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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 01:23:25
October 06 2012 01:21 GMT
#7001
Only NA plays Halo and TF2 though? Quake has rapha at least, what a beast that man is

On October 06 2012 10:21 ketchup wrote:
People saying DotA NA is any decent are seriously delusional. They are definitely the weakest region in DotA as well.


Umm NA scene did "better" than EU did at TI2 aside from Navi. They also have more upcoming teams, well did before TI2 now EU picking it up a bit with M5 and Empire. At the top I wouldn't say they weakest, lower down sure
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#7002
On October 06 2012 10:21 Numy wrote:
Only NA plays Halo and TF2 though? Quake has rapha at least, what a beast that man is

You guys still got MvC.
Glorious SEA doto
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
October 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#7003
On October 06 2012 10:19 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:17 overt wrote:
NA worst scene in esports. LoL no exception. Don't expect them to do any better in S3 to be honest.

Still jiji fanboy.

edit:
asian girls fucking hot


let's be honest, FPS games the only thing NA has ever been good at

if you talk about games like quake, painkiller, counter strike etc

they have been dominated by swedes mostly or scandinavia, sk, nip, fnatic. usa doesnt even have a good team anymore.
now its dominated by poland and ukrania.

holland dominated painkiller. etc etc etc. So no, NA havnt dominated fps
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
October 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#7004
Lol what why is the 4th quarterfinal on Saturday. The winner of that has to play their semi final on the same day >_>
Paraiba
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil217 Posts
October 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#7005
On October 06 2012 10:20 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:17 cvt wrote:
Starcraft community knew that the Koreans would absolutely stomp TSM.

Weird... it's like Koreans are just better at video games..............................


superior mindset and approach


Korean practice.
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
October 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#7006
On October 06 2012 10:16 kaykaykay wrote:
DYRUS TROLL NO SHAKE HAND. :D


Only i noticed?
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#7007
considering how dumb AF's lvl1 was it's actually kinda silly they couldn't convert it into an advantage.
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
October 06 2012 01:23 GMT
#7008
On October 06 2012 10:21 ketchup wrote:
People saying DotA NA is any decent are seriously delusional. They are definitely the weakest region in DotA as well.


well it's closer there atleast, but now with the big patch and all the shifts after TI2, we'll see in a couple of months.
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
October 06 2012 01:23 GMT
#7009
On October 06 2012 10:22 kaykaykay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:16 kaykaykay wrote:
DYRUS TROLL NO SHAKE HAND. :D


Only i noticed?

I saw him shake hands, I dont' really get what you're talking about.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
October 06 2012 01:23 GMT
#7010
On October 06 2012 10:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:18 RealQ wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:14 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't really understand people. Did we watch the same game ? TSM showed good play, Azubu just had better strategy overall, the split push completly let TSM behind, they're too fast, can disengage whenever they want.


They got Outplayed in every sense of the word.

It wasnt even close. having a 3k lead at 7;40 and losing that game is just bad.

Whatever, the gold lead is not the beginning and the end of lol. They still won some team fight, made good calls, they showed they had some skill.



Nope. Azubu did everything better.

To me this was a huge stomp, that was easily to predict tho.

Be ready for the Korean/Asian domination in LOL.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 06 2012 01:24 GMT
#7011
On October 06 2012 10:20 scarper65 wrote:
It's fascinating just how bad American teams are in just about every esport.


I wouldn't go so far as to say this.

US teams lack infrastructure and just overall professionalization of their epsorts. Its almost like NA teams are amateurs competing against pros when you look at how the scenes are run. Even then NA has produced several stand out players/teams (and I don't really see how TSM 0-2 vs Frost shows OMG NA SUCKS as the games were NOT stomps). The one game type that was competitive that NA scene "liked" IE FPS they had great success actually.
Never Knows Best.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 06 2012 01:24 GMT
#7012
On October 06 2012 10:22 henrikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:19 Woony wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:17 overt wrote:
NA worst scene in esports. LoL no exception. Don't expect them to do any better in S3 to be honest.

Still jiji fanboy.

edit:
asian girls fucking hot


let's be honest, FPS games the only thing NA has ever been good at

if you talk about games like quake, painkiller, counter strike etc

they have been dominated by swedes mostly or scandinavia, sk, nip, fnatic. usa doesnt even have a good team anymore.
now its dominated by poland and ukrania.

holland dominated painkiller. etc etc etc. So no, NA havnt dominated fps


I didn't say that they dominated, just that they could compete at the top
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
October 06 2012 01:24 GMT
#7013
On October 06 2012 10:20 Ryler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:19 ArcticFox wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:19 Woony wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:17 overt wrote:
NA worst scene in esports. LoL no exception. Don't expect them to do any better in S3 to be honest.

Still jiji fanboy.

edit:
asian girls fucking hot


let's be honest, FPS games the only thing NA has ever been good at

If there's ever a Madden world championships, NA would own.


same as every other game that nobody else plays

Apparently Europeans think any game they don't play doesn't matter .

Not even talking about American football either.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
October 06 2012 01:24 GMT
#7014
On October 06 2012 10:21 Caphe wrote:
Waje up people that really think TSM got a chance in this tourney. Even after yesterday there are alot of people still put TSM in the top 3 teams lol.
TSM would have been eliminated in group if they were in there. Just look at how bad their top 2 opponents did in group play, you can evaluate TSM's real power from that.

NA is far behind the rest of the world, maybe ahead of South America? if there is any team there. They can't even compete with SEA teams(both SAJ and TPA are in the Garena Pro League, which is one of the few tournies that SEA has)

Are you serious ? They lost a bo3 against Azubu Frost, arguably the best lol team at the moment. You're saying TSM couldn't have beaten clg.na, dignitas, SK, WE, Saigon Jokers ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 06 2012 01:24 GMT
#7015
On October 06 2012 10:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:18 RealQ wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:14 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't really understand people. Did we watch the same game ? TSM showed good play, Azubu just had better strategy overall, the split push completly let TSM behind, they're too fast, can disengage whenever they want.


They got Outplayed in every sense of the word.

It wasnt even close. having a 3k lead at 7;40 and losing that game is just bad.

Whatever, the gold lead is not the beginning and the end of lol. They still won some team fight, made good calls, they showed they had some skill.


The very early game swings are A LOT more random than mid game. I won't say it was all luck, but TSMs early lead was at least in part due to out-guessing AF's jungle path.

Every time a Korean team or M5 has gotten a lead like that, they have squeezed the life out of the other team through the mid game. Instead TSM slowly but surely lost their lead. That to me displays the difference in skill between the teams even more so than a 20 minute roflstomp.

M5 the last non asian team hope. And they looked freaking awesome against IG.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#7016
On October 06 2012 10:21 ketchup wrote:
People saying DotA NA is any decent are seriously delusional. They are definitely the weakest region in DotA as well.

coL, EG and Quantic did decent at TI2.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#7017
I really want to see a TPA vs. Frost finals, not because of any ill will toward M5/CLG.EU/WE, but because Lilballz vs. CloudTemplar in the jungle would be absolutely mind-blowing.
Moderator
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#7018
On October 06 2012 10:23 RealQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:20 WhiteDog wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:18 RealQ wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:14 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't really understand people. Did we watch the same game ? TSM showed good play, Azubu just had better strategy overall, the split push completly let TSM behind, they're too fast, can disengage whenever they want.


They got Outplayed in every sense of the word.

It wasnt even close. having a 3k lead at 7;40 and losing that game is just bad.

Whatever, the gold lead is not the beginning and the end of lol. They still won some team fight, made good calls, they showed they had some skill.



Nope. Azubu did everything better.

To me this was a huge stomp, that was easily to predict tho.

Be ready for the Korean/Asian domination in LOL.

Did you miss the first game where TSM was down 10k and still pulling even in teamfights? Their decision making isn't the best when it comes to following up on an early lead, but to say Azubu did Everything better is a little much.
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
October 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#7019
Just realized that all the number 1 team in every regions won today except for the NA region.... Now i'm worried for CLG.eu
RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
October 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#7020
On October 06 2012 10:22 Paraiba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:20 udgnim wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:17 cvt wrote:
Starcraft community knew that the Koreans would absolutely stomp TSM.

Weird... it's like Koreans are just better at video games..............................


superior mindset and approach


Korean practice.



US mindset when it comes to this is absolutely pathetic.

Also Dyrus is really bad now, he just doesnt enjoy the game anymore.
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