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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#361
CLG takes mid inhib after a great engage. 4 For 0, and now they Baron.

Froggen's area control is pretty damn impressive. Makes for great followups with their line-up, considering they have three tanky champions with stuns and gap closers. Meanwhile Yellowpete just shreds through their whole team.
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Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
June 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#362
The real terror is just letting CLG have both Kog and Anivia, M5 can't or won't seem to push even 5v4 on that first mid tower while YellowPete is farming bot lane. Seems more like they're giving up any chance at aggression at this stage when their comp falls off hard compared to CLG. Just seems really sad to me.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
June 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#363
At this point, it's pretty over. CLG's got a late-game comp and are up ~5k, a baron buff, and mid inhib vs. a mid-game comp from M5.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#364
I dont understand how ANY team especially M5 can still not ban anivia vs Froggen, especially after yesterday's game. Are they too cocky to admit that he IS the damn bird. Please dont argue with the He's gosu with any mid champ argument because clearly anivia in his hands is gamechanging :D
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
June 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#365
m5 don't know how to pick
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
June 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#366
That ice bird
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 15:11:02
June 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#367
On June 19 2012 00:07 Celestial wrote:
The real terror is just letting CLG have both Kog and Anivia, M5 can't or won't seem to push even 5v4 on that first mid tower while YellowPete is farming bot lane. Seems more like they're giving up any chance at aggression at this stage when their comp falls off hard compared to CLG. Just seems really sad to me.


Yeah, Kog is benefiting a lot from Anivia. Great synergy. Can't push vs late game Anivia or Kog.

And CLG pushes it through and takes the game! GG!

@Asnsensation:

I think they were planning to use the double global against the Kog+ Anivia. Anivia can't wall vs TF/Noc ult, and both Kog and Anivia don't have an escape on their own other than flash.

Of course, CLG were in the lead from the beginning due to Kog's lvl 1 FB.
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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
June 18 2012 15:10 GMT
#368
m5 need to stop running vlad top i think.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 18 2012 15:11 GMT
#369
CLG teamfights too stronk.
And yeah, Yellowpete, Wickd, Froggen, Snoopeh all got their most favorite champ.
Off-season = best season
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 18 2012 15:13 GMT
#370
M5 trying to take advantage of early game stronk champs; can't really blame them for picking that way. They're playing where their strengths are.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 18 2012 15:13 GMT
#371
I can't even get impressed by Froggen anymore. The more I see him play Anivia, the more I'm jaded. It became that predictable and repetitive.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
June 18 2012 15:16 GMT
#372
What can M5 do against CLG? It seems their nerves were even shakier in this game.
My modesty is awesome.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 15:19:37
June 18 2012 15:16 GMT
#373
On June 19 2012 00:13 jacosajh wrote:
M5 trying to take advantage of early game stronk champs; can't really blame them for picking that way. They're playing where their strengths are.


I'd argue that CLG's supporting heroes are far better early game. Maokai is a better early game ganker than Noc, and Ali is a better support early on. I'd even argue that Irelia is better early game than Vlad.

M5's lineup really looked focused on lvl 6 and higher (not late game though).

@Zenon: The lvl 1 kill contributed a lot, can't let a Kog get a lead in lane early on.

Other than that, their picks just didn't work out. CLG played protect the Kog perfectly, and M5 wasn't able to edge an advantage out in laning phase, where they should have the advantage with double (semi)global ultimate ganks.
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 18 2012 15:21 GMT
#374
Once vlad is lvl 9ish and gets hextech, he's a beast, and can push his lane to help Noc gank or counter jungle.

TF and Noc ult at lvl 6, that's pretty game breaker from 15-25 minutes. All of the games I've watched with M5, this is around the time when things really spiral out of control.

But yeah, in late game, TF and Noc ult are pretty much useless vs that CLG team comp.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
June 18 2012 15:25 GMT
#375
I've been wondering for quite some time, but isn't Gosupepper a bit mentally challenged?
He seems to be so stupid compared to any other support player.
"My spoon is too big."
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
June 18 2012 15:26 GMT
#376
So did clg win g1 yet?
KCCO!
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
June 18 2012 15:27 GMT
#377
While I'm a big fan of GoSu Pepper's Nunu, I don't think it combos with Corki well enough to keep running that particular bot lane :/
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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
June 18 2012 15:28 GMT
#378
Just for your information: finals are using another stream -> click me.
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
June 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#379
On June 19 2012 00:27 Haasts wrote:
While I'm a big fan of GoSu Pepper's Nunu, I don't think it combos with Corki well enough to keep running that particular bot lane :/

same nunu is worthless compared to ali who brings way more
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
June 18 2012 15:31 GMT
#380
On June 19 2012 00:16 Doctorbeat wrote:
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On June 19 2012 00:13 jacosajh wrote:
M5 trying to take advantage of early game stronk champs; can't really blame them for picking that way. They're playing where their strengths are.


I'd argue that CLG's supporting heroes are far better early game. Maokai is a better early game ganker than Noc, and Ali is a better support early on. I'd even argue that Irelia is better early game than Vlad.

M5's lineup really looked focused on lvl 6 and higher (not late game though).

@Zenon: The lvl 1 kill contributed a lot, can't let a Kog get a lead in lane early on.

Other than that, their picks just didn't work out. CLG played protect the Kog perfectly, and M5 wasn't able to edge an advantage out in laning phase, where they should have the advantage with double (semi)global ultimate ganks.

Yeah, M5 ran a mid-game comp, not an early game comp. But his point correct in its idea. They were hoping to get kills on Kog with double-ganks from Nocturn and TF globals. Unfortunately, TF was always pushed back by Anivia, and Nocturn was afraid of being counter-jungled by the roaming Irelia and a weirdly agressive Maokai. M5 won the mid-game, but they didn't win it by very much when they needed to absolutely crush it be able to compete with CLG's late game.
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