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Radfield
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:00 Radfield wrote: This doesn't make sense to me Opz. You're claiming that shooting Amber somehow clears you of suspicion, because DEs would never do such a thing. I'd say that DEs with AK powers would be looking for a chance to take out townies when those townies are most suspicious looking, but haven't been given time to defend themselves. Which is kinda what happened. Not to mention that Amber is the juiciest target for the mafia to target. And how would you AKing someone mean BM made you do it? I don't understand what you're saying there. Also, both you and Jeejee are forgetting the possibility that Thegilaboy is a godfather. If he was the godfather, then he would likely have a fake persona, since he'd need to come back as townie on all role/alignment checks. This fits well with my thought that BM provided a safe list to the DE's(he totally flip-flopped on his whole legal/illegal to name claim thing) The part you are quoting... Radfield...Me and JeeJee both posted to kill Amber. It counted as one attack. Look at the post he made "I found ~OpZ~'s no problem, next time bold yours JeeJee" or something similar....Would two death eaters really have to both post "AK: Amberlight" and expose themselves just for one day kill? BM didn't make me do anything other than not claim. Gilaboy could be GF I suppose...But does the GF get to control who he appears as? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:02 Radfield wrote: But here's the real problem Opz. You're trying to kill, or just killed(with your spoilered AK), the person who Jeejee supposedly investigated last night. If you and Jeejee are tied at the hip like you say, then presumably he should have let you know his results, which would be the same as I got on Day 2, meaning YI is Neville Longbottom. Of all the people in this game, he would basically be our most confirmed townie, given that he's been role checked three times! And you just killed him? Either that or you're bullshitting up the thread with fake Avada Kadavras, which is super disruptive. Because if he's most confirmed he's an idiot. -_-...Jesus christ, he has been telling me I'm mafia forever...Is this because I suspected him in the beginning. Anyway. We should stop arguing. Let's lynch JohnnySpazz. He claims to have no abilities. Then lets lynch Korynne (Roffles). Roffles claimed to have no abilities, after claiming he had a one time use ability. I'm quite done. Anyone claiming to have NO Ability this game can go kick rocks. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:02 Radfield wrote: But here's the real problem Opz. You're trying to kill, or just killed(with your spoilered AK), the person who Jeejee supposedly investigated last night. If you and Jeejee are tied at the hip like you say, then presumably he should have let you know his results, which would be the same as I got on Day 2, meaning YI is Neville Longbottom. Of all the people in this game, he would basically be our most confirmed townie, given that he's been role checked three times! And you just killed him? Either that or you're bullshitting up the thread with fake Avada Kadavras, which is super disruptive. And don't worry about the AK, it's fake. I just wanted him to shut up. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
So you guys are claiming the twins obviously, and yet somehow the twins have AK powers? Seems moderately unlikely. Another option is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. -Neither of them have been checked -They both claim they aren't allowed to nameclaim, but now have claimed Weasleys, and most importantly they've claimed after everyone else. -They obviously checked Thegilaboy, but Lakris could've checked him for them and passed that info along before he died. -They got Lakris lynched, which would be a bold move if they're DE's, but not an unheard of one. -They both shot Amber[light] Most importantly, killing one of you, and having him flip blue means the other is legit. That basically means that either Thegilaboy/Jspazz are mafia, or Me/Korynne(roffles) are mafia. Obviously at that point I would know that Thegilaboy/jspazz are mafia, but what I know is irrelevant. However, everything is easily be cleared up with Jeejee's investigation. He checks Jspazz, who either turns up red(lynch him), or green(lynch me). I think the most likely scenario right now is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. I honestly can't see how we not lynch one of them at this point. Obviously if we do lynch it's gonna be Opz, since Jeejee claimed detective, and Opz is possibly claiming TreeStump(?), which means he won't get lynched anyways. If you are the Treestump Opz, you should claim, as I'm pretty sure we win then. I'm in no hurray to lynch at this point though, we've got a lot of time to talk this out, so consider this an IN THREAD vote for Opz. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:14 ~OpZ~ wrote: Because if he's most confirmed he's an idiot. -_-...Jesus christ, he has been telling me I'm mafia forever...Is this because I suspected him in the beginning. Anyway. We should stop arguing. Let's lynch JohnnySpazz. He claims to have no abilities. Then lets lynch Korynne (Roffles). Roffles claimed to have no abilities, after claiming he had a one time use ability. I'm quite done. Anyone claiming to have NO Ability this game can go kick rocks. If we're going to lynch Jspazz, who is the other Deatheater? Thegilaboy as Godfather? If that's the case we can sort that out overnight anyways. After we sort out you and Jeejee. Amber, we also have the option to use your AK to help figure things out right now, but ideally we would hold that off for a better time. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:14 ~OpZ~ wrote: Because if he's most confirmed he's an idiot. -_-...Jesus christ, he has been telling me I'm mafia forever...Is this because I suspected him in the beginning. Anyway. We should stop arguing. Let's lynch JohnnySpazz. He claims to have no abilities. Then lets lynch Korynne (Roffles). Roffles claimed to have no abilities, after claiming he had a one time use ability. I'm quite done. Anyone claiming to have NO Ability this game can go kick rocks. Also, I believe Roffles claimed he has a one time use ability, that once he uses it it's gone. At the time I assumed that meant Tree Stump. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:32 Radfield wrote: Also, I believe Roffles claimed he has a one time use ability, that once he uses it it's gone. At the time I assumed that meant Tree Stump. I assumed Busdriver. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I think Bus Driver can use his ability every night: Busdriver: The Bus Driver is a role who may choose to switch two players each night. Thus, any night choice performed on a switched player will affect the other player targeted by the Bus Driver. The Bus Driver's night choices are only valid for that same night. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 04:17 Radfield wrote: Lets think about this some more. So you guys are claiming the twins obviously, and yet somehow the twins have AK powers? Seems moderately unlikely. Another option is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. -Neither of them have been checked -They both claim they aren't allowed to nameclaim, but now have claimed Weasleys, and most importantly they've claimed after everyone else. -They obviously checked Thegilaboy, but Lakris could've checked him for them and passed that info along before he died. -They got Lakris lynched, which would be a bold move if they're DE's, but not an unheard of one. -They both shot Amber[light] Most importantly, killing one of you, and having him flip blue means the other is legit. That basically means that either Thegilaboy/Jspazz are mafia, or Me/Korynne(roffles) are mafia. Obviously at that point I would know that Thegilaboy/jspazz are mafia, but what I know is irrelevant. However, everything is easily be cleared up with Jeejee's investigation. He checks Jspazz, who either turns up red(lynch him), or green(lynch me). I think the most likely scenario right now is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. I honestly can't see how we not lynch one of them at this point. Obviously if we do lynch it's gonna be Opz, since Jeejee claimed detective, and Opz is possibly claiming TreeStump(?), which means he won't get lynched anyways. If you are the Treestump Opz, you should claim, as I'm pretty sure we win then. I'm in no hurray to lynch at this point though, we've got a lot of time to talk this out, so consider this an IN THREAD vote for Opz. Don't attach JeeJee to me like that. I've been far more vocal than he has about being unwilling to claim. Most importantly, killing one of you, and having him flip blue means the other is legit. That basically means that either Thegilaboy/Jspazz are mafia, or Me/Korynne(roffles) are mafia. Obviously at that point I would know that Thegilaboy/jspazz are mafia, but what I know is irrelevant. However, everything is easily be cleared up with Jeejee's investigation. He checks Jspazz, who either turns up red(lynch him), or green(lynch me). Why should we need to confirm him by lynching me? -_-...That's a terrible plan, but fine, yea, lynch me if you feel that's the best way of confirming me. Would you like me to go vote for myself? I think the most likely scenario right now is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. I honestly can't see how we not lynch one of them at this point. Obviously if we do lynch it's gonna be Opz, since Jeejee claimed detective, and Opz is possibly claiming TreeStump(?), which means he won't get lynched anyways. If you are the Treestump Opz, you should claim, as I'm pretty sure we win then. Okay...I now feel you're scum. I'd rather Amber AK at me, than be lynched. But I'd rather JeeJee give you some of his thoughts. Lol. Althought seriously, no body should vote for me. It isn't like I've screamed pro town all game (which you've all admitted). It isn't like I'm the one who found Lakrismamma to be Nagini. (JeeJee wanted to search Yink that night I believe). Isn't like I voted for Lakris two days in a row. And it isn't like I confirmed the most people in this game and am the person who started the name claim. (Oh yes, the reason you are justifying your lynching of me, is something I STARTED. I Didn't claim because I was not supposed to. BUT I made everyone else claim to give you all that information) Now if you feel any of that justifies scum behavior, please let me know. And p.s. How is our medic that has claimed, and radfield, alive? I'm still down for the YellowInk/Radfield combo, with YI as GF. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On July 03 2010 02:41 ~OpZ~ wrote: Gilaboy is not DE...I've checked him and he wears cute lil miniature bow ties. LOLOLOLOL | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
-Neither of them have been checked I asked you or Gilaboy to check me last night. You to see if you were lying, and/or gilaboy to check his alignment. -They both claim they aren't allowed to nameclaim, but now have claimed Weasleys, and most importantly they've claimed after everyone else. ...JeeJee didn't claim he couldn't claim. He just didn't claim. I was the more vocal of the two of us. And in our defense, We both had to attack Amber to cast AK on him. I wonder why we both had to?! -They obviously checked Thegilaboy, but Lakris could've checked him for them and passed that info along before he died. Maybe Lakris could of checked YellowInk for you? -_- Would you like the clue on Lakris? The person I chose to investigate, and planned the lynch on? Your idea here calls for a lot of over the top ridiculous things to have happened... -They got Lakris lynched, which would be a bold move if they're DE's, but not an unheard of one. Please point out some time on TL when a mafia got the other mafia lynched on purpose from the get go. Make sure it starts on day 2, but the mafia doesn't get lynched until day 3. Also, make sure AFJ points suspicion at you constantly, and condemns as scum you just before he is modkilled (with no idea he will be modkilled) because of someone else (and pops scum). -They both shot Amber[light] We both had to for it to work. Allowed one single use of AK between us, but it had to be agreed by both of us. But we both had to post in thread. We thought it was a nightkill (remember I said I'm no dt?). BM told us it had to be during the day and that he never said we had a nightkill. That's why we didn't believe Amber could NK as a jack. | ||
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~OpZ~
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Amber[LighT]
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: Why don't you just name claim? JeeJee stated they run a joke shop. I don't really care which is which - this just puts them on a particular set. As far as I'm concerned they've name claimed now. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
surely they would have been killing DTs unless we're on completely the wrong track and they're enjoying it clearly we must AK one of our confirmed townies right now any volunteers? | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:41 JeeJee wrote: They did this because they're playing a numbers game. I was highly unlikely to cover Jayme for various reasons. Had Jugan or Jayme spoken up before the lynch, things could have gone much differently.what i don't get is why they would kill hermione of all people surely they would have been killing DTs unless we're on completely the wrong track and they're enjoying it clearly we must AK one of our confirmed townies right now any volunteers? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:48 YellowInk wrote: They did this because they're playing a numbers game. I was highly unlikely to cover Jayme for various reasons. Had Jugan or Jayme spoken up before the lynch, things could have gone much differently. I gotta go to work, be backat 11 pm EST maybe? | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
(1) Short of some some obscenely game bending magic (eg the real Harry Potter was not permitted to role claim for any reason), Amber[Light] is Harry Potter by virtue of the claim. (2) ~OpZ~ and JeeJee are either both death eater or both toan aligned. They outted nagini, a horcrux death eater, in the early game. (3) Radfield can pardon and has access to investigatory powers. (4) Korynne(Roffles) has claimed Aberforth for which Radfield vouched by cluecheck the following day. (5) Thegilaboy(Subversion) has claimed to be Flitwick vouched for by JeeJee cluecheck. (6) johnnyspazz was named Ginny by ~OpZ~, but in JeeJee's recent clue review did not include a check on johnnyspazz so I am unclear on this point (7) I have been confirmed by all 3 investigators. It is unclear whether (2) was intentional. If it was not, note that it was Radfield that called them out on it and brought it quickly to a head. This means there is a possibility that either ~OpZ~ or Radfield could be a death eater where the other's actions pressured them into communally slaying nagini. If we assume there at least two death eaters left, this means either clue checks can be fooled or one among Radfield/~OpZ~ is death eater. If we assume clue checks can be fooled by precisely one among two death eaters, it means that someone who hasn't been clue checked is a death eater along with someone who may or may not have been clue checked. People who have not been clue checked: ~OpZ~ JeeJee johnnyspazz? (Please clarify this point) Regardless, this puts us back to square one since it forces ~OpZ~/JeeJee to be death eater. Therefore I suggest we lynch either ~OpZ~, JeeJee, or Radfield. So now I ask, is there any way any of you can provide evidence beyond any reasonable doubt that you are town aligned? ~OpZ~, what was the 'ultimate defense' you spoke of earlier? If there are any flaws in the above logic or information, now is the time to poke holes. | ||
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