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I'll try my best, ok lol. | ||
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On May 18 2010 06:50 Bill Murray wrote: I am a Lord, I have no special abilities. We've had 2 people roleclaim without telling us what their roles do. That is quite odd. | ||
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Instead of talking about people they'd want killed on day one, people are busy giving someone a free day vig power. So lets talk about people that should be killed. Target 1: On May 18 2010 11:43 Abenson wrote: Yay *Jumps on bandwagon* ##VOTE: Radfield I can't understand abenson shitting around after being repeatedly told to stop being such a waste of air. On the topic of "can the person granted the day vig hit disobey the town?" well sure, but then we just shoot him the day after. I'd expand upon this but I'd rather not until someone's dumb enough to pick someone random for their day hit. | ||
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Not even Manuel L. Hackson In fact I yelled at caller for not giving me Cao Cao, but he told me all the roles were done by RNG exclusively (and as a side note I owe Ace a punches for that). Because of that, I don't think your case against BC is as strong as you've made it out to be. I still think abenson is a better kill because frankly stupidity like his should be metagamed against. He's basically afk trolling deadweight every game. In terms of the behavioral analysis, all of the pins you put on BC can be put on abenson as well, but abenson doesn't act differently when he's mafia or town. If he's part of the turbans, there's pretty much nothing that'll give him away later on, and he'll always be a "oh, we'll kill him tomorrow" candidate. That said, under abenson I'd put BC until he makes a reply post. Apart from those two, Jugan, Scamp and Tricode seem to be worthy people to pressure or kill on day 1. Maybe more pressure when it comes to scamp, but the other two are just as deadweight. | ||
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Initially each faction consists of just one person. Every night, each faction may recruit another player to their team. Some players are unrecruitable, however, including enemy faction leaders. If the faction leader is slain, the entire faction collapses and dies with him. However, you can recruit enemy players as long as they are not the faction leader. If a player is recruited by multiple faction leaders at the same time, they all cancel out. The wording of this is ambiguous because of its position. Do the turbans start with multiple players? There is also a 4th Party in the form of the Yellow Turbans. They may recruit anybody but faction leaders and Yellow Turbans cannot be recruited. However, if the Yellow Turbans try to recruit a faction leader, they all die. | ||
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1) YT might be able to grab more than 1 person per night. 2) YT might start with a bunch of people. Both of which are both good and bad. On the good side, the YT has a far higher chance of leader picking early if they have a smaller available group to pick. YT not only has to dodge picking an unaligned person, but they also need to avoid picking a group that the other leaders are avoiding (who must themselves avoid each other). So for any given day, the YT "don't taze me bro" list is 6 people if the other leaders don't cross their streams. But that also means that the YT might have a day 3-4 win if they recruit perfectly and no one lynches their converted army mens. So yeah, given that 70% of people won't be on YT's side when we reach a LYLO situation, you should care pretty hard about who they are. | ||
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Fishball's pretty much spamming while saying he doesn't want to play. Given he and I have had altercations in the past I'm wondering if that's intentionally done to make it look like he doesn't have a power role, or whether or not he is indeed a leader. Brownbear, by contrast reacted a bit too emotionally to being called out as the YT leader so it probably isn't him. He might be a grunt if they start with grunts. Given that it makes sense But I'm most interested by LunarDestiny. Low post count. Very little commentary besides trying to drive wedges between people, no real contributions. If Radfield's right we're in more trouble than we originally imagined: Nothing at all about a leader, which would kinda make sense if the YT's started with more then 1 person. They're more like mafia, collectively making decisions. What this also means is that we can't kill the YT in one shot; YT's going to recruit a person per day, then even if we kill them, they're going to recruit more like some retarded hydra metaphor. This leads me to believe that if YT is indeed a group as such that there are multiple DT/vig roles in the game and that the YT is probably starting with 1 or 2 members. For the purposes of our analysis, if the YT starts very small there won't be much in the way of them trying to play off each other or secure early votes. What's more, radfield, by putting up this fact noted something that a non-leader based YT would NOT want told to the public, so i'll give him my brofist armies for today. On the topic of the neutral plan: if we don't kill a leader with this kill or tomorrow the plan's essentially over. we'd have 8+4 people on teams, and even chain kills from that point would have another 3+2+1 people recruited for a total of 18 players, unless recruitments overlap, which they will. | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:19 Bill Murray wrote: tricode: pretty much cleared yourself off the lynch list right there. good job. You realized he made a big post to say "I've been inactive, but I'm also going to be inactive in the future" and you're taking that as a sign that he's active? ... ok. | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:24 BrownBear wrote: Could you finish that sentence please? I'm not about to attack you, I'm just actually curious what you were gonna say. Well, i actually saw that too after I re-read the post, but its kinda complete as it is. "given that, it makes sense." To elaborate, it would make sense that someone would laugh that they've been caught as being, say, the godfather, if they're actually just a grunt. Since the pin IS false and they can see the absurdities behind the argumentation, they're more likely to rage or laugh it off like most people do. Generally speaking, when accused people laugh the issue off if they're innocent, but we've had a rash of townies being really dumb and getting really angry instead of trying to clear themselves off what they obviously know is shitty logic. Given that mafia are put into a position of introspection and self-censoring, they're kinda a bit slower to jump to either option because of how thread mechanics work. In short, its much harder for an accurately pinned person to fake an emotional defense because instead of being an emotional reaction, it becomes a calculated play. But yeah, if the YT do have a leader format, so far I'd say you aren't him. | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:28 Fishball wrote: My posting period on weekdays is pretty much the same everyday, usually during my lunch hour in the office. I don't know what our past has to do with this, unless you are a leader and think I wouldn't want to be under you so I want to quit? Also, I'm pretty confident that everyone in this game has some sort of power from their roles. If I were a leader, I wouldn't need to go emo. Then again, you can argue this could be an act, and here we go in circles again. Nah, its more that I know you're prone to rage, hence why It kinda makes sense that you'd rage a bit. Your logic on the past page, however, hasn't been as unrefined as it normally is when you rage. So its mostly a question of whether or not you're bluffing. This post basically states that you've got some kind of role, too, so I dunno. | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:44 BrownBear wrote: You basically wrote a huge post to tell us that a situation directly analogous to a normal mafia team is a stupid way to set up a team and is thus impossible. Fair enough as far as your logic goes. I'm neutral (for now), and I'm still pretty convinced that the YTs operate pretty much the same as the other factions, albeit with some extra rules. I'm betting the YTs actually have a leader because if they did not, it would be a travesty. Assume that the YTs don't have a leader, and that there are three of them. Person A and B want to recruit someone, say, Bill Murray, and Person C wants to recruit Fishball. Normally, Person A and B would just send off one PM to Caller saying "Yo, the Yellow Turbans are recruiting BM tonight, kthxbye" and all would be good. Person C, however, is a dick, and doesn't want to accept that he lost the vote. So Person C decides to be a dick and just PM Caller before Person A or B does, saying "Yo Caller, we're recruiting Fishball tonight." I'm assuming Caller doesn't want his inbox cluttered up by all the Yellow Turbans voting, and doesn't want to have to tally up the votes, so he will probably just go by the first person who votes. Thus, if Person C beats out Person A and B, then the Yellow Turbans will recruit Fishball instead of Bill Murray, despite Bill Murray winning the majority vote within the YTs themselves. This, quite frankly, is a stupid way of setting up a faction. Note, however, that I have never played as a Mafia character in any other Mafia game, so I'm not sure how the voting works for that: I'm just going off the voting structure of a similar-style game played on another forum (with werewolves instead of mafia, but you get the idea), where the host took the first PM in at night to be the nightkill, so teams could get easily derailed by one person being a dick. For that game, it wasn't really a big issue, since one person hijacking the pick just meant that another random player got killed, and a KP wasn't wasted. In this format, however, there is actually a penalty (a very serious one at that) for picking the wrong person, so one idiot could actively mean the death of an entire team. It is for this reason that I think one of the two following scenarios is more likely: 1) YTs operate as a team, but they all send in nightvotes and Caller tallies them up. This is very unlikely for the following reasons: This would clutter the crap out of Caller's inbox, and he probably doesn't want to deal with that shit, and also, he has said in this thread that teams can choose whether they want to notify new recruits that they have been recruited or not. Obviously, YTs would most likely want to notify their new recruits, but in the case they choose not to, for whatever reason, that would leave one Yellow Turban completely out of the loop, so he wouldn't be able to vote. That would be silly. 2) Given the problems with the above scenario, this is the far more likely one: The Yellow Turbans have a leader, who acts as all other leaders, and has the final say in recruitment. So, from what I see, it looks like the Yellow Turbans should be the same as any other faction, just with the added danger of all getting murdered, and the ability to grow very strong very quickly. Given that we have 20+ games consisting of people playing under the exact same conditions, it stands to reason that you might be a tad wrong with your reasoning. Is your conclusion wrong? I dunno. Your reasoning, however, is. Mafia teams typically send in 1 hit list, and if multiple people send in a list, the person who sends it last is assumed to have the proper list. The team will generally bitch if someone sends in a random list, so typically the team will get together in IRC or in pms and come up with a consensus list. Alternatively they'll pick someone and let him pick. In the last instance, the rest of the team AFKs and someone, mostly L, gets annoyed and picks people who would be hilarious and puts that into a PM which is filled with jokes and comedy. | ||
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On May 20 2010 06:34 Trezeguet23 wrote: I love how L was called out for not posting, then he posts and shit hits the fan. This should be a daily tradition. Yeah, I might as well follow the trend thusfar and post bitter one liners. Posting actual analysis makes people go crazy with the one liners. | ||
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On May 20 2010 06:57 barth wrote: You missed my name  I haven`t posted since I don`t feel like over analyzing with almost no information at our hands at the moment. I also don`t want to have everyone throw shit at me right off the bat. He also missed MyHeroNoob, who as far as the search function is concerned, hasn't done a single thing all game. | ||
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On May 20 2010 07:52 LunarDestiny wrote: Radfield, kill this person, ok thx. Give us the result man. Finally something concrete is happening. | ||
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On May 20 2010 08:06 LunarDestiny wrote: If you want to waste the kill, sure. Yep. That confirms it. Kid's useless. | ||
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Last romantic's post-death post is kinda interesting. Tells us that leaders have a veteran ability or something that might have applied to lynches? If there is a vet ability, that means that YT is going to be pushing pretty hard on days 3-4 to grab the lynch vote. If that's the case, YT will probably stop at 5 or so members, because as player numbers drop that'll be all they need to grab a lynch vote. After that its a question of them reducing the number of other players in the game down with vig hits and by trying to kill leaders. If they are starting with a single leader, by contrast, they might play it differently, but frankly I think its relatively unlikely that YT would be given the same format as the other 3 factions granted that ROTK worked on the premise that YT was scary early, and that beating them down was an early move. | ||
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But are you the DT? Lol, you don't need to be because someone had the balls of taking a shot at me last night which was blocked by a medic who msged me. I'm pretty sure someone in your group is raging that they didn't kill me and this is pretty predictable rage on your part. Oh well. | ||
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If you were a neutral vig and took a shot at me you probably wouldn't have went ballistic. Hence why I'm pretty sure you're in YT. | ||
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Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents. But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that. You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain. I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT. Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me. Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same. So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though. | ||
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Now he's scrambling because he knows that he'll basically flip me and a medic as legit if he dies. | ||
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Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information. | ||
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On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote: lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee Sup Tricode. Getting desperate? Its easy to be a cool cucumber when you know you aren't lying like me :3. Your plan was pretty good too besides for the medic protection! That's why I know who's on your team. Pretty sure he'll try to make a push soon because he's scared. I'd prefer checking to see if you're neutral vig or insane DT, though, because that might mean I'm wrong :3. See, I know I'm legit. So If I die, we waste a turn, then if we kill you and you're vig or insane, we waste another turn. Then another 6 people have been recruited, and probably a few more vig shots fired, which means that at this point we'd essentially have zero way to win as neutrals. Given that I'd rather not chance my victory on getting picked into the right side, I think confirming what you are is a good idea. | ||
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On May 21 2010 14:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Down to the infidel L HAHAHAHA OH WOW. EXACTLY AS EXPECTED. | ||
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On May 21 2010 14:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I know duder. I'm like the perfect spy, sneaking around with a knife waiting to stab you STAB YOU. You and I both know that any game that you die is hilarious, as such im going with callers theme of hilariously fucked up shit and saying lets kill L Bro. I love you thinking. Hilariousness is 100% assured here. Unless Tricode's neutral vig or insane, in which case its going to just be facepalmy. | ||
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Remember leaders main goals should be recruiting not killing off regular townies. The more townies they get the bigger armies they can have and better chances of killing off other leaders so they can win. So why would I want to do the opposite of that? Unless you're a FACTION LEADER. Are you seriously asking me why a grunt in the YT would call me a faction leader if he shot me and knew that the leader who had died thusfar had night armor? YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT. Not only would YT get a player to look like a legit DT that could be used to stall a turn or end the game, but you'd monopolize today's lynch and throw all suspicion off your leader for at least an entire cycle. Like I said. If I'm a insane DT i was not informed of this and seems like it would be something I would be told about and have a chance at least in being told how to make myself sane. Caller JUST told you that you're wrong and you bring this up again? Lol. Also why would I lie if I was a vig or would even want to kill you if I was a vig? Don't recall that earlier "L hates me" comment you made? Did you seriously just ask "IF I SHOT YOU, WHY WOULD I WANT YOU TO DIE?"You posted like 3 times prior to day 1 ending. All of your posts were spam besides the one that said that I hated you, yet you think you had no reason to try and hit me? Seriously, you're like a retarded pretzel with all of these contortions. You're enraged that your vig shot failed and that you didn't guess what I was. Pretty obvious. | ||
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On May 21 2010 14:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Oh I forgot e) massive troll If this is the case, I'd give him massive props after the game for being ballsy enough to try to drive a bus down my face off a lie. | ||
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On May 21 2010 14:31 Tricode wrote: LOL! Caller stated nothing for one. Don't manipulate what Caller said. This is what Caller said: Everything you had also just said is irrelevant and doesn't prove anything other then you're trying to put focus on me to try to delay the inevitable finding of you being a Faction Leader. Also what candidate was there for this day or who had any suspicion on them? No one! We had no candidates! You're the only candidate and suspicious person! Everything you have said so far are lies and that's why your whole argument is flawed! Uh, I haven't lied at all. Caller just flat out told you you're wrong. I'm not trying to do anything. I want to kill you to confirm my suspicion that BC is the YT leader. I think there are probably 3-4 of you total. Probably 3 because one of you had a night hit. Because of that I'm expecting an attempt at a wagon, but we'll see if the real townies up and deal with this. As for the candidates; there were a few. MyHeroNoob was mentioned, for starters, but that's kinda irrelevant. If the medic wants to step forward and reveal himself to clear this up, that's his call, but I'm not in the least lying about having been shot tonight, and I'm not in the least lying about you having an incorrect rolecheck on me. You basically fucked up and outted yourself. This is why we used to have lynch the claimant as the meta during mafia 2, but then people got smart and stopped fake claiming. Then you thought you had a free fake claim because there is no role list and you thought I protected a vig hit because of night armor. You're at the point where you've been caught in a lie and you know you'll die if you don't get a train going soon because there's someone else (maybe 2 if your team's vig wants to pony you up?) that knows I'm telling the truth about what happened last night. Regardless, I'm going to sleep. Don't twist yourself into any more pretzels to justify your lies. Its probably bad for your back. | ||
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So no, I'm not scared of you dying. I'll finish off with this: Tricode, I waited a while to see if you would note something: I've said that there are three people involved in this mess: A Vig. A medic. Me. You claim that you're a DT. Okay. If you're a DT, then you'd probably have realized that if I'm telling the truth, there is a vig and a medic at play here. You, however, not for a single moment, ask the vig to step up. But why? Why wouldn't you do that? If you could show that there was no vig in the game, or that there was no medic, you'd be able to claim that I'm lying about that. But you don't. You tell the medic to shut up because you know he'll validate my story and you ask nothing of the Vig after more than a page of back and forth. Why? Well its pretty obvious. You are, or are on the vig's team. Even the Insane DT can be ruled out because the insane DT would have wanted a vig to step up immediately for the town's sake. Based on that, and the fact that you didn't even bother to question that there was a vig when I said there was one, or that the vig wouldn't come out because he was on your team, its pretty clear you're YT or vig. QED. Nice try. | ||
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Its pretty clear. If the vig steps up then he isn't you and when i flip legit he'll be on the block after you flip. That would take out half the YT team. If you were the DT you'd be GAGGING over the possibility of confirming your own role. Instead you're asking for the opposite. You're lying and aren't asking the questions which a real DT would. Was entirely certain that once you faked this claim you'd fuck up. And there you did. Now your team's pretty much dead. Well done on handing us the YT on a silver platter. Once again: QED. Sleep time. | ||
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On May 22 2010 02:51 ~OpZ~ wrote: I don't know if Lu Xun visited you or not. He just said Tricode is full of shit. But if Lu Xun DID visit you, you are full of shit too. @_@ Confusing. Odd you would get so many visits, I guess because BC has been so damn quiet this game... Anyone else notice that? Re-read Lu Xun's role, please :3. | ||
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Someone already claimed vig to me in pms and 1 medic pmed me. I also don't have night armor. Alternatively you're telling the truth and SIX people visited me last night. Party at L's place, no doubt. Caller, this game is hilarious. | ||
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On May 22 2010 03:13 BrownBear wrote: Lol what 6 people? I only count 3, possibly 4, unless I'm missing some people. I count Tricode, Abenson, and me, and possibly Lu Xun. who else visited? So, I'm gonna say this is my official stance: If Lu Xun wants to say "I protected L, lay offa him ya fuckers", then I will switch my vote off of Tricode and over to L, and I vote we lynch Tricode for lying like that. If it was a medic who protected L, that would only block my night hit - not Tricode's powercheck, which would mean L is lying, and thus is still probably a faction leader, so my vote remains unchanged. If there are no roleclaims about that shit, then I'm gonna stay with what I know - I tried to kill L last night, it failed, it's most likely that it failed because of night armor, so he's most likely a faction leader. Alternately L, if you want to roleclaim and explain why Tricode is full of shit, either in this thread or by PMing me, I'm totally willing to listen. I have no night armor and 2 people have claimed to hit me. that's 4. Lu Xun and Tricode potentially. 6. Abenson who tried to yellow kill me. 7. I really wish I was methman. That woulda been awesome. | ||
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I'm quite happy that a bunch of people have outed themselves with lies for no benefit. Gan Bei, motherfuckers. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:09 Hesmyrr wrote: I didn't message him. I think L is bullshitting on that part. L is not bullshitting on that part. Its the medic's call if he wants to come out, but if your ability does negate night hits, it might explain why I'm not dead after 2 vig hits. That said, I don't think that's possible, because I have a PM in my inbox from caller stating that I took a hit and got saved, a vig messaged me rather quickly thereafter, then brownbear, who is not the vig also claimed that he hit me. So yeah, medic, if you want to reveal yourself, its your call. I can see why you might want to wait until night to do it, to see if XeliN flips as a leader or not, but its your call. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Based on this L is lying about taking a hit (as he wouldn't have known unless they claimed to him) Tricode is lying (because he would not have been given any info) Your lying about your ability Caller fucked up how your ability works Abenson isn't confirmed. So, either caller fucked up, or we have 4 people in a giant cluster fuck of everyone bullshitting. Just wtf. The Vig notified me that he hit me. The medic claimed to me that he stopped it. Both happened prior to my first post after day broke (i came back to like 4 pms in my inbox) Then brownbear claimed he hit me too, which is why I KNOW someone is lying. Tricode, similarly, has to be lying because he flat out got my role wrong. Caller did pm me, and its possible that he fucked up, but I dunno. Maybe Hesmyrr didn't read his role properly or something. So yeah, at least 2 people are lying, maybe more. Either way, party at L's place. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I should also stress, if caller fucked up hesmyrrs power use in relation to medics and vigi's then chances are he would have fucked up a dt use. Depends how he fucked it up. If brownbear is telling the truth, then caller DID nullify all actions, but told me about the one that woulda been blocked anyways. | ||
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On May 22 2010 05:46 Radfield wrote: L, it's time for you to roleclaim. If you are NOT a faction leader, then who are you? I'd like to know your name + role. That would at least lend you a bit more credibility. My initial feelings are this: Tricode believes he is telling the truth, and I'm have a hard time imagining why he would lie, if L is not a faction leader. Can someone please tell me what Tricode's motivation would be to lie about L being a faction leader?? Xelin has been awfully quit, and I think it's time for you to claim as well. If you are a leader I sure as hell hope you didn't recruit me last night and then not tell me about it. I'd be seriously pissed if you get daykilled and I go down with you.... Also, if you roleblocked me you should let me know. Via PM or whatever, because that is important info pertaining to what I did last night. Also, it seems with the clusterfuck that happened last night at L's house, we can't really draw any meaningful conclusions because of Hesmyrr's role. It's inconceivable that that many people could be lying at this stage in the game. Hesmyrr, I like your plan, but I think your putting too much emphasis on your interpretation of your role. Obviously people got notified last night of actions that went down at L's house, so your power is slightly different than you imagined. It's very possible that Tricode did in fact get off an accurate role check. For now I still think we should kill L. Unless he offers up roleclaim and it turns out to be somewhat legit. Tricode, if you were insane or paranoid, you absolutely would NOT be informed in your role PM. That's how it works. I'm still not sure how a role cop can be insane/paranoid though? He would just get a random role or something? Was it good for you at least.....? I kinda have a poison pill role that'll be useless if I tell people what it is, so its your call if you want to know. | ||
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On May 22 2010 06:00 XeliN wrote: Oh and I wasn't stalling you can ask L, I already roleclaimed to him way back in the long, long ago so he can confirm the "stalling for time to think up a role to use" is not true. Although as I am supporting his lynch he might not be obliged to co-operate. To elaborate on this, essentially I contacted L asking if he wanted to team up in this game, seemed like it might be fun//worthwhile trying to get a small group of people who are all working together behind the scenes, irrespective of who recruits them e.t.c the entire game they will be working to make it so they end up winning. He seemed less than enthusiastic about the notion however, and the way he responded made me think he had a leadershippy role. I've played a few times on epicmafia yeah ^^, not played many games there but can be fun to kill some time. You were pretty much like "You're a cool guy, lets be friends" and I was like "k" because I never talk much behind the scenes to people that aren't confirmed. I dunno how that has to do anything with the roleblocker claim. | ||
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On May 22 2010 06:10 XeliN wrote: Did I claim Roleblocker to you back when I PM'd you, yes or no? Lemme check | ||
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I'm a tactician who can see through Zuge and Suma (whatever the fuck that means, you one of those characters?) and thus can basically roleblock anyone at night. Yep you did. | ||
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That part's kinda important because it suggests you aren't a DT at all. | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:34 Radfield wrote: Can someone please explain why Tricode would lie about L being a leader?? Because he probably hit me and had the hit blocked by Lu Xun, then figured that a role with night defence had to be a ruler. Since he's had it out for me since prior to day 1 ending, it makes sense that he'd try to wagon me. If he's right? Awesome, he gains massive cred. If he's wrong? Tricode doesn't think about such things. Or much in general anyways. | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:36 LunarDestiny wrote: Hmm... that leads me asking the question: Why did Caller gave L a character in her other name (子) (think middle name) We all got the our characters in last name then first name. ex. Zhao Yun(趙雲) and not Zhao Zi Long(趙子龍) me Xu Zhu(許褚) and not Xu Zhòng kāng(許仲康) Fishball gave you the name for Sun Shangxian. Not Sun Ren. Sun Ren is 孫仁. She has a different name in ROTK, afaik. | ||
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No man, in ROTK, the chinese novel, she is called 孫夫人 Uh, that means "Lady Sun" as far as i can tell with my 0 chinese knowledge, which isn't her name. | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:59 Falcynn wrote: According to wiki, Lady Sun and Sun Ren are one in the same. Well, then. Case closed. | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:59 Falcynn wrote: Doesn't stop people from visiting me, otherwise we'd have had like 7 dead people last night. Only stops certain night actions. Actually, now that I think about it, L mentioned that his role was a bit of a "poison pill" which I'm guessing is like methman from Ace's game or bomber from most other mafia games. In which case, yeah he should probably be day killed, and you (tricode) can be vig'd. | ||
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I know, that's why I bitched out caller for giving me this shit. | ||
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Trez is Cao Pi and Falcynn is Sima Yi? This means we have to kill both of them in a few days since they're the ones most likely to rebuild Wei. Also I am Guan Yu. Anyone jealous? Wait, what? Factions can come back from death even if we kill their leader? How the fuck is a neutral victory even remotely possible if factions start reforming around day 3-4? This is fucking horrendous. | ||
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On May 22 2010 09:33 Hesmyrr wrote: That is why we kill all faction leaders within day 3-4, even if we assume the worst case scenario where all factions are in fact unlynchable (doubt it). It shouldn't even concern you anymore; you will die tonight. As much as I will likely die unless the same 7 person clusterfuck happens again, I'd prefer if neutrals won because then its a moral victory for me. That said. If Tricode flips YT grunt and not leader and XeliN isn't a leader we're going to be in big trouble. Another 3 people will be recruited, probably including abenson and the other admitted vigs. Only hope is that recruitments start overlapping and vig hits nail recruited players. | ||
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On May 22 2010 10:05 BrownBear wrote: I think Tricode is a low priority target - by all normal logic he's scummy, but in this game, just daykilling scum isn't going to cut it since they can make, and as long as there's more than one faction they'll outpace our daykilling. If we don't have a better lead to go on, he's probably dead, but I'm confident we can figure out a better target than him. There's still almost 24 hours left in the cycle after all. BC's a better target than he is if you want to take a shot at a leader. | ||
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On May 23 2010 02:23 BrownBear wrote: Ahh ok, I see now. So L has claimed Trez PMed him about a vig hit, which... is or is not true? Trezguet, can you weigh in here? If you say "naw, this is a lie" then L's coffin is sealed. I was pretty sure he vig hit me, but in retrospect he might have DT checked me because the pm is ambiguous. But yeah, I'm going to die anyways :3. | ||
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On May 23 2010 03:16 Fishball wrote: We'll deal with it after this Night cycle. I actually don't care if there are two dual claims right now, let's just focus on our task one by one. Also, just for the record, I never said I'd flat out quit. I said I'll be willing to give up my spot for a more enthusiastic player if need be. Nah, you guys can deal with it during the night because I should be daykilled, which opens all the vig power and anti-YT power to be used on people who have double claimed. | ||
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On May 23 2010 03:53 BrownBear wrote: I agree with Hesmyrr, watcher should stay VERY secret. Also, Everyone listen up: IF YOU HAVE MEDIC OR ROLEBLOCKING POWERS, DO NOT USE THEM ON ANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CLAIMED THE SAME NAME. That means, Fishball, MyHeroNoob, DarthThienAn, or TwoToneTerran. Anything that will prevent us people with nightactions from using our night actions on them is BAD. We need this information by tomorrow to continue our streak. Also, I'll say it now, and say it again later if Caller decides to make me, since I think I've won the dayvote pretty much: ##Kill: L Peace out, Scum Quan  My goal in killing the founder of the neutral nation is complete. That is what you get for going against the will of the people to unify the land. | ||
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On May 23 2010 05:04 LunarDestiny wrote: So only 3 hours till night begins. I have a bad feeling I won't make it pass the night... There are 2 assassins. 1 is known. XeliN's probably going to be hit tonight so he's kinda forced to block brownbear, which means there's probably 1 left. He'll probably shoot cao pi. YT is probably going to recruit abenson, liu bei i have no idea. So no, you're probably going to survive unless you do something dumb like target lu bu. | ||
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He did. And sup trez, I'm not dead yet. | ||
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I want to see if I broke the 7 mark. I'm betting on 6. | ||
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Still, I did almost everything in my power to keep L (thus me) alive for another day before surrendering, so I wonder how it would have went if I really had roleblocked L. I would still have ditched him for another faction as soon as I could just because he is such an big obvious target - it's like he magnetically attracts investigations and attacks, statistically proved by night 1 Rofl. | ||
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On May 28 2010 01:11 XeliN wrote: L you shouldda snapped up on my "be my friend <3" offer. I was being legit, whether u were neutral or leader I would have teamed, although at that point the possibility of a neutral victory didn't really enter my mind. Nah. I don't make it a point to make shady deals off random fishing expeditions in any game i'm in. | ||
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On May 28 2010 08:07 Radfield wrote: I don't actually think very many visited L Tricode Brownbear that's all I know Tricode, Brownbear, Abenson, Trezguet, OhN at the least, and I'm probably forgetting some others. But yeah, Lu Bu woulda been awesome. | ||
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On May 28 2010 10:03 Caller wrote: lu bu lost his powers because diao chan visited him night 1 LOL LOL LU BU GOT SOME THEN GOT LAZY. YOU CALLER ACTION LIST PLZ. | ||
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Just like you play for the town if you're town and you play for mafia if you're mafia... guess you can't do anything about that one. We typically banned any player that gave up their team in a fit of rage. Why that isnt' being done here is probably because the teams weren't permanent. | ||
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On May 29 2010 06:42 Qatol wrote: I'm guessing it's partially that and partially because this game was run outside the ban list. Caller didn't complain, so I'm just not going to worry about it. Kinda figured as much otherwise I woulda made a stink about LR's after death post. | ||
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