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On February 15 2010 12:48 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +By saying that Ace is red if BM is red, when BM is obviously green, Redtooth is creating an arbitrary defence for Ace, as well as wasting a lynch on killing a townie that will not give us any useful information - i agree with using a fact and lying to make the lie more believable, but how did you come to the conclusion that i was green? - why? he is behaving completely differently this game compared with the last game... he is scheming and lurking in the shadows.
your posts were just incriminating/dumb for a little bit, but your actions after that I think make it pretty obvious that your green.
I was considering citizen for the first few hours because of his play the previous game, but last game isn't this game and it doesn't seem like citizen has contributed as much.
On February 15 2010 12:42 Ace wrote: oh dear
/facepalm
That's all?
On February 15 2010 12:48 redtooth wrote:![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) . laaan i was even looking forward to your post. how does everybody see that ace and i can't both be mafia?
again, that's all?
On February 15 2010 12:47 meeple wrote: I enjoy that you revisited this, and please correct me but what is new about this argument for Ace? We've already discussed that: 1) Clues may point to him 2) He had a vigorous defense that may be suspicious to some
Granted alot of the arguments are repeated, I think the main things I had to add are how I think the the town should play to win, and why Ace is a better person to have lynched then anyone else. I also think that I added some things connecting Redtooth and Ace; it seemed like most people hadn't considered Redtooths candidacy post.
And i haven't seen Ace address most of the arguments against him still.
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I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
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On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote: I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
On the contrary, people with massive egos have higher opinions of themselves and are more likely to be driven to WIN out of said egos.
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I don't think any one is taking this personal. This game has been extremely normal.
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On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote: I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
I totally suck at this game... Everyone is so much better than me... I had a plan and it was total fail... I'm a noob... I have fresh blood... I'm annoying... I can't get people to vote for me.. not even a pity vote... tip 5 is my weakness...
+ Show Spoiler +Vote for me! because I don't have a massive ego! Or do it?
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On February 15 2010 12:29 Ace wrote: ok cool, no problem. Just make sure that in the event of my death you offer yourself up for lynching when I flip green ok?
People need to get one idea into their heads: this is not like any of the other mafia games. When someone is lynched, its going to be alot harder to analyze the voters, and the people who pushed for their death. If a player flips red, that could mean that the voters are: a) town, and their suspicions were right or b) mafia trying to kill off the other family
if the player flips green or blue, in all the other games, we could assume that there are pretty good chances that the players who voted to lynch them were mafia. HOWEVER in this game, the mafia don't all know each other, coupled with the fact the mafia are trying to hit red just as hard as the town, I think this would make the accusers have equal chance of being red or green.
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Ace at first seemed to be acting like he did in a game I read before I played my first mafia game... a game where Chezinu was detective. I've looked for the game, but I can't seem to find the correct one. Chezinu basically comes out and yells "WHOO IM THE BEST DIE MAFIA" and ace facepalms just like this (not literally). But, still, I would really like to find that game. It might just be how he acts, though, which is the reason i'm not certain that DoctorH is red just yet, and don't push for his lynching even regarding past discrepancies (flaming him in pms/my stupid comment that forced edit in the previous game that ruined the game[thanks for the second chance, btw.]/the fact that we aren't really on friendly terms because of my meanness.), but with 39.7777%(rofl my math rulez)of the game mafia, how can u really be sure?
Ace, would you agree to dying if DoctorH flips green?
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On February 15 2010 13:05 Ace wrote: I don't think any one is taking this personal. This game has been extremely normal. Father, it has not been normal... I've been without you this whole game...
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Also I just ignore most of your "arguments" because honestly, they are pretty bad. In past games when I posted long defenses of myself and wound up being innocent people felt like morons for not reading it.
So in past games I've just begun to blatantly ignore it, hoping that others just read your post and see it for themselves. The fact that me "vigorously" defending myself must mean I'm mafia is so beyond stupid I'm hoping we've got enough sensible people working in the backgrounds on all of this.
Either way, it just makes me feel more important and makes my ego bigger. I love the fact that even when I'm just sitting back relaxing the "Ace must be Mafia!" plays start coming. Just goes to show you how great a player I am that people go out of there way to make themselves fail.
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On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote: I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
He doesn't even WANT to be mayor. I nominate tree.hugger for mayor, because the best person with the power is someone who doesn't want to use it.
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On February 15 2010 13:07 Fulgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 12:29 Ace wrote: ok cool, no problem. Just make sure that in the event of my death you offer yourself up for lynching when I flip green ok? People need to get one idea into their heads: this is not like any of the other mafia games. When someone is lynched, its going to be alot harder to analyze the voters, and the people who pushed for their death. If a player flips red, that could mean that the voters are: a) town, and their suspicions were right or b) mafia trying to kill off the other family if the player flips green or blue, in all the other games, we could assume that there are pretty good chances that the players who voted to lynch them were mafia. HOWEVER in this game, the mafia don't all know each other, coupled with the fact the mafia are trying to hit red just as hard as the town, I think this would make the accusers have equal chance of being red or green.
Actually thats a great point... the mafia are going to try and manipulate our lynch vote so that it effectively increases their KP
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I fail to see how DoctorH being green makes Ace red. Or why DoctorH is a good person to lynch.
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On February 15 2010 13:09 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote: I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
He doesn't even WANT to be mayor. I nominate tree.hugger for mayor, because the best person with the power is someone who doesn't want to use it.
no
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On February 15 2010 13:07 Bill Murray wrote: Ace at first seemed to be acting like he did in a game I read before I played my first mafia game... a game where Chezinu was detective. I've looked for the game, but I can't seem to find the correct one. Chezinu basically comes out and yells "WHOO IM THE BEST DIE MAFIA" and ace facepalms just like this (not literally). But, still, I would really like to find that game. It might just be how he acts, though, which is the reason i'm not certain that DoctorH is red just yet, and don't push for his lynching even regarding past discrepancies (flaming him in pms/my stupid comment that forced edit in the previous game that ruined the game[thanks for the second chance, btw.]/the fact that we aren't really on friendly terms because of my meanness.), but with 39.7777%(rofl my math rulez)of the game mafia, how can u really be sure?
Ace, would you agree to dying if DoctorH flips green?
Sure. Why not? Also I act like I'm above the law and don't really care in most Mafia games. In the past ~4 games I've tried to just chill, sit back and let others do the work but then people become sheepish so I have to step in. This game I was called out before I even posted and I'm accused of being Mafia because I'm defending myself. Seriously this is getting pretty sad.
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i was just wondering why he's sticking his neck out there for doctorh, not saying that it was logical
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On February 15 2010 13:11 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:07 Bill Murray wrote: Ace at first seemed to be acting like he did in a game I read before I played my first mafia game... a game where Chezinu was detective. I've looked for the game, but I can't seem to find the correct one. Chezinu basically comes out and yells "WHOO IM THE BEST DIE MAFIA" and ace facepalms just like this (not literally). But, still, I would really like to find that game. It might just be how he acts, though, which is the reason i'm not certain that DoctorH is red just yet, and don't push for his lynching even regarding past discrepancies (flaming him in pms/my stupid comment that forced edit in the previous game that ruined the game[thanks for the second chance, btw.]/the fact that we aren't really on friendly terms because of my meanness.), but with 39.7777%(rofl my math rulez)of the game mafia, how can u really be sure?
Ace, would you agree to dying if DoctorH flips green? Sure. Why not? Also I act like I'm above the law and don't really care in most Mafia games. In the past ~4 games I've tried to just chill, sit back and let others do the work but then people become sheepish so I have to step in. This game I was called out before I even posted and I'm accused of being Mafia because I'm defending myself. Seriously this is getting pretty sad. Incog started it!!! I sent you a pm about how I read your profile before the game started... I couldn't not think about it... Maybe I should have pmed you first...
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On February 15 2010 13:07 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote: I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
I totally suck at this game... Everyone is so much better than me... I had a plan and it was total fail... I'm a noob... I have fresh blood... I'm annoying... I can't get people to vote for me.. not even a pity vote... tip 5 is my weakness... + Show Spoiler +Vote for me! because I don't have a massive ego! Or do it?
chezinu is back! i personally think chez was hired by one of the mafia teams to create distraction/confusion/disorder lol. also as i said previously, when i referred to u as 'fresh,' i only meant in the sense that u havent been mayor before! not in the sense that u r noob, because i think u have a hidden agenda and tricks up your sleeve, all under the guise of cluelessness and pointless spam. geez -_-;; what do u have to say to that!
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@ Ace Your not being accused of Mafia because your defending yourself. Your hardly defending yourself at all, just saying that other people are dumb. I had not heard of you before this game; I'm new to mafia and TL/starcraft, I'm not accusing you because of your reputation, but because out of everyone you are most likely to be mafia.
People have read the what has been said, I'm sure they can decide if they think Ace should be lynched or not (and thus vote for someone who pledges to lynch him).
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On February 15 2010 13:15 madnessman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:07 Chezinu wrote:On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote: I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
I totally suck at this game... Everyone is so much better than me... I had a plan and it was total fail... I'm a noob... I have fresh blood... I'm annoying... I can't get people to vote for me.. not even a pity vote... tip 5 is my weakness... + Show Spoiler +Vote for me! because I don't have a massive ego! Or do it? chezinu is back! i personally think chez was hired by one of the mafia teams to create distraction/confusion/disorder lol. also as i said previously, when i referred to u as 'fresh,' i only meant in the sense that u havent been mayor before! not in the sense that u r noob, because i think u have a hidden agenda and tricks up your sleeve, all under the guise of cluelessness and pointless spam. geez -_-;; what do u have to say to that! orly? read my sig! You remind me of redtooth <3
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