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On July 19 2013 06:36 wei2coolman wrote:
God; that wave clear from Zionspartan is disgusting.
wei, meet Renekton.
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On July 19 2013 06:36 Nos- wrote:
I see people have realized that you don't need to tank anything on Elise if she just kills everything first
idk he just needs to be a bigger threat so CST can't stack armour and win I guess so he goes a bit more squishy build.
Also does baron not attack minions anymore? Zyra plant was at half duration.
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Zion building Renekton like a baller, I like it
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On July 19 2013 06:35 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:31 Numy wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 Numy wrote:
Cop has really become one of the best ADC in NA atm. Impressive stuff. whoa whoa, l0l He's not passive like before. I'll give him that. How many good ADC are left in NA? Turtle slumping hard. Dontmashme is a bit meh. Sneaky is pretty good. qtpie is hard to judge because of throws. Double never know which double will arrive on the day. Zuna is basically dig. Maple is iffy on non-Draven/Varus. So really it's Double(On a good day)/Qtpie(#digithrows) and Sneaky as top ADC in NA. I won't mention Double, not become of his resume, but more because comparing CLG/Crs is too different. There's different level of expectation from the ADCs on those two teams. qtpie is a fairer comparison (dig and Crs are very dependent on their solo lanes and their ADC need to arrive to end game relevant) and I don't think Cop is at qtpie's level yet. Sneaky's closer to qtpie (in terms of mechanics, experience, decision making) than Cop is atm.
Well for the current meta I feel Sneaky is by far the best ADC in NA. He's the only one I feel that doesn't demand farm or stalling to be relevant. He's relevant from the start of the game and stays relevant so they never lose any momentum. I actually think Genja has a similar mindset with his strange dorans builds.
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On July 19 2013 06:36 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:36 Nos- wrote:
I see people have realized that you don't need to tank anything on Elise if she just kills everything first We talking about Voy's build? It's pretty standard if you ask me.
I usually see sorc haunting into a sunfire or rylais and other tanky items. Her abilities are pretty stupid with a glass cannon build.
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On July 19 2013 06:37 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:36 wei2coolman wrote:
God; that wave clear from Zionspartan is disgusting. wei, meet Renekton.
with hydra; dat wave clear. there's a reason why i fucking love the item.
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On July 19 2013 06:37 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 19 2013 06:31 Numy wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 Numy wrote:
Cop has really become one of the best ADC in NA atm. Impressive stuff. whoa whoa, l0l He's not passive like before. I'll give him that. How many good ADC are left in NA? Turtle slumping hard. Dontmashme is a bit meh. Sneaky is pretty good. qtpie is hard to judge because of throws. Double never know which double will arrive on the day. Zuna is basically dig. Maple is iffy on non-Draven/Varus. So really it's Double(On a good day)/Qtpie(#digithrows) and Sneaky as top ADC in NA. I won't mention Double, not become of his resume, but more because comparing CLG/Crs is too different. There's different level of expectation from the ADCs on those two teams. qtpie is a fairer comparison (dig and Crs are very dependent on their solo lanes and their ADC need to arrive to end game relevant) and I don't think Cop is at qtpie's level yet. Sneaky's closer to qtpie (in terms of mechanics, experience, decision making) than Cop is atm. Well for the current meta I feel Sneaky is by far the best ADC in NA. He's the only one I feel that doesn't demand farm or stalling to be relevant. He's relevant from the start of the game and stays relevant so they never lose any momentum. I actually think Genja has a similar mindset with his strange dorans builds.
mandatory mention of Yango and his 3rd position ADCs.
It's what yellowpete should have been but hasn't fulfilled.
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On July 19 2013 06:35 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:33 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:24 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:18 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:15 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:11 Serelitz wrote:
I don't know how to coloured fonts!
CRS blue side ----- CST red side
BANS:
Riven ----- Nunu
Thresh ----- Shen
?no 3rd ban? ----- Twisted Fate
PICKS:
Elise ------- Gragas/Zyra
Twitch/Jayce ------- Renekton/Corki
Jarvan IV/Fiddlesticks ------- Lux Lot of wards early from Curse, trying to bait lvl 1 at their own red. Both junglers starting @ bottom buff (gragas blue j4 red). No laneswaps, Gragas going golems but Saint going straight top but standing on top of a ward. Junglers farming, ~5:00 Gragas lanetaxes bot pretty hard after staying in the area with no result. Zion pushed up but warded well, Voy with the pink in inventory. Not much happening. Gragas ganks bot at 10 mins, mashme gets FB. Saint tries to lanegank top but fails cos of Cataclysm bug + slice and dice mid cast as Jatt guiltily explains. Edward gets caught trying to hang around bot turret, Daydreamin picks up the kill and bot turret goes down. Zion constantly getting Golems while laning vs Voy turns on him as Saint ganks w/ Slice and Dice down, Top turret down already from Voy pressure and Saint picks up the assist. 1k gold and 1 kill lead for CST so far, not that much happening yet. Saint ganks bot and Cop plays really well, barely getting the kill on Daydreamin. Edward survives at 1%, CRS picks up bot turret. Did I miss dragon somewhere? It's not on the map anymore. 4v4 mid standoff, Daydreamin gets caught w/o flash and Cop flashes in for the solo kill, CST counterengage with gragas cask but good cataclysm makes it 2 for 1 for Curse, they pick up middle turret as well. Meanwhile top Voy barely escapes Zionspartan 1v1 Dragon fight nearly breaks out but nobody engages, CRS picks up dragon. Now 1.5k gold lead for CRS and 2 turrets as well. Curse trying really hard to pick off people 1v1 and camp in brushes but CST doesn't overextend.
Not the most boring game but action is pretty interspersed tbh. Curse picks up uncontested dragon and sieges bot inner turret with 4 people, Nyjacky solo pushing mid.
Renekton still way top so CST can't contest the turret and they give it up.
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On July 19 2013 06:38 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:36 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 19 2013 06:36 Nos- wrote:
I see people have realized that you don't need to tank anything on Elise if she just kills everything first We talking about Voy's build? It's pretty standard if you ask me. I usually see sorc haunting into a sunfire or rylais and other tanky items. Her abilities are pretty stupid with a glass cannon build.
Rylai's for the slow utility imo. Sunfire Elise is dumb imo.
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On July 19 2013 06:39 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:37 Numy wrote:On July 19 2013 06:35 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 19 2013 06:31 Numy wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 Numy wrote:
Cop has really become one of the best ADC in NA atm. Impressive stuff. whoa whoa, l0l He's not passive like before. I'll give him that. How many good ADC are left in NA? Turtle slumping hard. Dontmashme is a bit meh. Sneaky is pretty good. qtpie is hard to judge because of throws. Double never know which double will arrive on the day. Zuna is basically dig. Maple is iffy on non-Draven/Varus. So really it's Double(On a good day)/Qtpie(#digithrows) and Sneaky as top ADC in NA. I won't mention Double, not become of his resume, but more because comparing CLG/Crs is too different. There's different level of expectation from the ADCs on those two teams. qtpie is a fairer comparison (dig and Crs are very dependent on their solo lanes and their ADC need to arrive to end game relevant) and I don't think Cop is at qtpie's level yet. Sneaky's closer to qtpie (in terms of mechanics, experience, decision making) than Cop is atm. Well for the current meta I feel Sneaky is by far the best ADC in NA. He's the only one I feel that doesn't demand farm or stalling to be relevant. He's relevant from the start of the game and stays relevant so they never lose any momentum. I actually think Genja has a similar mindset with his strange dorans builds. mandatory mention of Yango and his 3rd position ADCs. It's what yellowpete should have been but hasn't fulfilled.
The problem is froggen takes positions 1-3. Everyone else is relegated to 4th and 5th position.
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Nintendude doing work with his barrels
Edit: Nien elise build only elise build
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I feel like sneaky has an easier time being relevant early because of C9's propension to grab early objectives which increase his gold by a significant amount and allow nice item timings for him
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This Curse damage is insane.
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Saint yet again ults almost dead champ.
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On July 19 2013 06:39 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 06:35 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:33 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:29 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:24 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:18 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:15 Serelitz wrote:On July 19 2013 06:11 Serelitz wrote:
I don't know how to coloured fonts!
CRS blue side ----- CST red side
BANS:
Riven ----- Nunu
Thresh ----- Shen
?no 3rd ban? ----- Twisted Fate
PICKS:
Elise ------- Gragas/Zyra
Twitch/Jayce ------- Renekton/Corki
Jarvan IV/Fiddlesticks ------- Lux Lot of wards early from Curse, trying to bait lvl 1 at their own red. Both junglers starting @ bottom buff (gragas blue j4 red). No laneswaps, Gragas going golems but Saint going straight top but standing on top of a ward. Junglers farming, ~5:00 Gragas lanetaxes bot pretty hard after staying in the area with no result. Zion pushed up but warded well, Voy with the pink in inventory. Not much happening. Gragas ganks bot at 10 mins, mashme gets FB. Saint tries to lanegank top but fails cos of Cataclysm bug + slice and dice mid cast as Jatt guiltily explains. Edward gets caught trying to hang around bot turret, Daydreamin picks up the kill and bot turret goes down. Zion constantly getting Golems while laning vs Voy turns on him as Saint ganks w/ Slice and Dice down, Top turret down already from Voy pressure and Saint picks up the assist. 1k gold and 1 kill lead for CST so far, not that much happening yet. Saint ganks bot and Cop plays really well, barely getting the kill on Daydreamin. Edward survives at 1%, CRS picks up bot turret. Did I miss dragon somewhere? It's not on the map anymore. 4v4 mid standoff, Daydreamin gets caught w/o flash and Cop flashes in for the solo kill, CST counterengage with gragas cask but good cataclysm makes it 2 for 1 for Curse, they pick up middle turret as well. Meanwhile top Voy barely escapes Zionspartan 1v1 Dragon fight nearly breaks out but nobody engages, CRS picks up dragon. Now 1.5k gold lead for CRS and 2 turrets as well. Curse trying really hard to pick off people 1v1 and camp in brushes but CST doesn't overextend. Not the most boring game but action is pretty interspersed tbh. Curse picks up uncontested dragon and sieges bot inner turret with 4 people, Nyjacky solo pushing mid. Renekton still way top so CST can't contest the turret and they give it up.
Jacky gets caught, flashes under turret where Lux combo finishes him off, merc treads not enough.
CRS engages hard 4v5 on Zion who doesn't have that many tanky items, he blows up and CST backs off, CRS sieging mid now.
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Saint being saint again.D
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On July 19 2013 06:41 Slaughter wrote:
Saint yet again ults almost dead champ.
"LOOK GUIZ. I'M BEING HELPFUL!"
Rofl; no CDR lux purty good.
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On July 19 2013 06:40 Anakko wrote:
I feel like sneaky has an easier time being relevant early because of C9's propension to grab early objectives which increase his gold by a significant amount and allow nice item timings for him
It's also what he plays. Don't think I've ever seen Sneaky play Cait?
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Well zion, that's what you get for not building hp
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On July 19 2013 06:41 Slaughter wrote:
Saint yet again ults almost dead champ.
Worth it™
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EPT
