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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
March 01 2010 00:56 GMT
#2621
Okay I guess it's officially Gambino + Town vs. Sumiyoshi at this point, which is probably a good thing for the town as it's also official that the Gambino suck at killing Sumiyoshi.

Laaan and Amber were both on L's Sumi circle, I think that's one of the reasons they were targeted. At this point, I really want to hear from Abenson and oHn and their reasons why we shouldn't kill them. I also want Abenson to answer what he did not last night and explain why I was most likely to be mafia yesterday.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
March 01 2010 00:59 GMT
#2622
Also: Chez who did you check last night, and what result did you get?
Cheese is good for you!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
March 01 2010 01:01 GMT
#2623
a bodyguard
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
March 01 2010 01:04 GMT
#2624
Who?
Cheese is good for you!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
March 01 2010 01:06 GMT
#2625
Malongo, L told me to check him before he died. Would have check abenson otherwise.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
March 01 2010 01:08 GMT
#2626
Malongo can you confirm that you are a bodyguard?
Cheese is good for you!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
March 01 2010 01:10 GMT
#2627
On March 01 2010 10:08 Scamp wrote:
Malongo can you confirm that you are a bodyguard?

Read ver's old post.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 01 2010 01:11 GMT
#2628
WHY IS THE GAMBINO TEAM SO LOUSY. GET SOME SUMIYOSHI BLOOD GOGO

I'm sorry to my fellow townies; I kind of lost interest after I wrote that massive post against L and nobody read it But in these dire times I will try to be more useful... After I finish my stupid 8 pg paper that is...

johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 01 2010 01:12 GMT
#2629
I DONT KNOW WHY WE SUCK SORRY
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
March 01 2010 01:15 GMT
#2630
On March 01 2010 10:10 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 10:08 Scamp wrote:
Malongo can you confirm that you are a bodyguard?

Read ver's old post.


Can you please tell me what page it's on?
Cheese is good for you!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
March 01 2010 01:18 GMT
#2631
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111913&currentpage=107#2121

Iaaan posted pm from Ver
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
March 01 2010 01:26 GMT
#2632
Gee, it would have been a good thing if you had posted that reminder during the night. Poor laaan.

Sort of re-confirms my position on Abenson and ohN. Will wait for them to post, though.
Cheese is good for you!
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 01 2010 01:28 GMT
#2633
ok, so right now we have:

5. johnnyspazz (gambino)
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
16. dozko
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu (dt)
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
45. Versatile
47. Malongo (bg)
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman

i'm 100% sure i'm missing some information here because I've been lazy about following the thread, but even with this, 6/10 unconfirmed people are sumiyoshi (or 5 + the gf). Johnnyspaz should post the name of the other gambino alive so we can medic prot both of them and eliminate even one more person from the list
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 01 2010 01:33 GMT
#2634
On February 25 2010 07:18 Caller wrote:
ohi guys im back

sc2's starting to bore me

anyways i hears people wanna kill me

have fun with that but lemme ask you this

suppose i am really sumiyoshi. Why didn't I die last night? If I was sumiyoshi and false claimed, the Gambinos can see that as an obvious hit.

The answer is, of course, the fact that my mafia is a bunch of lazy uncoordinated crackheads that are completely incapable of reading the thread, doing character analysis, or paying any attention at all.

In any case I happen to have a filtered list of roles (aka, people who aren't dead) that I accumulated from random people. Feel free to make of it what you will. obviously i hid the members of my mafia among both scum and town but let's see who the sumiyoshi hit tonight.

5. johnnyspazz green
8. Vivi57 green
11. XeliN mad hatter
12. Amber[Light] green
13. Fishball veteran
14. QuickStriker scum
16. dozko green
17. Nikon scum
18. tree.hugger medic
19. ShoCkeyy scum
22. meeple scum
23. Chezinu DT
24. Scamp green
26. L (Pardoner) green
28. Iaaan green
29. ~OpZ~ green
30. sidesprang scum
32. Caller scum
33. ohN green
34. Abenson veteran
38. CynanMachae scum
40. tredmasta green
44. [NyC]HoBbes green
45. Versatile green
47. Malongo DT
48. decafchicken veteran
50. Foolishness green
51. madnessman green

and now back to SC2, not going to really reply too much here, this game got boring since somebody hit Ace without me knowing -_-

posting that because we should really pay attention to this list.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 01 2010 01:36 GMT
#2635
On March 01 2010 10:28 Vivi57 wrote:
ok, so right now we have:

5. johnnyspazz (gambino)
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
16. dozko
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu (dt)
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
45. Versatile
47. Malongo (bg)
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman

i'm 100% sure i'm missing some information here because I've been lazy about following the thread, but even with this, 6/10 unconfirmed people are sumiyoshi (or 5 + the gf). Johnnyspaz should post the name of the other gambino alive so we can medic prot both of them and eliminate even one more person from the list



ermm, if it will help, i was outted as bg by iaan with ver's PM to him, like 50+ pages ago.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 01 2010 01:40 GMT
#2636
ps: right now it's looking like i'm going to be voting for abenson and ~opz~.

i'll wait for more info/ town consensus before voting though.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 01 2010 01:44 GMT
#2637
5. johnnyspazz green gambino
8. Vivi57 green
11. XeliN mad hatter likely sumiyoshi
12. Amber[Light] green
13. Fishball veteran miller
14. QuickStriker scum sumiyoshi
16. dozko green
17. Nikon scum
18. tree.hugger medic
19. ShoCkeyy scum
22. meeple scum medic
23. Chezinu DT dt
24. Scamp green
[red]26. L (Pardoner) green gambino
28. Iaaan green
29. ~OpZ~ green
30. sidesprang scum
[red]32. Caller scum sumiyoshi
33. ohN green
34. Abenson veteran likely sumiyoshi
38. CynanMachae scum gambino
40. tredmasta green gambino
44. [NyC]HoBbes green
45. Versatile green
47. Malongo DT bodyguard
48. decafchicken veteran
50. Foolishness green
51. madnessman green



The two blues randomly stuck in there really stick out to me. Hatter and vet. Roles specifically chosen to discourage gambino hitting them. If the clues line up, we should really lynch xelin and abenson.

ok, looking through the list again, he put a few random vets in there that turned out to be green, but xelin is someone we should definitely lynch.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 01 2010 01:47 GMT
#2638
5. johnnyspazz (gambino)
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
16. dozko
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu (dt)
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
45. Versatile
47. Malongo (bg)
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman


reading the rules right now to see if its possible malongo is the gf and made himself appear as a bg then subbed himself in place of a real bg
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 01 2010 02:10 GMT
#2639
On March 01 2010 10:47 Vivi57 wrote:
5. johnnyspazz (gambino)
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
16. dozko
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu (dt)
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
45. Versatile
47. Malongo (bg)
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman


reading the rules right now to see if its possible malongo is the gf and made himself appear as a bg then subbed himself in place of a real bg


That is a legit move. Sugiura did it remember? Versatile also claimed bodyguard (thought I'd mention it since some people seem to not know that)
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 01 2010 02:12 GMT
#2640
Why are we so sure that Chezinu is in fact a DT? Has there been indisputable evidence that he in fact is one (that I may have missed)? Can I know which (if any) mafia members he has caught during role-checks? Because his lynch votes surely don't reflect any sort of certainty.

Day 2
On February 17 2010 09:47 Chezinu wrote:
I vote for Ver

Day 3
On February 20 2010 13:05 Chezinu wrote:
I vote Scamp

On February 20 2010 22:02 Chezinu wrote:
I vote to lynch johnnyspazz.

die Gambino die!

On February 21 2010 16:14 Chezinu wrote:
I change my vote to Quickstriker (Sumiyoshi).

Please be mafia so that the detective will be real then I can make a deal with town and ask for a rolecheck and medic protection for another day. Your death is my only hope quickstriker!

Day 4
On February 23 2010 11:27 Chezinu wrote:
I vote L (Gambino)

town killer! Even if you are town, we need to know...

On February 23 2010 11:45 Chezinu wrote:
I change my vote to QuickStriker (Sumiyoshi).

I vote for Double Lynch.

May the Circle Prevail. Remember Quickerstriker was confirmed mafia. Or is he just a miller?

Day 5
On February 26 2010 12:50 Chezinu wrote:
I vote Amber[Light] and Scamp

On February 27 2010 04:49 Chezinu wrote:
I change my vote from amber to to L (Gambino)

I vote to save myself!

On February 27 2010 09:50 Chezinu wrote:
I change my vote from L (Gambino) to Amber[LighT]

On February 28 2010 03:20 Chezinu wrote:
I change my vote from Amber[light] to tree.hugger

On February 28 2010 07:02 Chezinu wrote:
I change my vote from Scamp to CynanMachae (Gambino)


As a DT, I would like to know why he voted to lynch townies several times, and why he never informed the rest of the town who he role-checked. If anything, as the DT, he should given us direction on who to vote and who he knows to be mafia. Sure, he has voted for a Sumiyoshi before (Quickstriker), but as part of the "Town Circle" with redtooth and other DT's, surely he knew that if he didn't vote for Quickstriker he would look extremely guilty. Furthermore, when he voted for Quickstriker, the end tally was 20 vs. 10 or something, and surely he knew that his vote wouldn't count.

I am very suspicious of Chezinu.. Let's say an anonymous person was a DT. I could understand that he would be wary to say "I am a DT, I role-checked person X and he is mafia, we must lynch him" due to safety reasons and not wanting to get hit. However, everyone thinks that Chezinu is already a DT. There is no point in secrecy and not telling us who he has role-checked, and who he knows is mafia and that we should lynch. He hasn't contributed anything as far as I can see, although I won't deny he might have contributed something but I didn't see it because he also posts quite a bit of spam.

Also, if he was suspicious of Amber[light] or tree.hugger (and he definitely must've been suspicious of them since he VOTED for them), why didn't he just role-check them instead?? Also, is it coincidence that people who were blue+role-claimed/were part of the special town circle ended up dead, SAVE FOR HIM?

Chezinu please provide a list of who you've role checked throughout the game. We also need someone who can verify your role checking, as it's easy in retrospect to go "oh i role checked masterdana and he turned out to be townie" or something like that.
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