EPTIncognito's TL Mafia XVI - Page 62
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citi.zen
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Zona
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Town members, even those with blue powers, need to post more (and never lie, although it's fine to deny knowledge and post suspicions even when you're not sure), so that mafia can't get by without posting. Then mafia who do post might eventually slip up by posting contradictions or lies that they had to make to keep their identity secret. Since I've asked for people to explain their votes, I might as well start. I came to the thread pretty close to the deadline as I was working all afternoon on other things so it was too late to really be influencing outcomes. But since this is something that's a good ploy for mafia members to use, I'll do my best to get in early in the next discussion. I ended up stacking an unnecessary extra vote on kane just to see if the olympic clue really was that straightforward, but it wasn't. I do think we should focus away from clue-based mafia hunting for now. | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 25 2010 11:43 Zona wrote: Man, one thing I really want is for all voters to post why they voted the way they did. If we're going to focus away from clue-based mafia hunting (since it hasn't done us much good so far), this kind of reasoning is the minimum required. Town members, even those with blue powers, need to post more (and never lie, although it's fine to deny knowledge and post suspicions even when you're not sure), so that mafia can't get by without posting. Then mafia who do post might eventually slip up by posting contradictions or lies that they had to make to keep their identity secret. Since I've asked for people to explain their votes, I might as well start. I came to the thread pretty close to the deadline as I was working all afternoon on other things so it was too late to really be influencing outcomes. But since this is something that's a good ploy for mafia members to use, I'll do my best to get in early in the next discussion. I ended up stacking an unnecessary extra vote on kane just to see if the olympic clue really was that straightforward, but it wasn't. I do think we should focus away from clue-based mafia hunting for now. Why I voted the way I did: I voted for kane]deth[ initially because of the evidence meeple posted. However, keits clues from Day 1 and his finger pointing behavior/inactivity convinced me he is more likely mafia than kane. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On January 25 2010 11:43 Zona wrote: Man, one thing I really want is for all voters to post why they voted the way they did. If we're going to focus away from clue-based mafia hunting (since it hasn't done us much good so far), this kind of reasoning is the minimum required. Town members, even those with blue powers, need to post more (and never lie, although it's fine to deny knowledge and post suspicions even when you're not sure), so that mafia can't get by without posting. Then mafia who do post might eventually slip up by posting contradictions or lies that they had to make to keep their identity secret. Since I've asked for people to explain their votes, I might as well start. I came to the thread pretty close to the deadline as I was working all afternoon on other things so it was too late to really be influencing outcomes. But since this is something that's a good ploy for mafia members to use, I'll do my best to get in early in the next discussion. I ended up stacking an unnecessary extra vote on kane just to see if the olympic clue really was that straightforward, but it wasn't. I do think we should focus away from clue-based mafia hunting for now. I don't think the clues even pointed towards kane... it was kinda a stretch from the beginning and I don't know why people went for it. I've already explained why I voted for tredmasta. I wouldn't say we should back away from clues, but think more objectively when considering them. A kane is a fairly obscure musical instrument... and if you ask someone on the street "what does this look like" I assure you they will almost never say "bucket" | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
It is all a moot point if Zona is right about us reading the clues wrong. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
But as I said before clue-based lynches dont get us anywhere, neither does double lynch without real social clues. If I had voted it wouldve been Kane or DrHelvetica most probably - if we can force people to choose between options like that, they have to reveal something. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On January 25 2010 12:15 789 wrote: Tredmasta was as much of a stretch as kane was. I was considering voting for flamewheel, but at the time I voted it wouldn't have mattered. It is all a moot point if Zona is right about us reading the clues wrong. I'd have to disagree, the tredmasta/flamewheel link was way stronger imo... The chances of kane actually referring to that hat-like instrument were low, but also it doesn't look like a bucket. I know I've posted a picture and argued in favour of this case before. But if you look at it objectively, and you're not trying to see a bucket, then its not there, whereas running/olympic runner/treadmill can't be imagined. | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
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510Sushi
Azerbaijan331 Posts
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
 . Well I abstained because at the time I didn't think we had enough information to lynch anybody, so I ended up voting to abstain so no one would be biased by the number of votes or something.In any case, I think kane]deth['s green flip means that we need to get everybody to talk. The fact that kane never came in once to defend himself really confused us and we started to point our fingers at shadows. We should really rethink our game plan. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On January 25 2010 12:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why I voted the way I did: I voted for kane]deth[ initially because of the evidence meeple posted. However, keits clues from Day 1 and his finger pointing behavior/inactivity convinced me he is more likely mafia than kane. Aggressive finger pointing isnt something a mafia would do too much I think. | ||
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StimiLant
United States534 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 25 2010 12:15 789 wrote: Tredmasta was as much of a stretch as kane was. I was considering voting for flamewheel, but at the time I voted it wouldn't have mattered. It is all a moot point if Zona is right about us reading the clues wrong. From the general mood, I feel like both tredmasta and I were equally as likely a "stretch." | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
On January 25 2010 12:51 JohannesH wrote: Aggressive finger pointing isnt something a mafia would do too much I think. It could be a useful tactic for the mafia to send one to do that. If the mafia can cause chaos amongst the townies it makes it much harder for them to work together and take out the mafia. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On January 25 2010 12:51 JohannesH wrote: Aggressive finger pointing isnt something a mafia would do too much I think. Agreed... or at least they shouldn't do it. | ||
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On January 25 2010 12:34 ghote wrote: ... i chose to vote the way i did, because when i saw the votes, it seamed that the only person getting votes, was kane. everyone had already taken there votes off of flamewheel, and nobody had voted for Hobbes (the two people who i think fit the clues the best) so i stuck with the crowed, because i dont think a single vote for the eather of those two would have mattered. You can't always just follow the crowd and use that as a crutch. Eventually you'll need to form your own opinion and defend it. | ||
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