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:[ I hate for long it takes for mafia games to start, and how long the cycles are. I feel like it would be more fun if you had a mafia game where the lynch cycles were in spans of like 30 minutes lol. | ||
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On March 31 2010 04:07 Vivi57 wrote: ##vote bm## in the last game where he was town, he posted a bunch. This game he hasn't posted at all. Actually, in the last game I was town... Ace's game... I didn't post nearly as much as I normally do. I am in 4 mafia games currently, college, have a girlfriend, and sleep all day. If you all give me reason to, I will post huge walls of text like I have been trying to recently. I will scumhunt if not scumhunted myself, in which case I will use an AtE instead of returning the FoS. Sure, that may be considered a scumtell, but it is my style of play when I am pro-town. It is what I would want someone to do for me, as I feel like if the scum try this style of play it will appear to be fake and they will not be able to carry forth the energy required to pull it off if it is the case. L, who would you like to see lynched this game? vivi, why the vote for me? you can't blame inactivity, the game just started! flamewheel, what should be some general rules of etiquette the town should follow in your opinion? take into consideration things like roleclaiming, when they should happen (if at all), or gives some general advice, in your opinion, of what someone should do to successfully scumhunt. I am going to be active, though, don't get me wrong! I just got my role PM. I hadn't realized this had started. I am not going to vote seriously yet, but I'll throw one around just for shits and giggles. ##Vote: KF## | ||
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didn't work first time | ||
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we got each other killed day 1 in ace's game and we were trying to help each other! lol | ||
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I've given up trying to vote on KF91 | ||
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trying to blend in on obvious town... I was just waiting for someone to try to jump onto that guy after me, but I didn't expect it to be you, madnessman. shame on you for falling into my trap . unvote; ##vote madnessman## | ||
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##vote madnessman## | ||
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On March 31 2010 23:05 Foolishness wrote: Which is odd since you hardly said anything about him before other than "he's sketch", I'm not really sure that qualifies as an actual reason to vote for someone. your mom is sketch! ohhhh hahahaha you are being a lot more talkative than you normally are. what happened to the "i'm not going to be speaking until day 2 or 3" style that you normally use? I guess, since you were the godfather then, you are not a mafia roleblocker now?  | ||
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I bet vivi is surprised I didn't "OMGUS" his vote. | ||
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i can also say that i'm clean, but that still leaves vivi/rol in that pairing, which is highly possible in my opinion as both are veteran players. Is it random who is red? If it was, I'd think I'd have been red by now! | ||
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Flamewheel and CynanMache imo. | ||
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##vote flamewheel91## | ||
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On April 01 2010 09:01 flamewheel91 wrote: What do you mean, Bill. With that last statement, you've lost all credibility. I sat here for 20 minutes waiting for a detailed, well-written post on your thoughts, and instead you give me dribble. See, saying things like "you're being suspicious" and "you're not making sense" doesn't mean shit to any sensible person without you giving a reason. I'm behaving suspiciously under FoS? Your claim? You should give a reason why, else it's a worthless statement. I like how you've (ostensibly) been here the whole time, yet after 20 minutes shoot back with that last little gem of yours. Saying "I'm going to keep my vote on you unless..." is a perfect way for you to dodge activity, something the town doesn't want. Are you still randomly throwing your vote on me? Are you actually committed to a target? If you are still being random, you're a cool cat. You've contributed little and accused a lot, though your senseless accusations have drawn defenses. If you've committed, you also are doing a poor job in showing that, with your lack of reason. So far in this argument you've made one claim against me: I'm being "buddy-buddy" with Cynan. Awesome, that could be scumtell! However, I've shown with my post about you saying you're "helping L" that your reasoning is flawed and hypocritical due to similar conditions, yet you don't see me jumping on you for being mafia do you? I'll ask you again, nicely, to please explain your reasoning behind your sudden and unabated accusations against me. By dismissing what I'm saying offhand, you not only invalidate your own arguments but also cause yourself to look more untrustworthy. As a bonus, I've got my first two "analyses" done. Ironically, they are on Bill and Cynan since I'm moving down the page. Bill Murray: + Show Spoiler + As said before, Bill is playing differently, much differently this game. Admirable, I’d say—experience works wonders. No longer spamming, no longer having a shitfest with L (okay well it was actually more one-sided before with Bill trying to ingratiate himself). In particular, the lack of spamming. What does this mean? I’ve never seen Bill in a game as mafia, so I cannot fathom how he’d post. Is this new style of posting his ‘mafia style’? A general rule of thumb is to post similarly as mafia and townie, since then people can’t pull the “well he’s using a different play style.” Bill’s certainly different, and he’s drawing attention. Is he mafia trying to cover up under the guise of improvement? Is he a townie actively trying to improve I don’t know, but at least he’s stirring discussion what with his “traps” and “random votes.” Oh, he does slightly call out Foolishness, except for I read that as more of a defense for Foolishness than FoS  Tacked on since the start of his little call-out on me: see above. If he is being random, while it is conducive to drawing defense, he also doesn't have to present his own ideas, nor does he commit since it's all "random." If he's committed on me (which he says he has), then he is not offering suitable reason. Suspicion up. Suspicion? + Show Spoiler + Relatively high, given his different posting style, his ingratiating attitude toward L, and his lack of real contribution besides randomly throwing around votes. Oh, and as I type this he’s accusing me. Wait, so you’re just jumping off what L said? Huh??? Talk about “buddy-buddy” actions… re: see what Versatile says (lol). I'm not convinced enough about Bill in order to vote him at this point (wasn't overly suspicious until his recent actions) but he's getting there. CynanMachae: + Show Spoiler + Dislikes random kills. Awesome. FoSes on RoL. Awesome as well. Checks up on KF91 to glean information. Awesome x3. Stirs some discussion with the FoS on RoL (I pick up on that, as can be seen above) and draws KF91 more into the light. I’m still suspicious of him though, despite his largely pro-town actions, due to the fact that his contributions to discussion have been minimal. He needs to start talking more and place value into being more active in the town. Suspicion? + Show Spoiler + Relatively low, given his pro-town actions. Of course, anybody can be ‘pro town,’ but Cynan is not very high on my suspect list. your whole reason for putting FoS on me is OMGUS style like you're going to vote for me because I did it to you. that is a scumtell. No. It wasn't a defense of Foolishness at all, it was showing that he is playing differently and was FoS, though he's playing differently from when he was red, so I guess that's a good thing for him? I just want him to explain his actions. I am also not randomly switching votes around. I really believe you might be red. You ask for justification, and i'll give it to you. Of all the people I have put FoS on (nearly everyone), you have squirmed the most. Bravo, considering madnessman was pretty squirmy himself. | ||
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keep squirming. | ||
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that's why we need to lynch you, flamewheel. | ||
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you want me to take my vote off you? explain why I should vote for RoL and i'll consider it. When's the deadline? | ||
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On April 01 2010 12:55 L wrote: I just got back from a friend's birthday party. Didn't think I'd be there so late, but that's that. Mario kart and indian food mix very well. Check my post times on the site; I was online and posting between 3 and 7pm EST ish while I was in my school library, then left for the party which started at 7:30. I find it kinda interesting that I put my vote on someone really late to avoid people wagoning based purely on me voting, and specifically say that its just there to get reactions, but then bill murray goes off the rails in his crazy train and switches his vote target a sixth time. Prior, he/vivi had been trying to kill cynan, and then both drop cynan as a target and vote for flame/me. Vivi's vote in particular is interesting; Instead of voting against RoL to stop the result of the 'bandwagon' that I specifically took pains not to start, he votes against me. Not only does he vote vote against me, but he doesn't bother trying to convince anyone of flame's innocence. Between vivi and bill murray, the two switched votes approximately 10 times. That bill would push so hard for someone's lynch is completely different from his town behavior, but his style has been changing rapidly over the past few games. Vivi, by contrast, is just stupid, so I can't tell if his hypocritical condemnation is genuine or intentionally misleading. If RoL flips town in the future, it is likely that Foolishness is mafia. Mafia would have adored the opportunity to seem as if they were swinging a vote away from a townie if there was no risk that they would cast the deciding vote or that they would be setting up their ally to die. Sorry bout' bein' away, but them's the breaks. i'd rather have a bad lynch than no lynch though... | ||
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On April 01 2010 10:21 flamewheel91 wrote: Meh, two new comments. At least one of them is from Foolishness^^ Dealing with Bill: Squirming involves flailing, and that's what you have done, not me. I've countered your arguments in a methodical and logical manner, and you have (until now) refrained from returning the riposte. So glad you couldn't have posted this the first time instead of looking for an obvious way out. I'm also so glad you can float around your new terms such as FoS, AtE, and OMGUS (oh look at how good Bill is now!) but you see here, I haven't voted for you. That's the key thing here, eh? Furthermore, an OMGUS attack is exactly what you're doing against me. While I argue with logic and reason, you just write off what I try to say, and just now are responding. Please note that I said you were calling out Foolishness and that I read that as a defense. Nice try twisting my words though. Once again, so glad you give your justification more than an hour late. If/when I die and flip green, expect to get some shit for it. @Foolishness: I am in no way thinking you're trying to get on my good side, since that shouldn't exist in mafia^^ I'm not personally suspicious of Cynan as of yet (as listed above) but the same went for what I said about you: the longer he goes without posting now, at a crucial time, the more likely he is to be mafia. that made me think he might be green, and i actually looked at the vote list, and saw Flamewheel and RoL at 3 votes. I thought of voting for RoL really quickly, but I am not sure if he is mafia or if he is green just like i wasnt sure about flamewheel. If flamewheel was green, why did I not change my vote, you ask? Simple: I don't want to pull a largely anti-town move with a last second vote swing. I have been notorious for this in the past (in XX), and I want to prove to the town that I am learning from my mistakes. In retrospect, perhaps I should have done this, as it would make me appear to be pro-town. I don't want to do something obviously that's going to get you all to chastise me for WIFOM though... I'm trying to help my image, and if I appear red, so be it. L is actually RIGHT again. When he says "that bill would push so hard for someone's lynch is completely different from his town behavior, but his style has been changing rapidly over the past few games." I found this remarkable. I don't mean to toot anyones horn, but, toot toot. You really are a good character analyst. | ||
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sorry, when he said this to me, it made me mad. i am editing only because of my language in these posts, as I don't want to hurt his feelings. | ||
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On April 03 2010 09:10 KF91 wrote: Alright, sorry about that; I've been a little busy, but I can write up a post now. The town is in a really bad situation now; losing a townie (I guess some of that blame could be put on me) and then losing a detective during the night. The town now has two days left minimum to kill off all the mafia, unless we screw up again today and kill another townie. So I've read through all the posts to check out the behaviors that people are exhibiting. (This post is quite long, so please, don't get mad! :D) And Flamewheel, if I made this post during Day 1, I wouldn't even have been able to vote you, considering how fucking long this post is. So, sorry about voting you because of your wordiness, hopefully we don't have any hard feeling against each other XD Vivi57 + Show Spoiler + At this moment, my biggest suspicion is on Vivi. He really hasn't said much during this game, and most of his suspicions are based off of past games or not being active in the thread; something that he is practicing as well: On March 31 2010 04:07 Vivi57 wrote: ##vote bm## in the last game where he was town, he posted a bunch. This game he hasn't posted at all. His first real post in the game. Bases suspicion off of his posting style. Maybe he BM could have been too busy to post when the game started? But in that case, Vivi himself could be too busy to post in the thread as well. I'll let this one slide. On March 31 2010 13:22 Vivi57 wrote: Right now, I'm seeing cynan as our best target. He basically says the day1 lynch will suck because of lack of information. Perfect way for scum to hide and makes a good excuse for not contributing. Then he says the rol drawing attention is the thing that he noticed most. Odd that trying to create discussion and drawing attention to himself, both very pro town reads, is the thing he noticed most. The states a very obvious fact that we should compare behavior to previous games. This looks super characteristic of the "I'm mafia pretending to contribute" gameplan. ##vote CynanMachae## The thing is, I've been preaching the "lack of information" idea throughout Day 1 as well, but he doesn't point me out at all. And at least Cynan was brave enough to voice his opinion about what will happen in Day 1. Vivi himself is the person that fits into the characteristics of "I'm mafia pretending to contribute." On April 01 2010 09:18 Vivi57 wrote: you know, I was considering putting my vote on flamewheel, but then I looked more closely between him and L. L really hasn't done much of anything this game and explicitly said he was sitting back and waiting. Then instead of trying to do much behavioral analysis, he just shows up and does some crap with votelists and magical theories then votes flamewheel. I'm still not happy with flamewheel's vote on rol because I really do think he's town, but at this point, I think its really likely that flamewheel or L is mafia. At this point, because of his relative inactivity and lack of useful posts, I'm going to go for L. ##Vote L## His second time changing his vote; not that I have anything against people changing votes, but just pointing that out. In this post (Which was made after L's 2 rung apart "string theory"), Vivi talks about how L made up some random votelist crap (Which at first, I agreed with as well), and his vote on flamewheel. From what I see, L was voting flamewheel maybe because of his wordiness(?) (He wasn't really explicit about his reasons, or maybe it was because he wanted to see if his theory was indeed right) Vivi could have also voted for L in reaction of maybe he was able to figure out the mafia pairs. If you look at who L predicted the pairs would be, he said it could be RoL and Vivi, the only two people who ended up voting for L in the end. Although RoL did vote before the whole string theory came out, it's just interesting to see how things worked out. Right after the Day 1 post, Vivi's aggression towards L continues: On April 01 2010 11:26 Vivi57 wrote: can we please lynch L now? Let's not let him pull an ace and live for another day. It's funny, because this was followed up with the mafia killing L. Right after the Night 1 post: On April 02 2010 12:13 Vivi57 wrote: lets lynch L just to be sure he's not zombie mafia now He continues to talk about L. Now maybe I'm not aware of some previous incident that happened in a previous game with L and Vivi, but even if there was, this seems very suspicious to me. Vivi does some random votes, then as soon as L posts his "string theory", attacks him even after he is dead. This behavioral change puts Vivi up pretty high on my suspicion list and I will probably vote for him when I cast my vote near the end of Day 2. RebirthOfLeGenD + Show Spoiler + At the beginning of the game, he posts a couple of short replies, not really containing any content or deep thought. Then he votes L because his posts are "a pain in the ass to read". On March 31 2010 11:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I NEED INFORMATION TO WORK WITH, ITS WHY I POST. At this point I have nothing to say. There is no plan to establish, everything obvious has been said. No lynch is a dumbfuck move. Don't lynch RC blues because they aren't mafia. If someone RC blue and you are that role. Counterclaim immediately. Trading blue for red is beneficial to the town. ALRIGHT? He then complains that there is not enough information to work with at that time and that he can't say anything (At this time we were just talking about inactive people and my previous mafia games experience) This post was made 2 hours before Vivi's post about Cynan. And yet, Vivi does not mention RoL at all in his post. Come to look at it, Vivi's only mention of RoL was: - Saying that RoL gets angry and reminds him of Ace and, - RoL seems like a townie to him There is no other mention of RoL in any of his posts other than that. Back to talking about RoL. After the quoted post above, RoL makes no posts until Day 1 is over, claiming that "there was nothing to talk about", although L's "string theory" was still floating around. He then gets really anxious see the Night 1 post, but I don't think there should be any suspicion rooted in that. And finally today, he argues with Foolishness, because Foolishness accuses him of inactivity. In summary, my suspicion of RoL being is pretty high as well. Not as much a]s Vivi (I guess not enough evidence yet), but we should keep an eye on his as well. Bill Murray + Show Spoiler + My God, he's such a hard person to analyze. His post are so erratic and he rarely gives much info on why he decided to vote someone (He switched vote 4 times in Day 1) He constantly changed his vote around in Day 1, but then stays with Flamewheel because of his "squirminess" (Which I agreed to, and later based my vote on), but that's all I have. I am trying my hardest to try to make out his behaviors throughout this game, but I don't think I can with his type of posting style. If anyone would like to try and shed some light on him (I haven't played with him before, as with anyone else in this game right now..), please do and I would love to read an analysis of him. So my suspicion of him being mafia is moderate, but things will change once someone could inform me of him XD CynanMachae + Show Spoiler + He starts off in this game with not really posting much and but mostly trying to figure out my background history in TL Mafia. He does vote RoL because of his spam and trying to "start up drama", but trying to see reactions toward votes does seem like a useful strategy, as demonstrated by BM (But that ended up back firing as Flamewheel was indeed green). He then doesn't really talk at all, except I believe for two posts where he defends himself, but other than that, he hasn't said anything with substance. I can't really put any type of suspicion on him, mostly because he hasn't said much at all. Foolishness + Show Spoiler + The man I refer to as my opposite. He has been against most of the posts I have made during this game: - Random lynching - Town inactivity (Saying that I'm pretty inactive as well) - Voting for Flamewheel because of his long posts I'm not trying to sound accusatory when saying that he's against what I say, I'm just stating facts here. He then goes on to vote for RoL, saying that it's opposite of his previous playing styles. He later posts about how we should concentrate our suspicions on specific people in Day 2. On April 02 2010 04:51 Foolishness wrote: As L said, post more people. This is what he ends with. Although he himself has not put many posts into this thread. But as I can see, he is starting to pick up in the amount of posts during Day 2, so we'll see what will happen. madnessman + Show Spoiler + Our first post analyzer. Great post analyzing from around only 30-35 posts into the game, most of which weren't really helpful at all. On March 31 2010 15:35 madnessman wrote: on the other hand kf has shown no sign of participating and aiding the town other than "i'll wait for ppl to post first"... In such an early stage of the game, i think kf's blatant lack of effort or quality posting is indicative of mafia trying to hide--or otherwise a townie with sheer disregard. sigh, i guess with these time constraints, it's enough of a basis for me to vote for him. ##vote KF91## I'm sorry I couldn't write up and analysis with only 35 posts before me. XD Just pulling your leg XD Anyways, argues with BM about inactivity, although he himself hasn't posts much during Day 1. He ends off with a great analysis of BM matched up with Katy Perry's "Hot n' Cold". From what I can see, I think think madnessman really likes me. He continues to put suspicion me, mostly because I didn't lay any suspicions yet and because I have a "lack of effort". But no hard feelings from me, I have little to no suspicion on madnessman at this moment. Final Thoughts + Show Spoiler + I really believe that Vivi57 and RebirthOfLeGenD are mafia, but of course things can change. I will read up on everything that happens until tomorrow evening and make my vote at that time. this guy = MLF or MTF or whatever the fuck that guy's name is IMO | ||
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I am moderately suspicious of vivi I am very suspicious of the people who are making lists of people and giving their suspicions of every single individual like we are supposed to care what they think. It just feels like the way I would see some person really deeply into policy, like zona, play if they were mafia. It comes across as very sour and odd to me, and I don't like it. Would you all try to pick one person and go in detail on them next time as opposed to putting FoS so spread around that noone can take you that seriously? | ||
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KF91 has been erratic and actively lurking all game, we should definitely lynch this guy and eliminate his scummy behavior. | ||
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You all can say "you've been wrong", but I really haven't. Before flamewheel died, I realized he was green, and asked him how long that we had to change our votes. When I went to change my vote, the post was already overdue. Trust me until I'm wrong please. LETS LYNCH KF91 | ||
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On April 04 2010 10:58 KF91 wrote: Alright, good luck with the rest of the game when I flip green :/ Why couldn't you have said this BEFORE you were about to die? | ||
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On April 04 2010 22:36 CynanMachae wrote: So, you'd have believed him if he said "I'm green, don't lynch me"? yes. it's the bill murray defense. | ||
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On March 30 2010 13:09 L wrote: I'm glad you answered your own question. Also: way to go on throwing down a wall of text to say that we should look at how people behave in order to do behavior analysis and that voting no lynch is bad. In other news: the sky is blue and chocolate is delicious. loved this post | ||
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On March 31 2010 13:22 Vivi57 wrote: Right now, I'm seeing cynan as our best target. He basically says the day1 lynch will suck because of lack of information. Perfect way for scum to hide and makes a good excuse for not contributing. Then he says the rol drawing attention is the thing that he noticed most. Odd that trying to create discussion and drawing attention to himself, both very pro town reads, is the thing he noticed most. The states a very obvious fact that we should compare behavior to previous games. This looks super characteristic of the "I'm mafia pretending to contribute" gameplan. ##vote CynanMachae## Also, now that bm has joined the party, he's acting like himself again and he's slightly pro town to me. As long as he's posting, there's no reason we should lynch bm day1 because it should be painfully obvious in a day or two if he's mafia based on his posts. jeez this makes me not suspect vivi though.... and wow i shouldnt be defending people with 5 people left in a game... so confusing. | ||
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On April 01 2010 12:55 L wrote: If RoL flips town in the future, it is likely that Foolishness is mafia. And guess who spams it off the page? Madnessman. Foolishness and Madnessman ##vote foolishness## risky move here, but someone's got to do it. | ||
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On April 02 2010 13:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Oh boy, the joy. First, let's start it off like this. ##Vote Foolishness## I have just read the entire thread and I am ready to bring down rape. Foolishness, you have literally posted more bullshit then I have. I would like to admit I was wrong, I figured there was nothing to really analyze or do during the first Day, I was completely wrong and for that I am sorry flamewheel. Flamewheel's style was so PAINFULLY town I probably would have voted to kill myself to save him. The guy posted so much stuff that when he actually got shit to work with (meaning lynches and more behavior) that getting a tell on him would of been easier then finding an underage whore in vietnam. Anyway, enough of that shit. Here is why I am alive. Foolishness, you posted shit all game and showed up and voted me and tried to transfer ALL the blame onto Flamewheel. Through the entire first day you posted nothing except negative comments, but nothing that actually attacked someone hard. You were trying to draw attention away from yourself. Then when you finally had to vote you vote for me then take a non committing stance with some sort of bullshit cop out of "Well.... if hes green, fucking flamewheel's fault" Get out of my game with that shit yo. If anyone would like I can post by post pull up all his bullshit, but he has like 9 posts. Feel free to read them all it will take like 5 minutes. Next order of business. The second highest suspects I have are KF and Billy. Although for some reason I Can't fucking remember why. So I am going to have to reread my shit and remember why. I got lazy and wrote suspects in a word document and didn't bother writing why. Now I fucking forgot. Edit: Typo's T_T And then Foolishness and Madnessman spam the thread onto page 11. I also bet they won't vote for each other... Also: 3 votes for flamewheel91 (first): kf91 L bill murray 1 vote for kf91: ?madnessman? 2 votes for l: rebirthoflegend ?vivi57? 3 votes for rebirthoflegend: cynanmachae flamewheel91 foolishness I feel that foolishness put his vote on RoL as a result of him being able to "defend a townie" when it's obvious to him that both of the lynch victims were town players (find his wording against flamewheel, it's really cute the way he says he KNEW flamewheel was green) | ||
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i'm really gonna vote to lynch my own mafia team..... yeah right | ||
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On April 07 2010 05:34 Foolishness wrote: I didn't know flamewheel was green. On April 02 2010 15:16 Foolishness wrote: Flamewheel was obvious townie in my eyes. I want Cynan to make some legit posts. | ||
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and madnessman, with 5 people left, i don't think people give a fuck if i post 8 times in a row. it's not like they were spam. i was building cases. if you don't like it, we can lynch you. | ||
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yeah. think about it. | ||
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On April 07 2010 11:00 madnessman wrote: dude BM, tbh, i feel as though your being pissed at me is affecting how you're playing the game. gonna vote for the guy who's gonna get modkilled ##Vote CynanMachae## and just the insanity of this is crazy do you understand what LyLo is? | ||
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who says there's a medic? there could be no roleblocker and no medic? isn't it F11? u are making terrible assumptions that seem scummy to me | ||
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One good thing, though, is that if people ever get to 3 votes on someone (before the deadline), I will be able to be like "one of you is an idiot townie who needs to take their vote off" because there's no possible way you're all 3 town and thus the person you're voting for is probably town too... like where i know i'm green, lets say vivi, foolishness, and madnessman are all voting for cynanmachae... that would let me know cynanmachae is green, and therefore i have two confirmable greens... that would let me and cynan vote for someone, and say, "hey, the other green guy, don't fucking lose the game for us moron". the only problem here is it would be 2 v 2 and it'd be on us to convince someone... it's hard to convince someone whose mind is made up. I'm assuming that we have until the deadline, though, and that if any point someone hits 3 votes they don't auto-die. If my assumption is not correct, then the above scenario is void. In that case, people who are green should play like I am playing, and refrain from putting two votes on the same person. Following that, it pretty much confirms CynanMachae as mafia to me. Him putting a 2nd vote on someone is really suspicious to me. I would love to just jump right in with vivi, but i'm wary of this scenario: madnessman cynanmachae both voting for vivi57 who is voting for lets say cynanmachae with bill murray then foolishness votes vivi at the last second and laughs at us. to be honest, though, i don't know who is what. early play indicates foolishness as red to me, but his late play is making me think otherwise. early play made me think madnessman is green, but he feels scummy as shit right now. another scenario i'm worried about is vivi57 foolishness vs madnessman cynanmachae i would probably fuck up and vote wrong here people need to talk more, we need to figure out who is what, and we can't do that if townies dont try to help each other go over all the scenarios to figure out who is town and who is mafia | ||
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On March 31 2010 15:35 madnessman wrote: ugh crap. I've just realized that I most likely won't be able to get on tomorrow before the day cycle ends, so i will have to cast my vote now. i don't have enough of a basis to vote for flamewheel, esp. since IF he is town, the effort he puts into his posts indicate that he will strive to participate and contribute as the game goes on. on the other hand kf has shown no sign of participating and aiding the town other than "i'll wait for ppl to post first"... In such an early stage of the game, i think kf's blatant lack of effort or quality posting is indicative of mafia trying to hide--or otherwise a townie with sheer disregard. sigh, i guess with these time constraints, it's enough of a basis for me to vote for him. ##vote KF91## you're green, aren't you? | ||
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On April 01 2010 11:19 Foolishness wrote: The main difference in not voting Cynan is because Cynan can be held accountable, RoL cannot. Cynan has actually taken the time to defend himself and respond to posts u ready to hold him accountable yet, or you gonna active lurk for longer? | ||
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On pages 7, 8 Foolishness and Vivi both try to start different wagons. Vivi tries to start one on L, and Foolishness tries to start one on RoL. Innocent? possibly, but let's look at it from the perspective that they're mafia. Wouldn't they want veterans to get bandwagoned? Yes. Yes, they would. | ||
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possible pairings: foolishness vivi foolishness madnessman foolishness cynanmachae vivi madnessman vivi cynanmachae cynanmachae madnessman On March 31 2010 13:22 Vivi57 wrote: Right now, I'm seeing cynan as our best target. He basically says the day1 lynch will suck because of lack of information. Perfect way for scum to hide and makes a good excuse for not contributing. Then he says the rol drawing attention is the thing that he noticed most. Odd that trying to create discussion and drawing attention to himself, both very pro town reads, is the thing he noticed most. The states a very obvious fact that we should compare behavior to previous games. This looks super characteristic of the "I'm mafia pretending to contribute" gameplan. ##vote CynanMachae## Also, now that bm has joined the party, he's acting like himself again and he's slightly pro town to me. As long as he's posting, there's no reason we should lynch bm day1 because it should be painfully obvious in a day or two if he's mafia based on his posts. also notice how he tries to retract his obvious attempt to get a quick lynch of a townie? suspicious | ||
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possible pairings: foolishness vivi foolishness madnessman foolishness cynanmachae vivi madnessman cynanmachae madnessman | ||
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"Right now I also believe Cynan is suspicious since I do not think he has defended accusations against him well. He's worthy of a check, but I think he's the person we can hold responsible and make sure he's posting over the next day." That's the second one i've noticed, and i'm not even halfway through the thread properly | ||
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On April 02 2010 15:16 Foolishness wrote: I want Cynan to make some legit posts. and again... third time's the charm. Is it that unreasonable you're both mafia? | ||
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On April 06 2010 05:46 Foolishness wrote: madnessman should really be talking more well, fuck. | ||
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On April 06 2010 16:44 Bill Murray wrote: And guess who spams it off the page? Madnessman. Foolishness and Madnessman ##vote foolishness## risky move here, but someone's got to do it. | ||
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MVP: Foolishness by far LVP: CynanMachae | ||
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vivi voted for cynan and vice versa i am not saying it is not my fault we were put into this scenario, but when in it, i behaved the best of the three townies in relation to where my vote was put, and who i was suspicious of. I was suspicious foolishness, you, vivi, cynan in that order. I wasn't suspicious of cynan at all, and i was about 60/40 on you and vivi. the last time that i directly put someone as being red, though, guess who i got you and foolishness. vivi really should have kept his vote on foolishness | ||
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whatever. i can't understand why people aren't blaming vivi or cynan here | ||
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