Would be a real coup for Blaze to take this. It's really a battle of the of if Blaze's solos or Ozone's AD will carry harder. Safe money is on blaze for sure.
In response to Neo from previous thread: I don't mean that in a negative way. I feel that the midsection of their faces are very similar, but obviously her face has feminine qualities while Flash has godlike qualities.
It's kinda like how I have this one friend, and when I see his sister I largely see just a girl version of him.
Don't know how many of you guys watched the Imp interview but his thoughts on Doublelift's 21/0/9 mastery as Vayne are a very interesting statement about how NA botlanes play
On June 15 2013 05:52 Nos- wrote: Don't know how many of you guys watched the Imp interview but his thoughts on Doublelift's 21/0/9 mastery as Vayne are a very interesting statement about how NA botlanes play
can you provide a link to this interview? thanks in advance!
On June 15 2013 05:52 Nos- wrote: Don't know how many of you guys watched the Imp interview but his thoughts on Doublelift's 21/0/9 mastery as Vayne are a very interesting statement about how NA botlanes play
can you provide a link to this interview? thanks in advance!
On June 15 2013 05:52 Nos- wrote: Don't know how many of you guys watched the Imp interview but his thoughts on Doublelift's 21/0/9 mastery as Vayne are a very interesting statement about how NA botlanes play
Can somebody add to the right bar of TL list of streams? I can't watch directly I don't know why. UPD. Fuf can't explain, but I can watch it through http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/OGN-LoL this link.
I swear I had twitch muted, and the OGN stream alerted me of the final's impending start by blaring KPOP anyway. Glorious, glorious KPOP, the emissary of e-Sports.
Dat ambition line "i'll show him some class so he'll forever stay a fan". DEM FIGHT WORDS.
On June 15 2013 17:31 PallasAthena wrote: Can we like ban all the fresh scrubs calling this corny/awkward/cringe/etc.
Seriously I sometimes wonder if any of these fucking kids even know what Broodwar is. Fuck I'm mad.
Don't know if you can compare tbh. BW wayyyyy more history; This is what? like LoLs 2nd year in Korea? It just feels very forced and awkward. Also; no booth girls to stare at to avoid the awkwardness.
again an example of why I don't know why people think that koreans are esports robots with no personality in both sc2 and League, these guys been trash talking since 1998.
On June 15 2013 17:34 HazMat wrote: Can someone give me a quick rundown of the Ozone team? I know nothing about them. What I should look out for etc.
MVP Ozone, a team that was famous for their strong laning phase and monstrous fighting capacity (whether it is small scale, or large), but lacked high class late game management ability. They are most famous for having perhaps the strongest bottom lane in Korea right now.
Homme: A top-laner that was incredibly mediocre apart from playing tanks such as Renekton, but personally asked his teammates about which champions he should practice in order to adapt to the metagame in order to not let his team down, and reaped the benefits this season with good team fighting presence with champions such as Kennen. However, his laning phase remains a weakness. Dandy: An incredibly balanced jungler whose mastery with Jarvan IV is quite high. Probably one of the best junglers in the scene behind the most frequently lauded KaKAO and inSec. Look for him to hold the key when it comes to helping out his team during the early game. Dade: One of the most famous players in Korean solo-que during his days as an amateur player, especially due to his mastery of Twisted Fate. He is a surprisingly strong laner, but has heavy respect for Ambition, a player who is often regarded as the superior version of himself. imp: The hottest AD carry in Korea right now. Mechanically crisp, and looks to make plays as an AD carry. His teammates often choose their picks centering around this player, and when things get rolling there's simply no stopping this beast. His Vayne play is his forte, but his mastery of AD carries are wide and varied. Mata: Compared to MadLife in his ability to make plays during the team fighting phase, with his Zyra pick being heavily respected.
On June 15 2013 17:44 Fionn wrote: And all those people PAID to be there. They could easily draw 40,000 if they did a beach final.
How large is this venue? Eyeballing it, looks like a basketball arena or so sized place, so like 20k? Maybe more because so much floor seating, up to 24-25k?
On June 15 2013 17:44 Fionn wrote: And all those people PAID to be there. They could easily draw 40,000 if they did a beach final.
How large is this venue? Eyeballing it, looks like a basketball arena or so sized place, so like 20k? Maybe more because so much floor seating, up to 24-25k?
10,000.
I've been told the summer final will be a much bigger place/stadium.
On June 15 2013 18:09 caelym wrote: This game is very reminiscent of the SKT 2 semifinals where Faker played superb but the rest of his team just fell apart.
I really think it was the difference between Dandy and Helios that made the difference here. Hoon recently mentioned that his choices for the best junglers in Korea were inSec, KaKAO, and Dandy. After his performances, I must say I agree.
On June 15 2013 18:09 caelym wrote: This game is very reminiscent of the SKT 2 semifinals where Faker played superb but the rest of his team just fell apart.
I really think it was the difference between Dandy and Helios that made the difference here. Hoon recently mentioned that his choices for the best junglers in Korea were inSec, KaKAO, and Dandy. After his performances, I must say I agree.
On June 15 2013 18:15 Fionn wrote: I'm still kinda stunned. It's like Nestea took over Homme's body and destroyed Flame.
I think it was the two early ganks that worked in favor of MVP, while the gank from Blaze didn't pan out as well that lead to the whole homme shitting on flame.
Also, if NA or Europe don't step into some sort of Hyperbolic Time Chamber in the next three months, I see no way they can touch Korea. Even China and SEA probably won't be able to touch Korea.
The difference from watching NA Super Week and that game makes my head hurt. Ozone looked godly. Fuck. Korea has too many amazing teams for only three spots.
On June 15 2013 18:10 wei2coolman wrote: "Barring a dig level throw i think mvp's got this game."- Scarra. even scarra acknowledging the strength of dig level throws.
Also lustboy and cpt jack shouldn't of tried to 2v2 mvp. Even with Cait+janna they couldn't even win lane; which is silly.
I'm still kinda shocked that they failed to win lane against a vayne even early on. Part of it is cpt jack seemed to be lacking a bit with cait. He was missing CS, and not playing as aggressively as I think he should've.
On June 15 2013 18:15 Fionn wrote: I'm still kinda stunned. It's like Nestea took over Homme's body and destroyed Flame.
They've underestimated Homme way too much with the spells that Diana took, and the itemizations that obviously payed no respect to Homme as a professional player. He wouldn't have done the same against the likes of Shy, or Expession. Homme may not be an top-tier player, but with the assistance of a superb jungler like Dandy, is more than capable of making Flame look silly.
On June 15 2013 18:10 wei2coolman wrote: "Barring a dig level throw i think mvp's got this game."- Scarra. even scarra acknowledging the strength of dig level throws.
Also lustboy and cpt jack shouldn't of tried to 2v2 mvp. Even with Cait+janna they couldn't even win lane; which is silly.
I'm still kinda shocked that they failed to win lane against a vayne even early on. Part of it is cpt jack seemed to be lacking a bit with cait. He was missing CS, and not playing as aggressively as I think he should've.
I never thought Capt Jack was any every good, even during Season 2 when there was huge ass hype train when Blaze was one of the best early on in Korea.
A lot of bad misplay by Capt Jack in teamfights, and in combo with really poor lane control really allowed imp to do loads of dps later on in that game. But major part of MVP's win was mostly flame getting shut down hard
After Dandy help Homme get firstblood on Flame, he stayed top for several minutes to snowball the lane. Jack and Lustboy didn't lose the lane 2v2 (I think Jack even had a CS lead).
On June 15 2013 18:20 Lylat wrote: What happened to Homme ? He used to be soooo bad
he opened the greedy Zac start (no ward 2 rejuv beads) and got a good gank from Dandy for first blood. No disrespect to Homme but it's not like he magma chamber'd Flame or anything.
On June 15 2013 18:20 Lylat wrote: What happened to Homme ? He used to be soooo bad
he opened the greedy Zac start (no ward 2 rejuv beads) and got a good gank from Dandy for first blood. No disrespect to Homme but it's not like he magma chamber'd Flame or anything.
I'm not talking about this game specifically but in the group stage he was really heavy for his team and since the playoffs he stepped up his game a lot
No I don't want to see Cpt Jack play Ezreal. Stick to playing long ranged AD carries that are good for taking down towers, that's what he's good for. After watching PraY wreck faces with his Ezreal in NLB Spring Season finals, I don't think Cpt Jack will compare favourably at all.
On June 15 2013 18:41 AsnSensation wrote: if cpt jack didn't go tear first he would have actually killed imp in that little 2v2 earlier... now hes just completely fucked
On June 15 2013 18:49 iLoveKT wrote: Can someone tell me why OGN Finals has less viewers then a regular LCS NA/EU day? (excluding TV ofcourse)
Not in prime time for NA or EU. Not promoted in the game client on NA & EU servers. Not promoted on lolesports.com.
And its Korea and not NA/EU. Casual watchers just care much less about Korea. Most Korean viewers would not watch EU/NA either, even if the level of play was higher there (yeah funny thought, but still).
I think mvp ozone fuels off being the underdog, the less favoured they are the better. So next season when they become a favourite they will sadly get owned.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
On June 15 2013 19:11 Fionn wrote: I don't see how Blaze can win three in a row.
SoulKey !!!
Totally different game, though. You can't cheese and win a game in 3 minutes in League.
No; but you can throw 3 games in a row.
On June 15 2013 19:15 Letmelose wrote: One of those rare occasions where Ambition looks inferior compared to his mid-lane counter-part. Brain. Cannot. Compute.
Sidelanes strength made Dade's roam more successful. Ambition himself doing okay.
On June 15 2013 19:15 Letmelose wrote: One of those rare occasions where Ambition looks inferior compared to his mid-lane counter-part. Brain. Cannot. Compute.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
Locodoco did. A guy who plays League of Legends. In Korea. In OGN.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
2/10 troll.
Made me check your post history.
baited and outsmarted
siren
I have supported you and bought passes for the leagues since the beginning.
Getting rid of naniwa for having him play a pointless match? I feel that I'm going to vote with my money since my voice probably won't be heard.
I don't play starcraft, one or two. Never have. I am a rare breed in that I enjoy this game for the pure spectator aspect of it. At the beginning I had no idea what a drone was, now I know what certain builds are. I sit down and watch these games at 4am with a snack and a drink. I sometimes make it late to work or class or never show up at all because of this.
Am I a fan of naniwa? As a player? No. I don't think he's that amazing (yet?). Am I a fan of naniwa the individual? Damn RIGHT SON. This guy bleeds starcraft. He seems like he would be willing to give up anything and everything to be the best. That's an admirable quality that a lot of people are afraid to attempt for pure fear of failure. I would even venture to say that Naniwa made me take this whole concept of "eports" thing seriously. He reminds me so much of old school football players who always got in trouble for breaking rules but they always won the trophy.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
I have supported you and bought passes for the leagues since the beginning.
Getting rid of naniwa for having him play a pointless match? I feel that I'm going to vote with my money since my voice probably won't be heard.
I don't play starcraft, one or two. Never have. I am a rare breed in that I enjoy this game for the pure spectator aspect of it. At the beginning I had no idea what a drone was, now I know what certain builds are. I sit down and watch these games at 4am with a snack and a drink. I sometimes make it late to work or class or never show up at all because of this.
Am I a fan of naniwa? As a player? No. I don't think he's that amazing (yet?). Am I a fan of naniwa the individual? Damn RIGHT SON. This guy bleeds starcraft. He seems like he would be willing to give up anything and everything to be the best. That's an admirable quality that a lot of people are afraid to attempt for pure fear of failure. I would even venture to say that Naniwa made me take this whole concept of "eports" thing seriously. He reminds me so much of old school football players who always got in trouble for breaking rules but they always won the trophy.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
Locodoco did. A guy who plays League of Legends. In Korea. In OGN.
yaaaaaaa
Really? Where's your source? Because he predicted a 3:1 victory in favour of Blaze in his Inven interview.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
2/10 troll.
Made me check your post history.
baited and outsmarted
siren
I have supported you and bought passes for the leagues since the beginning.
Getting rid of naniwa for having him play a pointless match? I feel that I'm going to vote with my money since my voice probably won't be heard.
I don't play starcraft, one or two. Never have. I am a rare breed in that I enjoy this game for the pure spectator aspect of it. At the beginning I had no idea what a drone was, now I know what certain builds are. I sit down and watch these games at 4am with a snack and a drink. I sometimes make it late to work or class or never show up at all because of this.
Am I a fan of naniwa? As a player? No. I don't think he's that amazing (yet?). Am I a fan of naniwa the individual? Damn RIGHT SON. This guy bleeds starcraft. He seems like he would be willing to give up anything and everything to be the best. That's an admirable quality that a lot of people are afraid to attempt for pure fear of failure. I would even venture to say that Naniwa made me take this whole concept of "eports" thing seriously. He reminds me so much of old school football players who always got in trouble for breaking rules but they always won the trophy.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
Locodoco did. A guy who plays League of Legends. In Korea. In OGN.
yaaaaaaa
Really? Where's your source? Because he predicted a 3:1 victory in favour of Blaze in his Inven interview.
Doa (or was it Monte?) mentioned talking to Locodoco before match, and said that after scrimming both Blaze and Ozone, that he felt Ozone had a higher chance of winning.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
Locodoco said that Ozone is a stronger team :3
I wasn't aware of that. Where did he say that?
They said Shield and other teams had scrimmed/practiced with both. Loco said he and the other teams agreed Ozone looked stronger.
Which is something you can't really cover as a writer, seeing as we have no fucking clue what either team is doing in scrims.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
Locodoco did. A guy who plays League of Legends. In Korea. In OGN.
yaaaaaaa
Really? Where's your source? Because he predicted a 3:1 victory in favour of Blaze in his Inven interview.
Doa (or was it Monte?) mentioned talking to Locodoco before match, and said that after scrimming both Blaze and Ozone, that he felt Ozone had a higher chance of winning.
Shows you how fast opinions change. It's not just us fans who are fickle as hell.
On June 15 2013 19:13 PallasAthena wrote: I always love reading Fionn's predictions for esports tournaments. I sometimes wonder if he actually plays vidya gamez
Let me ask you something first. Who actually predicted MVP Ozone to win?
Locodoco said that Ozone is a stronger team :3
I wasn't aware of that. Where did he say that?
Even if he did, it doesn't matter that ONE guy who has first hand experience scrimming both teams predicted MVP.
99% of reddit, TL and Inven predicted Blaze, and it's not over yet so y'all need to calm your titties, BLAZE COMEBACK TIME
"awesome games". yes they are, especially if you're an Ozone fan.
Ozone's Homme, the oldest Korean pro at 29 years of age, has been considered the weak link of Ozone the whole season. One of the reasons why Ozone was never favored to win in the playoffs is because no one believed Homme could hold his own. Stepping up his play, Homme has been able to play the best League of his career, but he'll still be in a gigantic disadvantage against Flame. It would be almost suicide to let Homme face Flame one-on-one, so expect Imp and Mata - in my opinion the best bot lane currently in the world - to try and 2v1 Flame, hoping that they can shut him down in the most successful way possible. If they can shut down Flame, they can win, but as we've seen all season, it's become almost impossible to ban out and slow down Flame's farm, mechanics and initiating. Shy mentioned that he never beats Flame in practice one-on-one and that Flame is currently the best duelist in Korea and probably the world.
Oh fionn. Now I know why you're so mad at homme. You made this prediction... O.o
Flame actually needs to stop playing champions that are susceptable to gangs. Dandy has way too much presence during the early game, and Helios' ability to do successful counter-ganking isn't the greatest. If he sticks to his original plans, his pride will destroy any chance of Blaze making a comeback because there's simply no way Cpt Jack outlanes imp.
On June 15 2013 19:29 JSH wrote: someone needs to post that sick dade vs ambition play in the jungle Ambition got outplayed so hard
For me, that play was so obvious. Don't know why Ambition did not anticipate it. Also, the golden rule in LOL is if you are very low, just back and let your team mate chase. There are countless of time people just turn around kill you and walk away -_-.
On June 15 2013 19:31 Ryuu314 wrote: I just tuned in so is Ozone up 2-0?
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
I actually think it's one of his better champions. Not that it compares in any shape or form with imp's Vayne.
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
I actually think it's one of his better champions. Not that it compares in any shape or form with imp's Vayne.
I've never been impressed with Capt Jack's play, especially in 2v2 lane situation. That's why they were one of the pioneers of the usage of 2v1 lanes early on in Season 2; because it covered up how weak capt jack was in lane.; if Cpt and Lustboy try to play this out 2v2 they're just going to get stomped in lane.
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
Imp should have gotten Firefighter Tristana for style points
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
Imp should have gotten Firefighter Tristana for style points
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
I actually think it's one of his better champions. Not that it compares in any shape or form with imp's Vayne.
I've never been impressed with Capt Jack's play, especially in 2v2 lane situation. That's why they were one of the pioneers of the usage of 2v1 lanes early on in Season 2; because it covered up how weak capt jack was in lane.; if Cpt and Lustboy try to play this out 2v2 they're just going to get stomped in lane.
It's leagues above his mastery with Ezreal at least. I swear Ambition plays a better Ezreal than Cpt Jack. It's true that Cpt Jack is a mediocre AD carry, but to be completely fair on Cpt Jack, there's not a lot of AD carries that come off looking good laning against imp.
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
I actually think it's one of his better champions. Not that it compares in any shape or form with imp's Vayne.
I've never been impressed with Capt Jack's play, especially in 2v2 lane situation. That's why they were one of the pioneers of the usage of 2v1 lanes early on in Season 2; because it covered up how weak capt jack was in lane.; if Cpt and Lustboy try to play this out 2v2 they're just going to get stomped in lane.
It's leagues above his mastery with Ezreal at least. I swear Ambition plays a better Ezreal than Cpt Jack. It's true that Cpt Jack is a mediocre AD carry, but to be completely fair on Cpt Jack, there's not a lot of AD carries that come off looking good laning against imp.
In game 2, the most obvious transgression was Imp grabbing double kill, and cpt. Jack gets 1 kill. He goes into lane with ToG, and tries to harass out imp; when imp was like a vamp scepter up on Jack.
There were also teamfighting issues with Cpt. Jack as well in the game. It wasn't just lane issue, he misplayed a lot of the teamfighting.
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
I actually think it's one of his better champions. Not that it compares in any shape or form with imp's Vayne.
I've never been impressed with Capt Jack's play, especially in 2v2 lane situation. That's why they were one of the pioneers of the usage of 2v1 lanes early on in Season 2; because it covered up how weak capt jack was in lane.; if Cpt and Lustboy try to play this out 2v2 they're just going to get stomped in lane.
It's leagues above his mastery with Ezreal at least. I swear Ambition plays a better Ezreal than Cpt Jack. It's true that Cpt Jack is a mediocre AD carry, but to be completely fair on Cpt Jack, there's not a lot of AD carries that come off looking good laning against imp.
In game 2, the most obvious transgression was Imp grabbing double kill, and cpt. Jack gets 1 kill. He goes into lane with ToG, and tries to harass out imp; when imp was like a vamp scepter up on Jack.
There were also teamfighting issues with Cpt. Jack as well in the game. It wasn't just lane issue, he misplayed a lot of the teamfighting.
I'm talking about his Vayne. Just watch, it's not a joke.
On June 15 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahaha Capt Jack on Vayne. Please play Cait Imp; and show cpt jack how to destroy vayne in lane with cait.
I actually think it's one of his better champions. Not that it compares in any shape or form with imp's Vayne.
I've never been impressed with Capt Jack's play, especially in 2v2 lane situation. That's why they were one of the pioneers of the usage of 2v1 lanes early on in Season 2; because it covered up how weak capt jack was in lane.; if Cpt and Lustboy try to play this out 2v2 they're just going to get stomped in lane.
It's leagues above his mastery with Ezreal at least. I swear Ambition plays a better Ezreal than Cpt Jack. It's true that Cpt Jack is a mediocre AD carry, but to be completely fair on Cpt Jack, there's not a lot of AD carries that come off looking good laning against imp.
In game 2, the most obvious transgression was Imp grabbing double kill, and cpt. Jack gets 1 kill. He goes into lane with ToG, and tries to harass out imp; when imp was like a vamp scepter up on Jack.
There were also teamfighting issues with Cpt. Jack as well in the game. It wasn't just lane issue, he misplayed a lot of the teamfighting.
I'm talking about his Vayne. Just watch, it's not a joke.
Good champion mechanics; doesn't make up for really bad game decisions. (inb4 how am i doublelift fan?)
correct me If I'm wrong but unless ozone derps and drops out in groupstages in ogn summer, they are already pretty much qualified for worlds with the seeding points they get from this title right?
Impin may have been easy but dade and mata were the MVPs such godlike near flawless play by both. Dandy and homme were sick as well especially homme 29 year old champion.
Damn let's hope that Both Cj Entus teams won't become the successor of the kong line and lose every finals from now on. (2 lost OGN finals back to back gotta be tough)
What a Cinderella story for Homme. From being widely considered one of the more mediocre toplaners in Korea and contemplating retirement to playing amazing against Flame and becoming the OGN Champions
Korean victory mentality so humble. If I was the winner of something big like this, I would scream until my Voice passed out, hugging people and stuff. They just seem so calm, shedding a tear (probably because of the mental pressure release; god knows what would happen to them if they placed 2nd "only") and then saying some words.
On June 15 2013 20:09 little fancy wrote: Korean victory mentality so humble. If I was the winner of something big like this, I would scream until my Voice passed out, hugging people and stuff. They just seem so calm, shedding a tear (probably because of the mental pressure release; god knows what would happen to them if they placed 2nd "only") and then saying some words.
If it had been 3-2, they probably would have been like that. It was a very dominate performance that they knew they had won 5~10 minutes before the game ended.
On June 15 2013 20:09 little fancy wrote: Korean victory mentality so humble. If I was the winner of something big like this, I would scream until my Voice passed out, hugging people and stuff. They just seem so calm, shedding a tear (probably because of the mental pressure release; god knows what would happen to them if they placed 2nd "only") and then saying some words.
*insert FBH video* Chobra tearing up too... All these feeelz.
Now that Blaze have lost, I'm happy for Ozone's win. They played incredible. Blaze came in too cocky and were flat out of the gate. They'll need to get better if they want to win summer with an improved Sword, Frost, Ozone, SKT #2, KTB...Shit, Korea's stacked.
It's okay. This is good for Flame. He must bleed before winning worlds. 4th and 2nd place put them in a good place for taking the Korea spot if they can win summer.
MonteCristo @ggCMonteCristo 1m OGN Champions will be back in a couple weeks. @ggdoa and I cast qualifiers on Monday. Champions will have 16 teams in Summer!
Good luck with your post-match analysis writers of Team Liquid. I really did not expect these kind of games in the slightest, and will need to re-evaluate a lot of things in my head.
On June 15 2013 20:28 Letmelose wrote: Good luck with your post-match analysis writers of Team Liquid. I really did not expect these kind of games in the slightest, and will need to re-evaluate a lot of things in my head.
Here's the quick abstract of the post-match analysis.
On June 15 2013 20:28 Letmelose wrote: Good luck with your post-match analysis writers of Team Liquid. I really did not expect these kind of games in the slightest, and will need to re-evaluate a lot of things in my head.
Here's the quick abstract of the post-match analysis.
Impin ain't easy, Zed still broken in 3.7, win lane win game
My brain still cannot comprehend how utterly hopeless Ambition looked against Dade. The Khazix-Zed match-up is favoured towards Zed, but Ambition never got crushed this badly against someone's Zed before in my memory, and he faced a lot of good Zed players before.
I can even understand Homme looking better off than Flame. But a helpless Ambition is something I really need time and a hell of a lot of thinking to wrap my head around.
If someone told me MVP Ozone was going to win the season with a record of 9-2 in the playoffs and dade, the guy from the old fucking CJ Entus with Longpanda, was going to be MVP, I would have told you to stop being the MVP coach.
for me now lol feels like sc:bw with korea (and china) being many levels above the west.
this bo5 really felt like one of the old starleague finals in 2008. so high quality production, huge audience, SOOOOO high quality games. im asking myself why should i ever watch na/eu lcs again?
Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
On June 15 2013 21:15 AsnSensation wrote: is it true that Maknoon & KT A lost to Garimto's team haha? saw someone post it in twitch chat but don't know if it's true
They lost to a team known as GOL. Dunno if Garimto is involved with the team in any way.
They fell off so early in qualifiers they might not even be able to play in NLB.
On June 15 2013 21:13 Fionn wrote: Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
oh thank you
lol is growing so fast in korea, i think they could really improve the size to like 16 teams, considering that so many sponsors have 2 teams
On June 15 2013 21:13 Fionn wrote: Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
oh thank you
lol is growing so fast in korea, i think they could really improve the size to like 16 teams, considering that so many sponsors have 2 teams
They are. There's 8 teams allready qualified, so the qualification tourney is for the other 8 spots.
On June 15 2013 21:13 Fionn wrote: Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
oh thank you
lol is growing so fast in korea, i think they could really improve the size to like 16 teams, considering that so many sponsors have 2 teams
yeh, i wouldn't be surprised if we go back to the good old osl system of 4 groups round robin rather than the 2 groups round robin system we've been seeing the past two seasons.
what would be even more awesome would be some sort of group selection thing, but ogn are so pressed for time i don't think they'd be able to do it.
I can't help but feel that MVP had a bit of an advantage as the underdogs. Blaze's strategy had simply been too successful for them to change it in the final. You don't simply uproot a game plan that has taken you to 13 consecutive wins. MVP on the other hand had the opportunity to heavily scrutinize Blaze's strategy, and devise any number of counter-strategies. It was always going to be hard for Blaze to second-guess what MVP's counter-strategy might be, and having just three games in an emotionally-charged setting to adapt to their counter is obviously less than ideal.
Of course, it could just be that MVP timed their run perfectly and were in peak, soul-crushing form by the final. That was some of the most flawless play I've ever seen.
On June 16 2013 02:22 Sufficiency wrote: I watched one game then fell asleep.... I guess that was the right decision by my body looking at the final score...
I guess mabye the take away here is we should have seen this coming? we all thought beating KTB and Judgement day was a fluke, while Blaze went thru the (comparatively) easy side of the bracket.
On June 16 2013 01:46 baekgom84 wrote: I can't help but feel that MVP had a bit of an advantage as the underdogs. Blaze's strategy had simply been too successful for them to change it in the final. You don't simply uproot a game plan that has taken you to 13 consecutive wins. MVP on the other hand had the opportunity to heavily scrutinize Blaze's strategy, and devise any number of counter-strategies. It was always going to be hard for Blaze to second-guess what MVP's counter-strategy might be, and having just three games in an emotionally-charged setting to adapt to their counter is obviously less than ideal.
Of course, it could just be that MVP timed their run perfectly and were in peak, soul-crushing form by the final. That was some of the most flawless play I've ever seen.
I agree though I think it's a combination of both. When you're up against the supposed best team (in the world IMO), you step that shit up. At the same time, Blaze definitely had a target sign on them from their run.
At the same time it as hard to say where Blaze played badly (especially from a low Gold perspective). It simply looked like MvP had the game plan to counter Blaze's style every single game and Blaze never really came up with Plan B. Blaze kept looking to make space for their solo's to farm while keeping their duo "safe" and Dandy + Dade NEVER allowed it.
Flame and Helio both choked hard today Ambition played solid for the first 2 games but got demoralized and played like shit game 3 Cpt Jack and Lustboy probably had the series of their lifes against Frost, actually winning lane every game, but that was against Hermes and a derping Madlife. Imp and Mata played like gods today and were absolutely on point.
On June 15 2013 21:13 Fionn wrote: Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
i have a question for you guys:Is the venue for this event the same as the wcs finals for sc2? Because they seem very simmilar.Also gg for MVP.Very good games today.
On June 16 2013 11:22 theking1 wrote: i have a question for you guys:Is the venue for this event the same as the wcs finals for sc2? Because they seem very simmilar.Also gg for MVP.Very good games today.
On June 15 2013 21:13 Fionn wrote: Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
Fionn where do you find all of this information?
all the information is posted on the TL forum. The offline qualifier info post is in the general LoL thread.
On June 16 2013 11:22 theking1 wrote: i have a question for you guys:Is the venue for this event the same as the wcs finals for sc2? Because they seem very simmilar.Also gg for MVP.Very good games today.
The SC2 hall was a lot smaller than the LoL hall. They had one of the biggest halls in Kintex.
On June 15 2013 21:13 Fionn wrote: Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
Fionn where do you find all of this information?
all the information is posted on the TL forum. The offline qualifier info post is in the general LoL thread.
On June 16 2013 11:22 theking1 wrote: i have a question for you guys:Is the venue for this event the same as the wcs finals for sc2? Because they seem very simmilar.Also gg for MVP.Very good games today.
The SC2 hall was a lot smaller than the LoL hall. They had one of the biggest halls in Kintex.
First comments I read after the event and it resorts right to this again about the crowd. Shesh.
On June 15 2013 21:13 Fionn wrote: Remember, the tournament continues in only two days with sixteen teams battling for eight spots in the summer tournament.
The teams included are both LG-IM squads, Xenics Blast and Storm, the return of Woong with his new amateur team, the former ahq, Longpanda's new team, the amazing players at the CTUniversity team, and a lot of other unknowns who all want to be the first Royal Roaders. With how many solo queue superstars there are out there like Faker, we'll be seeing a lot of new blood in the next week. Should be exciting.
Fionn where do you find all of this information?
all the information is posted on the TL forum. The offline qualifier info post is in the general LoL thread.
On June 16 2013 11:22 theking1 wrote: i have a question for you guys:Is the venue for this event the same as the wcs finals for sc2? Because they seem very simmilar.Also gg for MVP.Very good games today.
The SC2 hall was a lot smaller than the LoL hall. They had one of the biggest halls in Kintex.
First comments I read after the event and it resorts right to this again about the crowd. Shesh.
Have you been at both events? Its just not compareable.
On June 15 2013 20:28 Letmelose wrote: Good luck with your post-match analysis writers of Team Liquid. I really did not expect these kind of games in the slightest, and will need to re-evaluate a lot of things in my head.
Here's the quick abstract of the post-match analysis.
Impin ain't easy, Zed still broken in 3.7, win lane win game
My brain still cannot comprehend how utterly hopeless Ambition looked against Dade. The Khazix-Zed match-up is favoured towards Zed, but Ambition never got crushed this badly against someone's Zed before in my memory, and he faced a lot of good Zed players before.
I can even understand Homme looking better off than Flame. But a helpless Ambition is something I really need time and a hell of a lot of thinking to wrap my head around.
Barring game 3, where ambition was prolly already demoralized and depressed, he actually didn't play that poorly. The real problem was cpt jack/lustboy completely getting outclassed by imp/mata and flame playing very greedy in his style/champ picks that made him susceptible to ganks and getting shut down. Ambition himself was the only one who didn't get raped. It only seemed like he got raped because dade was able to make so many plays off the side lanes which lost incredibly hard to begin with (looking at you jack -_-). Obviously ambition didn't play at his best, but he was by no means "helpless". His team made him look that way.
On June 15 2013 20:28 Letmelose wrote: Good luck with your post-match analysis writers of Team Liquid. I really did not expect these kind of games in the slightest, and will need to re-evaluate a lot of things in my head.
Here's the quick abstract of the post-match analysis.
Impin ain't easy, Zed still broken in 3.7, win lane win game
My brain still cannot comprehend how utterly hopeless Ambition looked against Dade. The Khazix-Zed match-up is favoured towards Zed, but Ambition never got crushed this badly against someone's Zed before in my memory, and he faced a lot of good Zed players before.
I can even understand Homme looking better off than Flame. But a helpless Ambition is something I really need time and a hell of a lot of thinking to wrap my head around.
Barring game 3, where ambition was prolly already demoralized and depressed, he actually didn't play that poorly. The real problem was cpt jack/lustboy completely getting outclassed by imp/mata and flame playing very greedy in his style/champ picks that made him susceptible to ganks and getting shut down. Ambition himself was the only one who didn't get raped. It only seemed like he got raped because dade was able to make so many plays off the side lanes which lost incredibly hard to begin with (looking at you jack -_-). Obviously ambition didn't play at his best, but he was by no means "helpless". His team made him look that way.
But game two he started Flask + pots vs Zed's red pot.... and well...
On June 15 2013 20:28 Letmelose wrote: Good luck with your post-match analysis writers of Team Liquid. I really did not expect these kind of games in the slightest, and will need to re-evaluate a lot of things in my head.
Here's the quick abstract of the post-match analysis.
Impin ain't easy, Zed still broken in 3.7, win lane win game
My brain still cannot comprehend how utterly hopeless Ambition looked against Dade. The Khazix-Zed match-up is favoured towards Zed, but Ambition never got crushed this badly against someone's Zed before in my memory, and he faced a lot of good Zed players before.
I can even understand Homme looking better off than Flame. But a helpless Ambition is something I really need time and a hell of a lot of thinking to wrap my head around.
Barring game 3, where ambition was prolly already demoralized and depressed, he actually didn't play that poorly. The real problem was cpt jack/lustboy completely getting outclassed by imp/mata and flame playing very greedy in his style/champ picks that made him susceptible to ganks and getting shut down. Ambition himself was the only one who didn't get raped. It only seemed like he got raped because dade was able to make so many plays off the side lanes which lost incredibly hard to begin with (looking at you jack -_-). Obviously ambition didn't play at his best, but he was by no means "helpless". His team made him look that way.
But game two he started Flask + pots vs Zed's red pot.... and well...
i'm pretty sure ambition always starts flask pots blindly. What do you think he should have started?
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