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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 23 2010 06:20 GMT
#1021
I'm not saying flamewheel isn't mafia... but there are other ways for those clues to be interpreted...

Some of the people here aren't really looking at the clues before deciding what to do... The fact that you came out so strongly for it immediately after DrH suggested it is somewhat suspicious that you're just following his lead instead of thinking for yourself.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 23 2010 06:23 GMT
#1022
Meeple--is this last post directed at me? From context, I'm going to assume no but I'd like to make sure.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
January 23 2010 06:24 GMT
#1023
looking at this game from out to in and in to out id say if we dont find at least one mafia itll be gg mafia wins soon imo
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 23 2010 06:24 GMT
#1024
On January 23 2010 15:23 flamewheel91 wrote:
Meeple--is this last post directed at me? From context, I'm going to assume no but I'd like to make sure.


directed at ghote
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 23 2010 06:30 GMT
#1025
On January 23 2010 15:14 ghote wrote:
flamewheel for one "there have been multiple clues leading to flamewheel and hobbes as long as one of them is lynched our lives will be better" there have been multiple clues to flamewheel and Hobbes, please read the whole quote next time you come at me with this kind of accusation.
there is only one quote leading to you, i have not stated otherwise, it is the fact that this one clue is so resounding with aspects of your profile that i have strong beliefs that you are ether mafia, or a miller, it is the safe bet to go with the first option.
secondly if you look back at some of my previous posts on day 1 i have advocated for the lynch of Hobbes so using the argument of bandwagoning on this double lynch is purely based upon your speculation.
(and i ment today as in game days not right this minuet ^^)
all in all i believe that you are linked directly to the clue left behind in this murder, and because of that correlation, you deserve to be lynched


And for you: please type what you mean then as to not confuse other people. Furthermore, if you have so strongly advocated for the lynching of Hobbes since day 1 then why do you cease and desist on calling for his lynching THEN for the double lynching the next day?

I would be very pleased if you could find me some more evidence as to why I am mafia, since you seem so deadset against me being innocent. If you can find more proof (which I would find highly unlikely) that isn't oh-so-flimsy.

And since I've cleared up my confusion with meeples' post:

On January 23 2010 15:20 meeple wrote:
I'm not saying flamewheel isn't mafia... but there are other ways for those clues to be interpreted...

Some of the people here aren't really looking at the clues before deciding what to do... The fact that you came out so strongly for it immediately after DrH suggested it is somewhat suspicious that you're just following his lead instead of thinking for yourself.


Since you have come up with nothing original, you are still a bandwagoner, which pretty much means that any rational person would not place a lot of weight on your judgment. As you've stated, you have not found any other clue leading to me. I would assume that if one such as yourself were so strongly convinced that I am mafia, you would at least try to pull more information on me to make your posts more credible.

All in all being said, I leave this post with one last thought:

At this point, it can be viewed as "suspicious" that you so suddenly jump upon to agree with the good Doctor about me. Now, if I were somebody else I may be like "omg you teh mafia cuz u tryin to incite stuff!!!1!!" but I will not until I have firmly rooted my thinking in logic. What I mean by that is, I have nothing against you.

THREE HOURS FLASH V JAEDONG YAY YAY YAY.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
January 23 2010 06:32 GMT
#1026
this msl is going to be EPIC
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 23 2010 06:34 GMT
#1027
Thinking 3-1 Flash, hoping 3-1/2 Jaedong. Since if Flash wins, we're like OH DARN BONJWA OF BONJWAS and then everything just becomes a one-sided pwnfest.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 23 2010 06:37 GMT
#1028
Oh and by three I mean one point five.
Hmmm I can't do math.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
January 23 2010 06:39 GMT
#1029
yeah if flash wins he will be super hyped as well he should be but i do hope for great games from jd and i have faith in jds zvt
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
January 23 2010 07:59 GMT
#1030
On January 22 2010 11:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 11:12 blue_arrow wrote:
i think somebody has to pay the consequences for the turn of events here

what happened between hobbes being the solid choice to t_co suddenly getting wtfpwned?
by glancing through the last two dozen or so pages that i missed, it appears that t_co was lynched because he was aggravating people? am i right or wrong here?


He was lynched because he was playing overly aggressive. He was pointing fingers and making accusations with zero evidence, which hurts the town whether he's mafia or not.

I dont agree with this... It can be good to have more accusations going on since that gives us more intel about peoples opinions on each other. And when someone turns out to be mafiaman you can intepret that info.

Everyone being totally quiet is worse than baseless accusations made to see reactions.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 23 2010 08:01 GMT
#1031
Though he was essentially blanketing the field with these accusations, not really providing any new insight.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 23 2010 08:09 GMT
#1032
On January 23 2010 16:59 JohannesH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 11:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 22 2010 11:12 blue_arrow wrote:
i think somebody has to pay the consequences for the turn of events here

what happened between hobbes being the solid choice to t_co suddenly getting wtfpwned?
by glancing through the last two dozen or so pages that i missed, it appears that t_co was lynched because he was aggravating people? am i right or wrong here?


He was lynched because he was playing overly aggressive. He was pointing fingers and making accusations with zero evidence, which hurts the town whether he's mafia or not.

I dont agree with this... It can be good to have more accusations going on since that gives us more intel about peoples opinions on each other. And when someone turns out to be mafiaman you can intepret that info.

Everyone being totally quiet is worse than baseless accusations made to see reactions.


t_co wasn't all bad... and its really unfortunate that he turned out to be a townie... but he just wasn't being helpful really. I agree that you need some accusations thrown around to see people react... but he did it in such a way as to bring suspicion on himself
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 23 2010 08:13 GMT
#1033
To be honest, I was pretty sure t_co was going to flip green. I just finally caved in and joined the "lynch t_co" crowd to quiet down the drama. The thing that made me think he was green is that he said if he was mayor he would lynch meeple. If meeple turned green we should lynch him the next day.

If he was mafia he would know if meeple is mafia or not. It would be odd to push for a day 1 lynch of another mafia. If meeple flips green and he is mafia - then he gets lynched. It wouldn't make much sense for a mafia to set himself up to get lynched after gaining the mayor position. That was just my opinion really. I probably should have brought it up, but I was tired of reading page after page of drivel lol.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
510Sushi
Profile Joined October 2008
Azerbaijan331 Posts
January 23 2010 08:41 GMT
#1034
flash fighting woo
i am the ghote
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 23 2010 09:08 GMT
#1035
JD GAME ONE HOLY NUTS RINES DIE LIKE BUTTER.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 23 2010 11:32 GMT
#1036
hey I was planning on reading/posting after the MSL finals, but the thing stretched out a lot longer than I expected (in a bad way) and I have a very sour taste in my mouth and will forgo posting until later.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
January 23 2010 12:18 GMT
#1037
Okay I've read the first 50 pages and I'm off eating just one thing.

I love when people talk about math. Even something this simple things just elude you...

Double lynch only when it reduces KP? What the... Seriously. If mafia KP reduces with 3 correct lynches it doesn't matter if you go 2-1 or 1-2, given all three lynches are a hit. It will happen after two days.

If you think you are 100% sure it doesn't matter. If you are wrong - again it doesn't matter, because you would probably lynch those 3 even in a 1-1-1 order.

Another thing. Even if a dual lynch doesn't reduce KP it reduces mafia number. So even in the hypothetical situation where we could have a dual lynch now and it would be a dual-success too. We would be left with 5 mafia and an unchanged KP of 3, yes. But those 3 clues would point to 5 mafia members instead of 6 - giving out possibly more valuable information. And if you go single lynch maybe one or more of those 3 clues would point against someone you were already sure of being mafia, etc.

I think you get the point.

Bon appetite.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
January 23 2010 12:19 GMT
#1038
^Those 3 clues from next day.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 23 2010 12:30 GMT
#1039
On January 23 2010 21:18 Ng5 wrote:
Okay I've read the first 50 pages and I'm off eating just one thing.

I love when people talk about math. Even something this simple things just elude you...

Double lynch only when it reduces KP? What the... Seriously. If mafia KP reduces with 3 correct lynches it doesn't matter if you go 2-1 or 1-2, given all three lynches are a hit. It will happen after two days.

If you think you are 100% sure it doesn't matter. If you are wrong - again it doesn't matter, because you would probably lynch those 3 even in a 1-1-1 order.

Another thing. Even if a dual lynch doesn't reduce KP it reduces mafia number. So even in the hypothetical situation where we could have a dual lynch now and it would be a dual-success too. We would be left with 5 mafia and an unchanged KP of 3, yes. But those 3 clues would point to 5 mafia members instead of 6 - giving out possibly more valuable information. And if you go single lynch maybe one or more of those 3 clues would point against someone you were already sure of being mafia, etc.

I think you get the point.

Bon appetite.


I agree, and also we've got clues piling up, by tommorow we'll have 8 clues in our arsenal to draw from. We should be able to draw two people that we're absolutely sure of.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 23 2010 12:31 GMT
#1040
I'll post what I think of all of this tomorrow. I'm too upset right now to even think or read or do anything at all.
RIP Aaliyah
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