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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 17 2013 03:28 GMT
#781
On March 17 2013 12:26 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
is the coach for KT the ex coach for SKT bw?


I thought that was henry coach of kt

edit:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209714


ah thanks
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 17 2013 03:29 GMT
#782
On March 17 2013 12:24 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I think this confirms what I was thinking. Though both volibear and hec are both very similar, their main difference is how the knock back works. Voli's is a flip, hecs is a knock forward, it's easy to juke hecs with a flash, but voli you need ranged slows. KT knew this, none of the other teams did apparently. I think KT is going to roll benq if straight knowledge of the game and counter picks.


This is true but I'm sure Gambit knows this as well, after all Koreans copy Gambit
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9202 Posts
March 17 2013 03:29 GMT
#783
These questions.. just let Chobra interview him alone.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
March 17 2013 03:30 GMT
#784
koreans really good at deflecting questions lol
OMG you nasty gurl
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 17 2013 03:30 GMT
#785
Insec so modest in the interview haha
Jaedong :3
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 17 2013 03:33 GMT
#786
On March 17 2013 12:29 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:24 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I think this confirms what I was thinking. Though both volibear and hec are both very similar, their main difference is how the knock back works. Voli's is a flip, hecs is a knock forward, it's easy to juke hecs with a flash, but voli you need ranged slows. KT knew this, none of the other teams did apparently. I think KT is going to roll benq if straight knowledge of the game and counter picks.


This is true but I'm sure Gambit knows this as well, after all Koreans copy Gambit


mabye Diamond started the Volibear FotM only to counter it with his real champion, Nasus

MIND = BLOWN
Carrilord has arrived.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 17 2013 03:39 GMT
#787
On March 17 2013 12:20 Chicane wrote:
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On March 17 2013 12:19 GettingIt wrote:
RIP NA scene. I don't think they'll ever be able to compete with the rest of the world. The top 2 NA teams in LCS got stomped 2-0..


I don't think two series are indicative... That being said, yeah I don't think NA will be on the same level as EU or KR. Only time will tell though.


hasnt this been this situation for ages
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 17 2013 03:44 GMT
#788
On March 17 2013 12:39 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:20 Chicane wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:19 GettingIt wrote:
RIP NA scene. I don't think they'll ever be able to compete with the rest of the world. The top 2 NA teams in LCS got stomped 2-0..


I don't think two series are indicative... That being said, yeah I don't think NA will be on the same level as EU or KR. Only time will tell though.


hasnt this been this situation for ages

Since Kiev. I'd be interested in watching a LCS.NA vs LCS.EU tournament sans Gambit and see how it works out.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 17 2013 03:46 GMT
#789
On March 17 2013 12:39 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:20 Chicane wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:19 GettingIt wrote:
RIP NA scene. I don't think they'll ever be able to compete with the rest of the world. The top 2 NA teams in LCS got stomped 2-0..


I don't think two series are indicative... That being said, yeah I don't think NA will be on the same level as EU or KR. Only time will tell though.


hasnt this been this situation for ages


I just thought that NA scene would have some hope because LoL is a lot easier than SC2 mechanically.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 17 2013 04:01 GMT
#790
Well after downing a few drinks and thinking on this, all I have to say is..Curse I still believe!

I'd like to think this will only further put the fire under Curse's rear to keep trying and working harder then ever ><!
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9202 Posts
March 17 2013 04:02 GMT
#791
Feels like isolating the regions is only making the gaps bigger.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 17 2013 04:06 GMT
#792
I'm pretty sure everyone saw that coming.
Carrilord has arrived.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 17 2013 04:18 GMT
#793
On March 17 2013 13:02 Dan HH wrote:
Feels like isolating the regions is only making the gaps bigger.


In an ideal world we'd be able to get all the regions fighting each other and hopefully they'd all shine and play on a super high level but that's unlikely to happen due to well all number of things. It's something every fan of the pro scene I am sure would love to see.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
March 17 2013 05:07 GMT
#794
On March 17 2013 13:02 Dan HH wrote:
Feels like isolating the regions is only making the gaps bigger.

It's better for developing the US market and scene. For example, MLS would just die if Manchester United and Barcelona started competing in it.

On March 17 2013 12:44 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:39 Goshawk. wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:20 Chicane wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:19 GettingIt wrote:
RIP NA scene. I don't think they'll ever be able to compete with the rest of the world. The top 2 NA teams in LCS got stomped 2-0..


I don't think two series are indicative... That being said, yeah I don't think NA will be on the same level as EU or KR. Only time will tell though.


hasnt this been this situation for ages

Since Kiev. I'd be interested in watching a LCS.NA vs LCS.EU tournament sans Gambit and see how it works out.

imo top NA teams = top EU teams. average NA < average EU
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
March 17 2013 05:12 GMT
#795
On March 17 2013 14:07 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 13:02 Dan HH wrote:
Feels like isolating the regions is only making the gaps bigger.

It's better for developing the US market and scene. For example, MLS would just die if Manchester United and Barcelona started competing in it.

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:44 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:39 Goshawk. wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:20 Chicane wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:19 GettingIt wrote:
RIP NA scene. I don't think they'll ever be able to compete with the rest of the world. The top 2 NA teams in LCS got stomped 2-0..


I don't think two series are indicative... That being said, yeah I don't think NA will be on the same level as EU or KR. Only time will tell though.


hasnt this been this situation for ages

Since Kiev. I'd be interested in watching a LCS.NA vs LCS.EU tournament sans Gambit and see how it works out.

imo top NA teams = top EU teams. average NA < average EU


Their is a very clear gap between top eu teams and top na teams, top eu teams are actually competitive with the koreans.
OMG you nasty gurl
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 17 2013 05:23 GMT
#796
I think the NA scenes problems is their picks. They keep picking champions with large power points too late in the game. Either because of levels or items. The game isn't being played over 40-50 minutes anymore. How players are still dying to 3-4 minute tower dives is beyond me. I think this is why EG has been getting dunked lately also.

You can't build your team around the 30+ minute team fight anymore, you need a strong early game, with a non-retarded lategame comp.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 17 2013 05:26 GMT
#797
Soooo are the Curse v KT B matches worth watching? Was watching UFC and don't wanna scroll through for spoilers, nothing in op...
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 05:39:38
March 17 2013 05:39 GMT
#798
On March 17 2013 14:12 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:07 caelym wrote:
On March 17 2013 13:02 Dan HH wrote:
Feels like isolating the regions is only making the gaps bigger.

It's better for developing the US market and scene. For example, MLS would just die if Manchester United and Barcelona started competing in it.

On March 17 2013 12:44 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:39 Goshawk. wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:20 Chicane wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:19 GettingIt wrote:
RIP NA scene. I don't think they'll ever be able to compete with the rest of the world. The top 2 NA teams in LCS got stomped 2-0..


I don't think two series are indicative... That being said, yeah I don't think NA will be on the same level as EU or KR. Only time will tell though.


hasnt this been this situation for ages

Since Kiev. I'd be interested in watching a LCS.NA vs LCS.EU tournament sans Gambit and see how it works out.

imo top NA teams = top EU teams. average NA < average EU


Their is a very clear gap between top eu teams and top na teams, top eu teams are actually competitive with the koreans.

Outside of Gambit, I'm not too sure. EG hasn't been impressive lately and had to completely change how they play. I still don't trust Fnatic, and am skeptic of SK.

On March 17 2013 14:26 Mondeezy wrote:
Soooo are the Curse v KT B matches worth watching? Was watching UFC and don't wanna scroll through for spoilers, nothing in op...


If you want to watch KTB, sure.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
March 17 2013 05:53 GMT
#799
Isn't it kinda unfair to really judge these games when the NA teams have actual LCS matches that they care about earlier in the day? Gambit and KT get free scouting and don't have to worry about shit.
Never Knows Best.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 17 2013 05:56 GMT
#800
not unfair at all, NA lost because they got outclassed, has nothing to do with specific scouting
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