Three Kingdoms Mafia (三国演义)

On May 14 2010 14:09 Qatol wrote:

You are so greedy. You already killed him once!

On May 14 2010 15:02 Qatol wrote:

Here
I guess you didn't technically kill him, but close enough.

On May 18 2010 09:54 Bill Murray wrote:


????

On May 18 2010 12:11 Falcynn wrote:
errrrr...that post totally made more sense when I reread it the first time, hopefully you guys know what I mean

On May 19 2010 03:24 Fishball wrote:


Well, I posted here just so Caller can answer all these questions up front.
The answers will change a lot of things, and I have plenty of follow up questions to ask depending on the answers.

On May 11 2010 06:08 Caller wrote:

Voting rules:
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
7. Majority voting is not in effect.
Inactivity
If you sign up for this game you better be posting and voting at least once every day and night cycle. If you don’t I will annihilate your prefecture with some kind of natural disaster. And then ban you permanently from any of my games.

On May 20 2010 04:08 Hesmyrr wrote:
By the way, the day is almost over. Everyone should be posting their opinions about who the Radfield should lynch so he have better idea of what to do.

I agree with below post:
+ Show Spoiler +

Post #
DarthThienAn 3
Falcynn 4
Last Romantic 0
Tricode 4

I will agree with death of either one of the above. Opinions?

On May 20 2010 05:19 Bill Murray wrote:
tricode: pretty much cleared yourself off the lynch list right there. good job.

On May 20 2010 05:37 Bill Murray wrote:



MY saying "IM DISSAPOINTED IN YOU" is because in the past 2 pages you've been a crybaby asking for a modkill. My disappointment is not from the fact that you're not seeking an unlikely win condition. Sorry that you inferred incorrectly. That's why I ask questions.

On May 20 2010 05:40 Bill Murray wrote:
also, L, see how this guy isn't inactive?

On May 20 2010 05:44 Hesmyrr wrote:
@Bill Murray
That means nothing. I specifically pointed out this four people to see what would happen; I believe faction leaders will be more interested in keeping himself alive rather than uninterested Townie. This is why I removed all those who voted in wrong format from my current suspicion list- faction leaders, while lurking, are more likely to pay attention to development of the game. Hell, if you are faction leader, and you are being targeted, would you pop up or just lurk? Also "waiting for something to happen" could be convenient excuse; he can keep actively lurking for quite a while, saying "lol I'm not recruited yet" when someone points this out.

On May 21 2010 11:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well guys...

I'll help you narrow down your target lists.

I am Lu Bu, after Diao Chan's death I have lost my special abilities. I am for a neutral victory, so lets hunt down some faction leaders. No need to target me. =(

On May 21 2010 12:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
What the hell is 2 Night Lives? He has 2 hp and needed to be killed twice? If so, then LR is only half dead.

On May 21 2010 12:44 L wrote:
Given that I'm not a leader, nor do I have those abilities, this makes me think you're a YT member who's asking for a lynch as per my expectations prior to the day unfolding. I don't think you're the YT leader, because you probably woulda said something during the night.

But are you the DT? Lol, you don't need to be because someone had the balls of taking a shot at me last night which was blocked by a medic who msged me. I'm pretty sure someone in your group is raging that they didn't kill me and this is pretty predictable rage on your part.

Oh well.

On May 21 2010 12:57 L wrote:
I'm not talking my way out of anything. I know you're straight up lying and that YT is trying to grab today's lynch vote. The only faction that could have known what you knew was one that had you and one that had a vig. Either you're the vig and decided the blocked hit was a good call, or you're in a team with a vig and you guys got angry in IRC when the hit didn't land.

If you were a neutral vig and took a shot at me you probably wouldn't have went ballistic.

Hence why I'm pretty sure you're in YT.

On May 21 2010 13:13 L wrote:
But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that.

You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain.

I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT.

Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me.

Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same.

So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though.

On May 21 2010 13:22 Iaaan wrote:
only problem I have with tricodes thing: Why did you decide to announce L's role to everyone if you are neutral? What did you hope gain from it? Makes sense if you are on someones team already, even if you do have detective abilities.

On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote:
So, how doesn't that apply to you?

I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/.

Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information.

On May 21 2010 13:47 Iaaan wrote:


Oh, and this post is complete bullshit. Its amazing how you can make yourself look smart by posting walls of text. If L is a faction leader, and your are a DT, how long do you think it will be before you are recruited? Once you're recruited, why would you care about having a neutral player victory? You are either a liar, on a team already, or setting yourself up to be a powerful person to recruit. That or your just stupid.

On May 21 2010 14:07 L wrote:

Sup Tricode.

Getting desperate? Its easy to be a cool cucumber when you know you aren't lying like me :3.

Your plan was pretty good too besides for the medic protection! That's why I know who's on your team. Pretty sure he'll try to make a push soon because he's scared. I'd prefer checking to see if you're neutral vig or insane DT, though, because that might mean I'm wrong :3.

See, I know I'm legit. So If I die, we waste a turn, then if we kill you and you're vig or insane, we waste another turn.

Then another 6 people have been recruited, and probably a few more vig shots fired, which means that at this point we'd essentially have zero way to win as neutrals. Given that I'd rather not chance my victory on getting picked into the right side, I think confirming what you are is a good idea.

On May 21 2010 14:22 L wrote:
Are you seriously asking me why a grunt in the YT would call me a faction leader if he shot me and knew that the leader who had died thusfar had night armor? YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT. Not only would YT get a player to look like a legit DT that could be used to stall a turn or end the game, but you'd monopolize today's lynch and throw all suspicion off your leader for at least an entire cycle.

Caller JUST told you that you're wrong and you bring this up again? Lol.

Don't recall that earlier "L hates me" comment you made? Did you seriously just ask "IF I SHOT YOU, WHY WOULD I WANT YOU TO DIE?"

You posted like 3 times prior to day 1 ending. All of your posts were spam besides the one that said that I hated you, yet you think you had no reason to try and hit me?

Seriously, you're like a retarded pretzel with all of these contortions. You're enraged that your vig shot failed and that you didn't guess what I was. Pretty obvious.

On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote:

lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee

On May 21 2010 14:44 L wrote:

Uh, I haven't lied at all. Caller just flat out told you you're wrong.

I'm not trying to do anything. I want to kill you to confirm my suspicion that BC is the YT leader. I think there are probably 3-4 of you total. Probably 3 because one of you had a night hit. Because of that I'm expecting an attempt at a wagon, but we'll see if the real townies up and deal with this.

As for the candidates; there were a few. MyHeroNoob was mentioned, for starters, but that's kinda irrelevant. If the medic wants to step forward and reveal himself to clear this up, that's his call, but I'm not in the least lying about having been shot tonight, and I'm not in the least lying about you having an incorrect rolecheck on me. You basically fucked up and outted yourself.

This is why we used to have lynch the claimant as the meta during mafia 2, but then people got smart and stopped fake claiming. Then you thought you had a free fake claim because there is no role list and you thought I protected a vig hit because of night armor.

You're at the point where you've been caught in a lie and you know you'll die if you don't get a train going soon because there's someone else (maybe 2 if your team's vig wants to pony you up?) that knows I'm telling the truth about what happened last night.

Regardless, I'm going to sleep. Don't twist yourself into any more pretzels to justify your lies. Its probably bad for your back.

On May 21 2010 15:08 L wrote:
Tricode, if you die the only thing that'll be confirmed is that you're either a massive troll, an insane DT, a vig, or any of those + YT.

So no, I'm not scared of you dying. I'll finish off with this:

Tricode, I waited a while to see if you would note something:

I've said that there are three people involved in this mess: A Vig. A medic. Me.

You claim that you're a DT. Okay. If you're a DT, then you'd probably have realized that if I'm telling the truth, there is a vig and a medic at play here. You, however, not for a single moment, ask the vig to step up. But why? Why wouldn't you do that? If you could show that there was no vig in the game, or that there was no medic, you'd be able to claim that I'm lying about that.

But you don't. You tell the medic to shut up because you know he'll validate my story and you ask nothing of the Vig after more than a page of back and forth.

Why?

Well its pretty obvious. You are, or are on the vig's team. Even the Insane DT can be ruled out because the insane DT would have wanted a vig to step up immediately for the town's sake.

Based on that, and the fact that you didn't even bother to question that there was a vig when I said there was one, or that the vig wouldn't come out because he was on your team, its pretty clear you're YT or vig.

QED. Nice try.

On May 21 2010 15:28 L wrote:
If you aren't insane, then you're the vig.

Its pretty clear. If the vig steps up then he isn't you and when i flip legit he'll be on the block after you flip. That would take out half the YT team. If you were the DT you'd be GAGGING over the possibility of confirming your own role. Instead you're asking for the opposite.

You're lying and aren't asking the questions which a real DT would.

Was entirely certain that once you faked this claim you'd fuck up. And there you did. Now your team's pretty much dead. Well done on handing us the YT on a silver platter.

Once again: QED.

Sleep time.

On May 22 2010 00:05 Radfield wrote:
Consider if the YT's had a role checker, they would never have to fear about recruiting a leader, because they would always check a player one night and recruit him the next. And if they DO find a leader, they can bandwagon him in the thread, because everyone is so gung ho about killing off leaders.

The more I think about it, the more I think we should let L live for now, and really focus on hunting the YT's. But I'll think on that some more first.

On May 22 2010 00:56 Abenson wrote:
Remember, no editing

On May 22 2010 01:09 Abenson wrote:


I really don't care if you put a period, but a picky and detail-oriented mod will probably warn you

On May 22 2010 03:44 Falcynn wrote:
Alright, I just skimmed through the thread since six pages of long ass posts have come up since I went to bed last night, but I just wanted to check. Tricode you are aware of this possibility right? That you might be an "insane" cop in which case your guilty verdicts appear as innocent and vice versa.

In case you're wondering, this is probably why some people think both you and L are full of shit. Anyways, gonna go back and read more in-depth.

On May 22 2010 03:49 Hesmyrr wrote:


1. Unless Caller is fucking around with phrase "You will not be notified if someone is hit or checked, nor will your target", I can't see how both of us can be telling the truth. You claim to have DT checked L, but my protection nullifies all night actions. Thus I know you are lying.

2. My protection overrides all night actions- this makes sense favour-wise because Lu Xun was great tactician. It wouldn't make sense for me to only have NK block ability.

3. ~Opz~ got my roleclaim day 1. Thus I cannot be making this up due to recruitment.

If you are genuine in your claim, obviously you would survive getting checked by Abenson then we have firm reason to lynch L. So what is the problem?

On May 22 2010 04:08 Iaaan wrote:
doesnt matter if L recruits more people, we can always kill him and his empire collapses if it turns out you aren't bsing.

On May 22 2010 04:14 Hesmyrr wrote:
Your attempt to soak up today's lynch is quite obvious; if we hit Xelin, and he turns out to be recruiter, the # of people recruited at the night stays the same. If you really are DT, by letting Abenson - YT killer - hit you you will be in impenetrable position to lynch L tomorrow. In fact your insistence on killing him today only makes sense when you are YT trying to waste a day. I find it hilarious that you accuse me of being recruitment-influenced, when my roleclaim came from day 1 when we are free from such matters while you claimed day 2 which does not hold same guarantee.

On May 22 2010 04:25 Bill Murray wrote:
for some reason i feel like tricode is a liar though, and i'm all for LaL

On May 22 2010 04:29 Hesmyrr wrote:
Jesus Christ. Looks like everything is thrown into the confusion. Let me propose alternative plan that I hope will make everybody happy.

1. We nominate BrownBear to NK Xelin
NIGHT
2. Abenson hits Tricode
3. Veg, this should be BrownBear since you said you can NK, hit L. No one protects L.

How about this?

On May 22 2010 04:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
Ok Lu Meng, here goes.

Lu Meng started as a uneducated general serving Wu (吳下阿蒙). After Zhou Yu's death, Wu was short in tacticians. Sun Quan told Lu Meng and a less important general Jiang Qin to study literature. After 3 days, they both became very intelligent (士别三日, 刮目相看).

Lu Meng is famous for the death of Guan Yu. What happened was, Lu Meng faked sickness and sent a message to Guan Yu. Guan Yu got little bit over confident thinking that Wu would not attack him since Lu Meng is sick. Guan Yu then goes on attacking Wei's city guarded by Cao Ren and kicking Cao Ren's ass badly. Lu Meng, with a huge army, shows up surprising Guan Yu.

Now Guan Yu is trapped in between Cao Ren and Lu Meng. What worse is that Lu Meng brought family members of Guan Yu's solders which made many Guan Yu's soldiers and two generals (Mi Fang and Fu Shi Ren defected. Guan Yu, ultimately ran out of food supply and surrendered. Guan Yu refused to surrender and was killed. Lu Meng also died shortly after (within a year I think).


From all this, Lu Meng could be an insane dt since he is stupid in his early days. And I have to point out that Lu Meng lied to Guan Yu which caused Guan Yu's death.

On May 22 2010 04:32 LunarDestiny wrote:
Oh, to Tricode's defence, Lu Meng is one the of best general in ROTK and he became a decent scholar after studying hard for 3 days (why I can't do that in real life).

On May 22 2010 04:38 LunarDestiny wrote:
Well, Zhuge Liang is famous for out smarting his opponent.

But yeah. Although Sima Yi is Wei's top tactician, He scouted out many famous general for Wei.

On May 22 2010 05:46 Radfield wrote:

Tricode, if you were insane or paranoid, you absolutely would NOT be informed in your role PM. That's how it works. I'm still not sure how a role cop can be insane/paranoid though? He would just get a random role or something?

On May 22 2010 07:36 L wrote:

Because he probably hit me and had the hit blocked by Lu Xun, then figured that a role with night defence had to be a ruler.

Since he's had it out for me since prior to day 1 ending, it makes sense that he'd try to wagon me. If he's right? Awesome, he gains massive cred. If he's wrong? Tricode doesn't think about such things. Or much in general anyways.

On May 22 2010 07:49 BrownBear wrote:


So then, Tricode would be the vig that hit L besides me, then? That would make more sense. Also it would make Tricode an idiot to claim rolecop...

Actually, Tricode has stated that if we sic Abenson (can only kill YTs) on him, then he will die. It would make sense for YT to start with a KP, actually... the pieces are all starting to come together. I think Tricode is a Yellow Turban. Not the YT recruiter... but he's more likely than not to be a member.

On May 22 2010 07:55 Falcynn wrote:

Well, in response to that part, I'm pretty sure they meant "so fast" in comparison to everyone else. So yeah, L had enough time to find a name/role, but considering not many others posted their names, he was in serious danger of overlapping someone elses name since only a handful of players so far have claimed.

In regards to the rest of your post, you should probably focus more on defending yourself than citing reasons to kill L. I'm pretty sure that if L isn't lynched tonight, he'll most likely be vig'd at night.

On May 22 2010 08:12 Radfield wrote:


Not how it works Tricode. Dt's can have different sanity levels, you might have some be paranoid, some normal etc.

On May 22 2010 08:59 BrownBear wrote:



Oh snap. What does this say about DarthThienAn, now? He was the only person who voted for L during the earlier "hey let's kill L cause Tricode rolechecked him" bandwagon before that one got blown to shit.

See, I knew that Radfield would get visited a bunch after being so successful on day one. Called it. Fucking called it ^^

On May 22 2010 09:12 DarthThienAn wrote:


easy. I thought Tricode was bs. so I voted for L = not vote for Tricode.



I don't get why you're offended? nothing in that quote was even target at you..

On May 22 2010 09:22 DarthThienAn wrote:


Unless you're talking about a PM, I still don't see anything that would offend you. It'd be better if you quoted a post that actually bmed you, rather than quoting a post that has nothing to do with what you're saying.

Furthermore, "flaming and trolling" are encouraged in this game. You should have read the rules. You should be open to these things, and not get offended.

On May 22 2010 11:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Tricode, please reread this post.

On May 22 2010 12:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
Actually, I don't mind lynching L.

But I still want Tricode to explain to me how he got a rolecheck when he should have been blocked from it. Caller?

On May 22 2010 13:18 Abenson wrote:
I am now fully updated on the game.
to clarify, Who do I hit tonight?

On May 22 2010 13:45 DarthThienAn wrote:


He can kill YT's. And I think yea, the consensus was to hit Tricode, Abenson.

On May 22 2010 14:20 Scamp wrote:
Are you guys just gonna ignore the fact that two people claimed the same person?

On May 23 2010 23:27 Abenson wrote:
I must admit, I'm probably not the best at mafia
someone PM me (preferably a trustworthy/known townie) on who to hit

On May 25 2010 07:00 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I also did nothing, except have a full body cavity search performed on me.

On May 25 2010 14:09 Caller wrote:
k at this rate i'm going to have to start introducing random events into the game

you know like rebellions and shit

On May 25 2010 14:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
Do that for next game. This game is already confusing as it is.

On May 26 2010 14:10 BrownBear wrote:
I am confused as to why LD is not choosing to hit Trez, who is the most likely to be YT leader. It just seems like a waste to me.

On May 27 2010 12:21 Caller wrote:
k its official

faction leaders officially suck ass

On May 27 2010 12:50 Fishball wrote:
Oh, and really, lol + WTF + !@#$ to BM.

His shit, from start, to the end, never made any sense.
He contradicted himself like a hundred times, as if he just posts whatever drops out of his ass at the time.