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On February 23 2010 12:20 QuickStriker wrote:
Hi everyone! It seems like this game is progressing pretty fast and I just haven't been able to keep up with the pace. However, it seems that I come at the wrong moment which is where I am about to be killed off again... T_T
I just don't get how I'm always the target... Unfortunately I'm still busy with my academics where my aim is for 4.0 this semester (pretty darn good stage atm too), trying to set up my radio show up and running (see my blogs) and also getting other phases open in my life. As thus, I've asked the admin to replace me but it seems it's too late for that as well... =/
Well, you guys may think I am mafia or something and it seems whatever I say, you guys will deny, refuse to believe and still vote for me. I haven't contribute much to the game and I do apologize for that and also apologize my lack of appearances for like I stated the reasons above. Since I'm going to die anyway despite my denial of being mafia and possibly be miller for all I see upon myself is an innocent townie, I will make my final statement on my following post which is utterly pointless except just stating a few remarks about why I could not be mafia though that probably won't matter and who I think is mafia in my opinion. So please wait another 10 minutes after this post since I'll just type up something quick.
You were DT checked, jack.
Nothing you can do about that...other than claim miller...But if we don't lynch you the Sumi's will kill the Gambino's. We lose if the Sumi's kill Gambino's so you gotta go....Sorry brother.
P.S.
Also, will vote for double lynch. Way too many suspects to not...Plus we gotta kill L. He just lynched our mayor, A MEDIC. Everyone he's pushed hard for has been innocent.
So is L sumi or gambino?
I got court tomorrow too
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Idea: Stack medics on JohnnySpazz, if we have anymore. In order for us to win he must be kept alive, and his team has gotta hit two mafia tonight, like he said. If we can lynch two sumi's tomorrow, and they hit two sumi's tonight, all we gotta do is lynch johnny.
GG. GOGOGO Gambino Kill Sumi's!!...cuz they'll be able to out vote us at the rate this is going -_-
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On February 28 2010 23:24 Scamp wrote:
OpZ: Don't discount the possibility that JSpazz is actually Sumiyoshi.
Yea
L coulda just told us...Where did he list JohnnySpazz what team?
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I think it's safe to just assume Johnny is Gambino...If he isn't we are fucked anyway, and we don't even know if their are any meds. L listed him as Gambino, and he came out telling Caller he was a liar the whole time too.
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On March 01 2010 10:40 Versatile wrote:
ps: right now it's looking like i'm going to be voting for abenson and ~opz~.
i'll wait for more info/ town consensus before voting though.
ohN makes more sense than voting me...
FYI
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We also got one more double lynch to vote for.
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On March 01 2010 14:47 Foolishness wrote:Since hardly anyone is posting their thoughts (yes Chez, that includes you), I have taken the time to do some analysis. At this point I would like to call out ~Opz~ as mafia. Yes, ~Opz~ is mafia.Let's begin the analysis, starting here: Show nested quote +On February 16 2010 05:10 Caller wrote:
People with wise things to say
Zato-1, Redtooth (just a lil') Foolishness (especially the part about people spamming shit),~Opz~ I think ~Opz~ always has valid points. I remember when I was running Red Army Mafia that he nailed a lot of people on clues, even if nobody listened to anything he had to say.
everyone else seems to be talking random shit if you ask me ~~~ Here, Caller (let's not forget he is sumiyoshi) calls out ~Opz~ as someone who we should pay attention to because he always has valid points. He also goes on to say that ~Opz~ has good clue analysis. I will pick out a few of ~Opz~ posts from BEFORE Caller made this post: Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 00:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:On February 14 2010 13:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Ver has been the most sensible so far imo
His accusation of bloodycobbler is based on a change in bc's posting strategy and not the loose and broad clues from Day 1. He's advocating keeping the clues in mind until they become effective later in the game: a reasonable assertion.
I also think we should be using these clues to profile the mafia, rather than starting analytical arguments/trying to accuse anyone already. It seems a bit suspicious that L is already trying to paint Ace red based on the clues when all of the experienced players are saying that using day 1 clues to lynch/accuse is just stupid. Well, L did have a point On February 14 2010 13:46 L wrote:
Which brings me to another point; With 20 mafia, how often do you think we'll be revisiting the same characters? Incog can't exactly include every mafia member in each day post if it's three spread to each family, then it would take 4 day posts just to show each member with 1 kill...
Ace's posting style is a bit arrogant and aggressive for my tastes and I disagree that clues are essentially useless, but his point is fair. Clues, if anything, should be a helping point for our DT's and something used in the late-game
The Red army game I voted like every lynch I could to lynch Ace....Then when I got tired and blew myself up. Ace just has a very abrasive posting style... In that earlier L vs Ace argument, it's easy to put both their sides in perspective. L supports clue analysis, Ace supports behavioral analysis. Goes very good with his piss-you-off personality. Personally, I feel it may be weak to lynch Ace off the bat. Dr. H is who I'm looking at...Him and Chezinu flooding the thread. Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 11:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
L and Ace do this every game, it's best just to ignore them both until L starts clue analysis. That's when you pay attention to L. We all just bandwagon with Ace. They are only good when they agree. L just doesn't have the same support as Ace for some reason... In both examples, we do not see any of the illustrious clue analysis ~Opz~ is apparently praised for. All he does is talk about the arguments between Ace and L. In fact, he hasn't made a single useful post at this point contradictory to what caller said. ~Opz~ next appears on Ver's inactive list. After that, we get some of ~Opz~ clue analysis: Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 03:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I give you Xelin
vs.
Abomination
Seem pretty similar in my opinion. Xelin's big green guy seems like he could do some damage, like cause big holes, or, (same clue set) jump off roofs, and rip people's heads off....
Not to mention Xelin hasn't said much, not that I have either, but I been a little busy, plus I wanted to wait til day 2... Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:On February 18 2010 04:22 SugiuraMidori wrote:
It is quite apparent, at least to me, that those few on the bottom with little posts, coincide a bunch with many of the people that the town has called out on.
Shikyo... Phrujbaz..
I am suspicious a bit of foolish, but then.. I always am, I'm just not as open about it like L and Ace are with each other.
We also observe there is an obvious gap from L to meeple. So either the top four are trying to stand out enough to not get suspected of the usual mafia inactivity, or are generally concerned townies that want to help more than anyone else in town? That in itself seems suspicious to me.
Also, how many people have been suspected from scamp down, the other slight break in post counts?
Scamp, Vivi57, Abenson, etc.
P.S. You're welcome, Lucas. Well, Shikyo's obsession with metal + the inscription on the handle of the pike? I mean, maybe that just arises from my ignorant view of most metal... And thus we have the clue analysis which doesn't mean anything (unless you think Xelin might be mafia, which is a possiblity). ~Opz~ had yet to made a contribution to the game, and then when he was called out by Ver and his mafia buddy Caller, proceeded to do some half ass analysis to float under the radar. Finally, he actually gives the town some somewhat useful analysis: Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 01:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:The rain poured down steadily as darkness fell over the town. Inside an old shack in a deserted part of the town, 789 was content relaxing in the quiet of his bedroom. He could hear the light rain on the top of the roof, but was jolted out of his trance when he heard some panting, a few grunts, and then a loud crash upstairs. 789’s mind raced for a moment, but he was interrupted as the whole second floor of the shack came crashing down from the weight of the water and sewage above, ending his life.
Change of rain? Old shack, but it's two story and the whole floor comes down? Panting, grunting, loud crash. This part made me think of Xelin, but not the rest. Mafia can bring down a whole floor using water and sewage? It happens rather quickly. For obvious Drainage and Sewage. Given how obvious clues have seemed. The cat obviously knocked over something. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Scamp
SugiuraMidori smiled, thinking about the murders that would happen tonight. But it was cold tonight, and she decided to watch the murders from her apartment instead of watching from the tower in the middle of the town. As she turned around, she noticed the light in the background floating slowly to her location. At first she thought the light to be an omen of success, but she was suddenly shocked as the charming light sped up and pierced her skin. She felt a burning sensation, followed by more attacks from the light. A few moments later, SugiuraMidori died as her heart was overloaded from shock.
It was raining earlier... Background light coming at her. Slowly. Floating, Radiant. The light was percieved as an Omen. It was charming. Also able to pierce skin. Laser? Fine pointed. Burned. The light is powerful. Given the rest of the blatanly obvious clues...Hi Shockey? (I keep championing his death, but I'd be wary of this.)
nemY was sitting on his second story balcony, when he saw a dark shape flying in his direction. At first, he thought it was probably a hawk hunting at night, but as the figure converged on his location, nemY noticed that the creature was much larger than he had anticipated. Panicked, he ran inside his house and closed his eyes. But nemY was not safe, and a large boulder crashed through the roof and landed a few feet away from him. He saw the figure screech as it flew overhead, blocking out the moonlight from entering the large hole now in nemY's roof. nemY breathed a sigh of relief, yet was shocked at the damage done to his house. He frantically tried to clean up the mess, fearful that the rest of the roof would cave in. But the attacker returned, dropping another rock through the roof. nemY’s life ended as he flew like a rag doll from the impact of the boulder into the splintered end of a roof beam on the other side of his house.
The hawklike creature was large, dark, and scary. Nemy closed his eyes. Mafia can drop boulders. Screeches. Nemy thought he was safe, this probably isn't important, I just like the false sense of security. =P Flew accross the house with the impact, so it was very hard. I mean, I don't think a boulder would make you bounce, but he hit the roof beam. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ohNFor his quote. Mentions the sky, hiding, dropping.
At a fork in the road, one of the men took a left turn which meandered down near the river. The old shack at the end of the road looked deserted, but the man was not disturbed. He snuck closely through the shadows, making sure to blend in with the dark river behind him. The shack seemed abandoned, but the man heard some quiet singing emanating from the shack. As he approached the shack, he noticed an emaciated and pale man inside. The Mafioso didn’t feel especially playful tonight, and decided to simply get the job done. He ripped down the thin wall of the shack closest to the river, and lunged at his victim. Shikyo did not move a muscle as a dull fork flew toward his face and plunged into his left temple. However, the killer was shocked to see two bombs explode in the field nearby, and warily began to sneak away from the crime scene as the debris crunched below his feet. When he was but fifty yards away, he heard a large tree fall overhead, smashing the Shikyo’s shack to pieces and turning Shikyo to pulp.
Leisurely. Comfortable. Sneaky, Hides to blend in with the river. He heard singing? (maybe this one is oHn? Who's the pic in Redtooth's profile? Madnessmen to.) ohn's music is trance. Pale man. Too the point. Wtf, ripping walls open again? Near the river side. Where'd the fork come from? Fork, It's dull? He's heavy. Crunching debris. How'd the tree fall? Was it planned? I dunno....Gotta be at work in 18 minutes. I'll come back to do the rest later. I get off in 8 hours though, 12 - 8. Typical mafia plan. Come in when people are talking about you, make a few posts, disappear again (let's also note that he was already saying things previously mentioned, he didn't bring up any new points). It's also worth to note that this post came after he makes his analysis: Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 03:20 Caller wrote:
~Opz always has good clue analysis. This is something that people should really, really pay attention too -_- I find it interesting that Caller keeps saying ~Opz~ has good clue analysis, even BEFORE ~Opz~ has even done any the entire game. Knowing Caller and his fanatics he pulls during games, it seems reasonable to assume this is Caller backing up his mafia buddy. When Caller makes his list where he labels all the remaining people, ~Opz~ appears green. No surprise there. The next point, many many people have called out ~Opz~ as mafia, and these many many people are all dead innocents (this list includes Ver and iaaan and Fishball). Typical mafia plan is to kill people who are suspicious of you. This can be seen in the recent game hosted by Qatol and Ver. Pyrry was mafia, first day Caller and myself both called him out as mafia, and the two of us died first night. Outside of that ~Opz~ has flown under the radar. In fact, many people who make a list of every person and labels them has left ~Opz~ out (seemingly because they forgot he was in the game. By comparison, these lists usually do not include tredmasta as well). These lists are made from people such as L, Ver, Sugiura, Caller, etc. The last point, which is where the hard evidence stacks up, is that ~Opz~ has always voted for an innocent to by lynched, with the exception of QS. QS was getting bandwagoned so hard, it's very likely his entire team was voting for him, because nothing could save him since he got rolechecked. Since then, ~Opz~ has always voted for innocents up to and including: redtooth, nemY, iaaan, amber[light]. To summarize, ~Opz~ has had inconsistent posts in the thread. Nearly all his posts have been useless; he has never contributed to the town's effort. He has suspiciously had the support of Caller all game long (even before he was posting much). On top of that, he only comes in to post when called out, or to say a sentence or two then disappear. Lastly, he has been voting as if he were mafia. LYNCH ~OPZ~
That Bull shit...I posted some analysis before Caller said listen to me. I even posted afterward saying "Thanks for the sarcasm Caller" which you clearly ignored also. Want me to find those posts, since you conveniently left them out?
Caller's post was clearly taken out of context, due to SARCASM. He wanted my post to be ignored, so I clearly still believe Xelin to be mafia. He qualifies for EVERYTHING you've said of me, EXCEPT he has yet to make any clue analysis to help further the us.
I haven't even came in when people were talking about me. I work on weekends, almost all of my posts have EXCLUSIVELY been on week days and Sunday. I didn't state this, but it seems more scummy. Dr. H was clearly mafia, reread his posts. They all seemed EXTRAORDINARILY suspicious. I didn't champion his death, but I certainly figured he was mafia from the beginning.
I don't think I've been connected to a single clue, and I challenge anyone to do that. Find a decent thematic clue that points to me. And I still argue right now, that Xelin is mafia, and he is Abomination.
Iaaan and the tuning fork, that was also my analysis, I just PM'd it to Spazz because I figured if Iaaan was on his team he wouldn't post it, and that would tell everyone. (Not to mention he would probably be dead anyway):
If Iaaan was mafia:
A) Iaaan was Gambino (Spazz not posting)
B) Iaaan was Sumi (spazz posting)
Apparently it was good enough to convince Johnny, Cynan, and the other Gambino to kill Iaaan last night. Sorry it was failure, but who else uses dull forks? L even believed Iaaan to possibly of been GF based on it, and the fact that nearly every blue has died this game.
I think Foolishness and Vivi are mafia now, trying to bus me. Don't fall for this fellow townies.
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On February 21 2010 03:20 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 01:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:The rain poured down steadily as darkness fell over the town. Inside an old shack in a deserted part of the town, 789 was content relaxing in the quiet of his bedroom. He could hear the light rain on the top of the roof, but was jolted out of his trance when he heard some panting, a few grunts, and then a loud crash upstairs. 789’s mind raced for a moment, but he was interrupted as the whole second floor of the shack came crashing down from the weight of the water and sewage above, ending his life.
Change of rain? Old shack, but it's two story and the whole floor comes down? Panting, grunting, loud crash. This part made me think of Xelin, but not the rest. Mafia can bring down a whole floor using water and sewage? It happens rather quickly. For obvious Drainage and Sewage. Given how obvious clues have seemed. The cat obviously knocked over something. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Scamp
SugiuraMidori smiled, thinking about the murders that would happen tonight. But it was cold tonight, and she decided to watch the murders from her apartment instead of watching from the tower in the middle of the town. As she turned around, she noticed the light in the background floating slowly to her location. At first she thought the light to be an omen of success, but she was suddenly shocked as the charming light sped up and pierced her skin. She felt a burning sensation, followed by more attacks from the light. A few moments later, SugiuraMidori died as her heart was overloaded from shock.
It was raining earlier... Background light coming at her. Slowly. Floating, Radiant. The light was percieved as an Omen. It was charming. Also able to pierce skin. Laser? Fine pointed. Burned. The light is powerful. Given the rest of the blatanly obvious clues...Hi Shockey? (I keep championing his death, but I'd be wary of this.)
nemY was sitting on his second story balcony, when he saw a dark shape flying in his direction. At first, he thought it was probably a hawk hunting at night, but as the figure converged on his location, nemY noticed that the creature was much larger than he had anticipated. Panicked, he ran inside his house and closed his eyes. But nemY was not safe, and a large boulder crashed through the roof and landed a few feet away from him. He saw the figure screech as it flew overhead, blocking out the moonlight from entering the large hole now in nemY's roof. nemY breathed a sigh of relief, yet was shocked at the damage done to his house. He frantically tried to clean up the mess, fearful that the rest of the roof would cave in. But the attacker returned, dropping another rock through the roof. nemY’s life ended as he flew like a rag doll from the impact of the boulder into the splintered end of a roof beam on the other side of his house.
The hawklike creature was large, dark, and scary. Nemy closed his eyes. Mafia can drop boulders. Screeches. Nemy thought he was safe, this probably isn't important, I just like the false sense of security. =P Flew accross the house with the impact, so it was very hard. I mean, I don't think a boulder would make you bounce, but he hit the roof beam. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ohNFor his quote. Mentions the sky, hiding, dropping.
At a fork in the road, one of the men took a left turn which meandered down near the river. The old shack at the end of the road looked deserted, but the man was not disturbed. He snuck closely through the shadows, making sure to blend in with the dark river behind him. The shack seemed abandoned, but the man heard some quiet singing emanating from the shack. As he approached the shack, he noticed an emaciated and pale man inside. The Mafioso didn’t feel especially playful tonight, and decided to simply get the job done. He ripped down the thin wall of the shack closest to the river, and lunged at his victim. Shikyo did not move a muscle as a dull fork flew toward his face and plunged into his left temple. However, the killer was shocked to see two bombs explode in the field nearby, and warily began to sneak away from the crime scene as the debris crunched below his feet. When he was but fifty yards away, he heard a large tree fall overhead, smashing the Shikyo’s shack to pieces and turning Shikyo to pulp.
Leisurely. Comfortable. Sneaky, Hides to blend in with the river. He heard singing? (maybe this one is oHn? Who's the pic in Redtooth's profile? Madnessmen to.) ohn's music is trance. Pale man. Too the point. Wtf, ripping walls open again? Near the river side. Where'd the fork come from? Fork, It's dull? He's heavy. Crunching debris. How'd the tree fall? Was it planned? I dunno....Gotta be at work in 18 minutes. I'll come back to do the rest later. I get off in 8 hours though, 12 - 8. ~Opz always has good clue analysis. This is something that people should really, really pay attention too -_-
Even your timing was wrong when you quoted me. Caller said I had good clue analysis sarcastically in the SAME POST HE QUOTED ME WHERE I DID CLUE ANALYSIS.
Logical consistency there. Amirite?
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Never noticed Caller said that...aww...I feel special.
Well I know think Xelin might be town -_-...
Go reread red army. I kill myself killing Plexa...Who wasn't mafia. So I have no idea wtf he was talking about. Maybe I should go reread that game myself so I can get some ego.
Second thought:
Had I even posted in the thread before Caller said that, other than some statement telling everyone to ignore L and Ace?
And I play pretty much every mafia game without saying much. I add my own analysis every now and then like I've been doing this game.
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On March 02 2010 11:52 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 10:38 Versatile wrote:
yes, let's lynch me and waste an actual sumi lynch, scamp. that's smart.
the very fact that i've had no support from any player in any way throughout this entire game should tell you something; i have no allies.
in the event that sumiyoshi win, they have very little to be proud of seeing as how there's been a ridiculous amount of idiocy on both town and gambino side. It seems to me very little of the players alive right now have had support throughout this game. Outside of the obvious Chez, Opz stands out as one of these players (had constant support from a sumiyoshi Caller), which I mentioned in my analysis.
What can I say, I have amazing clue analysis -_-
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L said this.
"Quite frankly, it has to do with this black liquid, and here’s where the analysis gets interesting; If Malongo is innocent, then Chez is guilty. If Chez is guilty than Malongo’s innocent. I’m not at all certain of this clue link, so I was forced to make an entirely seperate team profile."
I think he had a good point. Because if we prove Chez innocent, we have his circle...which I dunno how true that is, but what about Malongo then?
Think it still applies?
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On March 03 2010 05:20 XeliN wrote:
Expain why in your opinion johnny is a gambino.
I would ask you to explain why you suspect me as well but i think changing your mind on the matter is not a possibility, you are set in your belief I am mafia so I guess thats that. I would suggest you are mafia if it were not for the fact you also were adamant that I was mafia in the last game we played in and I in turn took that to mean you were mafia (as i knew i was not in that game) and it turned out you were townie as well so at least that is consistent.
L SAID JOHNNY WAS GAMBINO AND L WAS GAMBINO
how many times must this be said!?!?!
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We need three more votes for double lynch. If you don't for it, you are pretty much clearly mafia.
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Stop saying get the medic to claim to you. He can't do that and still have us win. Are you stupid. It's obvious Johnny told him who the mafia member is in a pm. He would only claim to johnny and would of told him who to protect. Unless of course a sumi messaged johnny claiming medic....
Now, if that happened, town's fucked. Did any of you sumi scum message johnny?
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On March 03 2010 12:52 Versatile wrote:
welp, our next lynch targets should be foolishness and madnessman, obviously. assuming gambino hits dozko.
Foolishness is mafia. Or Dozko I suppose....But at any rate, all that needs to die tonight is one sumi....
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Anyway, night actions/day post, gogogogo...Seriously, we gotta wait all 24 hours?
Sorry I was very lifted a minute ago...
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Guys...it doesn't matter...as long as dozko is mafia...and he kinda admitted it with the attempt at spaz and chez at the end...
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On March 04 2010 07:08 XeliN wrote:
Fair enough vivi, suprised you are continuing on in your belief that I am mafia, surely it's quite plain now?
The mafia gain nothing by still hiding, the remaining 2 mafia could post here right now stating they are sumiyoshi and it would not effect in the slightest the strategy of the game
Right now it is simply a rush to kill Dozko so we can win, can we do it!
Unless mafia stack kills on Scamp...
Lol...
Sorry, just figure it'd be funny to say it now...ty spazz...
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On March 04 2010 10:07 CynanMachae wrote:Well, OpZ was thinking about killing Amber and Iaaan while spaaz was more fro OhN and abenson. Decided to switch at the last minute tho, and it didnt end up well  Iaaan was a good gf suspect but I'm not sure about amber tho
L seemed certain about amber, and he had wanted to hit amber the night before -_-
And come on....Go reread Iaaan's stuff -_-
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On March 04 2010 10:04 madnessman wrote:
lol nice. gg all.
i have 2 remarks... chez how come u didnt tell gambinos that foolish was sumi? and also: wow, scamp was quite the awesome medic lol.
Foolish was GF of Sumi
He had no idea his ranks had a mafia in it...damn GF roles
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