EPTIf johnnyspazz has not been clue checked, team DE could be johnnyspazz plus any non mason if there are 2 DE left, or johnyspazz plus any 2 beyond if there are 3 DE left. The argument falls apart if johnnyspazz hasn't been clue checked. Need clarification.
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
If johnnyspazz has not been clue checked, team DE could be johnnyspazz plus any non mason if there are 2 DE left, or johnyspazz plus any 2 beyond if there are 3 DE left. The argument falls apart if johnnyspazz hasn't been clue checked. Need clarification. | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On July 03 2010 05:41 JeeJee wrote: what i don't get is why they would kill hermione of all people surely they would have been killing DTs unless we're on completely the wrong track and they're enjoying it clearly we must AK one of our confirmed townies right now any volunteers? radfield or korynne imo | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On July 03 2010 03:31 JeeJee wrote: opz and i run a jokeshop anyway, i checked yink; i have no freaking clue what the clue means but i think it refers to neville's grandma upbringing (since his parents went cuckoo): babied over as a baby by an elderly lady. so here are my assumptions -this game has a harry potter who is on the town's side -there is no evil character that wears tiny bowties and nervously awaits dates. opz and i decided it was flitwick, and we wanted to see if gila matched up to it -- short of gila going through every character's birthday and trying it on my crypt within 2/5 minutes (see timestamps), he seems to be flitwick. he couldn't have known what clue we saw, and could have guessed some other character. i mean, does flitwick have an evil twin? idk -bill didn't lie to me about opz's alignment then we have the following townies amber (if this guy's de, there's no harry potter, then this game makes no sense) opz (if this guy's de, bill lied to me about his alignment so this game makes no sense) myself (if this guy's de, bill lied to me about his alignment so this game makes no sense) yink (if this guy's de, then there's a DE babied over by an elderly lady? idk) tga (if this guy's de, there's a DE that wears tiny bowties and is nervous of going on a date) this leaves roffles, rad, jspazz scrimmy checked yink but he could just be a de with investigative powers (another one? idk) i dont know what ginny weasly did, jspazz could be de too and aberforth is kind of a random claim but is he like a bus? or a stump? dunnooo this sums up all the cluechecks, jeejee is right on the money. the only people that haven't been checked are me, roffles, and rad right? i know i'm not the DE and i also breadcrumbed ginny right off the bat. if you're town, then i should also be town due to gilaboy's checks unless you think i'm the godfather. after this lynch, you guys need to check us. i'm already partially clear due to gilaboy. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
(4) Korynne(Roffles) has claimed Aberforth for which Radfield vouched by cluecheck the following day. did he? can u quote me the post (i hate this lack of all-button) | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 03 2010 08:44 JeeJee wrote: did he? can u quote me the post (i hate this lack of all-button) On June 30 2010 08:40 Roffles wrote: Apologies, just got back from work and dinner and was catching up on reading everything that I missed over the couple of days. Since Jugan's not gonna claim any time soon, I'll skip him and reveal that I am Aberforth Dumbledore, owner of the Hogs Head Inn. On July 02 2010 19:23 Radfield wrote: Fear not YI, I investigated Roffles(Korynne) last night. This is what I got back: "You rage about your terrible childhood, but are calmed by fond memories of goats." | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 03 2010 10:09 johnnyspazz wrote: He investigated me, but didn't know what was meant by it until day 3. And he was blocked on night 3.so i know radfield got blocked night 1 by amberlight, what did he do night 2? | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
i guess ill retract my vote on radfield for now | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 06:39 YellowInk wrote: Here's what we know: (1) Short of some some obscenely game bending magic (eg the real Harry Potter was not permitted to role claim for any reason), Amber[Light] is Harry Potter by virtue of the claim. (2) ~OpZ~ and JeeJee are either both death eater or both toan aligned. They outted nagini, a horcrux death eater, in the early game. (3) Radfield can pardon and has access to investigatory powers. (4) Korynne(Roffles) has claimed Aberforth for which Radfield vouched by cluecheck the following day. (5) Thegilaboy(Subversion) has claimed to be Flitwick vouched for by JeeJee cluecheck. (6) johnnyspazz was named Ginny by ~OpZ~, but in JeeJee's recent clue review did not include a check on johnnyspazz so I am unclear on this point (7) I have been confirmed by all 3 investigators. It is unclear whether (2) was intentional. If it was not, note that it was Radfield that called them out on it and brought it quickly to a head. This means there is a possibility that either ~OpZ~ or Radfield could be a death eater where the other's actions pressured them into communally slaying nagini. If we assume there at least two death eaters left, this means either clue checks can be fooled or one among Radfield/~OpZ~ is death eater. If we assume clue checks can be fooled by precisely one among two death eaters, it means that someone who hasn't been clue checked is a death eater along with someone who may or may not have been clue checked. People who have not been clue checked: ~OpZ~ JeeJee johnnyspazz? (Please clarify this point) Regardless, this puts us back to square one since it forces ~OpZ~/JeeJee to be death eater. Therefore I suggest we lynch either ~OpZ~, JeeJee, or Radfield. So now I ask, is there any way any of you can provide evidence beyond any reasonable doubt that you are town aligned? ~OpZ~, what was the 'ultimate defense' you spoke of earlier? If there are any flaws in the above logic or information, now is the time to poke holes. I haven't read all this post yet, but I already found a mistake. Not all those people have been clue checked. You realize your counting Gilaboys alignment checks? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On July 03 2010 11:42 YellowInk wrote: Just so it doesn't get lost in the muck (I know they're both not here right now, but will be back soon), I'm waiting on a reply from JeeJee/~OpZ~ regarding if they had checked johnnyspazz. I wouldn't mind having a full list of who they checked by day organized all nice and neatly either. Night one we checked Subversion, my choice, JeeJee wanted to check zeks. Night two we checked LakrisMama (I had already tried to get him lynched) Night three we were roleblocked And I guess we checked you, but I was in florida all day. I didn't even see the clue regarding you because I couldn't PM BM. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
Shinbi, we are apparently epic masterminds at deception and deceit. I have no idea who I'm voting for... I'm guessing clue checks are affected by GF statu too now... YellowInk - Neville - Checked 3 times. Can cast Protego. Korynne - Aberforth - ...Weird person, checked by Radfield. I'm still doubtful. Willing to lynch. Radfield - Scrimgeour - Hasn't been checked, will be checked. Gila - Flitwick - Checked by myself and JeeJee. Wears mini bowties. And is nervous. Johnny - (Claimed Ginny) - Has not been checked. - Willing to lynch or investigate. OpZ/JeeJee - Fred/George (I'd actually have to check to see which I am..Lol) Amber - Claimed HP - Has not been checked....Which would be crazy to check. By the next night we will have investigated all the remaining uninvestigated people....And will know that someone is either lying about DT abilities (highly likely) or will have found a mafia. I'm done with lynching someone who hasn't been investigated solely based on the fact that someone who hasn't been checked should be mafia. Sound like a better plan than lynching me -_-...idiots. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
I think we should not lynch johnnyspazz because we can have him investigated and put him in the same boat as everyone else who has been checked. The real question is if one of our investigators is lying. There are good ways to proceed after either lynching Radfield or one among ~OpZ~/JeeJee. It's more a matter of who we think is more likely to be DE at this point. I could go either way on this, so lets hear more from the town. Also, ~OpZ~/JeeJee, is there one among you that you would prefer that we hang to keep your greatest amount of power should the town decide to choose to hang you? You're either both DE or neither, so I would say that hanging either of you suits the town's purpose. I see no reason to take the choice away from you in the case that you're town. Amber[Light], it may be worth using your special HWMNBN finding power on Radfield since if someone was put up for election, it would most likely be someone who might have godfather like powers. We don't get use of that power if you ever fail to live through the night. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
I've posted a way better plan...That involves killing everyone that has not ACTIVELY been posting pro-town, and creating options, AND (just like the reason you're trying to lynch me and jeejee) has not been clue checked! Also YellowInk, either you expose your whatever the hell else ability you claim to have...It's about time don't you think? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
Now lets see...He claimed scrim/dt... God I wish I knew how GF worked -_-... Amber, do what you want, but you know I'm not a DE. Pro-town Gila, I proved to you who you were. JeeJee, you know who I am ~OpZ~, DUH, myself.... That's four people I know for a fact. I've openly confirmed Gila to everyone. Him being most protown, is strictly because of Shinbi and I. Thats four people right there. Dunno Spazz...You've so far only breadcrumbed your name. I just happened to find it...I can't trust it because that woulda been a soft claim (and you claim to have no abilities, which is complete BS, which I don't know why I'm not trying to lynch you...) Radfield...I dunno... YellowInk, you haven't posted who all you've protected so far this game. You're still hiding some ability you claim to have. Korynne - Needs to post....I'd lynch her. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 04 2010 02:45 ~OpZ~ wrote: Amber, do what you want, but you know I'm not a DE. If this is truth, that decides it. We should lynch Radfield. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 04 2010 02:32 ~OpZ~ wrote: People who make arguments like this are especially suspect. I don't blame Radfield, assuming he's town, for calling you a death eater. This choice is mostly up to Amber, though.YellowInk...I'm voting to hang you if you put mine or JeeJee's name in with any words resembling Death again. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
Lynching radfield seems counter-intuitive to how we've been playing. I don't feel like he's been playing anti-town, and he has never exercised a pardon. Does that mean he can't pull one out soon? Guess not, and if he is a DE then after tonight and/or once I'm gone pardoning will become really powerful. Do we want to keep pardons openly available late-game? | ||
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