2012 Olympics Event Discussion Thread - Page 287
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18311 Posts
On August 13 2012 18:07 Alethios wrote: Andy Murray's gold is the biggest victory he's ever had only because he's never won a grand slam. He'd trade that gold for victory at Wimbledon in a heart beat. A heart beat. Look at Nadal, he pulled out of the Olympics to give himself some rest in the lead up to the US Open. He's already won gold, so why bother going for a second? Are you serious? Do you seriously believe he would trade that gold medal IN HIS HOME OLYMPICS for a wimbledon victory? | ||
fearus
China2164 Posts
On August 13 2012 18:56 sharkie wrote: Are you serious? Do you seriously believe he would trade that gold medal IN HIS HOME OLYMPICS for a wimbledon victory? Yes. | ||
radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On August 13 2012 13:10 DannyJ wrote: They need to bring back tug of war. I don't care if it could last hours / days. A very undervalued event and a really excellent spirit. Basically it is the olympics without the big sports and big budgets. It has become THE hunting ground for future olympic sports, which is why it is supported by IOC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Games | ||
Fleuria
England466 Posts
On August 13 2012 18:56 sharkie wrote: Are you serious? Do you seriously believe he would trade that gold medal IN HIS HOME OLYMPICS for a wimbledon victory? Yes he would because its his home gland slam, also Olympics is getting the same respect ranking wise as a grand slam in rio due to the massive success at London. Also Nadal has pulled out of the US open aswell when he pulled out of the Olympics. Basketball and Tennis should stay, football don't know so much should really be a pro competition like the other 2. | ||
Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
On August 13 2012 16:30 sharkie wrote: Oh Germany doesn't care about the UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship? That's new to me. Let me clarify: We don't care that you get a spot to the olympics for performing well. The point is, we don't send the best team to these events: The best 20-year old players will simply already play in the adult team. It is just not important to us as a football nation. Of course there is always players who would love to go and qualify, and they are sad when we don't. But that is not the point. The point is that we don't nearly do everything in our power to qualify, and besides a couple of articles in the major newspapers directly after the tournament, noone talks about it. | ||
Grettin
42381 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18311 Posts
On August 13 2012 19:57 Malinor wrote: Let me clarify: We don't care that you get a spot to the olympics for performing well. The point is, we don't send the best team to these events: The best 20-year old players will simply already play in the adult team. It is just not important to us as a football nation. Of course there is always players who would love to go and qualify, and they are sad when we don't. But that is not the point. The point is that we don't nearly do everything in our power to qualify, and besides a couple of articles in the major newspapers directly after the tournament, noone talks about it. Oh and other countries send their best players to these events? Pretty sure their 20 year old super talents also play for the senior side already. And again, Germany doesn't care about the UEFA Under 21? They don't stop mentioning that Hummels, Neuer, Ozil, Boateng, etc. are UEFA Under 21 Champions. Commentators, Coaches, Players, Experts. | ||
Asha
United Kingdom38149 Posts
On August 13 2012 18:56 sharkie wrote: Are you serious? Do you seriously believe he would trade that gold medal IN HIS HOME OLYMPICS for a wimbledon victory? A hundred times yes. The Olympic tennis has really been a sideshow on the tour since it was reintroduced, and it was only with the added weight of being held at Wimbledon that this year got more interest and prestige. Maybe in the future winning the Olympics will be held in the same esteem as winning a slam - at the least it seems like top players aren't outright skipping it nowadays since they've added in tour point -, but for now I'm pretty sure most players would trade in Olympic gold for a Slam title. | ||
Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
On August 13 2012 21:00 sharkie wrote: Oh and other countries send their best players to these events? Pretty sure their 20 year old super talents also play for the senior side already. And again, Germany doesn't care about the UEFA Under 21? They don't stop mentioning that Hummels, Neuer, Ozil, Boateng, etc. are UEFA Under 21 Champions. Commentators, Coaches, Players, Experts. I don't know what outher countries do, I talk about Germany here. You seem to think that I am trying to make up excuses for the poor (non)-showing of Germany in the Olympic Football events, just pretending that Germans don't care. But for all I know we really don't care and I have already mentioned why I think that. And as I said, for the women it was a huge upset, Olympia is much more important for the german womens team. Of course I can be wrong. But Germany hasn't qualified for the olympics since 1988. Given that in the following 24 years the senior team made it into the top4 of 4 European Champinships and 4 World Cups (and 2 finals each). How likely do you think it is that during all this time our youth was so terrible that despite all their efforts they weren't able to qualify? I find that very unlikely. edit: The U21 championships of the mentioned players serves mostly as an argument for the hopeful coming of a "golden generation". They didn't make Özil, Götze or Reus or whatever play any olympic qualifiers though (but now I really don't know which players would be too old and whatnot, just an observation, I just know that Götze could have played, but didn't). | ||
sharkie
Austria18311 Posts
On August 13 2012 21:15 Malinor wrote: I don't know what outher countries do, I talk about Germany here. You seem to think that I am trying to make up excuses for the poor (non)-showing of Germany in the Olympic Football events, just pretending that Germans don't care. But for all I know we really don't care and I have already mentioned why I think that. And as I said, for the women it was a huge upset, Olympia is much more important for the german womens team. Of course I can be wrong. But Germany hasn't qualified for the olympics since 1988. Given that in the following 24 years the senior team made it into the top4 of 4 European Champinships and 4 World Cups (and 2 finals each). How likely do you think it is that during all this time our youth was so terrible that despite all their efforts they weren't able to qualify? I find that very unlikely. I am talking about the UEFA Under 21 tournaments here which is the third most important tournament in International Football for Europeans. Germany does take them very seriously. And Germany has just caught up now with their youth work. Their 1990 win was impressive but there is a reason they have won only one (two if you count under 21) big tournament since then. | ||
Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
On August 13 2012 20:20 Grettin wrote: Well, just read that first gold medalist got caught using anabolic steroids. She's the Belarus shot-put champion, Nadzeja Ostaptshuk. + Show Spoiler + ![]() Who could have guessed. I saw her pushing the shot when I switched channels and just after I saw the next athlete I was 100% sure that it was in fact the women competition ^^ The real question is if she still gets the life long free supply of sausages one belarus sponsor offered her for the gold medal :p | ||
Aristodemus
England1985 Posts
INDIVIDUAL GOLD Greg Rutherford - Long Jump (English) Mo Farah - 10k (English) Mo Farah - 5k (English) Jess Ennis - Heptathlon (English) Bradley Wiggins - TT (English) Vicky Pendleton - Keirin (English) Andy Murray - Tennis (Scottish) Ben Ainslie - Finn class (English) Peter Wilson - Shooting (English) Luke Campbell - Bantamweight (English) Anthony Joshua - Super Heavyweight (English) Nicola Adams - W Flyweight (English) Ed McKeever - Canoe sprint (English) Jason Kenny - Sprint (English BOLTON!) Chris Hoy - Keirin (Scottish) Laura Trott - Omnium (English) Charlotte Dujardin - Dressage (English) Jade Jones - W57k Taekwondo (Welsh) Alistair Brownlee - Triathlon (English) TEAM GOLD Etienne Stott - Canoe (English) Tim Baillee - Canoe (Scottish) Phillip Hindes - Team Sprint (German but represented through England) Jason Kenny - Team Sprint (English BOLTON!) Chris Hoy - Team Sprint (Scottish) Laura Trott - Team Pursuit W (English) Jo Rowsell - Team pursuit W (English) Dani King - Team pursuit W (English) Ed Clancy - Team pursuit (English) Stephen Burke - Team pursuit (English) Geraint Thomas - Team pursuit (Welsh) Peter Kennaugh - Team pursuit (IOM) Alex Gregory - Mens Four (English) Peter Reed - Mens Four (English) Tom James - Mens Four (Welsh) Andrew Triggs Hodge - Mens Four (Seriously how could he not be English) Helen Glover - Womens pair (English) Heather Stanning - Womens pair (Scottish/English)) Katherine Grainger - Womens db sculls (Scottish) Anna Watkins - Womens db sculls (English) Katherine Copeland - Womens LW db sculls (English) Sophie Hosking - Womens LW db sculls (English/Scottish) Charlotte Dujardin - Team Dressage (English) Laura Bechtolscheimer - Team Dressage (English) Carl Hester - Team Dressage (Sark) Nick Skelton - Team Jumping (English) Scott Brash - Team Jumping (Scottish) Peter Charles - Team Jumping (English) Ben Maher - Team Jumping (English) INDIVIDUAL GOLD England - 16 Scotland - 2 Wales - 1 TEAM GOLD England - 20 Scotland - 4 Wales - 2 Isle of Man - 1 (shame their real star was fucked over) Sark - 1 | ||
WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 13 2012 22:05 ShadeR wrote: Yeah the tennis this Olympics was only marginally more interesting purely because it was at Wimbeldon. I don't know, the prospect of Federer actually getting his Golden Slam would have been enough to sell the whole thing for me. | ||
Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
That would be + Show Spoiler + The Queen+ Show Spoiler + because she is still the head of state of Australia, Canada, Jamaica, New Zealand as well as Great Britain of course | ||
Lmui
Canada6207 Posts
Doesn't look like particularly fit people trying but it does give some scale. I'm fairly fit and I can probably only keep up with him for the first 800m, I don't think I'd last much longer than that. | ||
AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
On August 13 2012 18:56 sharkie wrote:Are you serious? Do you seriously believe he would trade that gold medal IN HIS HOME OLYMPICS for a wimbledon victory? Do you follow tennis...? He would in a second. | ||
sharkie
Austria18311 Posts
On August 14 2012 08:42 AndyJay wrote: Do you follow tennis...? He would in a second. I follow tennis enough to know no one remembers single Grand Slam winners opposed to Golden Medal tennis players. | ||
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