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Incognito's TL Mafia XVI

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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 19 2010 20:47 GMT
#20
Can't wait for this to start, should be great
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 21 2010 00:10 GMT
#342
It has been said before but defenitely the elected role that the mafia will be aiming for is gonna be mayor, no role check and +2 vote can make quite a big difference while the sheriff has a subpar ability (but still no rolecheck is good).

I don't like either the idea of lynching the mayor right away, first of all, like most people said then no one would run, but most important, it removes the ability from the town to get additionnal information, which is pretty much the most important think to help us choose who to lynch each day. The voting power grows strong with late game, so early it shouldn't be a problem. By the case we lynch him in the middle of the game, if he hasn't proven by his actions that he is legit (or all bodyguards dead and he' still alive, or w/e reason we choose to lynch him), might be better just because of that mass of information you can get from it afterwards.

But really, mayor can pretty much be a double edged sword for each camp, wheter he's mafia or town, it all depend on how he's playing.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 21 2010 00:16 GMT
#343
On January 21 2010 09:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
As far as lynching the mayor or not, that's really going to scare anyone who is running. I also find it strange that you are proposing to immediately lynch the mayor when you are running for elected positions yourself.

Well I guess he's hoping to get sheriff or none of them, lol.

That makes me think, for anyone saying to lynch the mayor first day, why not sheriff then? He pretty much get only that rolecheck immunity since his incarceration ability isn't that great, and rolecheck immunity is something that benefit only the mafia.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 21 2010 04:39 GMT
#413
On January 21 2010 13:30 citi.zen wrote:
I think if t_co turns out red we have a great chance to end this very fast. If not, we still get a number of clues, a new list of suspects (I will gladly put myself at the top of that list), and a long-ish one with likely innocent people. That is a lot of info, well worth the risk in my view.

Lynching Hobbes on the other hand... not so useful, even if he is guilty/red. Same KP for the mob, no new info.

Why would we end it very fast if t_co is red? And by lynching Hobbes or t_co, if one of them flips reds its the same KP anyway...

Anyway, I'm still thinking Hobbes should be the mayor's lynch. Clues are much better than all this speculation right now
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 21 2010 04:52 GMT
#419
On January 21 2010 13:49 flamewheel91 wrote:
However, since Hobbes hasn't posted much, and the main reason we suspect him is because of clues, even if he DOES turn out red it will not let us uncover any new leads.

I think that if we lynch Hobbes and he turns out red we'll know that we are doing pretty well with the clue analysis and those first we got the clues on Hobbes are not mafia.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 21 2010 06:19 GMT
#468
Better warn us off, else we are going to suspect you of going inactive.

Anyway, gonna go sleep on this too.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 00:56 GMT
#634
I would still be with the idea of lynching Hobbes just because imo clues are a better basis for lynching right now that all this behavioral analysis that could pretty much mean anything depending on what you want it to say.

Also, I really think that double lynch should be reserved for later when we have many mafia suspects and need to lower their KP (i.e. toward the end of the game).
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:06 GMT
#642
Can I have a quick recap on Faronel's actions toward t_co? I like the idea behind but I don't really know what are the basis behind it.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:12 GMT
#647
Just scratched the names of those that aren't actually players
# of posts in this thread:
DoctorHelvetica : 129
meeple : 72
789 : 61
Bill Murray : 59
citi.zen : 55
t_co : 40
Jugan : 22
Zona : 21
[NyC]HoBbes : 18
flamewheel91 : 17
blue_arrow : 15
Nikoner : 12
dreamflower : 11
Incognito : 10
The_Master : 10
Ser Aspi : 10
Abenson : 9
Qatol : 9
Mystlord : 7
CynanMachae : 7
Ng5 : 6
Hyperbola : 4
QuickStriker : 4
Ace : 3
Jayme : 3
Phrujbaz : 3
tredmasta : 3
ghote : 3
Faronel : 3
keit : 2
dinmsab : 2
derfboy : 1
kane]deth[ : 1
StimiLant : 1
magicbullet : 1
Ver : 1
Jonoman92 : 1
skronch : 1
Fallen_arK : 1

Thanks for the list, though is there a quick way to get this or you really counted it? o.o

Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:25 GMT
#661
On January 22 2010 10:23 Nikoner wrote:
At first I hadn't realised that Bill Murray has been posting so much... and most, if not all, of his posts are like this:

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 08:24 Bill Murray wrote:
I vote for a double lynch on day 2


Which doesn't even make sense, since it will most likely lead to us lynching 2 townies, if anything...

Most of his posts has been triple-post confusing one liners yea, but that isn't much of an argument for lynching
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:31 GMT
#669
On January 22 2010 10:29 meeple wrote:
It's getting down to the wire guys... can everyone please put their choice and perhaps a short blurb describing why?

Day 1 lynching choices for the mayor?
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:38 GMT
#680
On January 22 2010 10:36 flamewheel91 wrote:
I still say we lynch t_co, then move onto Hobbes (by clues) since a disruptive player just adds senseless text to wade through. I'm keeping up with all this whenever I get back to my computer, so it makes it easier on the people like me. Furthermore, if we get the mafia day 1 or 2 it doesn't matter since they are able to have 3 killpower anyway since 7 and 6 are the same.


Well, you could say that if we get a mafia on day 1 AND day two their kp would be reduced. But anyway, chances are very low of that lol.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:42 GMT
#686
On January 22 2010 10:29 meeple wrote:
It's getting down to the wire guys... can everyone please put their choice and perhaps a short blurb describing why?

[NYC]Hobbes - Simply due to clue analysis (hobbes being a tiger -> barbaric noises, NYC -> Big apple). If he flips red, well that's good, and we have some confirmed non-mafias (those that got the clues out).

I don't really like lynching t_co for pretty much the same reason that has been said, he's been active, yes no making much sense, but all of this is all much more information that could be used at a later point. But yea, keeping him out of the mayor spot would be pretty important.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:45 GMT
#692
On January 22 2010 10:37 Nikoner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 10:25 CynanMachae wrote:
On January 22 2010 10:23 Nikoner wrote:
At first I hadn't realised that Bill Murray has been posting so much... and most, if not all, of his posts are like this:

On January 22 2010 08:24 Bill Murray wrote:
I vote for a double lynch on day 2


Which doesn't even make sense, since it will most likely lead to us lynching 2 townies, if anything...

Most of his posts has been triple-post confusing one liners yea, but that isn't much of an argument for lynching


I never said I wanted to lynch him. Methinks you doth protest too much.

Well if was only a step forward from you suspecting him, that he might be mafia .
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 01:51 GMT
#694
Oh ok yea, makes sense.

And the day is ending in like 10 minutes? (9 PM EST) I saw in the voting thread some people taking about 9 PST (12 EST) also so I'm not sure.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 02:04 GMT
#708
Well anyway, election is oever and discussing lynching choices wont affect anything right now.

Let's wait
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 02:05 GMT
#710
Oh, so we have two non posting players but they both voted.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 02:07 GMT
#716
Well, here we go, no mafia
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 22 2010 02:11 GMT
#728
I'm pretty sure we are, else it would have been mentionned on the first post I hope
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 25 2010 03:41 GMT
#1232
My vote went for kane because after catching up on the thread I felt that his case was the strongest one based on clues. I really felt it would have been a very good lead, but him popping green seems that we've just been badly wrong in oue clue analysis.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 27 2010 06:07 GMT
#1522
Just caught up with the last few pages.

I think we need to focus on how much information we get from each lynches. Seems right now the three prime suspects from the voting thread would be keit, Mystlord, and DrH.

If we lynch keit and he turns blue/green, could very well mean DrH is red. If he turns red, while DrH advokates that it means he couldn't be red, as it as been said before it could be a mafia sacrifice to save DrH. Also, we don't get others leads from a keit lynch, since it's mostly between him and DrH.

If we lynch Mystlord and he turns blue/green, I don't even see what info we get except that we failed again at clue analysis. If he does turn red tho, I gives us an important hint toward DrH.

Finally, if we lynch DoctorHelvetica and he turns blue/green, we have one certain mafia member as the "detective". We also have strong lead on those others people citi.zen mentionned that had been advocating a DrH lynch in PMs. It might also be a hint toward keit. If he instead flips red, Mystlord seems a very likely mafia, we have 200+ posts to analyze from a mafia's viewpoint, and a confirmed DT.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 27 2010 06:11 GMT
#1523
Gah, consider DoctorHelvetica also bolded in the 3rd paragraph >< The form of my post failed.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 28 2010 02:09 GMT
#1554
Omg wow, 2 mafias! Things are looking very good now.

And I thought that sheriff couldn't use his power if he was lynched? Seems he can ><
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 28 2010 07:45 GMT
#1599
Ahhh I knew it made more sense like this lol.

And while we're at it:
1 of 1 Sheriff remains

I think we are down to 0 :o
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 28 2010 21:08 GMT
#1640
Jugan, do you have better suspects than those citi.zen pointed? Maybe he hasn't said it the most correct way but it does seems to me that they are likely mafia.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 29 2010 02:08 GMT
#1654
Was fun, gl town
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 29 2010 05:31 GMT
#1678
Just posting to let the mods know that theres an error in the dead players list

"31. Jayme" in green is actually JohannesH
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
February 01 2010 04:07 GMT
#1757
Yea gg all, good to see the clues, phrujaz's were probably the hardest.

And I did use a clue check on Night 3, but since I died like 10 minutes after it doesnt matter much
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
February 01 2010 17:59 GMT
#1790
Yea I'm pretty sure that a mafia playing "without knowing his teamates" would be much more effective.

And yea, waiting before posting DrH's accusation in order to collect more clues and get reactions on differents suspects is what really helped to catch the last mafia members imo.
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
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