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On August 04 2012 22:45 Bobble wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:39 sinii wrote:On August 04 2012 22:37 Bobble wrote:On August 04 2012 22:28 sinii wrote:On August 04 2012 22:05 Crushinator wrote:On August 04 2012 21:52 revel8 wrote:On August 04 2012 21:48 Crushinator wrote:On August 04 2012 21:46 revel8 wrote:On August 04 2012 21:38 Crushinator wrote:On August 04 2012 21:33 revel8 wrote:
Pretty funny seeing the whining in this thread too!
Also pretty sad to see people actually attempting to imply that broken equipment is the same as throwing matches. I guess bitterness makes people say silly things.
Britain are really strong in Cycling these days. Deal with it. Pretty funny to see Brits defend their athletes without any questions at all. Britain has amazing cyclists, that much is clear. But something questionable happened, and your precious athletes are not exempt from criticism. Deal with it. I don't even have any stake in this. I don't see why I would be bitter towards Britain. You can criticise all you like. However if you make stupid statements you just sound silly. Wow if I say an unspecified stupid thing, I sound silly. Such wisdom. To clarify, you replied to my post with a stupid reply. I thought you were being silly just to be argumentative. You said Brits defend their athletes without any questions at all. That was obviously a stupid and innacurate generalization. So you continuing to complain just makes you sound bitter for some reason. I responded to your stupid generalization with one of my own. Not everyone who thinks it was a questionable thing is bitter towards Britain, and not everyone that defends it is doing it just because they are British. But the fact that there is British bias here should be obvious enough. So much so that I don't want to continue the discussion, I don't even care that much, and for the record; I applaud them on their record and the best team won. Hard to have a discussion if any criticism towards a British athelete immediately gets you accused of being a bitter Britain hater. You don't have to agree, but it is ridiculous if you don't even understand why this is seen as questionable by many. You have finally made me see the error in our ways! Your all right! The numerous judges most of which were not British and the head of the French cycling team were in fact all wrong and we must rectify this wrong doing! In response to this we should storm the games take power for ourselves and overturn the decision all in the name of honour and sportsmanship! Wow, what a dick response. Really? Because I thought it encapsulated the stupidity of the debate perfectly, sorry for any offence caused. I would have preferred that this debate just died off quickly, honestly. It seems quite clear that both sides of this argument have opposite viewpoints and hardly anything is going to change that, regardless of explanations. Can we just get past this incident which has clearly rotted past interesting into merely boring and keep this thread going? And to clear things up, I'm not offended, to be honest, if it doesn't involve Australia in any major way, I'm not concerned.
Agreed. Boring argument, it's over with, move on.
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On August 04 2012 21:55 sAsImre wrote:
lol danish me double going in the final after beating team korea, congratz!
Well, while it is a surprise it was worlds number 3 beating worlds number 1. It was very well done, but no sensation. World rank 2 and 3 will meet in the final!
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On August 04 2012 22:46 Trok67 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:44 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 22:43 Heouf wrote:
So why does England, Scotland etc compete under the flag of the Union Jack and not under their own like in other some other sports? IOC only recognizes states. so what about Hong Kong (and also other minor state i couldnt remember) ?
afaik they just didn't suppress Honk Kong after its retrocession to China, not sure tho. pretty sure than participating (or not) under the uk flag pisses off some athletes tho.
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Williams crushing Sharapova in this first set at the tennis.. :S
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On August 04 2012 22:46 Trok67 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:44 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 22:43 Heouf wrote:
So why does England, Scotland etc compete under the flag of the Union Jack and not under their own like in other some other sports? IOC only recognizes states. so what about Hong Kong (and also other minor state i couldnt remember) ?
Hong Kong participates under its own flag. Dutch Antilles, participates under its own flag even though technically they are not a real entity at all. I geuss it is decided in individual cases rather than a general rule.
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On August 04 2012 22:46 Trok67 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:44 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 22:43 Heouf wrote:
So why does England, Scotland etc compete under the flag of the Union Jack and not under their own like in other some other sports? IOC only recognizes states. so what about Hong Kong (and also other minor state i couldnt remember) ?
Hong Kong, Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) and several oceanian states like American Samoa are somehow recognised as independent countries.I am surprised at why Faroe Islands and Greenland are not considered independent in that respect since they are almost as independent of Denmark as Australia is from United Kingdom. I guess it is a political decission to avoid too much conflict.
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On August 04 2012 22:54 radiatoren wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:46 Trok67 wrote:On August 04 2012 22:44 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 22:43 Heouf wrote:
So why does England, Scotland etc compete under the flag of the Union Jack and not under their own like in other some other sports? IOC only recognizes states. so what about Hong Kong (and also other minor state i couldnt remember) ? Hong Kong, Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) and several oceanian states like American Samoa are somehow recognised as independent countries.I am surprised at why Faroe Islands and Greenland are not considered independent in that respect since they are as independent of Denmark as Australia is from United Kingdom. I guess it is a political decission.
Has there ever been an athelete from the faroe islands or greenland participating under danish flag?
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On August 04 2012 22:51 sinii wrote:
Williams crushing Sharapova in this first set at the tennis.. :S
Not surprising. Serena has the edge in head-to-head match-ups. Serena is also playing exceptionally well today.
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On August 04 2012 22:56 Mafe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:54 radiatoren wrote:On August 04 2012 22:46 Trok67 wrote:On August 04 2012 22:44 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 22:43 Heouf wrote:
So why does England, Scotland etc compete under the flag of the Union Jack and not under their own like in other some other sports? IOC only recognizes states. so what about Hong Kong (and also other minor state i couldnt remember) ? Hong Kong, Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) and several oceanian states like American Samoa are somehow recognised as independent countries.I am surprised at why Faroe Islands and Greenland are not considered independent in that respect since they are as independent of Denmark as Australia is from United Kingdom. I guess it is a political decission. Has there ever been an athelete from the faroe islands or greenland participating under danish flag?
There is one at this olympics from the faroe islands Pál Joensen, representing Denmark, a swimmer.
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On August 04 2012 22:59 InCKutte wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:56 Mafe wrote:On August 04 2012 22:54 radiatoren wrote:On August 04 2012 22:46 Trok67 wrote:On August 04 2012 22:44 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 22:43 Heouf wrote:
So why does England, Scotland etc compete under the flag of the Union Jack and not under their own like in other some other sports? IOC only recognizes states. so what about Hong Kong (and also other minor state i couldnt remember) ? Hong Kong, Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) and several oceanian states like American Samoa are somehow recognised as independent countries.I am surprised at why Faroe Islands and Greenland are not considered independent in that respect since they are as independent of Denmark as Australia is from United Kingdom. I guess it is a political decission. Has there ever been an athelete from the faroe islands or greenland participating under danish flag? There is one at this olympics from the faroe islands Pál Joensen, representing Denmark, a swimmer.
he could have been the flag bearer and the whole team 
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On August 04 2012 22:56 Mafe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 22:54 radiatoren wrote:On August 04 2012 22:46 Trok67 wrote:On August 04 2012 22:44 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 22:43 Heouf wrote:
So why does England, Scotland etc compete under the flag of the Union Jack and not under their own like in other some other sports? IOC only recognizes states. so what about Hong Kong (and also other minor state i couldnt remember) ? Hong Kong, Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) and several oceanian states like American Samoa are somehow recognised as independent countries.I am surprised at why Faroe Islands and Greenland are not considered independent in that respect since they are as independent of Denmark as Australia is from United Kingdom. I guess it is a political decission. Has there ever been an athelete from the faroe islands or greenland participating under danish flag?
Pal Joensson is from Faroe Islands and participated for Denmark in 1500 freestyle in this olympic tournament. Several people from Greenland are usually participating in the winter olympics. But you are right that they are a minority and in my opinion, all the more reason to consider them independent to get more participants.
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Aparently I was wrong and the athletes from the Dutch Antilles will participate as Independent Olympians (under the olympic flag), now that that country was dissolved. Also some other small countries with no olympic comittee have done so in the past.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Olympic_Athletes
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Ennis, Farah, Team Pursuit, Kenny (I thought they picked Hoy?), Clancy, Pendleton, Star (Percy/Simpson) and Finn (Ainslee) class sailors are all pretty much favourite for gold today and tomorrow. It gets better and better.
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Damn Serena. 6-0 6-1 O_o She's not messing around when she plays on grass
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I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong."
Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together...
source (In danish)
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On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong." Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together... source (In danish)
T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen.
you gonna to get burn down buddy
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It's really fascinating how a nation of fatty buoys can produce that much athletes. (Joke)
In rowing you are allowed to ask for a restart if you have a technical problem during the start. The common pattern for a start is 3/4 - 1/2 -1/2 - 3/4. After that your start is done and there are little risks of your seat pooping out. I can't find any video yet so I cannot say for sure if they abused the rules (they had an issue after the start but before the 100m or faked the accident) or not.
But to be honest, rowing results are not surprising because the only two nations that are now professional are New Zealand and United Kingdom so them taking all the golds aren't surprising. I think the UK had a Olympic initiative with all athletes being more financed for the occasion which could have long term returns.
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You might see history happening in women's trap shooting where San Marino might secure its first ever olympic medal.
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Italian shooter winning womens trap shooting with only one failed shot, which is a strong improvement of the previous 4 miss world record! San Marino shooter in a threeman tie for second! Reshooting happening now!
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On August 04 2012 23:31 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 23:25 radiatoren wrote:I hate to restart a horrible debate, but France has placed down an official protest against the british boat. The danish trainer was pretty clear in his comments (roughly translated): "The brits should have been disqualified. I stood down there and saw it: it was a rowing error, he simply fell out of his seat." Further: "So the brits hurry up and take off the seat... I am cycling right behind the british trainer and he is swearing... Then the trainer (red: British) loosened the seat. There are some small holders of which he screws out one to make it look like something is wrong." Because the danish boat won the race they did not keep the promise to the french of making a protest together... source (In danish) T.T french official protest has been refused, they've apparently a second chance. not sure if they'll take it since it's obvious what's going to happen. you gonna to get burn down buddy
On the contrary if an investigation ensues and it comes to light there has been fowl play I and I imagine most Brits would side with the decisions of the judges. Just wish other nations on this board would trust the judges decisions more, they put a heck of a lot more time into deciding these things then we do.
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