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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 22:41:55
August 22 2013 22:38 GMT
#3521
No out of game communication means NO out of game communication.
PMs would basically have the same effect as what you did, and the game did not allow pms either.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2013 22:41 GMT
#3522
On August 16 2013 07:35 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Because he makes it look like is very experienced and after playing one game this seems odd to me. I would like to know if he is just a show off or actually not really a newbie because it might influence my read on him later on.

I've played on another site. I'll make multiple references to how weird TL mafia is because the setups are usually pretty different on my site.

On August 17 2013 01:08 iVLosK! wrote:
Slam, I know that you and Coag go way back. Would I be safe in assuming that the 4 newbie games you have on this site (and the couple I've seen on OMGUS) are not your only games?

On August 17 2013 10:44 iVLosK! wrote:
I'm in a good move and I'm from OMGUS. OT is my middle name.

Yeah, no way one of those stupid newbies would figure out which site you are from.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
August 22 2013 22:46 GMT
#3523
JAT is the other aching butt of the game, unfortunately. Read the post game.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 22 2013 22:55 GMT
#3524
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#3525
On August 23 2013 07:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
No out of game communication means NO out of game communication.
PMs would basically have the same effect as what you did, and the game did not allow pms either.

Frankly this is why I edited some posts I made with the rule that says such.

I think my coming actions after my current obligations here will surprise some.

However, I told my buddy [redacted] about the game, and he was planning on trying it, and one of the first things I showed him was that looking over shoulders, etc, not allowed. So...

I guess lucky for all concerned I rolled scum and didnt even notice the claim.

... In fact, either I didn't get it or haven't seen it yet

I admit trolling is fun though and I was willing to participate.

So on it goes.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18152 Posts
August 23 2013 02:03 GMT
#3526
If we're going to ban people for the odd private message to dead people or other observers, then I think TL Mafia will die a quick death: no games to sit out, because everybody will be sitting them out!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 23 2013 02:14 GMT
#3527
I'll clean out this mess tomorrow, cDgCorazon please post all 5 actions you want, I noticed you have them split accross several posts and I missed one when I approved, so I need to rethink some stuff, but it would be easiest for me if I had it all surmised in one post when going over it.
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iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
August 23 2013 03:40 GMT
#3528
Might point out that I don't even use the same username on either site. So it's not like some random would see it and know "That'a iVlosK! claiming VT!"
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
August 23 2013 04:07 GMT
#3529
On August 23 2013 11:14 GMarshal wrote:
I'll clean out this mess tomorrow, cDgCorazon please post all 5 actions you want, I noticed you have them split accross several posts and I missed one when I approved, so I need to rethink some stuff, but it would be easiest for me if I had it all surmised in one post when going over it.


1. 1-game ban to reps)squishy for both not voting/editing a post.
2. 1-game ban to iVLosK! for out-of-thread communication (revealing his role to Alakaslam on another site, it's basically the same thing as pming).
3. Warning to Squibbles for not voting (had rl issues and he couldn't tell me in time).
4. Warning to Xzavier for not posting/voting (admitted his mistake).
5. Warning to Malongo for posting in the thread when he was not a player and it was not :pop: at the end of a cycle (quoted in my original post).
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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 04:28 GMT
#3530
I just caught up with the ban thread and this situation. Cora's requests all seem justified considering the circumstances. Out of game communication about ongoing games on a public forum is simply unacceptable.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 23 2013 05:14 GMT
#3531
On August 23 2013 13:07 cDgCorazon wrote:
2. 1-game ban to iVLosK! for out-of-thread communication (revealing his role to Alakaslam on another site, it's basically the same thing as pming).


Wasn't the guy dead? if so and if it was basically like a pm then it is not ban worthy. People reveal their roles to people who have flipped all the time. On irc and via PM. not bannable.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
August 23 2013 05:30 GMT
#3532
there is absolutely no rule anywhere that says that a player in a game is not allowed to discuss the game with someone who has died. I dont know how many times I have been killed in a NON PM GAME and after flipping engaged in POST GAME discussion with players still alive in the game VIA PM or IRC. Its a non issue and has absolutely no impact on the game at all. EVERYONE DOES IT CONSTANTLY. your like literally either not understanding the rules or just trying to get people banned for whatever you can think of.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 06:56:17
August 23 2013 06:54 GMT
#3533
No im pretty sure discussing the game while dead with alive players is pretty against the rules. If it is not explicitly stated, im sure any intelligent person can see that it could potentially be exploited to have a negative impact on the game. In fact it could very well fall under the "No PM" rule of the game you yourself used as an example, as you are discussing the game in a private manner with another person in the game.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 07:05:07
August 23 2013 07:04 GMT
#3534
There is a difference between discussing the game and telling someone your alignment. Telling a dead guy that you are town or scum does not affect the game and happens all the time. and THAT is what we are talking about here.

Some guy told another guy who was dead that he was town. If that is the extent of it, it is not a bannable offense.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 07:08:43
August 23 2013 07:07 GMT
#3535
Yeah I dunno why ivlosk is getting a ban for that reason. I've heard others mentioned he trolled etc, if that's the reason then fine, but don't say "it's because he claimed vt on a public forum somewhere, and it had zero impact on the game" then I don't really see why it's not just a warning. No malicious intent, no actual impact on the game.

On August 23 2013 14:30 Coagulation wrote:
there is absolutely no rule anywhere that says that a player in a game is not allowed to discuss the game with someone who has died. I dont know how many times I have been killed in a NON PM GAME and after flipping engaged in POST GAME discussion with players still alive in the game VIA PM or IRC. Its a non issue and has absolutely no impact on the game at all. EVERYONE DOES IT CONSTANTLY. your like literally either not understanding the rules or just trying to get people banned for whatever you can think of.


I guess this really depends what you talk about. If you start sharing your reads with someone who just claimed town to you, while you're dead and he's alive, then I would consider that cheating. It's basically like you're hydraing, gives the alive person a big advantage. If you just ask the person what his alignment is when you're dead and say "ah damn what did I do wrong?" then that's fine. Big difference though.

Like, I've had someone on skype who doesn't play mafia and ask them "does this sentence look natural to you?", so maybe that's a bit hypocritical of me (although I do it less to gain a new perspective and more to involve people in stuff I'm doing when I'm on skype with them), but there's a difference if someone who just died can just explain all the thoughts that were running through their head while they were alive AND all the thoughts they have now that they're dead.

There is a reason that once you die in mafia you can't just say "I think X, Y and Z are mafia, gl town!"
On August 23 2013 16:04 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a difference between discussing the game and telling someone your alignment. Telling a dead guy that you are town or scum does not affect the game and happens all the time. and THAT is what we are talking about here.

Some guy told another guy who was dead that he was town. If that is the extent of it, it is not a bannable offense.


Yeah... this. Why can't I use less words to say the same like this guy.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 07:08:24
August 23 2013 07:07 GMT
#3536
double post sry
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 23 2013 08:23 GMT
#3537
way too many silly ban requests lately
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#3538
It's not like a pm. Everyone could have read it.
I found the site during the game and I knew who iVLosk was really quickly because of his last TL game where people called him differently.
I will admit that I did not catch the claim because he didn't do it yet when I was there and I didn't feel the need to return to the site but everyone could have seen it.
Also, there was a thread (which is now removed from the public section I think) in which he stated he only inned the game so Cora would kick him out. It shows how he didn't care at all and he played like that.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
August 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#3539
On August 23 2013 16:04 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a difference between discussing the game and telling someone your alignment. Telling a dead guy that you are town or scum does not affect the game and happens all the time. and THAT is what we are talking about here.

Some guy told another guy who was dead that he was town. If that is the extent of it, it is not a bannable offense.

This. The thread was: *screenshots of Holy losing his absolute mind and calling me scum and telling me to "shut the fuck up!", and I said "Imagine the rage when I flip VT." Holy was acting so obtusely that other players had to tell him to calm down.

/Out of game communication.

The kicker is that the host who is requesting my ban hasn't even seen the communication, it had zero impact on the game, etc etc. the thread has been moved to the admin only section of OMGUS, like I said it would be. But if anyone wants screen grabs of what exactly I said, I'd be glad to provide them.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
August 23 2013 11:53 GMT
#3540
On August 23 2013 20:48 justanothertownie wrote:
It's not like a pm. Everyone could have read it.
I found the site during the game and I knew who iVLosk was really quickly because of his last TL game where people called him differently.
I will admit that I did not catch the claim because he didn't do it yet when I was there and I didn't feel the need to return to the site but everyone could have seen it.
Also, there was a thread (which is now removed from the public section I think) in which he stated he only inned the game so Cora would kick him out. It shows how he didn't care at all and he played like that.

Try harder. What I said was I only /in'd because I didn't think Cora would let me join. And I can get a screen grab of that too.
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