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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
June 12 2010 02:29 GMT
#1301
How did that happen? Since they hit the bodyguard at the same time it took away the pardoner's invincibility as well? I thought they had to kill both BGs before it was even an option to go for YI...
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 12 2010 02:32 GMT
#1302
also, if they did know who the bodyguard was, why yellow and not me?
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 02:34 GMT
#1303
I think the mafia can do:
##Night Kill YellowInk
##Night Kill YellowInk

But I am very interested in YellowInk's past day when he keep asking for analyze of these people.
On June 11 2010 06:09 YellowInk wrote:
So I really havn't gotten much response to my earlier query. What do people think of:

BrownBear
Littlechava
Misder
TheGilaboy
Zeks

Our last five mafia? All town?

Also I have to rat Zeks out here. (Sorry Man)
He pmed me asking me did I roleclaim to YellowInk. Also he said he suspects YellowInk to be a dt.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 12 2010 02:35 GMT
#1304
No, they have to hit LaXerCannon specifically. Until the bodyguards are dead, multiple hits do nothing.
Entusman #12
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 02:37 GMT
#1305
Bodyguard
Bodyguards are the protectors of the elected roles. As long as they remain alive the Mayor and Pardoner are both immune to all hits during the night. Bodyguards will not know who each other are, the elected roles will not know who they are, and they will be chosen from Townies after the Mayor chooses who to lynch. You show up as Townie for all Rolechecks.


Holy shit, the mafia should had wasted a nightkill if they targeted YellowInk. Either they were super lucky or LaXerCannon roleclaimed to the mafia.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 12 2010 02:39 GMT
#1306
Or a fake medic that was told to save LaXerCannon figured out why.
Entusman #12
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 12 2010 02:40 GMT
#1307
I mean, I think it's pretty clear that LaXer roleclaimed to the mafia - it's just a matter of who knew who he was.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 12 2010 02:40 GMT
#1308
On June 12 2010 11:39 littlechava wrote:
Or a fake medic that was told to save LaXerCannon figured out why.


this is most likely, as the only people i can imagine laxer rcing / yellow telling someone who laxer is, is a medic to protect him
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 02:41 GMT
#1309
If Laxer roleclaimed to the mafia then there should be others that were asked by the mafia for their roles. If so, you might want to pm darth about it or post it here.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 02:46 GMT
#1310
I thought about it. To roleclaim yourself as a bodyguard to another person, you must really trust that person. Also darth, did LaXer roleclaimed to you?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 12 2010 02:53 GMT
#1311
I just took a look at LaXer's most recent posts to see why the mafia targeted him.

Post 1114
[spoiler]
On June 09 2010 12:51 LaXerCannon wrote:
Suspects:
TheGilaboy - I don't think I should say anymore about him :S

Hugoboss21
+ Show Spoiler +
I've been considering this connection since the very first day post. His profile includes the fact that he loves playing medic & SPY in TF2. Now I've only played TF2 for max 5 minutes at a friends house so I had to do some research (please correct me if there are any facts i'm ignorant to). Here are some points I found regarding the spy from team fortress 2:

-You can't use a weapon when you're cloaked. This would be able to connect to the three deaths (BloodyC0bbler, ElyAs, PyroMa5ta) or BEP for short. BEP didn't notice that they were being followed until the murder decided to kill. Especially in Pyr0ma5ta's case the mafia didn't stun before revealing himself. Instead he revealed himself and then stunned.

-Your body briefly glows as your team's color when fading in and out of invisibility as a spy and that will give you away if seen removing your cloak. This is probably how BEP noticed that they were being followed.

-The spy in team fortress has a masked like the mask figure in ElyAs' death.

-One of his weapons is an Electro Sapper which could be what he threw at Pyr0Ma5ta. Then again, you can't really get anything use it on an enemy character in the game.

I still don't think this is good enough to point a finger at him as I can't explain his weight or his ability to beat ElyAs in running despite his weight.

Misder
+ Show Spoiler +
Nothing Happens in my life. The end.
-Kinda reminds me of AcrossFiveJuly's death


You can probably tell I got really lazy after the first too :S I'm going to go off to bed now. One final note: I like littlechava's survival of the fittest clue! I didn't catch that D=
[spoiler]

So he's suspicious of Gilaboy, Hugoboss21, and Misder (me...), so any one of these (except me of course; I've defended myself), could be in the mafia.

[spoiler]
Post 1193
On June 10 2010 13:41 LaXerCannon wrote:
Misder
Post # 184
+ Show Spoiler +
points out the irrelevance of the lightning clue in day 1


Post # 270
+ Show Spoiler +

-Connects the printer clue with Yellowink, Crate to speeding car, MooCow (green) with throwing knife ; all clues that can be examined with a quick skim of profiles.
-Announced he didn't finish reading the thread yet



Post # 649**
+ Show Spoiler +

-Excuse for inactivity : awards ceremony + SAT
-Justified voting for Brownbear because he did not trust DTA or YellowInk
-CLAIMS TO BE HIS FIRST TIME PLAYING as a way to justify not knowing what type of behavior leads to what and yet knew that the lightning clue is irrelevant
-connects Gilaboy to the gila monster and poisoned coffee
-connects AcrossFiveJuly (blue) to burning wings and burning ink and weights in the gym
-most are reposts


Post # 654
+ Show Spoiler +

-Corrects the above post


Post # 677
+ Show Spoiler +

-Calls AcrossFiveJulys out for dodging accusations
-proposes an idea: dts should check the barricade clue
-reiterates that he's new to this game
-connects zek and Icysoul(blue) to clues


Post # 779*
+ Show Spoiler +

-Justifies his choice to lynch DeuceGladlier. Defends Thegilaboy and starts suspecting the people who voted for him


Post # 781
+ Show Spoiler +

-asks to see if Deucegladlier will reach the minimum requirements to survive; proposes to switch to Thegilaboy


Post #898*
+ Show Spoiler +

-switches to moocow
-proposes several scenarios to the current situation
-justifies not voting for Thegilaboy because MooCow and TyranoS_Nivek have the same profile.


Post #899
+ Show Spoiler +

-asks how to find a specific post


Post #911
+ Show Spoiler +

-labels TyranoS_NiveK as more suspicious but keeps vote on MooCow to "get rid of an ambiguous case" instead of getting rid of an inactive


Post #912
+ Show Spoiler +

-Continues above by saying Deuce doesn't have any clues pointing at him
+ Show Spoiler +


Post #1016
+ Show Spoiler +

"Crap. Im going to be really pissed off is deuce is actually mafia. That would have been my third and least likely outcome that I posted. All that analysis for nothing..."


Post #1138
+ Show Spoiler +

-questions the reliability of DTA's source
-considers that there are not enough clues pointing at 3 lions


Overall I disagree with a lot of things Misder has said over the course of this game. Namely, his justification for voting for MooCow (get rid of one so that we can tell them apart), and checking the barricade clue on TheGilaBoy when there are stronger connections. Most of his analysis were reposts and his lack of posts doesn't deliver enough substance to give a good read on him.

I would definitely say he's leaning on the mafia side. However, I can't link any solid clues to him and that makes me uneasy. With 1192 posts (this one SHOULD be 1193 but then again, it's been a while since I've refreshed the page), each person should be posting roughly 35-40 posts. Misder has 16. I hope he posts more in the future; I do understand though that there are real life obligations we have to take care of.

Overall: He's leaning on the mafia side for me, the only thing deterring me from voting for him is the lack of clues on him.



P.S. Speaking of real life obligations, my high school prom is coming up this Friday - I definitely will be away. I might post a bit on Saturday if I'm not dead tired but I've got an orchestral performance @8PM (on the day after prom )and I'm not sure how late it'll go to.



This post was written for analysis on me. I have already defended against them. I already know that I am not mafia, so this is could be a strategic choice by the mafia for you guys lynching against me. I'll defend myself again if you guys believe I'm the mafia.



[spoiler]
Post 1104
On June 09 2010 12:22 LaXerCannon wrote:
Pyr0ma5ta

+ Show Spoiler +

However, he failed to notice that somebody was pursuing him as he made his way back home.
-Stalking clue again; in the many ways the mafia could confront his victim, the word choice is really bugging me. Thrice now have we had a victim being followed. It was the case with BloodyC0bbler and ElyAs and now pyr0ma5ta as well.


Before he could withdraw the gun though, something flew through the air, blinding pyr0ma5ta as it hit him in the face.
-Flash bomb? This sounds like a physical weapon so lasers are out.

As he clawed at the suffocating object, it released an electrical shock that brought pyr0ma5ta to his knees.
-Oh so it's a taser now?

The last thing pyr0ma5ta would hear was the sound of his killer's heavy breathing.
-The guy's fat or very unfit to be panting heavily while pyr0ma5ta showed no sign of being tired


AcrossFiveJuly's

+ Show Spoiler +

By the end of the night AcrossFiveJuly’s had no idea who stabbed him, but he was left dead all the same.
-not many clues left behind here!
-AcrossFiveJuly was unable to find the mafia
-he died without knowing who killed him
-he got stabbed



Getting clues from Day 2. This could signify hes on to something here.

To me, it just seems like the mafia is making a strategic move against me. Im ready to defend myself. Of course, they could have just guessed that he was a bodygaurd...
Whaaaa?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 02:56 GMT
#1312
LaXer's reasons about who are mafia is important but I don't think they are the reasons why he die.
The mafia is real target is YellowInk, killing LaXer is just a step to accomplishing it.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 12 2010 02:56 GMT
#1313
What do you guys mean by LaXer rolechecking to be mafia? Doesn't that mean that the mafia wouldn't target him? Also, what about the fake medic? I don't understand. Could someone clarify?
Whaaaa?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 12 2010 02:58 GMT
#1314
nvm, I understand the mafia part. You're saying that LaXer told one of the mafia that he was a bodyguard.
Whaaaa?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 03:00 GMT
#1315
Okay misder, I think this is what happened.

Mafia asked LaXer what role he is.
LaXer answered he is a bodyguard.
Mafia use their 2 night kill to target: LaXer and YellowInk

Result: LaXer dies first, YellowInk dies second.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 12 2010 03:00 GMT
#1316
The clues this round seem especially cryptic, but here's my attempt at analyzing them:

These are the possible clues, in my opinion:
YellowInk/LaXerCannon are companions in analyzing clues
Went through hours of fruitless work?
LaXerCannon was attacked from behind.
YellowInk experienced an explosion of pain in his legs.
LaXerCannon bled out - so he was stabbed?
YellowInk walked past gallows and was lynched.

I haven't seen anything regarding the gallows/lynching in anyones profiles, so it could just be a game related sentence, not a clue. There may be something deeper there though.

LaXer bleeding out is big in my opinion. Every night people have been stabbed.
Players left with things related to stabbing in their profiles:
Hugoboss21 with the TF2/Spy reference
Zyrre with the "gut this puppy" quote
zeks with the ninja who throws knives

The other clue that really jumps out at me in this post is the fact that YellowInk and LaXer are companions. Even though they're both blue roles, the clue can still be relevant, right?
Players left that relate to being together:
BrownBear has a picture of him and his friend together
DCLXVI has a quote: "If you truly love each other, die together". This might be relevant because it's referring to *other* people who are together.
bumatlarge has the quote "together but separate, like oatmeal". LaXer and YellowInk went separate ways. Also, not related to this post specifically, but his profile says "that's how i like it bitch, dark and gritty" which relates to night posts in general.
Entusman #12
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
June 12 2010 03:01 GMT
#1317
On June 12 2010 11:56 Misder wrote:
What do you guys mean by LaXer rolechecking to be mafia? Doesn't that mean that the mafia wouldn't target him? Also, what about the fake medic? I don't understand. Could someone clarify?


They are saying he roleclaimed to the mafia, not roleclaimed to be mafia. That means he was tricked into revealing his BG status potentially, giving the mafia a clear road to the elects...
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
June 12 2010 03:02 GMT
#1318
Ah Misder, you got it before I hit post!
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 12 2010 03:03 GMT
#1319
I think I understand the medic thing too. So LaXer told YI that he was the bodygaurd, so YI told LaXer to PM the "medic" (who was faking and is actually the mafia) that he should be protected.

Does this mean that the godfather took the role of medic?
Whaaaa?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 03:06 GMT
#1320
Misder, I don't think YellowInk expect himself to die with a bodyguard protection. Also I don't think a medic or fake claim medic is involved in this case.
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