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Deucegladlier
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
June 06 2010 19:54 GMT
#701
You know, I think there are mafia members in this game.
Babe Ruth is known as the homerun king, but he was also known as the strikeout king.
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
June 06 2010 19:57 GMT
#702
On June 07 2010 04:54 Deucegladlier wrote:
You know, I think there are mafia members in this game.


Wait what, of course there are...Or am I totally missing something here lol
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
June 06 2010 19:57 GMT
#703
And Deucegladier, you just voted for yourself in the lynching thread, any particular reason for that?
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 06 2010 20:09 GMT
#704
On June 07 2010 04:16 Zyrre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 04:05 sputnik.theory wrote:
The ElyAs hit seems suspicious to me. It has already been brought up that a scum outrunning ElyAs and not killing him as they passed seems unrealistic. How could he have enough time to sit down on the courthouse steps and wait for ElyAs to come around at full speed? One possible explanation that has been offered has been that the scum in question could 'blink'. Here's another:
It could be possible that two scum were involved in the death of ElyAs. One to follow him and chase him to the courthouse and another waiting in ambush there to kill him. At night, it's not hard for two masked men to look the same. Additionally, we actually have two players that 'look the same' playing in this game as MooCow and Tyranos_Nivek have identical profiles. The implications of such a double hit would be that MTF is lying about being targeted on night1.
I am not convinced that the theory above is what actually took place but it seems to be a possibility.

Interesting. This does seem like a possibility.
Can't really "profile" Tyranos on his posting since there are so few posts.
MooCow consistently ask questions about the game and refers to the mafia as "them" or "how could they not get a candidate in" etc. Might be an attempt to distance himself from mafia, or he is just new and didn't research mafia games a lot.

Yea i'm a new player to the mafia game. This game was meant to attract more newer players though I believe.

I think some of my questions were a bit hard to find in the other mafia games because there are so many different mafia modes.
In one of the mafia threads I think it was some kind of Russian war as soon as the game started 2 guys ( Chizenu(sp) and Mandongo(sp)) started killing each other and everyone seemed confused lol.

Very weird comments from Deuceglaider. Maybe he's just putting his name as a placer but why would he put his own name for the placer though -_-
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
June 06 2010 20:10 GMT
#705
On June 07 2010 04:57 Thegilaboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 04:54 Deucegladlier wrote:
You know, I think there are mafia members in this game.


Wait what, of course there are...Or am I totally missing something here lol

Elementary my dear Watson!
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YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 06 2010 20:16 GMT
#706
On June 07 2010 04:57 Thegilaboy wrote:
And Deucegladier, you just voted for yourself in the lynching thread, any particular reason for that?

I had earlier suggested that if you wish to abstain, just vote for yourself. Perhaps he is going to put up another no substance post and call it a day.
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 06 2010 20:17 GMT
#707
On June 07 2010 05:16 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 04:57 Thegilaboy wrote:
And Deucegladier, you just voted for yourself in the lynching thread, any particular reason for that?

I had earlier suggested that if you wish to abstain, just vote for yourself. Perhaps he is going to put up another no substance post and call it a day.

Sorry, missed that he already did just post a no substance post.
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 06 2010 20:19 GMT
#708
So it seems to me that it's pretty clear we need to lynch inactives. I'd even go so far as to suggest a double lynch to get past this ASAP - tomorrow we may have a scum target and hopefully down to 1 inactive at worst.

So assuming none of these people decide to step up and play, who do we like to target?

CompX
Deucegladlier
TyranoS_NiveK
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
June 06 2010 20:24 GMT
#709
On June 07 2010 02:08 crate wrote:
Uh, LD, decafchicken is not playing and MTF was referencing a running joke among TL Mafia vets.

Psh decafchicken is so mafia. Didn't you see the coffee clue? I guess BC needs to put in another one with a drumstick before people get the picture!
Uff Da
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 06 2010 20:30 GMT
#710
Deucegladlier, unlike CompX and Tyranos who are completely inactive on TL, have been posting on the k-pop forum.So either he doesn't care about the game or is trying hard to stay away for attention.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 06 2010 20:31 GMT
#711
Rawr. I'm back. Yet still tired. This is done chronologically as I read through posts, so I may repeat myself, repeat other people, etc.

Thoughts on the targets of last night:
I thought the mafia would be going for more high-profile people, ie. BB, zeks, MooCow, MTF (well, he did get hit), etc. I'm a little confused by the barth/ElyAs kills as well - bad play on their part.

First of all, based on pages 33 and 34, we all need to chill out a bit. Don't provoke people unnecessarily, or that'll just be even more confusing for the town. The difference between defensive townie and squirming mafia is not the easiest one to tell.

MTF had some nice clue-analyzing - the brain you can't copy obviously, but follow his format in the future. Give us the clue in the post, the connection in the profile, and your thoughts on the matter.

Solid analysis on in that post - I have one comment about MooCow & TyranoS's connections/profiles: If I were hosting, I'd make sure all of my clues didn't point to ONLY one person. With MooCow and TyranoS having the same public profiles essentially, this only makes it easier. I would consider the chances of at least one of the two being mafia as pretty high, if there are several connections to their profile.

Like I said last night - the running killer "beating" ElyAs is definitely a clue to me. Anyone with any mention of being a winner of any sorts is related to this clue.

@DCLXVI: We should hang people not only based on clue, but more based on posting. Clues are secondary and supplementary at this point - they'll be the deciding factor if we have to choose between two suspects.


On June 06 2010 16:34 flamewheel wrote:
Bookmark post.


What do you do with these, anyway?

@Zyrre: The DT-ninja-stealth stuff refers more to the first killer.

@LaXer: "Sorry if you saw it that way, I really just want to vote based on clues." Bad! Clue analysis is good, but don't forget the bread and butter of mafia - discussion and scummy posts!
I like the blink idea though, that's pretty good.

@Misder: Could you elaborate on AFJ dodging accusations thrown at him? Last I checked your accusations were really crappy and based on his name being BFJ?, and he explained his day 1 inactivity (which isn't to say he's excused for it). And there's not much people can do to defend themselves against clues, unless the accusations are illogical. AFJ + weights. OK, check. I don't think he's been dodging anything though.

@crate: Excellent! I hope I see the post later in my reading. Everyone else, plz follow suit.

@zeks: You make me think of a good point. Everyone, be wary of people who only do clue analysis. To me, that's suspicious. Post analysis >> clue analysis by far, especially at this point. For mafia, analyzing clues is an easy way to "get away" with not contributing. And, so far us losing 3 townies is great! No blue roles gone, and it's as if we didn't even mislynch because of the fail-hit on MTF. We're in a great spot right now, assuming our DTs are doing their jobs.

@YI: He's absolutely right. I've been offline for some 16 hours and I can just walk in and post like this no pressure. As long as you give us your complete thoughts on whatever's going on, we don't care when you post. Quality over quantity.

@crate: beautiful post and great analysis! very original in terms of what you've looked at, nice nice. Again people, you need example? Link to crate's post.

Thoughts on his analysis:

onihunter: if I remember correctly, he was kissing up to me early on. He was following me like a little dog for the entire mayor/pardoner campaign, and posts frequently, but nothing too too insightful as say, you or MTF. All in all, I'd attribute to him being a eager but naive town newbie. Potential mafia, of course, but I'd lean the other way. Obviously, keep an eye on him, but he's not a lynch target today, especially not without more clues linking to him.

AFJ: Based on your review, his posts are very crap - late, and bandwagon thought process/posting. Not helping the town at all, I expect to see him really step it up today, or else be prepared to be considered for a lynch.

@LD: MTF's first post is a joke (like, a real joke I'm not insulting him). A nice list of inactives for us. Followed by analysis of the mayoral candidates +1 (good points) for that. I agreed and still agree with his read on Yellow. Interesting to note that he pointed out the whole stacking thing (though I and I'm sure the other returning players were aware of it) and then he's the one who got hit and survived last night. lol. Still, no one has counterclaimed which means he's not lying unless he's mafia and they stacked.

@Zyrre: Thegilaboy's not overly suspicious in his posting, but he's not overly helpful either. For someone who posts as frequently as he does (based on LD's chart), I expect more content that what he's given. Thegilaboy needs to step up his posting quality. We've discussed how multiple times - just do the 4 person analysis thing. I'm not sure how high on my lynch list he is right now, but he's been on there since early night 1.

@littlechava: Hugoboss21 is also suspicious but more for inactivity than anything. LaXerCannon is suspicious. His hasty voting is either a ploy by the mafia to try to start a bandwagon (which seemed to be working for a couple pages but it looks like people are cooling down), or it's a really bad noob mistake. Zyrre, I haven't really thought about. lol. I'll have to look at him later just because I haven't at all this game.

On June 07 2010 03:56 sputnik.theory wrote:
Oh god, I just wrote a wall of text and accidentally closed my post as I was looking back through the thread -_-; fail.
2nd attempt coming up...


I better see it soon... scum! (lol jk. But if you don't post a giant wall of enlightening text, then consider yourself suspicious)

@crate: Any medic who protected MTF should feel safe PMing him and roleclaiming to him. We've discussed this before Day 1, but basically it comes down to, it's very unlikely that MTF is mafia (from the medic-who-protected-him's perspective).

@sputnik: I hope this wasn't your wall of text. I remain unimpressed (by its length). The original content, however, I approve of. Still, it also sounds like something I would expect from a mafia teammate trying to lay the blame on other people. Not saying you're mafia, but it's a potential mafia move. You stay on my list. Post s'more though =].

@littlechava: It's a pretty ballsy move by the mafia to fake medic - if the real medic comes along and does the same thing then... ruh-roh for the mafia. It's not hard to rolecheck one person and lynch the appropriate one. And MTF could be veteran as well in case a fake claim is an insta-death wish. So, imo, MTF can tell between the legit and not legit RCs.

If no medic RCs because MTF is vet, well then that makes sense, now don't it... -__-.

@YI: I'm not sure how good the posts by LaXer and Misder have been. LaXer has focused almost exclusively on clue-hunting, and Misder has given us some bull analysis and a belated explanation for his day 1 vote. Minus the blink idea, it hasn't been a lot. I personally expect a lot more from these two. CompX and Deuce have disappeared as far as I can tell, TyranoS and supernovamaniac are allegedly at the Penn State ARML competition (which I used to go to so I have some sympathy for them) BUT I remember getting back early Sunday morning, so I expect them to be posting later tonight, at the latest.

I'll keep these three in mind for later if and when I start analyzing ppl.

@MTF: I'm not sure if sputnik.theory's theory (LOL) is saying that the mafia stacked kills on ElyAs. It's more that, the killer was actually two very similar people. I mean, technically, Mafia KP is split into two anyway, so it makes sense that each KP is "used" by two members.

I agree that it's a ridiculous scheme at this point. But I'm not going to forget about it quite yet ^^.

@Deuce: uh, wtf? We should lynch you here and now for that post. Post real stuff plz.

@Thegilaboy: easy anti-modkill vote. That or he's retarded. Based on his previous post, I'm not crossing that option out quite yet.

@YI: yeah, no idea about Deuce. Like, "what the deuce?" (Stewie). Among those three, I say we give TyranoS some time to redeem himself, and between CompX and Deuce... I'd have to look but based on what I just read, I want to lynch Deuce for being stupid.

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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
June 06 2010 20:34 GMT
#712
On June 07 2010 05:19 YellowInk wrote:
So it seems to me that it's pretty clear we need to lynch inactives. I'd even go so far as to suggest a double lynch to get past this ASAP - tomorrow we may have a scum target and hopefully down to 1 inactive at worst.

So assuming none of these people decide to step up and play, who do we like to target?

CompX
Deucegladlier
TyranoS_NiveK


Well CompX right away from the get go thought Elyas was a mafia, and never really posted anything of value after that (and of course Elyas ended up being townie)

Deucegladier is just baffling to me lol. He's abstained (perhaps) twice now and his posts are just big wtfs.

TyranoS_Nivek hasn't done anything since Day 2 began correct? If I missed something let me know, but I think he hasn't posted yet. He might just be busy, but it's worth noting for now
CompX
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada216 Posts
June 06 2010 21:26 GMT
#713
OK, I finished catching up to today (yay!!). Here are my thoughts, for barth’s death. Someone who is able to climb walls or able to “fly” is either MooCow or TyranoS_NiveK because they both very similar public profile. What caught me in both of their profiles is the quote “The laws of physics do not apply to me”. Does that mean that one of them is a mafia and able to float to the room and kill barth. After barth was killed barth was facing upward to the sky not face down on the ground.

And I know that I have been inactive for quite a while, since it’s near the end of the school year. I will be study most of the time, sorry if I have been always inactive.
man, I am tiny the stone GIANT!! ┌██┘
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 06 2010 21:28 GMT
#714
On June 07 2010 02:08 crate wrote:
Uh, LD, decafchicken is not playing and MTF was referencing a running joke among TL Mafia vets.

I'm going to say that that was totally not unintentional.
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pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
June 06 2010 21:38 GMT
#715
On June 06 2010 13:05 MTF wrote:
Nice try, Mafia!

I'm the one who survived the hit last night, though considering the other two people Mafia targeted, I confess to being a little confused. Perhaps they figured they should target one obvious/two unobvious to strengthen their chances of not encountering a medic. Guess it kind of worked...? :p

I'll be checking through clues now.


Hm, well I personally think the Mafia picked 3 random semi-inactives, and you're lucky to be alive. By claiming to have survived, there are 2 possibilities: you are either a Veteran or got saved by a Medic, or the Mafia stacked kills and planned to have you come out as a survivor. I'd like to think the former is more likely, that he's a good guy, but we should all keep in mind the other possibility. I'll consider you likely shown innocent until evidence says otherwise.

Now, as for the actual kills, barricades and knives in the dark really do feel like TheGilaBoy's profile. I'm liking this vote for now, and from what I see, I'm not the only one.

This is further confirmed by this post:

On June 06 2010 13:47 Thegilaboy wrote:
Damn this badass profile pic, causing me more trouble than good! Although I don't think much blood stays on a psi/warp blade, it does certainly look like I am a prime suspect. Unfortunate for me, seeing as I know I'm clean, and for the town.

But I'll focus on the clues for now, and see what I can do to help the town while I still can.

Death 1: Very ninja like, a clean assassination. I suppose look for individuals who have profiles pointing towards being stealthy, and handy with a knife (and that includes me, I know)

Death 2: A weight, so look for clues that have to do with mass. AFJ references weights in his profile. I suppose the mention of "nothing standing in the way of overwhelming power" in Icysoul's profile matches someone barreling the victim out of the window. CompX's mention of a tiny stone giant match as well.

That's what I've got for now, I'll be taking a better look soon.


I'm having trouble recognizing any definitive clues in the second kill, but Tiny the Stone Giant is NOT a reference to defenstration. It is a reference to http://web.dota-allstars.com/heroes/2841Tiny, a character in Dota All-Stars, so ironically named because he starts as a tiny stone giant but gets bigger as he levels up. It's a stretch that a Mafia would make in an attempt to diffuse suspicion on himself. I'm likely to vote for TGB right now, and unless new good evidence presents itself, I'm voting for him.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 06 2010 21:49 GMT
#716
@pyromasta: Once again, clues are great and all, but they shouldn't decide who we lynch today. Similar to yesterday, a combination of inactivity and clues will most likely decide who gets lynched. But more inactivity.

Unless you (everyone in general) have something new to contribute about the clues, please focus more of players' posting behavior, inactivity, etc.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 06 2010 21:50 GMT
#717
Just reading through the day/night posts for some more clues, and I really do think the best thing we can do is probably to lynch another inactive. Its just too risky basing stuff off guessed clues. If we can get some detectives to cluecheck that will help a lot more.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 06 2010 21:51 GMT
#718
And beaten by Darth this time lol. I take too long to write my posts.
pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
June 06 2010 21:58 GMT
#719
On June 07 2010 06:49 DarthThienAn wrote:
@pyromasta: Once again, clues are great and all, but they shouldn't decide who we lynch today. Similar to yesterday, a combination of inactivity and clues will most likely decide who gets lynched. But more inactivity.

Unless you (everyone in general) have something new to contribute about the clues, please focus more of players' posting behavior, inactivity, etc.


Hm, well I thought I contributed by pointing out GilaBoy's obvious fail with the "Tiny the Stone Giant" thing, something which nobody had pointed out yet (though I fail to believe I'm the only one in this game who's played Dota). Is this not considered contributing?

Oh, and I'm not sure I agree that inactivity is an indication of Mafianess. We've already lynched an inactive non-Mafia. If we just lynch based on activity, the obvious Mafia counter-play is to just post a lot of blah blah blah.
"I made you a zergling, but I eated it." - Defiler
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 06 2010 21:59 GMT
#720
pyr0ma5ta, I see you are very active on TL (post made last week:85). Do you mind spending more time posting about this game?
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