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On March 01 2013 10:21 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:17 overt wrote:On March 01 2013 10:16 Chrispy wrote:
Curse looked lost. Yeah I don't think even they know why they picked AP Trynd that game. Pretty sure Trynd tried his best to split push. He was in fact beating on bot base Tower quite well. Also pretty sure that Nocturne was supposed to work with AP Trynd's split push. If voyboy was able to push properly, they could use noc ult to catch quite whoever CLG sent to defend off guard into a 1v2 situation. It just didn't happen because Curse was losing everything else too badly. There's only so much split push you can do solo.
The rest of the picks didn't make much sense though. If they're going to use Trynd to split they need some way to stall pushes. Noc doesn't really do that, all he can do is split push more but then if he splits more his team has to 3v5 or 3v4 defend. Kayle can't stall pushes because her wave clear is pretty average. MF can only stop pushes every two minutes or so when she has ult. And Alistar can counter-initiate okay but someone like Sona could probably do it more reliably/better.
I don't think they really thought their team comp through that game.
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Eh, Curse. You earned it by trying to abuse AP Trynd.
A bit late, my bad:
Poll: Watch CLG vs Curse?Yes (15) 68% No (4) 18% If you have time (3) 14% 22 total votes Your vote: Watch CLG vs Curse? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Would really love to see aphrolift lane vs qtpatoy with vayne vs draven.In my opinion you can just go behind creeps from level 1 as draven and zone hilariously easily and liftlift seems to think you can't.Would be really interesting to watch that  .
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Srsly Alaric, I'm pissed about it. I feel like they heard he was OP then didn't learn any real comps designed for him =(
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On March 01 2013 10:22 RagequitBM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:18 Sermokala wrote:
that was a very fun match. cho was a great counter to trynd and the rest of clg was just on the ball the whole game.
I feel so happy that my Idea for omen adc worked out so well on the highest na stage. He built omen because he would be getting doven (diven, dived?) by Nocturne. Who would get slowed by it. Frozen Mallet is probably better against an AP diver like Akali, and such.
Dove.
Not the bird or the soap either.
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On March 01 2013 10:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Srsly Alaric, I'm pissed about it. I feel like they heard he was OP then didn't learn any real comps designed for him =(
I'd get pissed at Dignitas if they did something like that too (doesn't matter if they win or lose, though I'd understand it professionally speaking as I said). TSM does it on a regular basis anyway so... 
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On March 01 2013 10:26 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:22 RagequitBM wrote:On March 01 2013 10:18 Sermokala wrote:
that was a very fun match. cho was a great counter to trynd and the rest of clg was just on the ball the whole game.
I feel so happy that my Idea for omen adc worked out so well on the highest na stage. He built omen because he would be getting doven (diven, dived?) by Nocturne. Who would get slowed by it. Frozen Mallet is probably better against an AP diver like Akali, and such. he built it beacuse he was getting dove by noct and trynd and its a fantastic kiteing item. When your getting zerged by dive budies you don't want to have to auto attack each of them just wait for both of them to attack you once pop the active on it and suddenly you have a ton of space out for you. Not to mention omen is a TON better for duleing anyone outside of those ap divers you mentioned. I'd still use my omen against almost any team.
Yeah, Randuins is an amazing item for dueling. However, in team fights, most teams will have their AP dive on you immediately. If their top is AD then I agree that Omen is much better, since their mid most likely won't dive you. But Frozen Mallet is amazing for kiting APs that dive you, as well as picking up the pieces after a fight.
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I really didn't like Curse's teamcomp there. If you're gonna do AP Tryndamere, why are you letting the enemy team have Lux while you pick Kayle? What's Kayle going to ult? Tryndamere? + Show Spoiler +Oh wait, Nyjacky actually did that once. -_-
CLG put so much towerdive/towerkill threat down mid lane that Voyboy had to show up to teamfights. AP Trynd does not like being forced to show up to teamfights, unless it's as a janitor.
Why didnt Curse pick the Lux and use her power to hold back the tide while Tryndamere could force the splitpush? Why did they pick a teamcomp that could not put much threat onto Doublelift without hard engaging? They don't WANT to hard engage, they're running friggin AP TRYNDAMERE.
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On March 01 2013 10:40 RagequitBM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:26 Sermokala wrote:On March 01 2013 10:22 RagequitBM wrote:On March 01 2013 10:18 Sermokala wrote:
that was a very fun match. cho was a great counter to trynd and the rest of clg was just on the ball the whole game.
I feel so happy that my Idea for omen adc worked out so well on the highest na stage. He built omen because he would be getting doven (diven, dived?) by Nocturne. Who would get slowed by it. Frozen Mallet is probably better against an AP diver like Akali, and such. he built it beacuse he was getting dove by noct and trynd and its a fantastic kiteing item. When your getting zerged by dive budies you don't want to have to auto attack each of them just wait for both of them to attack you once pop the active on it and suddenly you have a ton of space out for you. Not to mention omen is a TON better for duleing anyone outside of those ap divers you mentioned. I'd still use my omen against almost any team. Yeah, Randuins is an amazing item for dueling. However, in team fights, most teams will have their AP dive on you immediately. If their top is AD then I agree that Omen is much better, since their mid most likely won't dive you. But Frozen Mallet is amazing for kiting APs that dive you, as well as picking up the pieces after a fight.
But when the AP is Kayle, Randuins does quite a good job of shutting that down too (Attack Speed reliant AP damage)
It literally affected ALL of the damage curse could put on him.
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On March 01 2013 10:40 sylverfyre wrote:I really didn't like Curse's teamcomp there. If you're gonna do AP Tryndamere, why are you letting the enemy team have Lux while you pick Kayle? What's Kayle going to ult? Tryndamere? + Show Spoiler +Oh wait, Nyjacky actually did that once. -_- CLG put so much towerdive/towerkill threat down mid lane that Voyboy had to show up to teamfights. AP Trynd does not like being forced to show up to teamfights, unless it's as a janitor. Why didnt Curse pick the Lux and use her power to hold back the tide while Tryndamere could force the splitpush? Why did they pick a teamcomp that could not put much threat onto Doublelift without hard engaging? They don't WANT to hard engage, they're running friggin AP TRYNDAMERE.
But, but, he's OPPPPPPPPP..... it just works...
Voyboy way too passive on Trynd. He was backing in lane way to often when no one was around him.
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On March 01 2013 09:26 Louuster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:19 Aando wrote:On March 01 2013 09:16 JBright wrote:On March 01 2013 09:14 RagequitBM wrote:
What happened to the LCS?
First GGU looks like the strongest new team, and Marn looks terrible. Now all of a sudden, GGU is the worst, and Marn is god mode. GGU had potential but one of their starters has to wait for customs. But with how GGU's looked the past four weeks, not sure how much he could help. I might be naive but I thought the US and Canada pretty much had open borders? The border is pretty open but things get more complicated when money is involved, work visas are surely involved now that players actually receive a salary.
Is siphur Canadian? If he is, he probably doesn't need a work permit.
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On March 01 2013 11:38 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:26 Louuster wrote:On March 01 2013 09:19 Aando wrote:On March 01 2013 09:16 JBright wrote:On March 01 2013 09:14 RagequitBM wrote:
What happened to the LCS?
First GGU looks like the strongest new team, and Marn looks terrible. Now all of a sudden, GGU is the worst, and Marn is god mode. GGU had potential but one of their starters has to wait for customs. But with how GGU's looked the past four weeks, not sure how much he could help. I might be naive but I thought the US and Canada pretty much had open borders? The border is pretty open but things get more complicated when money is involved, work visas are surely involved now that players actually receive a salary. Is siphur Canadian? If he is, he probably doesn't need a work permit.
Well something is stopping him from playing and it's apparently not school.
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That TSM vs. Vul game..HOLYYYYY
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On March 01 2013 12:40 MooMooMugi wrote:
That TSM vs. Vul game..HOLYYYYY
Seriously. + Show Spoiler +I was like "aw fuck, not again...really guys? This is not how you make up ground on CRS.
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On March 01 2013 10:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Srsly Alaric, I'm pissed about it. I feel like they heard he was OP then didn't learn any real comps designed for him =(
When M5 picked AP Yi when they thought he was broken they didn't really build a comp around it. AP Trynd doesn't really need a comp around him per say, they just didn't do a good job of preventing CLG from getting the picks that deal well with him, like giving Lux. Execution needed work I suppose.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Wowwwww. So happy TSM won. Although it sounded sloppy, and VUL threw, glad to see TSM playing some different/comfortable champs (singed & mao) and coming back from behind!
And Curse finally showing some vulnerability. 3am vs TSM. I am DEF gettin' up for that.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On March 01 2013 10:26 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:26 onlywonderboy wrote:On March 01 2013 10:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:
WAI CURSE.
I'll never be able to talk to JonGalt again. At least it wasn't TSM... At least we didn't lost to MRN. yet
This. See you in 16 hours Asmo.
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On March 01 2013 14:26 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Srsly Alaric, I'm pissed about it. I feel like they heard he was OP then didn't learn any real comps designed for him =( When M5 picked AP Yi when they thought he was broken they didn't really build a comp around it. AP Trynd doesn't really need a comp around him per say, they just didn't do a good job of preventing CLG from getting the picks that deal well with him, like giving Lux. Execution needed work I suppose.
I disagree. With AP trynd you need a splitpush comp. It's not some "special AP tryndamere comp" - it's the same kind of comp you'd pick with a Splitpush Nidalee or any other super hard splitpusher with mediocre-poor teamfight presence. You need a comp where your 4 can put a hard-stop to 5v4 tower dives and make it extremely unsafe for their ADC to even TOUCH your towers. This means you need long range, and you need "catching" CC. Lux/Xerath/Gragas or something who can bring ranged catching power mid, Jarvan/Vi/someone who can blow up a caught ADC in jungle. Even Khazix would have performed a lot better than Kayle there.
Also annoyed me greatly that Cop didn't use MF ulti EVER to force CLG off of their tower. Especially when they were taking mid outer turret, I was thinking to myself "and this is where Cop MF ultis you to keep you from touching the tower." And then it never happened.
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On March 01 2013 17:37 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:26 nojitosunrise wrote:On March 01 2013 10:26 onlywonderboy wrote:On March 01 2013 10:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:
WAI CURSE.
I'll never be able to talk to JonGalt again. At least it wasn't TSM... At least we didn't lost to MRN. yet This. See you in 16 hours Asmo.
GGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's too late for me but i will stay for tsm vs crs.
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