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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 14 2010 15:43 GMT
#673
So wait...

Detective L, Detective Cobbler...Who did each of you search....

Gonna grace us with that knowledge?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 01:14 GMT
#713
On March 15 2010 08:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Random list of suspects

These are people that currently seem fishy in some sense that make them stand out in my mind. I will attempt to do my best at giving a reason why.

To start with Xelin
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He has been “active” thus far. As in he ran in the election, although it went no where.
On March 11 2010 07:30 XeliN wrote:
I'm going to put myself forward for office, wasn't going to as I have an essay due tomorrow and didnt expect to be able to pay attention to this but seems like I'm going to be able to due to my laziness//need to procrastinate.

I think I am good at analysing peoples allignment from their posts, and is something that I've gotten better at the more games I've played.

DT's being able to rolecheck elected also means that I could be trusted early on and co-ordinate with blues to get us a decisive win early on.

Also i'd quite like to play an elected position simply because I have not had the chance before and it would make the game more exciting (for me).

Elect XeliN !


Keep that bolded statement in mind. He basically wanted to be checked to co-ordinate with blues. Cool idea right? However, it puts him the center of the town circle. Seems like something anyone would want. Seems kinda legit until you

On March 15 2010 07:26 Abenson wrote:
From what I've seen so far, I think that:
I think that the most important part is to have the dt's post their results. I know that this is risky, but I think it's extremely important that we get information from the dt's.


Note: this abenson quote is because of the following

On March 13 2010 02:52 XeliN wrote:
Also L if you get voted in don't lynch Bill it would be a waste, going over the thread I would lynch Abenson

On March 12 2010 07:17 Abenson wrote:
Declaration:
I think it's really hard for me to post anything BUT 1-liners unless I have something important or I am trying to argue a point or protecting myself. Therefore from now on I will simply post 1-liners in order to state my mood/thoughts on the current matter

P.S. I'm kinda lazy to update my post in the archives



Town or Mafia this is just plain unhelpful, also I'd like to restate something I wrote way long ago that no-one really responded to. We need to put in place and agreed rule whereby people who are exceptionally inacitve or do not contribute are lynched. Forces the Mafia to post and forces town to try to participate, win win. thoughts?

He specifically wanted to lynch abenson if elected.

However, (keep in mind the abenson quote I posted above), he then agrees with him found

On March 15 2010 08:08 XeliN wrote:
well if BC was telling the truth about his role there is no reason he should not disclose who he has checked, instead of writing their specific role he could simply say "checked X and result was either Red//Townie" posting blue roles would be bad because it gives the mafia information but I can't see how it would not be beneficial to share the results in that way. I don't think it's right that he can get away with claiming DT and not provide any evidence that he is, seems dodgy to me.


This is what confuses me. He actively wanted to kill abenson, yet agrees that all DT info should be handed over to town. In this case he does want me to name who I’ve cleared, but not their role (ok, seems kinda cool I guess) except of how bad an Idea it is.

Lets spell it out simply. If someone is red, they get called out immediately, but as soon as you give a list of “cleared” players, especially this early, the mafia just has to continiously shoot them to prevent a town circle of any kind forming.

So in short, my main reason for suspecting him, he wants information/be in control of information that as town, he should know how it should be used, while at the same time agreeing with the person he wanted to kill if he had been elected. Not a lot to go on really at the moment, but enough to keep me looking at him.
Also as a minor note, he hasn’t kept his archives up to date at the time of this post, something minor but worth noting for reference later.


D3_cresentia
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This is based on my experience when I was a host and he played in my game. He was very active in my game as a town member, very active, and he also got elected. However, this game he has been fairly inactive and the posts he has made have generally been few and not very contributing.

Simply put, I expect more out of him as his performance the last time I watched him play town was much better than it is now.



Abenson
+ Show Spoiler +


The kid is posting nothing helpful, and is playing the exact same he was in the game with two mafia families that the kid was red in. Simply put, he is either a terrible player who can’t play without appearing scummy, or is mafia.



~opz~
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Kid is fishy as fuck.

I don’t want to quote his posts in the archive thread, but just go read the ones he has, seriously. He starts off moderately helpful, seems like a good start to the game.

Proceeds to then try and toss L under the bus, not very serious but still there.

Now, the important part of a post to bring up

On March 12 2010 02:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Oh, and Vivi for Mafia aligned bus driver. That's my guess for this game.

Hide nested quote -
On March 12 2010 00:41 XeliN wrote:
If Bill gets a vote and I end up with none I'm going to have to invest in some razor blades.

Out of all the candidates so far, apart from me cos I already know I'm town, Incognito seems to be the strongest candidate.

That said if BC//L are legitimately claiming blue roles and they do not get into office then they may end up being prime targets for the Mafia to hit so I would suggest medic protection on them might not be a bad thing until the DT's can verify, although I wouldn't put it past them to claim that just to try get into office whether town or mafia.


We can't afford medic protection on them. maybe bus driver....But we can't protect them. Protection is for the BG's...
The town will be forced to play this without our "vets" that we love.

GG, L, Incog, BC. If any of you live without being mayor (one of you most certainly will live through atleast one night), I shall be greatly surprised.

Deadly format for cruelty, but face it everyone, we all must step up and go after the mafia. Even if they aren't here to help us. So, with that said, if the vets would like to post some ideas that we should follow to win with this format, please do!



First, he pins Vivi as the bus driver. He specifies mafia bus driver, however, concentrate on the role itself. I point this out for two reasons. The only reason someone would off vivi so early (the guy is an odd day 1 choice) is they figured I was giving him information, or he was blue. This FoS pointed at vivi seems odd given the game play.

Next, he mentions that with this format, the town will most likely be forced to play without the “vet” players. And if any of us live day 1 he would be surprised. Keep in mind this line of thought. By L/myself/incog not dying (in this case more L as incog and I have bg protection) he can now come out and say the only way L wouldn’t take a hit is if he was mafia, or the like. The post feels like a placeholder to allow him to instantly jump on the three of us should any of us not die right away.

After that post he again accuses vivi of being the bus driver, as well as L of being gf. This is the second time putting FoS on vivi (confirmed green via death), and now L. Both of these have not been followed by any sort of reasoning to it, but just seem to be “contributing” posts.

He then has some random posts, one of which states that he should be getting checked by a DT. Why would he think this, and if he is green as he says he is, why would he want to be checked so quickly while in the same post claiming he will be afk potentially for a few days, or for a lot longer as he might get arrested.

He could really have had a shitty life situation (possible), however, the fact he was claiming he was getting a DT to check him seems weird if he was vanishing for days, he wouldn’t want to be checked if he wasn’t going to be able to play for awhile.



This is a general starter. There are a few others I have my eye on, but as I don’t have anything other than a general feeling without grounds, better not off trying to go anywhere with it.

Incog posted saying to DT check me. Off work, plenty of free time to be active now. Thanks. I mean, lol. I posted the vivi comment as a joke, quite literally. And please don't think I'm just showing up because I've been accused. I openly stated I get off work at 8.

I just didn't go to my friends house cuz I thought he was off, but he didn't get off til 9. They think I'm at home balling cuz the gf shit and just being a mopey fag, but it's a lil too hard to explain mafia and make it sound fun to anyone else.

I said the vivi as a joke, because they were talking about whoever asks questions about a role is usually that role, and vivi the the only person to include bus driver in his mayor statement
On March 11 2010 18:55 Vivi57 wrote:
nty at bm

i'm all in favor of a bus driver/dt mayor/pardoner


It was more of a joke, and it got ignored by Vivi. Seriously, I accused him of being bus driver. That was it. Big deal? Want me to accuse you of being DT? And L of being medic? Incog of being Vet, and BM of being Mafia? It was an empty accusation, Vivi wound up dead. If I thought he was MAFIA aligned BD, and I was mafia, I would have killed him. Hi?
-_-
I wasn't attempting to cast suspicion at L, just on vet players in general. I actually have ALWAYS defended L. Even a game when I was med, I spent the entire game protecting L. Support his clue analysis mainly though. Seriously, if I was mafia, I'd of hit one BG and one of you vets. Flat out. I doubt there are more than 3 medics, and even as a townie, I'm aware they all don't know who each other are protecting. Read the format...It's insanely hard to make a decision to protect, because all they mayor truly is is a vet with 3 lives, but his lives are players. Players that may or may not be protected.

Again, as I read up to down, but I already think I stated it, INCOGNITO, said to have a DT check me. No idea why. Yes, I felt I might of got arrested. I was head hunting my ex-gf's ex-bf like an immature faggot. Even pissed on the dudes driver seat/dash board/passenger seat. Of course I thought I could get arrested. I was fucking going ape shit crazy. And I work on weekends due to being in college, and said I would be extremely active this week. I'm on Spring Break. Go look, AASU's calendar, this is my spring break week, and I ain't going anywhere for it.

=/

I wasn't joking about my shitty life situations. They are fucking shitty.

And it really is as fun as you think to piss on someones driver seat and know that they drove their car 10 minutes afterwards.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 01:19 GMT
#714
And to further suspicion against myself, BC, you missed a post. I asked who was RC'd by our "detectives," you and L, specifically. I don't like how L flip flopped around his claim. "other dt." I'm not condemning him, I just agree with bm, and citizen, L looks suspicious as fuck.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 01:24 GMT
#716
On March 15 2010 08:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Suffice to say, two people are already cleared, and with greens dead, I currently have a list of 6 town aligned members of the 20 we originally started with.

6 would be, yourself, vivi, fulgrim, and the person you dt checked....that's 4....Not 6...

Others could be lying. =/

The others claimed via pm maybe?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 01:29 GMT
#718
On March 15 2010 10:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2010 10:19 ~OpZ~ wrote:
And to further suspicion against myself, BC, you missed a post. I asked who was RC'd by our "detectives," you and L, specifically. I don't like how L flip flopped around his claim. "other dt." I'm not condemning him, I just agree with bm, and citizen, L looks suspicious as fuck.


Read the thread, specifically the last page and top of this one and you will see why the RC findings arent released.

I know, I was just saying something to further myself as red. See the beginning of it where I say "And to further suspicion...?"

Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 01:32 GMT
#719
Oh, okay. Bus drivet claimed then. That's cool, I didn't know that. I mean, L said he knew who it was but I didn't know you did too. Now 6 makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 01:57 GMT
#722
omg, I respond and foolishness accuses.....and BC vanishes after some crappy responses to me....Seriously, PROVOKE ME AGAIN, I want to post, but I don't want to quadruple post. Shit, Ace would of kept the accusations rolling right along, provoking me, until someone else came along.

Seriously, get out of PM land, and speak a little in the thread, we all aren't privy to that side of the world guys, and it is really sapping the fun from this game.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 02:21 GMT
#725
Thank you L, for your words of wisdom. I will do it, yes yes. May take me a lil while tho. Don't want to run in a big circle.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 17:31 GMT
#748
Let's have a look how many people are attacking BC. Is he really that suspicious, or should we be taking a look at two people that have taken to trying to say he is worthless. That's bad for unity people.

Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 15 2010 23:34 GMT
#784
On March 16 2010 04:08 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 03:58 Versatile wrote:
On March 16 2010 02:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Let's have a look how many people are attacking BC. Is he really that suspicious, or should we be taking a look at two people that have taken to trying to say he is worthless. That's bad for unity people.



who else said he's worthless? don't be grouping me up with anyone else, yo.

and fcuk unity, wth is this the special olympics? are we in a queen latifah video? you don't get points just for trying, this isn't high school phys ed. loser.

i think BC is playing shady, i think it's shady he was the last viable candidate in the pool for mayor and he somehow won with a convenient DT claim, and i think it's shady he still hasn't posted concrete info to prove he is in a fact a DT. all in all, there's quite a bit of trees in here, and i'm looking for the sunlight.


Yeah, the ~Opz~ post was weird. "Unity" and too much shared information among unproven people is a bad thing. Everyone needs to play carefully until we get a breakthrough of some sort, either by catching a red or from the DT(s).

When 4 people come a long and instantly pick shit with one person it just seems like they are trying to incite the mob of inactive townies to go after him.

If Versatile and Foolishness equal mob, and go after BC by just saying he isn't doing anything, I think that's suspicious. Why not just pick some other random townie that ran for mayor to make a plan? Why put it on the guy that claimed dt? If he's truthful about dt it would make sense for the mob to want to attempt to get him distrusted. Kk? Get it now? Their are other suspicious people on here, let's look at them.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 16 2010 00:01 GMT
#789
On March 16 2010 08:39 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 08:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On March 16 2010 04:08 citi.zen wrote:
On March 16 2010 03:58 Versatile wrote:
On March 16 2010 02:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Let's have a look how many people are attacking BC. Is he really that suspicious, or should we be taking a look at two people that have taken to trying to say he is worthless. That's bad for unity people.



who else said he's worthless? don't be grouping me up with anyone else, yo.

and fcuk unity, wth is this the special olympics? are we in a queen latifah video? you don't get points just for trying, this isn't high school phys ed. loser.

i think BC is playing shady, i think it's shady he was the last viable candidate in the pool for mayor and he somehow won with a convenient DT claim, and i think it's shady he still hasn't posted concrete info to prove he is in a fact a DT. all in all, there's quite a bit of trees in here, and i'm looking for the sunlight.


Yeah, the ~Opz~ post was weird. "Unity" and too much shared information among unproven people is a bad thing. Everyone needs to play carefully until we get a breakthrough of some sort, either by catching a red or from the DT(s).

When 4 people come a long and instantly pick shit with one person it just seems like they are trying to incite the mob of inactive townies to go after him.

If Versatile and Foolishness equal mob, and go after BC by just saying he isn't doing anything, I think that's suspicious. Why not just pick some other random townie that ran for mayor to make a plan? Why put it on the guy that claimed dt? If he's truthful about dt it would make sense for the mob to want to attempt to get him distrusted. Kk? Get it now? Their are other suspicious people on here, let's look at them.


So who exactly are these "suspicious people"?

I've done said how I felt about BC getting assailed. While Zona is right, his first goal should be to find a red. He has a point. Cobbler doesn't need to build a town circle. He's the fucking mayor. And protected. He is his own mouth, so he should be checking and speaking, not the other way around.

I just found that Versatile and Foolishness, attempting to incite doubt this early was suspicious. BC's own list was rather suspicious, as I was the only person on the list that he went all out on trying to pin as mafia. He's wrong, but I can't prove that myself. Well I suppose him trying to pin me as mafia would make since for him to check me then right? Lol. Why didn't he check me if he already thought I was the most suspicious looking person. Now that I'm thinking about it...If I was suspicious to you (which like I said, BC went all out trying to implicate me), and you are fully protected so you can post if you find a red yourself, why wouldn't you check me. I would never have been voted as GF.

-_-...Anyway...No. I just found versatile and foolishness trying to start a riot that early into the day at Cobbler suspicious. Versatile's disappearance after the first day was another big thing to me. But she doesn't post much, right? Lol.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 16 2010 00:08 GMT
#792
So....Malongo will probably get modkilled, right?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 16 2010 01:45 GMT
#874
On March 16 2010 10:34 Versatile wrote:
also BC. wth is this trash about, "oh i found a townie, but i'm not releasing their name"?

that's bullshit. guess what? the mafia already knows who is town and who is mafia. this is not new information to them, but it is to us, the town. if you are a DT, and you found a green person, let us know so we don't, among other things, LYNCH THEM BY ACCIDENT.

mafia's weakness: numbers.
our weakness: information. so keeping things a secret is not useful to the town.


-_-...I don't think BC would vote for someone he RC'd green. Do you? It'd be pretty obvious, and I can almost guarantee he would come to that persons defense. So let's not worry about him posting his RC, yet. I'd imagine the person he checked could step forth without BC anyway.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#966
On March 16 2010 22:34 flamewheel91 wrote:
Hey wait a minute... Incognito went from being a Hydra to being a Corsair :O


Shhhh Drones aren't allowed to talk unless threats of lightning are involved.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 16 2010 19:17 GMT
#974
Although Incog did have a point when Versatile agreed to BC's plan, then decided he should release the names...

It could just be the want for information, but you did say they shouldn't be released earlier.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 17 2010 06:24 GMT
#1168
I am for switching from BM to Xelin....

If Bill stops spamming? He did say he would lynch Malongo Btw.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 19 2010 01:07 GMT
#1323
I know Fishball usually doesn't post anything of substance, and this is my first actual game without clues...But seriously I'm more suspicious of him then most others, because he hopped on this BM bandwagon. I disagree with this severely. First off, our "leaders" told us to begin with BM was mafia, then Incog explained his doubts and changed his vote. Even L expressed some doubt. If you have better lynch candidates, we seriously should have changed a long time ago. Personally I'm about suspicious of everyone wanting to lynch BM. If he flips red, his desperation has seriously pulled the wool over me. One of the few that actually understood my problem I had earlier in the game.

I'm not going to vote for BM, and you all expressed suspicion of BM. You claim his lynch will provide more information then Xelin. Well, I'm questionable about BM's lynch, and I understand verifying roles, but shouldn't we of hunted a red already?



Point in this, I don't know who's claimed what, I've told you all I'm green. No sense claiming that private.

,
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 19 2010 01:11 GMT
#1324
Wow...Bad timing. Damn Eric and Nicole for distracting me. Ty Bill...Like I said, appreciate ya for the kindness earlier man.

=(
Sucks to see you go out like that. And I refused to help lynch you.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 19 2010 01:12 GMT
#1326
Oh, and I believe we should be expecting a post from L soon, right?

What's the plan, oh great lyncher of Bill Murray.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 19 2010 01:27 GMT
#1333
Bill makes me laugh. I know he spams a lot, but when it comes being a cool dude, he gets it. And he's often more funny, just he actually was interested in trying to help.

Sorry Fishball, But I'm in it to win, not hold a grudge because I don't like someone. Hell L isn't exactly the best at sharing information, even when he's mafia with you. That two mafia game. Dunno what to expect, but Fishball, not even you can lie. I do end up either arguing, or talking with you every game. Seriously, we have atleast one pm between each other each game. And you usually come in with some suspicions, but you haven't done that once this game. Incognito saying it's your style, no. You post rarely, and often they aren't important, but you've always posted a list of suspects. You have yet to do that this game. So sense you haven't played as protown as in previous games (oh I watch you, I watch you good. You've done pointed out on several occasions how good you are at picking mafia out) I highly suspect you to be Mafioso.

That is all.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
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