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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 30 2014 19:20 GMT
#221
On January 31 2014 04:17 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:12 overt wrote:
I've thought this for like four-five months and I'm not basing it on just this one game or anything but Froggen/xPeke both get too much attention when EU has Alex Ich. I'd take Alex Ich as my mid laner over anyone else from EU period. His champion pool is big, his team fighting is great, he actually plays aggressive in lane (completely contrary to xPeke and even Froggen isn't that aggro in lane). I know people give Alex lots of credit as a strong laner and I could just be fanboying as I watch vods of him all the time but I seriously think he's the best mid laner in EU.


Do you remember actually who was European All-Star midlaner? (:


Just trying to make sure TL votes for the right guy again this year.

Maybe it isn't even that people think Froggen/xPeke are better those two are just more popular, idk.

Xpeke is overrated as fuck because of that backdoor at Katowice. Any mid that doesn't feed will look good when you have soaz and that bot lane. I hope that fnatic's current dominance doesn't trick people into thinking that xpeke should be the all-star mid (At least there won't be any scare this time of wickd actually being all-star over soaz)
Glorious SEA doto
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 30 2014 19:21 GMT
#222
...these RIOT stats are terrible

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED TEAM HAS CONTROLLED LOTS OF OBJECTIVES
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 30 2014 19:22 GMT
#223
On January 31 2014 04:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
...these RIOT stats are terrible

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED TEAM HAS CONTROLLED LOTS OF OBJECTIVES

TIL: Teams that win tend to take more objectives.
Glorious SEA doto
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
January 30 2014 19:22 GMT
#224
Never forget how xpeke get demolished by whitezz.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
January 30 2014 19:23 GMT
#225
On January 31 2014 04:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
...these RIOT stats are terrible

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED TEAM HAS CONTROLLED LOTS OF OBJECTIVES


How is that different than in any other sport?

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED FOOTBALL TEAM SCORES FAR MORE GOALS THAN OPPONENTS
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2014 19:23 GMT
#226
On January 31 2014 04:22 skykh wrote:
Never forget how xpeke get demolished by whitezz.

I wouldn't say xpeke is worst than whitezz in terms of ability, but he got out picked each game so it made xpeke look really bad. whitezz is soaz of mid lane.
liftlift > tsm
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 19:27:44
January 30 2014 19:24 GMT
#227
On January 31 2014 04:20 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:17 overt wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:12 overt wrote:
I've thought this for like four-five months and I'm not basing it on just this one game or anything but Froggen/xPeke both get too much attention when EU has Alex Ich. I'd take Alex Ich as my mid laner over anyone else from EU period. His champion pool is big, his team fighting is great, he actually plays aggressive in lane (completely contrary to xPeke and even Froggen isn't that aggro in lane). I know people give Alex lots of credit as a strong laner and I could just be fanboying as I watch vods of him all the time but I seriously think he's the best mid laner in EU.


Do you remember actually who was European All-Star midlaner? (:


Just trying to make sure TL votes for the right guy again this year.

Maybe it isn't even that people think Froggen/xPeke are better those two are just more popular, idk.

Xpeke is overrated as fuck because of that backdoor at Katowice. Any mid that doesn't feed will look good when you have soaz and that bot lane. I hope that fnatic's current dominance doesn't trick people into thinking that xpeke should be the all-star mid (At least there won't be any scare this time of wickd actually being all-star over soaz)

Meh just the same you can argue that Alex has the way better jungler with Diamond. And the jungler has more influence on how well the mid player looks in his lane obviously.
Imo outside of lane Peke is the strongest EU Ap player, and in lane still good.
Off-season = best season
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 30 2014 19:24 GMT
#228
On January 31 2014 04:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
...these RIOT stats are terrible

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED TEAM HAS CONTROLLED LOTS OF OBJECTIVES

its the same as normal sports stats.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 30 2014 19:25 GMT
#229
On January 31 2014 04:23 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
...these RIOT stats are terrible

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED TEAM HAS CONTROLLED LOTS OF OBJECTIVES


How is that different than in any other sport?

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED FOOTBALL TEAM SCORES FAR MORE GOALS THAN OPPONENTS


This is a totally fair point - but I hoped that with a completely blank slate when it comes to getting statistics from LoL games, they'd do something that wasn't...you know, completely obvious.

Then again I still have the arguement with my Dad about how RBI's are useless in baseball, so maybe I'm just ornery about use of statistics in sports.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 30 2014 19:25 GMT
#230
On January 31 2014 04:20 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:17 overt wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:12 overt wrote:
I've thought this for like four-five months and I'm not basing it on just this one game or anything but Froggen/xPeke both get too much attention when EU has Alex Ich. I'd take Alex Ich as my mid laner over anyone else from EU period. His champion pool is big, his team fighting is great, he actually plays aggressive in lane (completely contrary to xPeke and even Froggen isn't that aggro in lane). I know people give Alex lots of credit as a strong laner and I could just be fanboying as I watch vods of him all the time but I seriously think he's the best mid laner in EU.


Do you remember actually who was European All-Star midlaner? (:


Just trying to make sure TL votes for the right guy again this year.

Maybe it isn't even that people think Froggen/xPeke are better those two are just more popular, idk.

Xpeke is overrated as fuck because of that backdoor at Katowice. Any mid that doesn't feed will look good when you have soaz and that bot lane. I hope that fnatic's current dominance doesn't trick people into thinking that xpeke should be the all-star mid (At least there won't be any scare this time of wickd actually being all-star over soaz)


Yeahhh I don't want to shit talk him too much but peke plays mid lane the way bigfatjiji played mid lane. Sure, peke's team fighting and overall skill is way better than jiji but I hate the way he plays mid. It's like his lane phase is stuck in season 1. Add to it the fact that Cyanide primarily ganks mid while top and bot auto win...

I think xPeke is really good after early game is over. His early game fucking sucks though. Meanwhile you have Alex who looks good at all stages of the game.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 30 2014 19:26 GMT
#231
On January 31 2014 04:24 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
...these RIOT stats are terrible

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED TEAM HAS CONTROLLED LOTS OF OBJECTIVES

its the same as normal sports stats.

They still could improve stats a lot. Like how often do they go for 2v1, which lanes does their jungler gank most early, when and on what lanes do they get first tower etc.
Off-season = best season
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 30 2014 19:26 GMT
#232
Alright Roccat, don't disappoint with the picks.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 30 2014 19:27 GMT
#233
On January 31 2014 04:26 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:24 nojitosunrise wrote:
On January 31 2014 04:21 Amethyst21 wrote:
...these RIOT stats are terrible

THIS JUST IN - UNDEFEATED TEAM HAS CONTROLLED LOTS OF OBJECTIVES

its the same as normal sports stats.

They still could improve stats a lot. Like how often do they go for 2v1, which lanes does their jungler gank most early, when and on what lanes do they get first tower etc.

We all know Spellsy is the true stats overlord.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 19:28:22
January 30 2014 19:27 GMT
#234
Yasuo ban, real?

MANTHEON IS OPEN. YUZZZZ
liftlift > tsm
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
January 30 2014 19:29 GMT
#235
Fanatic banning Kassadin. What is this I don't even... haha
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
January 30 2014 19:32 GMT
#236
On January 31 2014 04:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Yasuo ban, real?

MANTHEON IS OPEN. YUZZZZ

yasuo is NEVER open in eu solo q its probably the most banned champion atm he is just stupid

on a different note is that live patch? if yes the annie over thresh pick is strange
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2014 19:32 GMT
#237
Dunno why teams are picking trundle so early. He's not full proof toplaner...

AND FNATIC PICKS MUNDO INTO TRUNDLE. WUT. PLZ.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 30 2014 19:33 GMT
#238
AWW YISS JANKOS MANTHEON
Glorious SEA doto
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
January 30 2014 19:34 GMT
#239
On January 31 2014 04:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Dunno why teams are picking trundle so early. He's not full proof toplaner...

AND FNATIC PICKS MUNDO INTO TRUNDLE. WUT. PLZ.

Full proof. I'll add that to my list of diamond dozen phrases
Platinum Support GOD
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 30 2014 19:34 GMT
#240
And Joe just hyped Peke for game where he whiffed 75% of shockwaves :D

Celaver still picks only Caitlyn in LCS. If Vander dominates this game, Roccat really have a good shot.
Let's go.
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