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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 04 2012 14:54 GMT
#3921
ah man. the chinese girl just had to land her final jump and would have gotten gold (trampoline) >< poor girl. congrats to the canadian. bahhhh
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
August 04 2012 14:54 GMT
#3922
On August 04 2012 23:51 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


I'll just take an example: judo
Historically, even if it's less the case, judges decision have always been a joke with the most incredible biais towards japanese. That's a reality and nobody tries to change that. the same happens in many sports.


I don't think this is because of politics though. People naturally tend to think Japanese are the best at Judo. And since the judging is pretty subjective and the referees are humans too, I don't think you can say it is real corruption.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 14:56:42
August 04 2012 14:55 GMT
#3923
On August 04 2012 23:53 Asha` wrote:
argh there's nothing I want to watch on, wtf is this. entertain me olympics

This so much T_T

Past few days, *turn on TV* ...BOOM I'M ENTERTAINED!

Right now, *turn on TV* ....... ...... ......

On August 04 2012 23:54 Doraemon wrote:
ah man. the chinese girl just had to land her final jump and would have gotten gold (trampoline) >< poor girl. congrats to the canadian. bahhhh

Really? For some reason they didn't show any of this, but ;__; I really want China to pass US for golds haha ._.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 15:00:47
August 04 2012 14:55 GMT
#3924
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


There is no conspiracy, every body knows it. Theres always been biases in sports with relative ambiguity involved whether its in the scoring process or minor rulings with major impacts . Not like its going to change now and it doesnt really bother anyone unless they are on the but end of it. Denying it outright though is just naive.

And please controversy in sport has nothing to do with UFO's or Ghosts or whatever. What im suggesting is a fact everyone knows for a while now, and something that everyones just learnt to deal with. Its not like its just the British who are guilty of it either, the chinese were guilty of quite a few dubious instances on their turf aswell. Thats just how it works. Not all sports are like that ofcourse but where ever the possibility has existed it has happened.

Im sorry if your world would come crashing down if the integrity of the olympics would fall to pieces (which really isnt the case tbh) should these things be true. Its not necessarily blatant corruption its just bias, its wrong and it happens. Doesnt bother me, shouldnt bother you. But dont deny it lol.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
August 04 2012 14:58 GMT
#3925
Relax! Velodrome starting
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
August 04 2012 14:58 GMT
#3926
On August 04 2012 23:55 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


There is no conspiracy, every body knows it. Theres always been biases in sports with relative ambiguity involved whether its in the scoring process or the . Not like its going to change now and it doesnt really bother anyone unless they are on the but end of it.

And please controversy in sport has nothing to do with UFO's or Ghosts or whatever. What im suggesting is a fact everyone knows for a while now, and something that everyones just learnt to deal with. Its not like its just the British who are guilty of it either, the chinese were guilty of quite a few dubious instances on their turf aswell. Thats just how it works. Not all sports are like that ofcourse but where ever the possibility has existed it has happened.


It just boils down to a difference of opinion. I believe the judges have used their best judgement to protect the integrity of the Olympic games and you don't, there's no fact involved at all just conspiracy. I'll leave it at that as there's no resolving a difference of opinion.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 14:58 GMT
#3927
On August 04 2012 23:54 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:51 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


I'll just take an example: judo
Historically, even if it's less the case, judges decision have always been a joke with the most incredible biais towards japanese. That's a reality and nobody tries to change that. the same happens in many sports.


I don't think this is because of politics though. People naturally tend to think Japanese are the best at Judo. And since the judging is pretty subjective and the referees are humans too, I don't think you can say it is real corruption.


I agree 100% that it isn't corruption. Just an heavy biais which is present in most sports as long as there are non objective decisions included. The biais toward japanese judoka is exactly the same as the biais towards host country athletes: something which exist and that you've to deal with it.
Zest fanboy.
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 14:59:41
August 04 2012 14:58 GMT
#3928
On August 04 2012 23:54 Doraemon wrote:
ah man. the chinese girl just had to land her final jump and would have gotten gold (trampoline) >< poor girl. congrats to the canadian. bahhhh


I was watching that too (mostly because there's nothing else to). Still landed bronze.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 04 2012 14:59 GMT
#3929
On August 04 2012 23:58 sinii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:55 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


There is no conspiracy, every body knows it. Theres always been biases in sports with relative ambiguity involved whether its in the scoring process or the . Not like its going to change now and it doesnt really bother anyone unless they are on the but end of it.

And please controversy in sport has nothing to do with UFO's or Ghosts or whatever. What im suggesting is a fact everyone knows for a while now, and something that everyones just learnt to deal with. Its not like its just the British who are guilty of it either, the chinese were guilty of quite a few dubious instances on their turf aswell. Thats just how it works. Not all sports are like that ofcourse but where ever the possibility has existed it has happened.


It just boils down to a difference of opinion. I believe the judges have used their best judgement to protect the integrity of the Olympic games and you don't, there's no fact involved at all just conspiracy. I'll leave it at that as there's no resolving a difference of opinion.


So you believe that allowing a cyclist to crash intentionally to restart the race protects the integrity of the sport ?

Point taken.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
August 04 2012 14:59 GMT
#3930
On August 04 2012 23:58 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:54 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:51 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


I'll just take an example: judo
Historically, even if it's less the case, judges decision have always been a joke with the most incredible biais towards japanese. That's a reality and nobody tries to change that. the same happens in many sports.


I don't think this is because of politics though. People naturally tend to think Japanese are the best at Judo. And since the judging is pretty subjective and the referees are humans too, I don't think you can say it is real corruption.


I agree 100% that it isn't corruption. Just an heavy biais which is present in most sports as long as there are non objective decisions included. The biais toward japanese judoka is exactly the same as the biais towards host country athletes: something which exist and that you've to deal with it.


I geuss thats pretty true.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 15:01:04
August 04 2012 15:00 GMT
#3931
On August 04 2012 23:59 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:58 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:54 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:51 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


I'll just take an example: judo
Historically, even if it's less the case, judges decision have always been a joke with the most incredible biais towards japanese. That's a reality and nobody tries to change that. the same happens in many sports.


I don't think this is because of politics though. People naturally tend to think Japanese are the best at Judo. And since the judging is pretty subjective and the referees are humans too, I don't think you can say it is real corruption.


I agree 100% that it isn't corruption. Just an heavy biais which is present in most sports as long as there are non objective decisions included. The biais toward japanese judoka is exactly the same as the biais towards host country athletes: something which exist and that you've to deal with it.


I geuss thats pretty true.


it sucks when it happens to you but when you're the best you've banshees to threaten the judges.
Zest fanboy.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
August 04 2012 15:02 GMT
#3932
On August 04 2012 23:59 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:58 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:55 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


There is no conspiracy, every body knows it. Theres always been biases in sports with relative ambiguity involved whether its in the scoring process or the . Not like its going to change now and it doesnt really bother anyone unless they are on the but end of it.

And please controversy in sport has nothing to do with UFO's or Ghosts or whatever. What im suggesting is a fact everyone knows for a while now, and something that everyones just learnt to deal with. Its not like its just the British who are guilty of it either, the chinese were guilty of quite a few dubious instances on their turf aswell. Thats just how it works. Not all sports are like that ofcourse but where ever the possibility has existed it has happened.


It just boils down to a difference of opinion. I believe the judges have used their best judgement to protect the integrity of the Olympic games and you don't, there's no fact involved at all just conspiracy. I'll leave it at that as there's no resolving a difference of opinion.


So you believe that allowing a cyclist to crash intentionally to restart the race protects the integrity of the sport ?

Point taken.


If it's within the rules yes? I feel we are just going round in circles here... I'm out.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 04 2012 15:03 GMT
#3933
On August 04 2012 23:58 Aristodemus wrote:
Relax! Velodrome starting

Bad memories for me there sigh T____T

I guess at this point I'm mainly just anticipating the track finals up to 1500m or so and the tennis finals. Not much else I can think of
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
August 04 2012 15:04 GMT
#3934
On August 05 2012 00:03 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:58 Aristodemus wrote:
Relax! Velodrome starting

Bad memories for me there sigh T____T

I guess at this point I'm mainly just anticipating the track finals up to 1500m or so and the tennis finals. Not much else I can think of

Really? Been pretty good memories for me and now my home town hero heh!
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 04 2012 15:05 GMT
#3935
On August 05 2012 00:02 sinii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:59 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:58 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:55 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


There is no conspiracy, every body knows it. Theres always been biases in sports with relative ambiguity involved whether its in the scoring process or the . Not like its going to change now and it doesnt really bother anyone unless they are on the but end of it.

And please controversy in sport has nothing to do with UFO's or Ghosts or whatever. What im suggesting is a fact everyone knows for a while now, and something that everyones just learnt to deal with. Its not like its just the British who are guilty of it either, the chinese were guilty of quite a few dubious instances on their turf aswell. Thats just how it works. Not all sports are like that ofcourse but where ever the possibility has existed it has happened.


It just boils down to a difference of opinion. I believe the judges have used their best judgement to protect the integrity of the Olympic games and you don't, there's no fact involved at all just conspiracy. I'll leave it at that as there's no resolving a difference of opinion.


So you believe that allowing a cyclist to crash intentionally to restart the race protects the integrity of the sport ?

Point taken.


If it's within the rules yes? I feel we are just going round in circles here... I'm out.


Yeah your right cant argue with people naive fanboys in denial. No wonder its going in circles.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 04 2012 15:05 GMT
#3936
On August 04 2012 23:58 Caesarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:54 Doraemon wrote:
ah man. the chinese girl just had to land her final jump and would have gotten gold (trampoline) >< poor girl. congrats to the canadian. bahhhh


I was watching that too (mostly because there's nothing else to). Still landed bronze.


yer! wasn't far off gold so would have surpassed the canadian girl had she finished the landing. =[ ah well. china "should" still win all the badminton, diving and table tennis gold XD hehe, women's team fencing tonight too. go china!
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 15:06 GMT
#3937
On August 05 2012 00:05 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:58 Caesarion wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:54 Doraemon wrote:
ah man. the chinese girl just had to land her final jump and would have gotten gold (trampoline) >< poor girl. congrats to the canadian. bahhhh


I was watching that too (mostly because there's nothing else to). Still landed bronze.


yer! wasn't far off gold so would have surpassed the canadian girl had she finished the landing. =[ ah well. china "should" still win all the badminton, diving and table tennis gold XD hehe, women's team fencing tonight too. go china!


double men badminton finals gonna be pretty good and disputed.
Zest fanboy.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 15:07:26
August 04 2012 15:07 GMT
#3938
On August 05 2012 00:05 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:58 Caesarion wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:54 Doraemon wrote:
ah man. the chinese girl just had to land her final jump and would have gotten gold (trampoline) >< poor girl. congrats to the canadian. bahhhh


I was watching that too (mostly because there's nothing else to). Still landed bronze.


yer! wasn't far off gold so would have surpassed the canadian girl had she finished the landing. =[ ah well. china "should" still win all the badminton, diving and table tennis gold XD hehe, women's team fencing tonight too. go china!

haha why are you cheering for China? :D yayay

Most people cheer either for their home country or by default against China ._.

I do hope they can win the most golds by the end, but it will be close, if not a US win.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
August 04 2012 15:08 GMT
#3939
On August 05 2012 00:05 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:02 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:59 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:58 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:55 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:48 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:44 Rebs wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:34 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:
I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)


T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy


On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.


If you honestly believe that at this point after so much evidence (although at this point a case could be made that its circumstantial) to the contrary then your either deceiving yourself or just painfully naive.

Could it just be, possibly that the quality of the officiating is not up to par after all the nonsense that has gone down from Shin, to the Japanese boxer to the badminton to now rowing and god knows what else that might have been missed ? Can you not even allow for that possibility ?

Theres politics involved and to a large extent this event has become a dick measuring contest. Ofcourse there will be controversy.


Quite honestly I'm not the conspiracy theory type. I don't believe in UFO's I don't believe in ghosts and I don't believe the USA blew up their own twin towers.

What your suggesting jeopardises the entire integrity of the Olympic games and if it were true I'm not even sure I would be watching it right now.


There is no conspiracy, every body knows it. Theres always been biases in sports with relative ambiguity involved whether its in the scoring process or the . Not like its going to change now and it doesnt really bother anyone unless they are on the but end of it.

And please controversy in sport has nothing to do with UFO's or Ghosts or whatever. What im suggesting is a fact everyone knows for a while now, and something that everyones just learnt to deal with. Its not like its just the British who are guilty of it either, the chinese were guilty of quite a few dubious instances on their turf aswell. Thats just how it works. Not all sports are like that ofcourse but where ever the possibility has existed it has happened.


It just boils down to a difference of opinion. I believe the judges have used their best judgement to protect the integrity of the Olympic games and you don't, there's no fact involved at all just conspiracy. I'll leave it at that as there's no resolving a difference of opinion.


So you believe that allowing a cyclist to crash intentionally to restart the race protects the integrity of the sport ?

Point taken.


If it's within the rules yes? I feel we are just going round in circles here... I'm out.


Yeah your right cant argue with people naive fanboys in denial. No wonder its going in circles.

People wanted an end to this discussion which I agree with but calling people fanboys isnt needed. They didnt break any rules, something you would know if you either watched all of the qualifying or knew the rules.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
August 04 2012 15:08 GMT
#3940
On August 05 2012 00:05 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 23:58 Caesarion wrote:
On August 04 2012 23:54 Doraemon wrote:
ah man. the chinese girl just had to land her final jump and would have gotten gold (trampoline) >< poor girl. congrats to the canadian. bahhhh


I was watching that too (mostly because there's nothing else to). Still landed bronze.


yer! wasn't far off gold so would have surpassed the canadian girl had she finished the landing. =[ ah well. china "should" still win all the badminton, diving and table tennis gold XD hehe, women's team fencing tonight too. go china!


Will be rooting for Korea in the fencing finals. I really really want to see Shin A Lam get a gold medal.
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