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YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 28 2010 02:16 GMT
#881
I'll hope into #TMMM on the teamliquid irc
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 28 2010 02:16 GMT
#882
On June 28 2010 11:15 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 11:11 BrownBear wrote:
And yeah... fuck. Should have protected Team 3, my bad.

For what it was worth, I was convinced Team 4 was town until the last page, when Ace's stubbornness made me start to wonder.


I was taunting you lololololololololol.

I could write a book as to how to dupe the town. There were so many bad bad bad logic leaps and arguments this game. Jeezus christ.


You bastard
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 28 2010 02:16 GMT
#883
Modkills didn't lose you the game - Scum team was so good this game. Everyone on our team pretty much share the MVP award for this win.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 28 2010 02:16 GMT
#884
On June 28 2010 11:15 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 11:11 BrownBear wrote:
And yeah... fuck. Should have protected Team 3, my bad.

For what it was worth, I was convinced Team 4 was town until the last page, when Ace's stubbornness made me start to wonder.


I was taunting you lololololololololol.

I could write a book as to how to dupe the town. There were so many bad bad bad logic leaps and arguments this game. Jeezus christ.

No one bothers reading posts anyways. Half the town got modkilled during the day we had to push you.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 28 2010 02:18 GMT
#885
On June 28 2010 11:16 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 11:15 Ace wrote:
On June 28 2010 11:11 BrownBear wrote:
And yeah... fuck. Should have protected Team 3, my bad.

For what it was worth, I was convinced Team 4 was town until the last page, when Ace's stubbornness made me start to wonder.


I was taunting you lololololololololol.

I could write a book as to how to dupe the town. There were so many bad bad bad logic leaps and arguments this game. Jeezus christ.

No one bothers reading posts anyways. Half the town got modkilled during the day we had to push you.


Your posts on Day 2 were so terrible why would they. You made a ton of mistakes that I'll be sure to point out after I finish watching the BET awards. Seriously you should have learned something about arguing against someone you are 100% sure is scum by now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 28 2010 02:20 GMT
#886
On June 28 2010 11:18 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 11:16 L wrote:
On June 28 2010 11:15 Ace wrote:
On June 28 2010 11:11 BrownBear wrote:
And yeah... fuck. Should have protected Team 3, my bad.

For what it was worth, I was convinced Team 4 was town until the last page, when Ace's stubbornness made me start to wonder.


I was taunting you lololololololololol.

I could write a book as to how to dupe the town. There were so many bad bad bad logic leaps and arguments this game. Jeezus christ.

No one bothers reading posts anyways. Half the town got modkilled during the day we had to push you.


Your posts on Day 2 were so terrible why would they. You made a ton of mistakes that I'll be sure to point out after I finish watching the BET awards. Seriously you should have learned something about arguing against someone you are 100% sure is scum by now.

Rofl, I had like 5 out of game observers being like "I can't believe town isn't reading anything, so stupid" to me in PMs.

Was pretty hilarious.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 02:23:22
June 28 2010 02:21 GMT
#887
So basically here's the breakdown:

Here is a summary of voting power.
LaXerCannon and bumatlarge: 6
Ace and Darth: 6
YellowInk: 3
L: 3
Nikon: 3
BrownBear: 2

That totals to 23.

If mafia has 12, it's gg for town (12/23), so this is not something we take into account.
If mafia has 9, then if mafia kills the other 6, then it will be 9/17, which is gg for town.
If mafia has 5 or 6, then town is pretty safe, and we move along.

Okay, so that means medic should clearly protect one of the teams with 6 people, because mafia will likely try to kill off the other team of 6 people to end the game (or they have only 5 or 6 points, unlikely given the fact that that means a few mafia were modkilled). The medic at first protected Ace's team, and then switched, completely sub-optimally to L. I would probably partially blame L for telling town that mafia would try to kill him off, he should know better given the above information.

Now, detective. Detective knew that there was a roleblocker because they got roleblocked the first night, which means that they should know that there is a medic. Detective checked Ace's team, which is completely correct given that they are the other team of 6. Now, this is where the detective should have roleclaimed because the medic needs to save the DT to win, and if the medic saved Ace's team (as the only other proper option) then they would lose.

So... both medic and DT played very sub optimally. Medic at first did the right thing by protecting one of Ace and Laxer, but when they decided that Ace looked scummy switched instead to L, probably because of the argument between Ace and L, rather than switching properly to the other team of 6, bumCannon. Basically, medic should protect the less scummy of bumCannon and Ace, because if they were both mafia then it is gg for town anyway.

So yeah... very sad and disappointing last hour for me modding this game. =\

Mafia was correct in killing bumCannon in that I doubt town was smart enough to coordinate properly to do what I said. Besides then YellowInk would still not be discovered, so there was still hope. So gg mafia.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 02:25:14
June 28 2010 02:24 GMT
#888
I don't think the modkills were detrimental to town. I believe that if BrownBear and bumCannon acted correctly, then you guys would be in a great position.

At the end of the day:
Mafia vote power: 3
Mafia KP: 1
Town: DT and Medic
Town vote power: 14

In fact, the modkills put you guys into a unique position to be able to make an optimal play. Doing very simple analysis here would've helped a lot guys. =\ And even if you weren't DT/medic, town should have noted this and mentioned it in the thread.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 28 2010 02:24 GMT
#889
Yeah, I let the thread get the better of me. I was convinced one of Ace and L were gonna murder each other out of rage.

First time playing medic, so don't rag on me too much plz.
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YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 28 2010 02:27 GMT
#890
A bunch of us are in #TMMM chatting right now if the rest of you care to join.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 28 2010 02:27 GMT
#891
I never rage. I'm always calm ^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 28 2010 02:29 GMT
#892
On June 28 2010 11:24 Korynne wrote:
I don't think the modkills were detrimental to town. I believe that if BrownBear and bumCannon acted correctly, then you guys would be in a great position.

At the end of the day:
Mafia vote power: 3
Mafia KP: 1
Town: DT and Medic
Town vote power: 14

In fact, the modkills put you guys into a unique position to be able to make an optimal play. Doing very simple analysis here would've helped a lot guys. =\ And even if you weren't DT/medic, town should have noted this and mentioned it in the thread.

Err, it was noted and mentioned.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
June 28 2010 02:49 GMT
#893
On June 28 2010 11:27 Ace wrote:
I never rage. I'm always calm ^_^

Sure you do. Just not during the game.
Uff Da
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 28 2010 02:59 GMT
#894
yea I actually rage more after the game when ya know, people tell me "it was so obvious you were scum" but never prove it in game. *yawn*
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 28 2010 03:32 GMT
#895
Ah really sorry fellas really wasted atm.

i told laxer t4 was probably red, but we got roleblocked, 2nd day i just wasnt sober enought to whip ot my phone int the past 2 days, but honestly with some hotchicks graduating, i doubt i ccould have mustered the strehgth. Im personally glad i leaned toward t4 at the end there and all more hunches were right. i only have to apologize to L for the shitty game we townies played. Gonna maybe post more if my finvgers stop shaking. goodnight lol
Together but separate, like oatmeal
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 28 2010 03:32 GMT
#896
MVP: Team 4
LVP: BrownBear
Carcinogeneticist: Team 2
Radfield Jr. Team 1
Hangover: BumCannon
Angrybear: Korynne
Korynne: Yink



And now, I present to you:

THE BEARIES!!!
[image loading]
(please note: Bearies are lighthearted trophies I decided to give out because I felt like it. No insult or emotional distress is intended by the Bearies. If you are insulted by a Bearie, it is probably because you are angry and/or neoconservative and/or German, and hate web 2.0 )


Fun awards I thought I'd give out to players for their different accomplishments in this game. It was a ton of fun, and I didn't want it to end without at least some recognition for some players, so without further ado...

THE BIG GOLDEN BEARIE: For most valuable player (name credit goes to L)

Goes to Team 4!!! Team 4 absolutely packed town's shit this game. They passed themselves off as extremely pro-town, while simultaneously stopping all discussion via his long, drawn out, exceptionally well done argument with L. He kept me convinced he was mafia until the last possible second, when it didn't matter anyway. GG

THE RADFIELD JR. BEARIE: For most hard luck townie

Goes to Team 1! Radfield finally won his own bearie, getting predictably shot on night 1, while Korynne also gets nailed by the curse of the Radfield. She was so excited to play in her own setup too T_T

THE CARCINOGENETICIST BEARIE: For the best troll (Someday someone will get this reference, I swear)

Goes to Team 2! Team 2 had oh so much fun spamming the thread. The fake medic claim was hilarious, especially to the real medic (me). The morse code misdirected everyone. Even after death, Bill Murray still had fun in the thread, calling POLICY POLICE on Ace, then later on posting "8 MINUTES TO GO" (in the wrong thread), and causing us all to freak out, if only for a moment. Classy, and classic.

SPECIAL AWARD: THE IDRABACON "FUCKING SKILLESS NOOBIE" BEARIE: For most boneheaded townie

Goes to me T_T

Actually, lets let this be a teaching moment. At night 2, there were still 6 teams in the game. The aggregate voting power, spread out amongst these teams, was 23. Mafia still had 3 players in the game (Ace, DTA, and YellowInk) and controlled 9 or these 23 votes.

There were 3 2-person teams left: Ace/DTA (mafia), Nikon and meeple (town, 4 votes), and bumatlarge/LaXer (town, 6 votes). Mafia needs only to knock off 5 votes to end the game in a victory for them.

As medic, I had two options to ensure that no matter what, mafia wouldn't end the game: protect Team 4 or Team 3. I started off protecting Team 4. Now, as the night wore on, and Ace started being a stubborn prick in the thread, I started rereading what he posted, and came to the conclusion that he was actually mafia.

Logically, what I should have done then was switch my vote over to Team 3, thus ensuring that at best nobody would die, and at worst town would still have enough voting power to potentially win. Inexcusably, though, I read "oh shit, Ace is mafia" in the thread, then chose to protect L.

Yep. I protected 3-vote L instead of 6-vote team 3. I had the balance of the game in my hands and I blew it. Hurp Derp.

This is me:
[image loading]


This lesson applies to other mafia games as well, not just ones set up like this. In a LYLO situation where there is a mayor and a medic, ALWAYS protect the mayor. His 3 votes will swing the balance of the game between victory and defeat. Don't let the thread get the better of you, if you are medic, ALWAYS look at shit like this before you decide to protect. It could end up saving the game.

THE "I WAS HUNGOVER AND MISSED THE GAME" BEARIE: For the other team that dropped the ball

Goes to Team 3, I'm afraid. Team 3 had gotten back a mafia rolecheck on Team 4 on day 2. Logically, in a LYLO situation, you would roleclaim in the thread, ask for medic protection, and hopefully survive long enough to lynch the mafia. If this had happened, 3 things would have happened:

I wouldn't have failed, and would have protected him.
Team 4 would have been lynched
Town would probably have won.

Sadly, LaXer was at a party. And bum was nowhere to be seen. Thus, this golden opportunity was missed, and town suffered.

THE ANGRY BEARIE: For most rage

Goes to Korynne Sorry dude. I fucked up. Sorry I couldn't bring it home for you.

THE KORYNNE BEARIE: For the best rookie

This one is hard. Originally, I was going to give it to Durak, because he tried very hard and actually posted some good stuff. Sadly, he got modkilled on Day 2, thus disqualifying himself for this bearie (modkills are an auto-disqualify for any of the bearies given out for playing well). Thus, with no other rookies in the game, this bearie will go to YellowInk again, despite it being technically his second game :D GJ Yellow, you played very well and I never suspected you as mafia!

That's all for this time folks! GG all, it was fun, see you next game!
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 28 2010 03:38 GMT
#897
On June 28 2010 12:32 BrownBear wrote:
MVP: Team 4
LVP: BrownBear
Carcinogeneticist: Team 2
Radfield Jr. Team 1
Hangover: BumCannon
Angrybear: Korynne
Korynne: Yink



And now, I present to you:

THE BEARIES!!!
[image loading]
(please note: Bearies are lighthearted trophies I decided to give out because I felt like it. No insult or emotional distress is intended by the Bearies. If you are insulted by a Bearie, it is probably because you are angry and/or neoconservative and/or German, and hate web 2.0 )


Fun awards I thought I'd give out to players for their different accomplishments in this game. It was a ton of fun, and I didn't want it to end without at least some recognition for some players, so without further ado...

THE BIG GOLDEN BEARIE: For most valuable player (name credit goes to L)

Goes to Team 4!!! Team 4 absolutely packed town's shit this game. They passed themselves off as extremely pro-town, while simultaneously stopping all discussion via his long, drawn out, exceptionally well done argument with L. He kept me convinced he was mafia until the last possible second, when it didn't matter anyway. GG

THE RADFIELD JR. BEARIE: For most hard luck townie

Goes to Team 1! Radfield finally won his own bearie, getting predictably shot on night 1, while Korynne also gets nailed by the curse of the Radfield. She was so excited to play in her own setup too T_T

THE CARCINOGENETICIST BEARIE: For the best troll (Someday someone will get this reference, I swear)

Goes to Team 2! Team 2 had oh so much fun spamming the thread. The fake medic claim was hilarious, especially to the real medic (me). The morse code misdirected everyone. Even after death, Bill Murray still had fun in the thread, calling POLICY POLICE on Ace, then later on posting "8 MINUTES TO GO" (in the wrong thread), and causing us all to freak out, if only for a moment. Classy, and classic.

SPECIAL AWARD: THE IDRABACON "FUCKING SKILLESS NOOBIE" BEARIE: For most boneheaded townie

Goes to me T_T

Actually, lets let this be a teaching moment. At night 2, there were still 6 teams in the game. The aggregate voting power, spread out amongst these teams, was 23. Mafia still had 3 players in the game (Ace, DTA, and YellowInk) and controlled 9 or these 23 votes.

There were 3 2-person teams left: Ace/DTA (mafia), Nikon and meeple (town, 4 votes), and bumatlarge/LaXer (town, 6 votes). Mafia needs only to knock off 5 votes to end the game in a victory for them.

As medic, I had two options to ensure that no matter what, mafia wouldn't end the game: protect Team 4 or Team 3. I started off protecting Team 4. Now, as the night wore on, and Ace started being a stubborn prick in the thread, I started rereading what he posted, and came to the conclusion that he was actually mafia.

Logically, what I should have done then was switch my vote over to Team 3, thus ensuring that at best nobody would die, and at worst town would still have enough voting power to potentially win. Inexcusably, though, I read "oh shit, Ace is mafia" in the thread, then chose to protect L.

Yep. I protected 3-vote L instead of 6-vote team 3. I had the balance of the game in my hands and I blew it. Hurp Derp.

This is me:
[image loading]


This lesson applies to other mafia games as well, not just ones set up like this. In a LYLO situation where there is a mayor and a medic, ALWAYS protect the mayor. His 3 votes will swing the balance of the game between victory and defeat. Don't let the thread get the better of you, if you are medic, ALWAYS look at shit like this before you decide to protect. It could end up saving the game.

THE "I WAS HUNGOVER AND MISSED THE GAME" BEARIE: For the other team that dropped the ball

Goes to Team 3, I'm afraid. Team 3 had gotten back a mafia rolecheck on Team 4 on day 2. Logically, in a LYLO situation, you would roleclaim in the thread, ask for medic protection, and hopefully survive long enough to lynch the mafia. If this had happened, 3 things would have happened:

I wouldn't have failed, and would have protected him.
Team 4 would have been lynched
Town would probably have won.

Sadly, LaXer was at a party. And bum was nowhere to be seen. Thus, this golden opportunity was missed, and town suffered.

THE ANGRY BEARIE: For most rage

Goes to Korynne I fucked up. Sorry I couldn't bring it home for you.

THE KORYNNE BEARIE: For the best rookie

This one is hard. Originally, I was going to give it to Durak, because he tried very hard and actually posted some good stuff. Sadly, he got modkilled on Day 2, thus disqualifying himself for this bearie (modkills are an auto-disqualify for any of the bearies given out for playing well). Thus, with no other rookies in the game, this bearie will go to YellowInk again, despite it being technically his second game :D GJ Yellow, you played very well and I never suspected you as mafia!

That's all for this time folks! GG all, it was fun, see you next game!

SUNSFANNED
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 28 2010 03:38 GMT
#898
Oh shit. That was quote, not edit.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 28 2010 03:42 GMT
#899
Danger Will Robinson. Danger!
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 28 2010 03:43 GMT
#900
WAiIT I WAS HUNGOVER AnD MISSED THE.... oh wait nvm continue bb, mini mafia is intense.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
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