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On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote: Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying.
You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about.
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On May 20 2010 02:17 ~OpZ~ wrote: Well...It's probably because they keep their recruits...that's kinda scary...But if they recruit me then I guess I would have to be the best yellow turban I can be, right?
On May 20 2010 03:01 BrownBear wrote: Well, yeah, YT are not BAD per se... but the imba-ness of their ability to keep their recruits that's drawing the ire of people right now.
Also, lol at everyone who thinks I'm the YT leader.
I know that they get to keep their recruits, but there should be only a couple of situations that one would be against the YT; Either your a leader of a certain faction, or you just hate playing for the YT (Like some people hate Wei/Shu/Wu).
Seems like a lot of people are just having blind hate for the YT right now.
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On May 20 2010 03:04 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote: Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote: Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Okay, if you insist, let me put it in neutral perspective then. First since there are three recruiters vs one YT recruiter, neutral's chance of becoming YT are much lower than possibility of becoming other faction. If YT manages to grow unabated, it effectively means that everyone not belonging to YT is literally screwed. This demands two strategy: 1) eliminate YT which is likely to become your enemy, or 2) beg for YT to recruit you. This is up to personal choice, but I don't know, I find first idea rather better than second idea. Second YT recruiter is different from normal recruiter in one thing; they can get killed from choosing faction leader, while other three faction does not have to worry about such things. Third Something happened, and YT leader is out. With him revealed chance of his victory decreases dramatically- wow, playing as neutral, it's time to change alliance! Oh wait, you are stuck. Too bad. Even when you are aiming for faction fight, this demonstrates YT is horrible for your individual survival. And if we are going to play as Town, well, getting rid of strongest cult is obv.
I would agree of offing YT first if we were aiming for the "neutral victory", but if not, I could care less. All the posts I've made so far regarding the YT, are just questions about our current situation. By all means I'm defending them. It's just a funny observation to see so many people jump on the wagon.
*By all means I'm NOT defending them.
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On May 20 2010 03:20 Ace wrote:I mean most people suck at finding scum, why would you even be worried about the YT leader being found? 
Oh, that's why I've never brought this up and am not going there. Like mentioned in my post above, I just find this situation interesting. Sheep herd effect?
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Fuck, I edited my post. Meant to his quote and edit in a new post.
(*By all means I'm NOT defending them.)
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On May 20 2010 03:26 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:22 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 03:04 Hesmyrr wrote:On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote: Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote: Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Okay, if you insist, let me put it in neutral perspective then. First since there are three recruiters vs one YT recruiter, neutral's chance of becoming YT are much lower than possibility of becoming other faction. If YT manages to grow unabated, it effectively means that everyone not belonging to YT is literally screwed. This demands two strategy: 1) eliminate YT which is likely to become your enemy, or 2) beg for YT to recruit you. This is up to personal choice, but I don't know, I find first idea rather better than second idea. Second YT recruiter is different from normal recruiter in one thing; they can get killed from choosing faction leader, while other three faction does not have to worry about such things. Third Something happened, and YT leader is out. With him revealed chance of his victory decreases dramatically- wow, playing as neutral, it's time to change alliance! Oh wait, you are stuck. Too bad. Even when you are aiming for faction fight, this demonstrates YT is horrible for your individual survival. And if we are going to play as Town, well, getting rid of strongest cult is obv. I would agree of offing YT first if we were aiming for the "neutral victory", but if not, I could care less. All the posts I've made so far regarding the YT, are just questions about our current situation. By all means I'm defending them. It's just a funny observation to see so many people jump on the wagon. What neutral victory? My post was specifically addressed to someone who wants to play individually instead of aiming for neutral victory. Your wording seem to dismiss my arguments by classifying it into my neutral policy, and make me suspect you either are budding up for the YT recruitment or has a role that is aligned positively with YT.
Sure, if you want to "live" in this game, and survive to the end. Killing YT would also be a good choice just in case they recruited you and made a boo-boo. Personally, I don't care. I don't have a goal in this game, and surviving till the end is not one of my goals.
It's my fault for reading the game rules so late so I nobody but myself to blame. If anyone wants to take my spot in this game, I would gladly give up my spot.
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Too many typos, argh That's what happens when you're eating lunch. *)
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On May 20 2010 03:37 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:30 Fishball wrote:
It's my fault for reading the game rules so late so I nobody but myself to blame. If anyone wants to take my spot in this game, I would gladly give up my spot.
Wait, why are you bouncing? I don't understand.
I'm not bouncing. I'm just saying if anyone else that is interested in playing this current setup, is welcomed to take my spot.
I've mentioned quite a few times since yesterday, the lack of a common "goal" or "loyalty" for the majority of the players. Do-whatever doesn't interest me. The proposal of a neutral victory was indeed interesting, but realistically not viable.
So far, I'm just curious about the YT situation, hence my questions. Hesmyrr has brought up a few good points, so that is pretty much it for now.
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On May 20 2010 03:45 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:38 Hesmyrr wrote:I'm sorry you feel that way.  This setup surprisingly doesn't have that much flexibility in its early game tactics, so yeah as always I will blame Caller for creating a setup which encourages individual play. At least I have no motivation to commit myself to some unknown group led by mysterious leader; this is why I was pushing for the neutrals, but like I said looking at the setup I can see why some people would not like it. k modkill it is
I'm not afk quitting or anything, just saying if a more passionate player would want to take my spot, I would be happy to abide.
I did sign up for this game, so I'll stick to the end. But if you think its viable to end it for me right here, that would work too.
Up to you.
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Choice would be simple for me. Lynch LR.
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On May 20 2010 04:18 BrownBear wrote: LR will probably just get modkilled, though... I guess since it's first day, we could get away with that, but otherwise why waste a KP on someone who is just going to die anyways?
That's what I thought at first too, but he did voted, so I'm not sure how this works.
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On May 20 2010 04:46 Bill Murray wrote: You don't want a victory for the neutrals?
I don't feel like pulling the reading comprehension card again from Mini Mafia-1... Read again, I never said "I don't want".
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On May 20 2010 05:18 L wrote: Fishball's pretty much spamming while saying he doesn't want to play. Given he and I have had altercations in the past I'm wondering if that's intentionally done to make it look like he doesn't have a power role, or whether or not he is indeed a leader.
My posting period on weekdays is pretty much the same everyday, usually during my lunch hour in the office. I don't know what our past has to do with this, unless you are a leader and think I wouldn't want to be under you so I want to quit?
Also, I'm pretty confident that everyone in this game has some sort of power from their roles. If I were a leader, I wouldn't need to go emo. Then again, you can argue this could be an act, and here we go in circles again.
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On May 20 2010 05:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 05:21 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 04:46 Bill Murray wrote: You don't want a victory for the neutrals? I don't feel like pulling the reading comprehension card again from Mini Mafia-1... Read again, I never said "I don't want". I didn't understand your wording, which is why I asked
Ok, so I didn't quote your entire line, so just reply exactly to what I quoted, great.
You already made a conclusion in your head by saying you were disappointed at me. Your question afterwards isn't exactly a question.
If you were to word your statement as a question, you should have said,
"Don't you want a victory for the neutrals? If not, I would be disappointed in you."
Not the other way around.
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On May 20 2010 05:30 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 05:28 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 05:18 L wrote: Fishball's pretty much spamming while saying he doesn't want to play. Given he and I have had altercations in the past I'm wondering if that's intentionally done to make it look like he doesn't have a power role, or whether or not he is indeed a leader. My posting period on weekdays is pretty much the same everyday, usually during my lunch hour in the office. I don't know what our past has to do with this, unless you are a leader and think I wouldn't want to be under you so I want to quit? Also, I'm pretty confident that everyone in this game has some sort of power from their roles. If I were a leader, I wouldn't need to go emo. Then again, you can argue this could be an act, and here we go in circles again. Nah, its more that I know you're prone to rage, hence why It kinda makes sense that you'd rage a bit. Your logic on the past page, however, hasn't been as unrefined as it normally is when you rage. So its mostly a question of whether or not you're bluffing. This post basically states that you've got some kind of role, too, so I dunno.
Yes I do have a role. I'm pretty sure everyone does. That was my point. I'm replying with this small window opened in the office, so my replies are a bit hasty. Lunch hour has passed afterall.
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On May 21 2010 07:53 Iaaan wrote: Well, I guess Cao Cao being killed will make me happy in the future if I get recruited, but right now, I don't really care. I'm not really sure what to be posting, if I had good analysis on someone, it doesn't really benefit me, or anyone else who is neutral, to share it.
Pretty much what I've been trying to say yesterday.
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Lu Bu will go rage and kill everyone now.
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On May 21 2010 13:22 Iaaan wrote: only problem I have with tricodes thing: Why did you decide to announce L's role to everyone if you are neutral? What did you hope gain from it? Makes sense if you are on someones team already, even if you do have detective abilities.
Why not? A lot of neutrals are interested in killing leaders.
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On May 21 2010 13:47 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 13:45 Tricode wrote:On May 21 2010 13:41 L wrote:Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. So, how doesn't that apply to you? I'm not in the least worried about what you flip because I'm 100% positive it isn't a sane DT, because you're lying :/. Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN! Sure you do. If you flip yellow someone's already outted himself as your leader. He probably realizes this and that's why he's actively lurking despite being around the site. If you flip neutral vig, you're right, you have nothing to hide but you'd be flat out wrong about me. If you flip insane DT or something similar, that'll explain itself and we'll have even less information. I don't recall there being a role like insane dt since nothing like that was announced in the rules and nothing states how I can gain my sanity or figure out such a thing. Other wise all dt's would be useless if you go with that logic. Your logic is flawed. FAIL lol i didn't mention anything in the rules wheeeeee
Go update your player post.
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On May 21 2010 22:19 Abenson wrote: First of all, I would like to point out that L is not yellow Why? I am Taishi Ci, a Yellow Turban killer. I have the ability to visit a person each night, and if he's yellow, he dies. I visited L, and he didn't die. I still believe he's a faction leader, but I want to confirm he's not yellow.
Ooo, you are 太史慈. I like this dude.
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