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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2012 03:56 GMT
#7821
On December 03 2012 12:51 Sermokala wrote:
CLG.na most improved team from the last event ! (gotta have them win something)

They would have won if scumbag IPL didn't invite all these foreign teams huehuehue.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 03 2012 03:58 GMT
#7822
I wouldn't say CLG improved. Hotshot, bigfat, doublelift, and chauster are all the same skill as previously. They straight upgraded their jungle, which was much more important then the change top.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14048 Posts
December 03 2012 03:59 GMT
#7823
On December 03 2012 12:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:51 Sermokala wrote:
CLG.na most improved team from the last event ! (gotta have them win something)

They would have won if scumbag IPL didn't invite all these Socialist teams huehuehue.


Fixed that for you. Der took mer jearbs.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 03 2012 04:01 GMT
#7824
On December 03 2012 12:58 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I wouldn't say CLG improved. Hotshot, bigfat, doublelift, and chauster are all the same skill as previously. They straight upgraded their jungle, which was much more important then the change top.


I dunno, I think that Doublelift improved. Bot lane is worse with loco than it was with Chauster imo and Doublelift played out of his mind this tournament.

Chauster and Doublelift still the best two people on that team, yeah. But Chauster improved too, his jungling looked stronger at this event than it did at MLG. Yeah, hotshot and jiji probably didn't improve that much.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 03 2012 04:10 GMT
#7825
Doublelift use to be carried by Chauster, now he has to carry Locodoco, thus forcing him to to have to try harder, inadvertently making him a better ADC, but the botlane is still weaker than old botlane combo (chau + DL), even though DL is bettter.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 03 2012 04:15 GMT
#7826
So I guess IPL 6 is happening in about four months Proof Quick turn around, but as long as the caliber of teams are the same or better I'll be pretty happy.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 03 2012 04:41 GMT
#7827
On December 03 2012 13:01 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:58 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I wouldn't say CLG improved. Hotshot, bigfat, doublelift, and chauster are all the same skill as previously. They straight upgraded their jungle, which was much more important then the change top.


I dunno, I think that Doublelift improved. Bot lane is worse with loco than it was with Chauster imo and Doublelift played out of his mind this tournament.

Chauster and Doublelift still the best two people on that team, yeah. But Chauster improved too, his jungling looked stronger at this event than it did at MLG. Yeah, hotshot and jiji probably didn't improve that much.


I don't think Chauster is as good as he says he is lol. Back in the days of NA/EU only tournaments, Chauster+doublelift would get either have someone get killed in a 2v2, or get double killed from a gank, but then Doublelift was straight up better at farming so eventually they would just win the lane. At best Chauster was as good as the other top NA supports, which we've found out all suck in comparison to Asian ones.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 03 2012 04:54 GMT
#7828
On December 03 2012 13:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I guess IPL 6 is happening in about four months Proof Quick turn around, but as long as the caliber of teams are the same or better I'll be pretty happy.

It happens in almost exactly 4 months. If that's a recurring pattern then we'll have 4 each year. And right around the time of final exams.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 05:04:41
December 03 2012 05:03 GMT
#7829
On December 03 2012 12:43 Bladeorade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:33 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:27 MooMooMugi wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:12 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:08 MooMooMugi wrote:
Now theres 2 European powerhouses that can take down the best Chinese/Korean teams, Fnatic & M5!

No credit to CLG.eu for their deep run in OGN LoL? Game 2 v WE was close too, and series v TPA was 2-1.

My bad, 3 EU teams now :> and hopefully more to come

It really depends on whether Fnatic can keep Rekkles for their AD carry in Season 3 and whether sOAZ's play gets more refined imo.

CLG.na can get on their level occasionally if they had a half-decent support player.

wat



I think Loco has brought a lot to CLG.NA in general knowledge, but I don't think he's great (in a relative sense) as a support player. I think Loco definitely can improve as a support though. Most of what I think he brings to CLG he would've brought in another role or as a coach.
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Eladir
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece467 Posts
December 03 2012 05:04 GMT
#7830
What an awesome event IPL5 was. Almost everything about it was perfect.

I expected IPL to continue their events, IPL6 though will be after the official season 3 has started and we have no clue what will happen with that. I hope we get to see this kind of international events more and more and not only once a year.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance. -Socrates
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 05:17:43
December 03 2012 05:14 GMT
#7831
On December 03 2012 14:03 JALbert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:43 Bladeorade wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:33 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:27 MooMooMugi wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:12 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:08 MooMooMugi wrote:
Now theres 2 European powerhouses that can take down the best Chinese/Korean teams, Fnatic & M5!

No credit to CLG.eu for their deep run in OGN LoL? Game 2 v WE was close too, and series v TPA was 2-1.

My bad, 3 EU teams now :> and hopefully more to come

It really depends on whether Fnatic can keep Rekkles for their AD carry in Season 3 and whether sOAZ's play gets more refined imo.

CLG.na can get on their level occasionally if they had a half-decent support player.

wat



I think Loco has brought a lot to CLG.NA in general knowledge, but I don't think he's great (in a relative sense) as a support player. I think Loco definitely can improve as a support though. Most of what I think he brings to CLG he would've brought in another role or as a coach.

Nah, I think he means CLG.na is not a strong team. I think they still have it, but their current performance is wrecked by having Locodoco in the team and their current potential is affected by having HotshotGG entrenched in the team. Still, they've shown that they can perform well in LANs and Chauster is currently carrying jiji's laning from the jungle so that they can all set up Doublelift for multi kills in the lategame.

Edit: I hope IPL6 will have a bigger prizepool for LoL. It doesn't make sense that they continue to have a lesser prizepool than SC2 when the interest in LoL is clearly higher.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2012 05:14 GMT
#7832
Riot should be taking notes on how to run an event from IPL.

My only major quips for the event are:
- Bo1 groupstage. Bo2 round robin groups are more fair because at this point both draft and map advantage are significant enough to be worth evening out.
- No non-English coverage. Both the Garena Taiwan and MarsTV restreams got ~20,000 viewers apiece when I checked, and I'd expect similar numbers from a Korean restream. Official Chinese or Korean coverage definitely would have been worthwhile.
- Award ceremony. Can't really blame IPL for this one, seeing as they're just awkward in general at a lot of tournaments.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 03 2012 05:21 GMT
#7833
Fucking award ceremonies. Like, could they seriously make it any more awkward?
It's not fucking hard.

Announcer 1: Give a huge round of applause for our 3rd place winners, TAIPEI ASSASSINS! In the role of AD Carry, BEBE! The play caller of TPA, and support player, MISTAKE! The dominating AP mid; TOYZ! The jungler with the massive misnomer; LILBALLZ!, and rounding out the team with his amazing performance on top; STANLEY!

TPA, walks out one by one, as the name is announced.

Have a small interview, asking about thoughts on tournament placement, and any sponsor shoutouts.

Rinse and repeat for 2nd place team.

Then announcing winning team, longer interview. Then bring back up 2nd and 3rd place team, for huge photoshoot.

announcer: We'd like to give a big thanks to fans, and viewers at home for making this event a success/ Then sponsor shoutout, and release some small info on ipl6.

EL FIN.

Not hard.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2012 05:43 GMT
#7834
The flaw in your plan is the part where you pretend IPL had any Chinese translation crew on deck devoted to LoL.

Can't interview TPA/WE if you don't have anyone to translate.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 03 2012 05:53 GMT
#7835
On December 03 2012 14:14 TheYango wrote:
Riot should be taking notes on how to run an event from IPL.

My only major quips for the event are:
- Bo1 groupstage. Bo2 round robin groups are more fair because at this point both draft and map advantage are significant enough to be worth evening out.
- No non-English coverage. Both the Garena Taiwan and MarsTV restreams got ~20,000 viewers apiece when I checked, and I'd expect similar numbers from a Korean restream. Official Chinese or Korean coverage definitely would have been worthwhile.
- Award ceremony. Can't really blame IPL for this one, seeing as they're just awkward in general at a lot of tournaments.

I imagine the BO2 group states aren't feasible simply due to time restraints. They would have had to either start each day ridiciuosly early in the day or started on Wednesday.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 03 2012 05:58 GMT
#7836
On December 03 2012 14:43 TheYango wrote:
The flaw in your plan is the part where you pretend IPL had any Chinese translation crew on deck devoted to LoL.

Can't interview TPA/WE if you don't have anyone to translate.

Nyjacky could have done it >.>
liftlift > tsm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 03 2012 05:59 GMT
#7837
On December 03 2012 14:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:14 TheYango wrote:
Riot should be taking notes on how to run an event from IPL.

My only major quips for the event are:
- Bo1 groupstage. Bo2 round robin groups are more fair because at this point both draft and map advantage are significant enough to be worth evening out.
- No non-English coverage. Both the Garena Taiwan and MarsTV restreams got ~20,000 viewers apiece when I checked, and I'd expect similar numbers from a Korean restream. Official Chinese or Korean coverage definitely would have been worthwhile.
- Award ceremony. Can't really blame IPL for this one, seeing as they're just awkward in general at a lot of tournaments.

I imagine the BO2 group states aren't feasible simply due to time restraints. They would have had to either start each day ridiciuosly early in the day or started on Wednesday.

Could see them being feasible if the bottom two of each group straight up dropped out instead of went to loser's bracket (in general, you can fit a lot more if it's single elim instead of double. Whether that makes for a better tournament is up for debate.)

I really liked that ALL the games were streamed, though. That's my favorite part, even though I didn't watch every one, now I can toss on a game on my second screen at work during the times that I'm just pounding code away.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 06:17:15
December 03 2012 06:16 GMT
#7838
I would've liked to see TPA vs WE. Though TPA looked a bit off but on form TPA from the World Championships vs WE would've been a sight! Their laning is so strong @_@. But great job WE!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 03 2012 06:57 GMT
#7839
On December 03 2012 14:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:43 TheYango wrote:
The flaw in your plan is the part where you pretend IPL had any Chinese translation crew on deck devoted to LoL.

Can't interview TPA/WE if you don't have anyone to translate.

Nyjacky could have done it >.>

Idk if you heard Nyjacky's English but its not that great l0l He does interviews in Chinese sometimes because hes not very comfortable with his English
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 07:02:30
December 03 2012 07:01 GMT
#7840
On December 03 2012 15:57 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:43 TheYango wrote:
The flaw in your plan is the part where you pretend IPL had any Chinese translation crew on deck devoted to LoL.

Can't interview TPA/WE if you don't have anyone to translate.

Nyjacky could have done it >.>

Idk if you heard Nyjacky's English but its not that great l0l He does interviews in Chinese sometimes because hes not very comfortable with his English

His english just has an accent, but it would way more passable than no interview at all. He did decent translation for the Pluto interviews w/ the Chinese players back in WCS, so I don't see the issue.


example. nyjacky's translation was purty good.

Also, doesn't TPA's manager also speak English?
liftlift > tsm
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