Micro-MAFIA (The Second) - Page 17

On March 31 2010 13:22 Vivi57 wrote:
Right now, I'm seeing cynan as our best target. He basically says the day1 lynch will suck because of lack of information. Perfect way for scum to hide and makes a good excuse for not contributing. Then he says the rol drawing attention is the thing that he noticed most. Odd that trying to create discussion and drawing attention to himself, both very pro town reads, is the thing he noticed most. The states a very obvious fact that we should compare behavior to previous games.

This looks super characteristic of the "I'm mafia pretending to contribute" gameplan.

##vote CynanMachae##

Also, now that bm has joined the party, he's acting like himself again and he's slightly pro town to me. As long as he's posting, there's no reason we should lynch bm day1 because it should be painfully obvious in a day or two if he's mafia based on his posts.

On April 02 2010 15:16 Foolishness wrote:
I want Cynan to make some legit posts.

On April 06 2010 05:46 Foolishness wrote:


madnessman should really be talking more

On April 07 2010 21:20 Bill Murray wrote:
i find it suspicious of some things you wouldn't notice at first assuming vivi and foolishness are both mafia: vivi tried to get a quick day 1 lynch on me by throwing a vote on me before I was active based upon me not posting yet. That'd be fine if people wouldn't do it, but since it's me, he probably hoped for a quick lynch of someone he knew was town (remember, this is assuming they're mafia).

On pages 7, 8 Foolishness and Vivi both try to start different wagons. Vivi tries to start one on L, and Foolishness tries to start one on RoL. Innocent? possibly, but let's look at it from the perspective that they're mafia. Wouldn't they want veterans to get bandwagoned? Yes. Yes, they would.

On April 07 2010 06:52 madnessman wrote:
At this point, only RoL has voted for Foolishness to be lynched, and is hard on Foolisheness' case, so I think we can pretty much assume that this post is directed towards RoL. After this post, we see that RoL changes his vote to KF91. Later, Vivi SWITCHES his vote, when it's obvious that Foolishness is NOT going to get lynched, since it's a) close to the deadline b) everyone else OTHER THAN foolishness has voted, and obviously he's not going to vote for himself?!

What I find interesting is that when Vivi changes his vote from KF to Foolishness, he changes the vote count from KF:3, Vivi:2, to KF:2, Vivi:2. Why would ANY rational player put himself in that position, ESPECIALLY when Foolishness hasn't voted yet and could easily vote for Vivi? Obviously, he would have no reason to worry if he and Foolish are acting together and he knew that Foolishness would be voting for KF91.

On April 08 2010 00:06 CynanMachae wrote:
So what about Vivi then? I do agree that if you and Vivi were mafia, some of the stuff would have to be "staged" and some elaborate plan, but that's not that far-fetched since most of the accusations were easy to dismiss or not that elaborate

You are very quick to dismiss the Vivi/BM possibility. You say you and Vivi aren't mafia, but does that clear Vivi? I don't think so. You say you want me to post more and clear stuff, but the same can be said about Vivi who so far have been delivering far less.

On April 08 2010 07:41 CynanMachae wrote:
I might have missed it, but why did the BM/madnessman pairing seemed less probable?

On April 07 2010 23:21 Foolishness wrote:

Okay I'm going reiterate what I said. If Vivi and I are both mafia, that would mean we would have had staged the whole accusation/defense between the two of us. Do you really think the mafia would go through such an elaborate plan? Maybe, but given the fact that there have been some pairings that have been pretty chill at each other (madnessman/Cynan, BM/anyone but madnessman for example) I don't think this is likely.

Also consider, given the fact that RoL died after he was putting constant pressure on me, I'd be the number one lynch candidate right now. After Vivi voted for me today, I thought there'd be a huge bandwagon on me, and I was practically shitting my pants cause I thought I'd died for sure and then town would lose. If we were both mafia, there'd be no reason for Vivi to vote for me like that, he could just easily put the pressure on someone else, and there'd be no reason for him to accuse me (especially since me having to defend myself just makes it more likely I'll slip up).

And yeah, I want to hold Cynan to his word. So far he's half delivering. I think if he was posting more it would clear up a lot of confusion. I normally don't like voting early, but as BM said it's necessary to get things moving. Hopefully he'll talk some more and we can figure this out.

##Vote CynanMachae##

On April 08 2010 10:38 madnessman wrote:
I made a comment and BM wasn't very happy about it.



So I see that Foolishness is voting in alignment with Vivi...why doesn't that surprise me? I really don't think it would be a "huge, elaborate" plan for Vivi and Foolish to be working together. Why? Vivi defends Foolish when there's pressure on him, and only accuses him only when there's little to no chance he's going to get lynched. Sounds like a pretty good way for mafia members to disassociate themselves from each other. Also, I don't think we can take Vivi's voting pattern as coincidence. He puts himself in danger of being lynched, when Foolish is casting the deciding vote and could vote for him. If a regular townie thought Foolish was mafia, why would he put himself in a position where Foolish could easily get him lynched?

Looks like the game is in BM's hands now. It's wound up to be me and cynan voting against vivi and foolishness, with BM casting the deciding vote. I think I've brought up specific scenarios where vivi acts scummy, and acting as though he's in alignment with foolish, which would make voting for vivi a pretty safe bet. On the other hand, vivi and foolishness hardly provide solid reasons why they think cynan is scum. So I don't know what else I can say...Seems pretty clear cut to me, but BM I hope yo uthink all this over and make the right decision. Unless you're mafia then we're screwed with you casting the final vote :/.