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On July 03 2010 01:03 YellowInk wrote: I don't understand why ~OpZ~ and JeeJee havn't straight up role claimed. What could possibly be gained by their remaining hidden when the rest of us have our roles exposed?
Let me help you....I'm kinda like how Jugan is...Like...in that sorta pickle...Radfield and me were talking earlier about it a few times...I told him not to bother asking repeatedly because I'm not going to answer him. He can either take that as me being secretive, or that I can't. And you've all actually came close to getting it several times, because I fucked up posting. Now...Either you understand why I haven't claimed, and possibly why JeeJee hasn't, or you don't. I can't go into detail about it. -____-;; But I'm not DE and neither is he. Also I will be voting to lynch YInk today. He wanted me modkilled, which is shady behavior at this stage in the game.
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Also, JohnnySpazz claimed Ginny Weasely, But I don't mind him being checked.
And NO body seriously find YInk wanting me dead by modkill suspicious?
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On July 01 2010 10:21 johnnyspazz wrote: lol what opz, if you come up innocent you're more likely to believe i'm innocent? don't you know if youre innocent or not already? also damn i just read 3 pages of jugan being a terrible townie if he is indeed ron. Lol....No sir. We weren't sure of Gilaboy's sanity...Now its either naive or normal.
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Also YInk please tell us what is gonna cost us so greatly if you die or tell us about it.
Korynne are you a busdriver?!
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On July 03 2010 01:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 01:03 YellowInk wrote: I don't understand why ~OpZ~ and JeeJee havn't straight up role claimed. What could possibly be gained by their remaining hidden when the rest of us have our roles exposed? Let me help you....I'm kinda like how Jugan is...Like...in that sorta pickle...Radfield and me were talking earlier about it a few times...I told him not to bother asking repeatedly because I'm not going to answer him. He can either take that as me being secretive, or that I can't. And you've all actually came close to getting it several times, because I fucked up posting. Now...Either you understand why I haven't claimed, and possibly why JeeJee hasn't, or you don't. I can't go into detail about it. -____-;; But I'm not DE and neither is he. Also I will be voting to lynch YInk today. He wanted me modkilled, which is shady behavior at this stage in the game. This is false. Normally at this stage of the game I'd call it a lie, but you've made so many errors in judgment (whether you're town or DE) I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You can name claim. You can't mason claim. Jugan could have name claimed. Jayme could have said, 'I'm Hermione' rather than 'brunette bookworm'. Our mod has been clear about this on multiple occasions. If it helps make you feel more secure, I will ensure that you are lynched for your evildoing ways if you do not claim your name. I'll hold off on voting for you since if you really are town I don't want the death eaters wagoning you.
There's really no excuse for Jugan dying. Jayme could have said, 'No, Jugan is cool, let him be.' Jugan could have done any number of things. You can do the same.
Also, looking through posting history, the vouching has been a bit one way. JeeJee, do you similarly vouch for ~OpZ~ not being a death eater?
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On June 29 2010 13:50 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: ~OpZ~ has been posting confusingly, and seemed to be in contact with JeeJee through PM (he said he "agreed" with jeejee that lakris should be lynched before jeejee announced that lakris is nagini). This means that he has a role that can PM... besides death eaters, I have no idea who can PM, possibly masons? Maybe opz and jeejee are masons together.
Jayme has been awfully quiet lately. Don't have a specific read on him, but he does seem a bit off.
Radfield... where the hell has he been? I do get a slightly scummy vibe from him, but the fact that he didn't pardon lakris gives him a small amount of credit (though if he is a death eater, he could be waiting until later to pardon a death eater so he doesn't reveal himself).
Roffles has been posting pretty pro town and sensibly, and seems neutral for the most part... perhaps too much so.
My recommendation for rolecheck tonight is radfield. If he does turn out red, we can lynch him before he pardons a death eater. Of course, he could be godfather, but that's always a risk. If he managed to get himself pardoner as the godfather, then he's a better player than I give him credit for.
Here we go...I think I gotta few people who aren't DE in here...Also AFJ "thought" Gilaboy was lying about all his stuff....So Gila seems legit
Now lets just look at this, Jayme, Radfield, Roffles, OpZ, JeeJee, Gilaboy...Only missing Yink amber and Spazz amirite?
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On June 29 2010 20:33 Radfield wrote: Likely confirmed townies at this point: Jeejee Opz Thegilaboy
Checked green by thegilaboy(who may be naive however) Yellowink Jspazz
Others Myself Roffles Jugan Jayme Amber
Presumably Amber and YI will die today, sorting out our current mess. Even if both flipped green(moderately unlikely) it leaves us in a great spot. Mafia with a KP of 1, 3 confirmed townies who possibly all(?) have dt checks available to them, with 5 unknown players. Mafia roleblocker is dead. Either Jeejee or Opz will still have a daykill available to them. There is still a Tree Stump in the game. The survivors and traitors are all likely dead.
Give me a minute to come up with a game plan here, because I think we should be able to wrap this up. How'd I go from likely confirmed to being #1 suspect?
-_-...I tried to Daykill AMBER with JeeJee...Would a mafia purposely put himself out there? Oh and remember the Daykill counted as one? Mafia wouldn't try and Daykill unless they would win with it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131008¤tpage=44#876
On June 25 2010 04:05 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 03:37 ~OpZ~ wrote:On June 25 2010 03:27 Bill Murray wrote: "He also speaks about BM not allowing name claiming (which he does now allow...or doesn't again?)"
I don't mind name claiming if you are not a mason This makes being a mason a liability....what if I was a mason and everyones name claiming? Do I just make up a name or can I say my name and just leave out I'm a mason.... you can claim it only if you have to. for example: you are near being lynched, or someone else is claiming your name. don't worry about the masons Only if I have to....Honestly YInk, you've done tried to get me modkilled once. Lololololololol
How about this, I claim and you tell us what your role does? Or my favorite, I claim (possibly modkilled) we lynch you?
=D!!!
-_-
Honestly...Go through the thread...Do you see what i've been concerned with? Do you see who BM is talking to in the quoted text? I shouldn't NEED to, and at the moment I don't need to....
On June 30 2010 04:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2010 04:41 johnnyspazz wrote:On June 30 2010 04:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: STOP MOVING THE DISCUSSION ELSEWHERE
JohnnySpazz is? Ginny Weasely AmberLight is? Harry Potter Gila is Filius Flitwick DOES ANYONE Else feel like claiming? wait you got filius flitwick from his exchange with jeejee? No
I know the passwords to the encryptions, before the roles were revealed. Must I really go on?!
Because I'm done with it.
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EBWOP: DE* argh..death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater, death eater ><**
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Get ready for another modkill crusade Opz
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On July 03 2010 01:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2010 20:33 Radfield wrote: Likely confirmed townies at this point: Jeejee Opz Thegilaboy
Checked green by thegilaboy(who may be naive however) Yellowink Jspazz
Others Myself Roffles Jugan Jayme Amber
Presumably Amber and YI will die today, sorting out our current mess. Even if both flipped green(moderately unlikely) it leaves us in a great spot. Mafia with a KP of 1, 3 confirmed townies who possibly all(?) have dt checks available to them, with 5 unknown players. Mafia roleblocker is dead. Either Jeejee or Opz will still have a daykill available to them. There is still a Tree Stump in the game. The survivors and traitors are all likely dead.
Give me a minute to come up with a game plan here, because I think we should be able to wrap this up. How'd I go from likely confirmed to being #1 suspect? -_-...I tried to Daykill AMBER with JeeJee...Would a mafia purposely put himself out there? Oh and remember the Daykill counted as one? Mafia wouldn't try and Daykill unless they would win with it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131008¤tpage=44#876Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 04:05 Bill Murray wrote:On June 25 2010 03:37 ~OpZ~ wrote:On June 25 2010 03:27 Bill Murray wrote: "He also speaks about BM not allowing name claiming (which he does now allow...or doesn't again?)"
I don't mind name claiming if you are not a mason This makes being a mason a liability....what if I was a mason and everyones name claiming? Do I just make up a name or can I say my name and just leave out I'm a mason.... you can claim it only if you have to. for example: you are near being lynched, or someone else is claiming your name. don't worry about the masons Only if I have to....Honestly YInk, you've done tried to get me modkilled once. Lololololololol How about this, I claim and you tell us what your role does? Or my favorite, I claim (possibly modkilled) we lynch you? =D!!! -_- Honestly...Go through the thread...Do you see what i've been concerned with? Do you see who BM is talking to in the quoted text? I shouldn't NEED to, and at the moment I don't need to.... Show nested quote +On June 30 2010 04:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:On June 30 2010 04:41 johnnyspazz wrote:On June 30 2010 04:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: STOP MOVING THE DISCUSSION ELSEWHERE
JohnnySpazz is? Ginny Weasely AmberLight is? Harry Potter Gila is Filius Flitwick DOES ANYONE Else feel like claiming? wait you got filius flitwick from his exchange with jeejee? No I know the passwords to the encryptions, before the roles were revealed. Must I really go on?! Because I'm done with it. All you've shown is that you have access to investigation, not that you're town. If you're death eater, you still have plenty of room to win even assuming all the info you've given up is true. I've quoted you the posts that show you that BM should not modkill you - especially under threat. If he does, well, that'll just be the 5th? 6th? thing that has been disruptive to this game. Hiding behind your fear of random modkill would be an excellent scum play so that you can't be held accountable for your role.
There are only a few people who are 'unconfirmed' as Radfield puts it. You and JeeJee, while you have a good track record for appearing to be pro-town, are among those few. That is WHY you're among the few. But someone here is a death eater and you two have chosen not to claim when you should be. Yes, that puts my FoS on you.
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On July 03 2010 02:01 Thegilaboy wrote:Get ready for another modkill crusade Opz ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) lol
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Lol...YI, I got the ultimate defense anyway. So you can keep pushing for my lynch. I don't mind.
But please tell us who else you feel looks scummy? Lol.
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Also...again, since you ignore my content....
How'd I go from likely confirmed to being #1 suspect?
-_-...I tried to Daykill AMBER with JeeJee...Would a DE purposely put himself out there? Oh and remember the Daykill counted as one? DE wouldn't try and Daykill unless they would win with it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131008¤tpage=44#876
I also asked you a few pages ago, WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTED IN ME GETTING MODKILLED.
(Capped it because I think you missed it last time)
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On July 03 2010 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: Lol...YI, I got the ultimate defense anyway. So you can keep pushing for my lynch. I don't mind.
But please tell us who else you feel looks scummy? Lol. Similar to you/JeeJee, I know Radfield has some investigative property, but that doesn't confirm him to be town if Thegilaboy is naive or Radfield is godfather. I havn't been impressed with Roffles' play, but the only way Roffles is DE is if Radfield is DE. This may actually be a more likely situation if you and JeeJee role claim and that claim provides some evidence of your being town.
There is also the possibility that JeeJee isn't vouching for you - I don't recall and can't find any place where he defends you directly. Then I could see you and johnnyspazz or you and Thegilaboy being in it together. We do seem to have too many detectives, though an alignment checking DT is weaker in this setup due to only 3 death eaters being detectable by this.
So you can see why I have great interest in you revealing more about yourself. Since you have the ultimate defense, should I vote for you secure that the death eaters can't take you down? Or do you have more that you are now willing to share?
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On July 03 2010 02:19 ~OpZ~ wrote: I also asked you a few pages ago, WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTED IN ME GETTING MODKILLED. No one can get you modkilled but yourself. However, as I said in thread, I would not be unhappy with you being modkilled since I think you're death eater. To put it another way, if I were a day vig, I might have shot you on any number of occasions before now.
As for right now, I want you to name claim, not 'get modkilled'. Maybe I'll be convinced, maybe I won't. Either way it's information owed to the town.
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On July 03 2010 02:28 YellowInk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: Lol...YI, I got the ultimate defense anyway. So you can keep pushing for my lynch. I don't mind.
But please tell us who else you feel looks scummy? Lol. Similar to you/JeeJee, I know Radfield has some investigative property, but that doesn't confirm him to be town if Thegilaboy is naive or Radfield is godfather. I havn't been impressed with Roffles' play, but the only way Roffles is DE is if Radfield is DE. This may actually be a more likely situation if you and JeeJee role claim and that claim provides some evidence of your being town. There is also the possibility that JeeJee isn't vouching for you - I don't recall and can't find any place where he defends you directly. Then I could see you and johnnyspazz or you and Thegilaboy being in it together. We do seem to have too many detectives, though an alignment checking DT is weaker in this setup due to only 3 death eaters being detectable by this. So you can see why I have great interest in you revealing more about yourself. Since you have the ultimate defense, should I vote for you secure that the death eaters can't take you down? Or do you have more that you are now willing to share? Lol. Idle threats of a weak argument aren't going to scare me. You must convince half the town to vote for me. Be my guest and try. I've done explained it, and your the only one that doesn't seem to get it. I've claimed as far as I'm claiming on my own, so since you can't take that off with you. I'm done with this argument.
And it's funny how you just threw suspicion onto all the people who's roles I've stated...
But whatever. Lol.
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To be honest I don't know why YI or I are being considered. First off lynching me is suicide and anyone that thinks so is ridiculous. I offered numerous times to be checked in this game. Since you get a clue back even someone who's read one book should be able to pick up on my character.
I think it's really suspicious that we have all of these detectives running about. Two of which are obtaining clues, the other is obtaining roles, and that just doesn't sit right. Want to confirm a list of townies? Take out the Detective that's making claims. No offense to our detectives, but it's been three days and you each have done a number of checks. Let's confirm our detective work. If someone flips red then they are obviously trying to manipulate checks, but it gives us a chance to focus on a list of players left in this game.
My target suggestion? TheGilaBoy
He's the odd-man out and has a "unique" role that needs confirmation. Think about it. If you lynch me what do you gain? Knowing that you now have to face an uphill battle in lynchings and no auto-kill for HWMNBN. Kill TheGilaBoy and you get to know if his checks are real or just his way of sending us off-course.
Also we know YI is a protector. Do you want to risk lynching the last medic in the game?
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Also when I say roles I guess I just mean alignment
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On July 03 2010 02:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: To be honest I don't know why YI or I are being considered. First off lynching me is suicide and anyone that thinks so is ridiculous. I offered numerous times to be checked in this game. Since you get a clue back even someone who's read one book should be able to pick up on my character.
I think it's really suspicious that we have all of these detectives running about. Two of which are obtaining clues, the other is obtaining roles, and that just doesn't sit right. Want to confirm a list of townies? Take out the Detective that's making claims. No offense to our detectives, but it's been three days and you each have done a number of checks. Let's confirm our detective work. If someone flips red then they are obviously trying to manipulate checks, but it gives us a chance to focus on a list of players left in this game.
My target suggestion? TheGilaBoy
He's the odd-man out and has a "unique" role that needs confirmation. Think about it. If you lynch me what do you gain? Knowing that you now have to face an uphill battle in lynchings and no auto-kill for HWMNBN. Kill TheGilaBoy and you get to know if his checks are real or just his way of sending us off-course.
Also we know YI is a protector. Do you want to risk lynching the last medic in the game? Gilaboy is not DE...I've checked him and he wears cute lil miniature bow ties.
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On July 03 2010 02:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: To be honest I don't know why YI or I are being considered. First off lynching me is suicide and anyone that thinks so is ridiculous. I offered numerous times to be checked in this game. Since you get a clue back even someone who's read one book should be able to pick up on my character.
I think it's really suspicious that we have all of these detectives running about. Two of which are obtaining clues, the other is obtaining roles, and that just doesn't sit right. Want to confirm a list of townies? Take out the Detective that's making claims. No offense to our detectives, but it's been three days and you each have done a number of checks. Let's confirm our detective work. If someone flips red then they are obviously trying to manipulate checks, but it gives us a chance to focus on a list of players left in this game.
My target suggestion? TheGilaBoy
He's the odd-man out and has a "unique" role that needs confirmation. Think about it. If you lynch me what do you gain? Knowing that you now have to face an uphill battle in lynchings and no auto-kill for HWMNBN. Kill TheGilaBoy and you get to know if his checks are real or just his way of sending us off-course.
Also we know YI is a protector. Do you want to risk lynching the last medic in the game? Who did "the last medic protect" each night?
That's a good question.
Especially since he's claimed med and hasn't been killed.
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