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On December 02 2012 09:21 EquilasH wrote: Wasn't M5 vs Blaze supposed to start around now? All I see on the stream is Scarra.
Sweet, thanks for telling me! I'd assume it'll start right after this.
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On December 02 2012 09:21 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 09:17 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On December 02 2012 09:13 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 02 2012 09:12 Sufficiency wrote:On December 02 2012 09:09 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 02 2012 09:08 Sufficiency wrote:On December 02 2012 08:55 nafta wrote: Don't get this ap zyra stuff.If he built wota/zeke/shurelya their teamfights would've been so much stronger. I totally agree. Because CLG did not have Shurelya, they weren't able to engage a lot of the fights in mid game. The Zhonya build for Krepo was really questionable, too. I think Shurelias would've been helpful, but Zhonyas was a great pickup. WE lost many engagements since they blew so much stuff on Krepo only to have Krepo dodge a ton of their damage with Zhonyas. No. If CLG had two Shurelya that game, they would have won all of their 5v4s. The problem was that CLG's team had basically no gap closers and they couldn't force fights with WE while Caomei splitpushes. I do agree that Shurelyas would've been good. I think Krepo should've taken Shurelya's instead of Abyssal, especially considering how abyssal aura doesnt' stack iirc and Snoopeh already had one. I'm just saying that the Zhonyas wasn't a bad item pickup. Rather, Krepo should've gone Zhonyas/Dcap+Shurelyas instead of Abyssal. I can see the merit in Zhonyas. One problem however was that with Rumble as the top laner, it places the responsibility of getting Shurelya/Zeke/etc. onto Amumu who did not get them afaik. Why do you have more posts than me noob Your posts are confusing.
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On December 02 2012 09:21 EquilasH wrote: Wasn't M5 vs Blaze supposed to start around now? All I see on the stream is Scarra. I think that might be main stage game so they need to set everything up.
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While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood.
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On December 02 2012 09:21 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 09:17 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On December 02 2012 09:13 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 02 2012 09:12 Sufficiency wrote:On December 02 2012 09:09 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 02 2012 09:08 Sufficiency wrote:On December 02 2012 08:55 nafta wrote: Don't get this ap zyra stuff.If he built wota/zeke/shurelya their teamfights would've been so much stronger. I totally agree. Because CLG did not have Shurelya, they weren't able to engage a lot of the fights in mid game. The Zhonya build for Krepo was really questionable, too. I think Shurelias would've been helpful, but Zhonyas was a great pickup. WE lost many engagements since they blew so much stuff on Krepo only to have Krepo dodge a ton of their damage with Zhonyas. No. If CLG had two Shurelya that game, they would have won all of their 5v4s. The problem was that CLG's team had basically no gap closers and they couldn't force fights with WE while Caomei splitpushes. I do agree that Shurelyas would've been good. I think Krepo should've taken Shurelya's instead of Abyssal, especially considering how abyssal aura doesnt' stack iirc and Snoopeh already had one. I'm just saying that the Zhonyas wasn't a bad item pickup. Rather, Krepo should've gone Zhonyas/Dcap+Shurelyas instead of Abyssal. I can see the merit in Zhonyas. One problem however was that with Rumble as the top laner, it places the responsibility of getting Shurelya/Zeke/etc. onto Amumu who did not get them afaik. Why do you have more posts than me noob I wondered if your post count hadn't been overtaken by Chiharu's a bit earlier. Now I know.
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On December 02 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote: While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood. I am very impressed with how much IPL has consistently managed to keep making each tournament have a better production quality than the last.
Haha oh Bruno. What shall we say about the WE v CLG strat then? CLG.eu had more legs?
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On December 02 2012 09:17 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 09:13 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 02 2012 09:12 Sufficiency wrote:On December 02 2012 09:09 Ryuu314 wrote:On December 02 2012 09:08 Sufficiency wrote:On December 02 2012 08:55 nafta wrote: Don't get this ap zyra stuff.If he built wota/zeke/shurelya their teamfights would've been so much stronger. I totally agree. Because CLG did not have Shurelya, they weren't able to engage a lot of the fights in mid game. The Zhonya build for Krepo was really questionable, too. I think Shurelias would've been helpful, but Zhonyas was a great pickup. WE lost many engagements since they blew so much stuff on Krepo only to have Krepo dodge a ton of their damage with Zhonyas. No. If CLG had two Shurelya that game, they would have won all of their 5v4s. The problem was that CLG's team had basically no gap closers and they couldn't force fights with WE while Caomei splitpushes. I do agree that Shurelyas would've been good. I think Krepo should've taken Shurelya's instead of Abyssal, especially considering how abyssal aura doesnt' stack iirc and Snoopeh already had one. I'm just saying that the Zhonyas wasn't a bad item pickup. Rather, Krepo should've gone Zhonyas/Dcap+Shurelyas instead of Abyssal. I can see the merit in Zhonyas. One problem however was that with Rumble as the top laner, it places the responsibility of getting Shurelya/Zeke/etc. onto Amumu who did not get them afaik.
Some people don't seem to realise just how strong aura items are.If zyra had zeke/shurelya kog could've gone for 2-nd pd and just face tanked rengar without a care in the world and just killed WE afterwards.Ad carries do so much dmg it doesn't make sense to not build to make them stronger when you have rumble/mummy and kog w for magic dmg anyway(also dunno how snoopeh was so incredibly underfarmed the whole game-didn't watch it from the start).
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On December 02 2012 09:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 09:21 EquilasH wrote: Wasn't M5 vs Blaze supposed to start around now? All I see on the stream is Scarra. I think that might be main stage game so they need to set everything up.
Oh, I see. I'm sad no one got my subtle joke about Scarra though (or maybe you just ignored it for my sake)
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On December 02 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote: While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood. I saw people say the lack of analysis at the WC was disappointing compared to TI2, I agree it's pretty interested. I'm listening to that while watching the TPA/Curse game on mute.
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On December 02 2012 09:25 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 09:24 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On December 02 2012 09:21 EquilasH wrote: Wasn't M5 vs Blaze supposed to start around now? All I see on the stream is Scarra. I think that might be main stage game so they need to set everything up. Oh, I see. I'm sad no one got my subtle joke about Scarra though  (or maybe you just ignored it for my sake) Dem kind of jokes are mean though :<
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On December 02 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote: While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood. I was watching the post game discussino, then i saw your post and realized there was a game on, so i switched :D
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On December 02 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote: While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood.
Scarra is really good for this I feel. Wonder would it would be like without him/jatt.
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Yea, I'm sorry. I was trying to be clever
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On December 02 2012 09:26 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote: While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood. I saw people say the lack of analysis at the WC was disappointing compared to TI2, I agree it's pretty interested. I'm listening to that while watching the TPA/Curse game on mute. As LoL players continue to improve, there's a need for the analysis to improve as well. If you take personality out of it, enjoyment of games comes from understanding what is going on in a game and appreciating plays for their beauty. But if you don't understand LoL very well, then you miss out on a lot of details or subtle influences here and there. I think that is one of the greatest strengths Starcraft has had as eSport, thanks to TL.
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On December 02 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote: While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood.
Oh god, LoL equivalent of Bruno would be amazing.
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On December 02 2012 09:29 skykh wrote: Again no WE interview? I wonder if the translator for TPA was perhaps their new manager. That would explain a lot.
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On December 02 2012 09:27 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote: While most people don't watch and just switch to the other stream, I actually like the post-game round-table idea taken from TI2.
They just need someone like Bruno to lighten the mood. Scarra is really good for this I feel. Wonder would it would be like without him/jatt.
This honestly feels like Scarra's best role in tournaments. His after-game analysis is always very strong and well done, while his casting currently isn't top notch. I'm really enjoying it and hope to see more in the future.
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