them 2) an uninformed townie making a terrible vote on someone who is obv town | ||
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I'm still going to vote you, as I want to live | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:47 Divinek wrote: you and chez have both changed your votes a whopping 6 times in one day. How does that not look like you're just trying to land with the thing that looks the most town. are you referring in trying to save 'scumteam' 7? cause they have like no votes currently so they dont need much saving my voting late is because this is the best thing i have to go on, ive been getting advice as the game goes on and trying to build on that, it's not like it's unreasonable to hold off on your vote until you're more sure about something No it's just that team 3 was at 13 and we were at 12 before you switched seems AWFULLY FISHY | ||
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well you don't have a lot of time to be more sure of something there's only a couple of hours and your vote is in the wrong place IF you're town if you're mafia, keep it exactly where it is, I will die to have a good case on you. | ||
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On June 24 2010 09:16 Divinek wrote: If only i had the persuasive power to put more light on team 2. BM completely dodged any way to logically explain his teams wishy washy voting, and as soon as i brought this up the first time darth immediately omgus-like voted on me. Red protecting red anyone? quit stealing my argument we could work together and actually lynch a team that are red you know........... mine isn't. is yours? | ||
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On June 24 2010 09:18 Divinek wrote: i would like more peoples input on this as it just seemed like me and bm cat fighting = town on town, i agree, but it's not what u know it's what u can convince them u know | ||
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On June 24 2010 09:40 Divinek wrote: Nope. So who do you suggest and why, cause honestly your team is my best lead at the moment lol your "best lead" is off-based. I would suggest someone who is heavily lurking when they lurk as scum like Caller. | ||
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will we still get 1/3 of a vote even though moocow opted to take himself out of the game? this could be potentially unfair if changed I am not a "wishy-washy" team, I am just a person who isn't sure who mafia are I am sure of who mafia aren't in the case of myself and Chezinu. You must believe me on this. I promise not to spam as much if you all would just trust me and not lynch me. I am only posting this way to show you all that I am doing my best effort to try and help you all win if you're town. Teamliquid has HORRIBLE town-play. I am among the worst. I am trying my best. Give me another chance tomorrow, you all need Chez and I , we will be of help... | ||
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On June 24 2010 10:09 BrownBear wrote: I'm still a little confused with how the voting works, honestly. Is it each member of the team has 1 vote, each team has a vote that can be split 2 or 3 ways, or is it some other weird method entirely? teams with 3 = 2 per person teams with 2 = 3 per person it's a fairly simple concept i'm surprised you failed to grasp it | ||
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On June 24 2010 10:09 flamewheel wrote: I'll grant it this time, since MooCow had the courtesy of forewarning me. After this day yours and Divinek's votes will count for 1/2, not 1/3. For this voting cycle though, let's leave it as such. thank you for making the fair ruling, flamewheel. | ||
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I know you all can say "EVERYONE SAYS THAT" but look how hard I am trying to help I have definitely been the most-active and town player from my perspective. Sorry if you disagree. | ||
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i have a very good day 2 argument, plz keep me alive to make it | ||
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korynne wants me alive because i act anti town therefore she is scum | ||
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that is exactly what i do when i am town | ||
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what you did was shifty | ||
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i will definitely re-analyze playing with certain players | ||
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Voting ends in 8 minutes. I have just been asked if claiming is ok in a near lynch scenario. i would also, in that scenario, allow for a nameclaim a lot of claiming is relative to being near L-3 L-2 or L-1 L-1 being a situation where 1 vote is needed to "hammer" or lynch lol, i'm an idiot | ||
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watchamacallits that are the first letter of each word, acronyms | ||
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"meeple... Apparently did not post in the thread the entirety of Day 2. Looking at the voting thread, looks like he didn't vote either. Wut? How is he not modkilled? " he was V/LA | ||
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Post of the game: L MVP of the game: Ace LVP of the game: all those afk people... maybe korynne's day 1 vote at the end. | ||
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