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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 05:51 GMT
#581
Playing this without PMs sure is harder.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
April 19 2010 05:53 GMT
#582
On April 19 2010 14:51 IntoTheWow wrote:
Playing this without PMs sure is harder.


Because its easy to ignore posts. Its harder to ignore pms.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 19 2010 05:53 GMT
#583
On April 19 2010 14:49 Incognito wrote:
Sigh* maybe I never will pick up the amount of attention that Ver gets...O wait a second...nobody listens to Ver either! Ver can I join your club?

I listen to Ver!
<3 Ver...
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
April 19 2010 05:56 GMT
#584
1. there are way too many useless posts in this thread -.-. it's really annoying to read through 1-2 pages of Jugan arguing with the mods about his posting quality... (nothing against you, just one of the more recent examples). I has a life, I can't spend it ALL reading this thread.

2.
On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.


I'd like to highlight this... makes me think Inf and Nai are connected? Why else would he bother to defend Nai so specifically? To me, Nai is just another inactive, I probably would have worded my post as like "why are we killing inactives?" or "why are we killing one specific inactive? There are too many to decide from" etc. etc.

3. Also, I didn't mind Caller's first few posts from a few pages back... then again, I don't really know what those terms mean ^^. But at least he's contributing.

4. Ace seems to be an arrogant elitest jerk, but that doesn't really tell us anything about his allegiance =p.

5. I voted for myself in the other thread for 2 reasons: I don't know who to vote for, and I don't think we'll get a majority anyway. Plus, the MKs should take care of more inactives than we want in the first day =[ (iirc still like 4+ left??). If we want to lynch someone in addiction to the anticipated MKs, that will give us more info, but... tis a nother possible townsperson =[. Normally, I would say lynch someone random for sure, but the whole modkilling changes things. after all, i doubt the mafia members would be dumb (or uninterested) enough to get modkilled for inactivity.

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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 05:59 GMT
#585
Where is the line drawn for modkilling? voting?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 19 2010 06:01 GMT
#586
On April 19 2010 14:59 IntoTheWow wrote:
Where is the line drawn for modkilling? voting?


Total inactivity, caught cheating, refusing to listen to a mod, castrating baby flamewheels, the list goes on.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 06:01 GMT
#587
For clarification, I have read the first post 3 or 4 times, and it says modkilling occurs when not voting, but my question was, is there modkilling if someone just votes but doesn't post or just makes 1 post per (mafia) day?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 19 2010 06:03 GMT
#588
On April 19 2010 14:47 Fishball wrote:
Voted RoL for now.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 10:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Well it is sure good I didn't get gang raped early for inactivity.



fishhhhballllll. Where art thou
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 19 2010 06:04 GMT
#589
On April 19 2010 15:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 14:59 IntoTheWow wrote:
Where is the line drawn for modkilling? voting?


Total inactivity, caught cheating, refusing to listen to a mod, castrating baby flamewheels, the list goes on.

Hmm I thought I had added in there that you must post at least once in the main thread and vote before the day cycle was up. Either way, that's how it goes. Those who haven't posted in the main thread are few, but we'll see how votes end up in the next 19 hours.

Also if you do manage to castrate a baby flamewheel, props to you. Those little things are pretty damn hot.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
April 19 2010 06:07 GMT
#590
Maybe I should count how long it takes for someone to actually respond to my post without prodding.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
April 19 2010 06:07 GMT
#591
On April 19 2010 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 13:44 tree.hugger wrote:
On April 19 2010 12:32 Scamp wrote:
Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules!

Oh dammit.

I thought they had been put back in for some reason. I double checked, of course. Obviously.


Fun note, we had already discussed this earlier in the thread via my own major post. So you failed on two counts. Reading is fun.

Yeah, I found that discussion too.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 06:16 GMT
#592
On April 19 2010 14:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
I even asked him for reasons for his vote, and he said "my vote is as serious as it gets". Not like I didn't give him a chance.


Incorrect. You stated "It's hard to take you seriously". I replied with "My vote is as serious as it gets." I said that because if I wasn't serious about lynching him, then I obviously wouldn't have voted for him.

On April 19 2010 14:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
@ Jugan, I already explained some reasoning besides voting inactives. But since the thread seems to be kind of derailed, I guess I'll give you more, with the consequence of running some luring: accusing inactive might bring the silent mafia out.


I'm sorry, but, as I stated earlier, only a fool would fall for that. This is because you can't possibly put someone under suspicion for being less active than others on the first day. Additionally I also pointed out that those who are being falsely inactive will be easy to keep track of later and thus easily disposed of.

On April 19 2010 14:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
Also someone mentioned, not asking for information, so I figured I would search all the info myself. If you disagree with my analysis you are free to open up all the thread like I did and read all the posts user by user to try to get something.


I do that often, I wish you would include information you gather from doing so instead of tailoring it to fit your needs.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 19 2010 06:18 GMT
#593
On April 19 2010 14:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
1. there are way too many useless posts in this thread -.-. it's really annoying to read through 1-2 pages of Jugan arguing with the mods about his posting quality... (nothing against you, just one of the more recent examples). I has a life, I can't spend it ALL reading this thread.

2.
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.


I'd like to highlight this... makes me think Inf and Nai are connected? Why else would he bother to defend Nai so specifically? To me, Nai is just another inactive, I probably would have worded my post as like "why are we killing inactives?" or "why are we killing one specific inactive? There are too many to decide from" etc. etc.

3. Also, I didn't mind Caller's first few posts from a few pages back... then again, I don't really know what those terms mean ^^. But at least he's contributing.

4. Ace seems to be an arrogant elitest jerk, but that doesn't really tell us anything about his allegiance =p.

5. I voted for myself in the other thread for 2 reasons: I don't know who to vote for, and I don't think we'll get a majority anyway. Plus, the MKs should take care of more inactives than we want in the first day =[ (iirc still like 4+ left??). If we want to lynch someone in addiction to the anticipated MKs, that will give us more info, but... tis a nother possible townsperson =[. Normally, I would say lynch someone random for sure, but the whole modkilling changes things. after all, i doubt the mafia members would be dumb (or uninterested) enough to get modkilled for inactivity.



I stopped reading this post after it literally started with "player a makes player b look bad by defending them" then moved onto him saying he thought someone was innocent and he defended them against lynch...

total hypocrisy
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 06:19 GMT
#594
On April 19 2010 14:49 Incognito wrote:
Sigh* maybe I never will pick up the amount of attention that Ver gets...O wait a second...nobody listens to Ver either! Ver can I join your club?


I replied to your post.

note: Sorry for DP (double-penetration), I missed this one while I was browsing through earlier.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 19 2010 06:21 GMT
#595
On April 19 2010 15:07 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 19 2010 13:44 tree.hugger wrote:
On April 19 2010 12:32 Scamp wrote:
Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules!

Oh dammit.

I thought they had been put back in for some reason. I double checked, of course. Obviously.


Fun note, we had already discussed this earlier in the thread via my own major post. So you failed on two counts. Reading is fun.

Yeah, I found that discussion too.


But ignored it, forgot it? interesting...
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 19 2010 06:22 GMT
#596
u let me get double penetrated last game jugan
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
April 19 2010 06:22 GMT
#597
On April 19 2010 12:09 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 12:06 IntoTheWow wrote:
On April 19 2010 12:02 Jugan wrote:
On April 19 2010 12:00 Incognito wrote:
Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours.


yay <3 incognito.

I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy.


Reason?


reason: I don't like him, and he hates goats.


On April 19 2010 12:21 IntoTheWow wrote:
Hard to take you seriously


Seems like I missed and you too :p




Well my plan more or less worked I got 2 of the people on my list to answer. And one was you, who I had some suspicious on!




About tailoring: It adds some thought into the information and sparks discussion, maybe I should have written a lot more per each user, but I was kind of in hurry cause I was studying while doing that post.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 06:30 GMT
#598
My apologies, I thought it was in fact incognito who made the original inquiry. Also, the goat was a joke from earlier in the game.

On April 19 2010 15:22 IntoTheWow wrote:
About tailoring: It adds some thought into the information and sparks discussion, maybe I should have written a lot more per each user, but I was kind of in hurry cause I was studying while doing that post.


You should be careful what you you tailor, especially in a thread-only game. Even moreso when you are levying accusations. In such an event, you should state so sooner, as opposed to waiting a lengthy amount of time while missing several inquiries in which you are able to do so.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
April 19 2010 06:33 GMT
#599
On April 19 2010 15:18 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 14:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
1. there are way too many useless posts in this thread -.-. it's really annoying to read through 1-2 pages of Jugan arguing with the mods about his posting quality... (nothing against you, just one of the more recent examples). I has a life, I can't spend it ALL reading this thread.

2.
On April 19 2010 07:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I actually thought Caller's first post was pretty good because it rerailed the town discussion away from BM's plan, which had been beat to death. He also identified the sort of non committal passerby posts that people need to watch for and remember. However, I'm not sure how he arrived at the conclusion that Ace's strong accusations are the signs of a pro-town player. The wifom part was incorrect, and the part about inexperienced players posting more is basically an obvious truthism; pointing out something like that has no bearing on his innocence or guilt and so garners no points from me.

and why Nai Protoss all of a sudden? he's just about as useful as all the other semi-inactives. Killing him doesn't really tell us much at all, i don't think...and at least he's posting now that we're talking about him in the thread.


I'd like to highlight this... makes me think Inf and Nai are connected? Why else would he bother to defend Nai so specifically? To me, Nai is just another inactive, I probably would have worded my post as like "why are we killing inactives?" or "why are we killing one specific inactive? There are too many to decide from" etc. etc.

3. Also, I didn't mind Caller's first few posts from a few pages back... then again, I don't really know what those terms mean ^^. But at least he's contributing.

4. Ace seems to be an arrogant elitest jerk, but that doesn't really tell us anything about his allegiance =p.

5. I voted for myself in the other thread for 2 reasons: I don't know who to vote for, and I don't think we'll get a majority anyway. Plus, the MKs should take care of more inactives than we want in the first day =[ (iirc still like 4+ left??). If we want to lynch someone in addiction to the anticipated MKs, that will give us more info, but... tis a nother possible townsperson =[. Normally, I would say lynch someone random for sure, but the whole modkilling changes things. after all, i doubt the mafia members would be dumb (or uninterested) enough to get modkilled for inactivity.



I stopped reading this post after it literally started with "player a makes player b look bad by defending them" then moved onto him saying he thought someone was innocent and he defended them against lynch...

total hypocrisy


I pointed that out, because no one else has pointed it out. I didn't say whether I thought Caller was mafia or not - all I said was that I didn't mind his logic / posts. I have no opinion on whether or not he gets lynched.

If you meant #4, I was just making a comment on what I thought about Ace.

I don't really see how that's hypocrisy. Inf defended Nai (who might get lynched) and implied that we shouldn't lynch him ... why? "because he's as use[less] as all the other semi-inactives." To me, that's suspicious - why defend a random stranger so specifically? If someone's against the idea of a day 1 lynch, they wouldn't care who we were discussing we should lynch, they would be much more general about it. And I'm not defending Caller from a lynch, I'm just saying that I agree with some of his posts/analysis. Says nothing about his role in this game.



And I doubt you actually stopped reading the post.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 19 2010 06:33 GMT
#600
Blah blah blah consolidation i know....

Anyway, technically your plan was different because I wasn't hiding or trying to be falsely inactive, I was already talking, discussing, sharing insight, and trolling already.
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